Making a better garden hose nozzle // Paul Brodie's Shop
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It’s funny that you done this. Years ago when I had unrestricted access to lathes and mills through work I often thought about making my own hose nozzle as the ones I bought at the shop I’d always find disappointing in their performance in some way. People used to laugh when I’d talk about it. Now I know I’m not so crazy… or just as crazy, either way I don’t mind.
Not crazy, but you do belong to a certain tribe of people whose brains don't like being idle, and will latch onto any interesting ideas and tumble them around until you either get bored with them, or find enough interest & improvement to catalyze taking action.
I say not crazy. The nozzles that they make today are junk. A plastic turret nozzle that is designed to catch a homeowner's eye seems to be the standard today. When I was a kid they used to make a simple two piece brass nozzle with one o - ring and the rubber washer where it screwed on to the hose. They were inexpensive worked great and lasted forever.
I think it's ok to be a little crazy, in the correct way.
@@andyZ3500s I know right. In the way of hose nozzles it feel like your shooting water out of a storm troopers helmet. I find it frustrating when you just want to go to the shop and buy a simple straightforward quality product where form follows function. More than happy to pay extra for something nice. It seems you can’t get things anymore where the items performance and build quality is put foremost to looks or cost of construction. I understand completely and very empathetically why Paul Would go to all this trouble.
@@paulbrodie Yes. You just have to channel it properly.
"That looks OK to me" looool
Words I've never heard out of any other machinists mouth.
A departure from the norm but no less interesting. You’ve missed two vital features I’ve found in each of my spray nozzles - 1. A random, lone wayward stream working independently to the rest of the flow (used to wet your own clothes) and 2. A persistent leak running back down the handle (subsequently wetting your hand and sleeve)
Trade secrets, I suppose.
@Alfred Wedmore good work. The beauty of these designs are such that you’ll be back to watering yourself in no time!
Thanks, great comments!
Right on!
I love the reaching over an operating lathe with long sleeves.
When making projects based off of designs that are majorly produced, like sprayers, checking the US patent office is a great place, as they will include lots of good information and show you what works and what has been tried. Great video!
But I thought you could find anything and everything by Googling.
Thanks for watching.
i'm not sure if this is the answer but this is what i found on google. "The standard thread used for garden hoses is commonly known as garden hose thread (GHT), but officially its title is NH ("National Hose") defined in ANSI B1.20.7. There are two designations. NHR is for thin-walled couplers on hoses formed from rolled, thin material and NH is for full-form threads cut into thicker material, typically used for bib cocks and female hose ends. Male threads for garden hoses are also abbreviated as MHT for "male hose thread" and female threads as FHT for "female hose thread".
Threads are non-tapered, i.e parallel. Unlike tapered threads which wedge together when tightened, parallel threads don't seal without PTFE tape so usually rubber washers or o-rings are used in fittings to stop them leaking.
Fittings have an external thread diameter of 1 1/16", with a thread pitch of 11.5 threads per inch (TPI). A 3/4 inch GHT fitting is suitable for hoses with an internal diameter of 1/2", 5/8" or 3/4".
GHT is not compatible with National Pipe Tapered (NPT) as used for plumbing fittings. NPT threads however are used on the section of a bibcock that connects to the plumbing that feeds it.
Some hoses may be fitted with an NPSH (National Pipe Straight Hose) female, parallel threaded connector for connecting to a tapered threaded fitting on a water supply pipe (i.e. not a spigot). The 3/4" connector has 14 threads per inch and is not compatible with spigots. An adapter however can be used."
Thanks for all that information! So I was right about 11.5 TPI, which my lathe cannot do. But 12 TPI seems to work just fine.
@Alfred Wedmore I have heard that that's why we're stuck with 120V. Requires more copper.
@@tinman5322 Actually, 12 TPI worked surprisingly well. Thanks for commenting 😉
I shouldn't have been surprised that I'm not the only person that can't find a reliable garden hose nozzle that I like. Thank you Paul. There is hope.
Thank you Gerry, and yes, there is Hope.
ahh the happy memories ! who`s nozzle can squirt highest challenge ,,
just keeps making me smile ... thanks guys
Thanks William. I would like to enter a contest like that!
An over the top video about using way too much tooling for an almost comical task?! Sign me up! - also this isn’t the first time I’ve spent more time than necessary improving garden hose parts, so nothing but love here. 👌👍🤙
I had fun making that nozzle. Yes it was over the top, but this is RUclips!!!
Thank you RUclips algorithm for bringing me here. I like it.
Ben, thanks for finding us 🙂
I dont usually watch hose videos. But when I do I watch a Brodie hose video 😎
Thanks Mikey!
Yes, nozzle know how was good. Thanks. Les in UK
Thanks Les!
ok i pause for a second, i am really excited to see. this content is my, its what i want to see
Hi Paul, Chris here from Uk. Wish you lived next door. I could learn so much and I would sweep floor and clean up and tidy tools
I love the sped up lathe video. It looks like it's running via CNC.
You are correct.
i enjoy watching you make anything
And I have fun figuring out how to approach each project!
It’s fun hearing the peacock in the background
Great great job to the Master fabricator Paul Brodie and the the cam Mitch....................
Thank thank you.
🤣 I swear you are losing it Paul and Mitch. Ha ha ha.
i love the classic brass spray nozzle. i have no idea who made it first, but its the basic design where you screw the nozzle in or out and the spray changes from a laminar umbrella to a turbulent jet. its perfect. it has one gasket that is extremely easy to replace, and one moving part (a threaded joint). its brass so it will last about 100 years. i literally found one buried in my grandpa's garden, and i cleaned it off with some wd-40 and it works perfectly. i have a bunch of different brass nozzles from different companies, and they are all basically the same and do any job i need a hose to do. they even get powerful enough to do some light cleaning. honestly, the gun style fancy pants spray nozzles with 5000 settings are hot trash compared to the basic brass nozzle.
Thanks for commenting.
Who hasn't wanted a better garden nozzle? Hopefully, this starts a new collection of must-watch videos.
Most nozzles are cheaply made, and work OK for a short time. That's all. Thanks for watching.
Don't be making any mousetraps. Unless you want a lot of people at your doorstep!
Brillant!
Rafael, thanks!
Brass and a Ball end mill … aah simple pleasure >>> Chef’s Kiss!
I like making things out of brass. Maybe we'll make a small cannon.
I clicked the like even before watching - hopeful that you r invention will change my universe forever!
Thanks John!
Always look forward to your videos.
Thank you George.
He will enjoy it each time it is used. That is reason enough to make it and we will learn something while watching him doe something we wish, or at least me, could make. I say bring on the projects.
Thanks Craig. It makes a change from working on motorcycle projects!
As a member of the turf industry, I await the release of the hydro dynamic Brodie nozzle onto the market with great expectation. However, I am concerned about associated costs to get them to Australia and can we negotiate an agents commission? Another fascinating example of Brodie brilliance. Ta.
David, thanks for watching and commenting. You are funny!
Sign me up for your 1st order. Cost isn't relevant
@@danielmoore2555 Sounds great. But then the videos wouldn't get made...
And we can't have that! Your videos are great!
@@danielmoore2555 Thank you Daniel.
This might be the video that motivates me to buy a lathe and mill and learn how to machine.
Sounds good to me!
2 min in...I'm loving this...PB...fustrated...and he going to machine his way out of it!
Totally off the wall!
Totally creative!
Totally has me on the edge of my toilet seat!
LETS GO!
What a fun diversion!
For us too!
Always great to watch when an engineer applies his knowledge to a product outside his comfort zone. Sometimes the solutions are quite amazing because there's nobody to say, "you can't do that ". But for me the big mystery has been answered.... it's a peacock providing the backing track to so many videos.
Yet after all that work, it doesn't work even half as good as a high quality brass store-bought one.
Yes, Peter the Peacock.
One of the 'Machinist's Bedside Reader's had plans for a super-duper nozzle.
I have both versions of the Bedside Reader. I will have to check, thanks.
FIRST CLASS quality....... that LASTS.....
And it looks beautiful 😍
Thank you James!
Paul, please roll up you sleeves when you file over the chuck. You may care about your project and your machine, but that machine cares not for you. Otherwise, wonderful craftsmanship as usual. Always love when y'all drop a new video. It truly makes my day.
Cheers, Neal.
Or, as I have previously requested, file left handed.
Those sleeves look to be really close fitting and the fact Paul still has both arms attached after years of lathe work tends to suggest he’s not taking risks.
@@seansawyers4753 I have a friend who spent over 40yrs accident free on a daily basis. On the eve of his retirement he took off a fingertip." caveat emptor" !
fully endorse this suggestion
Thanks Neal. I am safety conscious for sure.
When I grow up I want to be like Paul
Are you making the Assumption that I have grown up?
THIS IS NOW A HOME AND GARDEN CHANNEL.
Super awesome. !!!
I had the pleasure of working for a small air tool mfg. company out here in California. on weekends oh the mind did wander Being an avid Mt Biker with that penchant for shiny lightweight tidbits to attach to ones bike
I became known as the One Offster. at least the stuff that made it to the bike shop earned the title it was more like two or three offster. thanks Paul and Mitch. wow I miss my old American Comp LIte. Thanks Fred R.I.P
I like that name: the One Offster! Thanks for watching.
Delrin looks fun to machine. Huge depth of cut, harmless chips, cheap too.
Not completely harmless - get your fingers tangled in the swarf while the lathe is turning and you will regret it
@@paulg3336 fair point, I hadn't considered that aspect.
Very cool. Nice machining
Frank
Thanks, Frank 👍
You really gotta be passionate about hoses to go this far
Not necessarily. I wasn't happy with my nozzles, and I needed a good project.
Really enjoyable video. tks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Super interesting! The things have been driving me crazy forever, glad to see someone taking action. lol Never stop.
Thanks Tim.
@@paulbrodie Really gifted fabricator and a fine teacher, you are going places!
@@quirty864 Thanks Tim. It would be good to get out of my shop once in a while :)
@@paulbrodie Sorry, no, you have vids to make.
I love it! Improving regular household items is always quite satisfying.
Thank you Mark. I totally agree!
Your end result has that "eye catching appearance" that could sell millions. But as with any manufactured item, the cost would have to come down.
I have two ideas for improving two household items but can't tell anybody what they are. If I ever become motivated again, and make my two improved items, I'll post on my channel.
That was a fun change -- I think that deserves a T-Shirt design!
Hmmmm, thanks.
nice project Paul! as long as you're making things I'm happy lol
Thanks John. This project made a good change.
Lathes are fantastic, only got to play around with one as a school boy
Yes, they are. Thanks for watching.
Excellent video! I bought a metal lathe with the intent to make some of my own brass faucet hardware and have also found very little info on that (somewhat) related topic. Thanks for the enlightenment & entertainment!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thats a Winner!
Thanks Jarno!
Not sure how I ended up here? I stayed and thoroughly enjoyed! It must be my inclination to use sharpie and electric tape on all my tooling as reference that felt at home. I always try to cut away from the chuck, you're much more daring and skillful than I. Fantastic!
Either luck or fate. James, thanks for watching and commenting.
I've been thinking the same exact thing, you can't buy a good one anymore!
You are amazing! everything is possible make by your hands.
Thank you CK. Just remember, practice, practice, practice and never give up 😉
Pretty cool Paul!
Sure miss working in the machine shop. Can make just about anything with the proper tools. Or FIX anything. A good machinist is the mechanic's mechanic!
Ron, thanks for watching!
@@paulbrodie I really enjoy watching your work. You're quite an artist with what you do! Thanks for the vids!
Nice work, if your skills can be used to improve everyday life at home they are truly worthwhile skills! Another video that only Paul and Mitch could make interesting :)
Thanks Rick. I seem to be catching up on projects I have been thinking about for years.
Finally we get to see your peacocks!
I only have one... and he would really like a mate. A good Peahen is hard to find.
An engineering mind that's not blinkered to motorcycles nice job Paul!!
Thank you.
Well, first off that was some beautiful workmanship, that being said I don't think certain people are crazy but gifted in a way that curiosity drive them for excellence or to pursue and idea until the end justifies the means or get bored of it. As the saying goes "It's better to try and fail, then not try at all?" My hat is off to you sir.
Marty, thanks for watching and commenting :)
That looks like a "Dad with lathe" project. Really enjoyed it aswell
Except I have no kids. Thanks for watching!
I'm surprised there isn't any 3d printed files on something like that, pretty cool video. It's amazing how things don't work out on version 1 most times
@_____ hobbyist Community* there's lots of not stupid businesses uses and quit a large community that excludes hobby level designers
You'd have to go hot, with 110% or so flow rate and thick walls to make sure the layers don't fail when you suddenly shut the nozzle and water hammer the print
Works good looks good
thanks very much!
Another idea we’ve all had. I was so excited to see this title! Why are so many so poor from the factory? Making the perfect sprinkler is on my list as well. Thanks for the encouragement.
Yes, make the perfect sprinkler!
@@paulbrodie I should’ve waited to the end of the video for peacock footage. That will suffice. Thanks!
Bis zum Schluss wusste ich nicht, was Du mit "nozzle" gemeint hast😂😂😂😂😂...
Perfekt Work 💪👍 ...and greetings from Germany
Hello Germany! Thanks for watching :)
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Sam!
For a really efficient nozzle design, study Pelton Hydraulic Turbine nozzles. Turbine designers go to great length to design, and test, these to be as efficient as possible.
That 11 1/2 TPI is a royal pain; my lathe QCGB won't cut it, either. I've made a sloppy 12 TPI when forced to accommodate one.
The easiest solution is to cut the required thread off a discarded brass nozzle and solder it onto the new part.
I did think about cutting the 11.5 GHT thread off an old nozzle, but I wanted to make the whole thing. The 12 TPI actually worked quite well. I will check out the Pelton design, thank you.
Nice video, something mesmerizing about watching lathe work. Love your skills.
Thanks Joe.
I've been wanting to do this for so long! This will be my first project when i get a minilathe
Ran into the same thing a few years ago on a similar project. Picked up a "GHT Female to 3/4 in NPTF Male" adapter off Amazon and started my nozzle from there.
Right on!
This was great! Love the homecooked solution to a delightful issue. The filming in general was superb, but I would have appreciated more close in shots of how the disparate pieces came together. Wonderful to see it working well!
Thanks Andrew 😉
Hello Paul, as I would anticipate a very posh spray head, reminds me of many Italian designs, form plus function.
Great job! Thanks Kevin.
Thank you Kevin.
Garden Hose Thread is 1+1/16 x 11½ Straight Threads Per Inch. Fitting information for your next evening of Trivial Pursuit - Fix It edition.
"The US standard was defined by NFPA 1963, "Standard for Fire Hose Connections", then later by ANSI-ASME B1. 20.7, which specifies 1+1⁄16 inches (27 mm) diameter straight (non-tapered) thread with a pitch of 11.5 threads per inch (TPI)."
Yes, you seem to know what you are talking about. Thanks for commenting...
Very cool!!
A standard garden hose has two designations. For thins-walled couplers, NHR is cut into full-form threads. Male threads for your garden hoses (MHT) and female hose thread (FHT) are typically utilized in GHT. In the United States, the outer thread diameter is 1.0625-inch and the thread pitch is 11.5 TPI.Mar 23, 2022
Thanks. Yes, 11.5 TPI which I cannot do. Oh well, I made it work.
Could make the inner nozzle independent of the water passage and have it thread on for easier prototyping
Nice job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow amazing craftsmanship, seems like it would past more than a lifetime to me.
Thanks Jason.
Thank you Mitch and Paul. That was a gooder. When I was young we had a brass nozzle that worked perfectly. It went missing when Mom sold the house so I thought I would just go buy another. Ha! Wrongo. In 36 years I have not found another that worked as well. I can just imagine Paul and Silent Mitch hawking their miracle nozzle on late night TV. "Only three payments of $29.95, but wait there's more!"
Thanks Don. But I do not want to be in the nozzle business.
@@paulbrodie seems a shame. I hear there are literally hundreds of dollars to be made in the nozzle business. You could afford to buy a motorcycle that doesn't need so much work like a Honda for instance.
@@donhuebert9151 Don, I already own a Honda.
Interesting that you attacked the nozzle issue. I have griped about nozzles for years. Thank You
I have never been truly happy with any of my garden nozzles. Thanks for watching!
This is awesome
Thanks Larry.
I enjoyed this very much! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hello from British Columbia Canada
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Hello BC :)
A real master 💎
Thank you very much.
And for my own diversion... My parents live on the Central Coast of California near the former reaches of Hearst Ranch. And Hearst used to have flocks of peacocks. They're now pretty much native and you occasionally see one or two running with the flocks of wild turkeys.
Very nice. I like that area of California and have spent some time there.
This is the solution to a world wide problem. I nominate you for the Nobel Peace
Prize. 👍
Thanks. If only the world was that simple.
It could be that simple. Cheers.
I felt like I was watching myself...I am not alone. As you found, tighter tolerance gives a better spray but setting up laminar flow before exiting the nozzle will give the best distance. A longer straight zone at the tip before dropping into the bypass phase may help. A steeper pitch or double lead thread may help with transitioning
Roger, you are correct. We are not alone. My next modification to the nozzle will be to introduce a swirl into the "straight zone", as you put it. I think that might help a lot. Then, a patent!
All plumbing threads you will probably find are BSP standards. They're tapered threads so that when they're tightened down, the thread provides the seal itself, rather than a flat or conical face making the seal as would be necessary with a regular thread. These threads are really painful to cut, since the taper needs to start and end at the right point to have things fit properly. Plumbers have special dies for cutting them, where the only trick is that the die has to be completely bottomed out to complete the whole taper.
American hose thread and npt are threads used in a america here in Australia maun standard for hoses is bsp same as our pipes
I don't think this is a plumbing thread. It is a GHT- garden hose thread. Who knew?
I can only speak to Canadian Garden Hose Thread but it's 3/4" x 11.5 here
cool video/project
Cool little project with a very good version 2! FYI Outer thread diameter is 1.0625-inch and the thread pitch is 11.5 TPI
Yes, thanks Sean.
That's awesome
I want something that has a jet and a fan… you want a Jan. A Jan Brodie, not to be confused with a Jan Brady 🤣
Please do a run and post for sale. I’d place an order with you. Thanks. Fun to watch your process and workmanship.
Thanks for your support. RUclips is a full time job, so I do not have time to go into the Nozzle business, sorry.
Next week we make a motorcycle engine-powered lawnmower. 🤣
Great idea….Paul’s lawnmower might need an upgrade 🤔😏
@@mitchellnurseproductions Paul's lawnmower needs a roll bar in case he tips it over again.
As long as it's not a Harley V twin.
Nice job, and a unique tool build. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Thanks for sharing!
Great job Paul! I enjoyed your video.
Thank you Ed 😉
Another superb and entertaining episode , great work Paul 👍👌
Cheers Chris
Chris, you're so consistent... thanks for watching!
I must say the use of a cameraman makes the video even better. A lot of creators of this subject do not use a cameraman sadly.
Edit: Mistyped word
Yes, I am very happy to have Mitch as my Videographer. A fabricator filming themselves is never the same! Thanks for watching.
I have absolutely no interest in hose nozzles, however, this was awe inspiring and very entertaining. Thank you so much Paul. All of your videos get me through the week.
Thanks Trevor, but just about everyone has a hose nozzle.
@@paulbrodie true. Most of mine belong in the bin.
@@Minitrev998 I now have a Nozzle Bin.
you are the master!!
Thank you.
I thought it was funny that you pointed out your peacock today. I've been listening to it in your videos for many months.
That was Mitch's idea to give Peter some footage.
You should get a Gardena brand nozzle & make that out of brass & steel, the plastic item is great but doesn't stand up to wear and tear. We've sworn by it here in Australia, but the old plastic version can't last in the sun. Good work hope you're happy with your build
Thank you Taylor.
The peacocks in the background keep making me think my neighbors’ are in my yard again
I only have one peacock. His name is Peter.