Setting the Record Straight on Pep Guardiola
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Pep Guardiola has been described as everything from the greatest football manager of all time to a cheque-book manager who has only ever bought or inherited great teams.
In this video, HITC Sevens once again attempts to sort the fact from the fiction and reveal the truth behind the current Manchester City and former Barcelona and Bayern Munich boss.
New series; HITC Sevens: Mythbusters. The show where Alfie debunks myths and common misconceptions that he has seen. Possible copyright problems, but would be great. Just rebranding this series.
Doesn't need to be a new series just do some myth debunking videos
James Cowley why I said rebranding, more just rebranding, maybe a logo and intro idk. It would be cool as shit
@@dantespina7398 we don't need new logo's just the football 😂 not knocking your idea
James Cowley no just a series on this channel, everything stays the same, just the videos start with some graphic and slight changes. It’s still football talks
Before you decide to speak, you should think twice! As you are foolish!
He clearly hasn't seen my FIFA 20 road to glory with Macclesfield town
YO I DID THAT TOO LOOL CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNERS
He clearly hasnt watched Sir Barf
@@jakekavanagh08 or even masterbucks lol
muffin boy Sir Barf is 10x better
7 players that had to retire before 25
Tom Brash I automatically think of Michael Johnson. Oh what could’ve been.. 💭
You wouldn’t get it too many pukka pies 🥧
If you extend the criterion by 5 years, then we have more players. Sebastian Diesler, Dean Ashton, Fabrice Muamba, Ruben De La Red etc
Pogba...
While I almost entirely agree with the video, I think you missed out an important aspect of his time at Bayern. While he wasn’t breaking world transfer records or anything, a lot of the signings were weakening his domestic rivals. Surely, it’s far easier to win the Bundesliga when you’ve taken Lewandowski and Götze off Dortmund
So? He's still tactically using his money
BVB signed Reus, Gundogan, Klopp etc. from other Bundesliga clubs. All clubs weakens their domestic rivals.
if u are saying he is using money, wasn't lewa on a free?
As a Bundesliga fan, I can guarantee you that Dortmund weakens their concurrents at least the same. There are actually statistics about that and they show that uses more players from rival teams than Bayern, they use the most from all teams in the Bundesliga, If I remember correctly.
@@battistoberhoel8839 Yeah I get that but BVB buy from multiple rival teams not just the biggest one. Anytime a star pops out of Dortmund they are linked with Bayern not too long after.
Pep is the only manager ever who is a failure if he doesn’t win in the champions league every season.
Goofy he hasn’t won it in 12 years 😂😂😂😂fym talking about every season dumbahh
Considering his squads the criticism is fair
Still want to reconsider this?
Considering pep's been winning the CL for the past 10 years straight
@@AbdulK-kr2jv ?????? Bro he ain’t won in a decade+ what are you talking about lol
@@JamesMC2323 exactly bro. Like he ain't won in a decade. What does the guy mean when he says "pep failure because he doesn't win cL every season". Like at least win it once without messi if you're the greatest manager
Can you make a video about the controversial 2002 World Cup?
Or
Phillip Lahm's Last Starting XI -
Where are they now?
U had 69 likes I just couldn't ruin that
JD Vlogs ok i don't care tho
I would like to see that video bc I don't know the controversy
Nate basically the wc was held in korea/japan and there was matchfixing for korea, e.g they faced italy in the last 16
Korean players fouled Italians the ref did not give any penalties even though there should have been
The Koreans beat spain in the quarter finals due to more cheating
I recommend you watch the 2 matches on youtube, I hope this gives you some context about the controversy surrounding the 2002 WC
@@saeed_05 u sound like a utuber mate i like it
Could've made the point that he took over a Division 3 team and got them promoted.
Doesn’t matter if he spends money to buy players....some managers even with surplus amount wouldn’t be able to produce the results that Pep produces..
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Crazy Person what has he succeeded? 3wins against pep congratulations
@@nicb1359 You clearly didn't understand my comment. I meant that Ole is one of those who wouldn't succeed with surplus amounts of money.
@@tyrkun1624 If you think Ole had surplus amounts of money, you're actually deluded. He is having one of the worst boards in the world in his hands with a team that was broken to pieces when he arrived.
He is clearly doing a very good job so far considering what he had at his disposal and the injuries.
Before the season started, if you said United would've been in the running for a CL spot with a semifinal in League Cup and is in the running to win the FA Cup and Europa League, most people would've called you stupid.
The guy is clearly doing a very good job and I think it's only fair to criticise him at the end of his 3 year project and not now. As of now, he is very much on the up.
Adithya Prasad Ole may have an awful hoard behind him but you can’t ignore he immense amount of money he has to spend.
I've always said that Pep going to a second division team just to prove he's a good manager would be like working at the NASA building space rockets and then quitting just to go build home rockets with your son just to prove that you're good enough for the NASA.
Why you always Said that to pep and not to Ferguson or Mourinho or Ancelotti Bro just admit Guardiola the goat
@@pompastine100 Sir Alex won a lot with Aberdeen during a period when Celtic were a lethal respectable force that dominated Scottish league. Mourinho won UCL with Inter and Porto.
But come on, even Tony Stark had to build an arc reactor in a cave.. with a box of scraps
I agree, it's so annoying seeing people say that like its mandatory that he has to go to a smaller club to "pRoVe hiMsELf" he obviously wouldn't win stuff for a while if not ever, he cant play his style at Swindon town or something, he needs good players to fit the system, it's that simple, and good players cost a lot of money, he's not gonna go to Swindon town because Sancho_x_manunited on twitter begged him to stop winning trophies and go ruin his career, its ridiculous.
@@BetterDialLyle We're not talking about him going to Swindon Town though. We're talking about him doing something that isn't the equivalent of beginner mode on Fifa. I mean, he hasn't exactly had it difficult has he?
The argument that he couldn’t do it in league two is true, apart from the reasons Alfie said but also for the simple fact you need elite level players with elite mindsets and fitness levels, elite levels of dedication and a winning mindset.
This is the same problem players who were world class players tend to have when they manage non top flight teams, they ask the players to do something or play a certain way but they simply aren’t capable. I think Lampard made a similar quote recently about Derby, Peps football requires 150% commitment and he ekes every last drop out of players.
I never really understood the “he couldn’t do it in league 2” thing. He can do it much better then other managers at elite football, surely that’s what’s important?
@@jamesnorthcote3718 And Messi wouldn't get it done at league 2 either. No one from that Barcelona team would have except the CB.
What was the Lampard quote about Derby?
Nonsense - He did it first with a 4th division Barca B side that consisted of kids much younger than their peers and won the division & promotion
marcel c precisely, you need to spend big in elite football, and you can only expect to be on top if you have the right players for it. It’s nonsense to state that Guardiola or whoever should manage a lower tier team to prove his abilities.
I remember seeing Barcelona back then and thinking " damn, this is the most dominating football I've ever seen". I remember watching Bayern back then and thinking "sh*t, this is the best football I've ever seen". I rember watching City some years ago and thinking " oh fu*k, I've never seen a team destroy team's like this".
So yea, i think he might be doing some things right 🤔
@DEMONIC MACHINE lol u suck Garbage uninstall Bro Who's jupp i dont know Who is it Bro Tell me
@DEMONIC MACHINE an injured Messi calm down
@DEMONIC MACHINE are you stupid ?
1. You're the one who mentioned the name of 3 players.
2. 3 players you mentioned are even defenders so they themselves could not have stop the 7 goals .
3. Yes Messi played 1 full leg . He was just coming back from an injury and was not fully fit so pipe down .
4. I know Messi is only person . But that one person is difference between barca winning a match and barca losing a match . So calm down
@DEMONIC MACHINE When Bayern beat Barca 7-0 on aggregate, Tito Vilanova was the manager NOT Guardiola. Pep left the season before. Bayern beat Barca 7-0 in the 2012/13 season under Tito and mind you this was the time Tito was being hospitalized in New York from his cancer. Pep left the season before that, i.e 2011/12 season.
barca was so good becoz he had best possible players at his disposal at that time who were not in synchrony with raikad's tactics pep just instilled some good things which becoz of the players barca achieved everything.
Going to his recent man city success. It was becoz of kompany at the back, dominant fernandinhio at the holding, the magician david silva and kevin in the middle and sergio uptop. Now you see man city they have spent a forture on their backline the take goals, and with david silva gone kevin is not able to create alone becoz the main magician was david, and with sergio injured there is no one to finish.
It just proves that pep needs magical players who actually lead to team overachieving with some good that he does. But with same good things which he does he can't achieve big without magic players.
I love these videos, even prefer them over the sevens and would love to see them more often.
Pellegrini failed with De Bruyne, Yaya Toure, Aguero, and Sterling. It takes a top top manager to handle all these players.
Yaya Toure's best individual season came under Pellegrini.
Crazy Person I know mate
You could argue looking at their records that Pep hasn't achieved much more than Pellegrini at City.
@@Jim-so3zm are you high?
Toure was a beast under Pellegrini (2013/14 in particular)
I think Pep is amazing. What he has achieved speaks for itself tbh
Philthy Player When he achieved 6 titles in his first season, you knew what’s to come from this manager.
Yeah, with the greatest club side ever and a one team league where he weakened his domestic rivals.
@@Jim-so3zm Pep is a great manager but he’s also always been put in ideal situations. Along with what you mentioned at Barcelona and Bayern, he’s pretty much got an open check book to sign whoever he wants at Man City. It more than likely won’t ever happen, but put Guardiola at a mid table club that either doesn’t spend a ton of money or can’t spend a lot, and that would speak dividends towards how good of a manager he actually is.
Few things I want to add to this. If you think Pep needs a lot of money to be successful or he couldnt be successful without world class players, you should have started this video with what he did at Barca B. That is what lead to him being Barca's coach. He transformed that that Barca B team. Also its not about the money. its about having the right players to be able to implement your vision. None of Pep Guardiola's signings at Manchester City were marquee names. Look at the trajectory that players like Kevin De Bruyne and Raheem Sterling has had under Pep Guardiola. He has had players play in positions that they never have thought they would could. He had Messi play in a false 9 from a winger. He made Javier Mascherano and David Alaba thrive as center backs, a position which Alaba used even after Pep. There are a host of additional players as wel that have thrived under Pep's positional changes. Also I want to add that last season when Liverpool ran away with the Premier League title, it was Man City that still created the most chances amongst all the Premier League sides. The difference was that their finishing percentage was amongst the lowest. Again thats something out of Pep Guardiola's control. He put his team in the best positions to outscore the opponents. Pep for me was and is still the best coach in the world.
The fact that Bundesliga is pretty much a one-team league, it´s difficult to look at league-winning season as a huge success and that´s the issue with Guardiola too in Munich. Therefore failing to win the UEFA CL is looked as a massive setback. Putting things the way u did makes me look differently at his time at Bayern.
Do 7 teams whose female teams are outperforming their male counterparts
The US in top spot 100%
Arsenal sad to say as I am a gooner
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Great Idea
Tito Vilanova,Tata Martino,Luis Enrique,
All inherited same or better players than Pep,
But the Mesmerizing Football left with Pep.
We all know Enrique wouldn't be held to a high regard if MSN wasn't a thing.
And now it's outdated
Whatever it id, even if pep spends a ton of money, no other football teans are so plaeasing to watch and yet dominate the game
Two Premier Leagues and 3 League Cups in 5 years... Wow what a dynasty.
This is a bit different but it would be interesting. People need to understand the art of the regista role.
A title could be... Setting the record straight on the regista role.
eg. Sergio Busquets, Jorginho, Pirlo etc.
KTBFFH also raumdaghter role
fz 69 raumdeuter
Jeshua Esher can’t spell for shit but you get what I mean
It would be cool to hear Alfie's take on it. But you go to the Tifo Football channel, you'll see that they've already made excellent videos on both the regista and raumdeuter.
Fadhili Deche it’s the definition not there opinions it’s what’s a regista or reumdeuter not how good is it and what’s its importance
Do not ignore what he did in his first coaching position, a 4th division Barca B side full of kids - won promotion and dazzled. A lie more than a myth that he needed big money signings
been coming out with a couple of bangers recently. Love these type of videos
Also 10:54 is so true its painful
I just dont like how he treats players he doesnt want or like
It angers me whenever I see somebody call Guardiola a 'chequebook manager'
Me too
Hey man as a follower of your channel .
Can I ask you to make a video on the football in india from its inception.
As it has some of the oldest football clubs and oldest football club in asia.
It's an ardent request as hugh fan of this channel.
Thank you 😊
When the going gets tough pep gets going 😁
Lloyd Fernandes yeah, going to another club
Tateybigmouth Reee which is why he’s said he’s staying next season and potentially signing a new contract but okay😂
Tom Goodier the fact you believe him 😂😂😂
Clemmy clemm hes said it multiple times saying he’ll be loyal so
@@tomgoodier2802 and Sol Campbell said he wasn't leaving totenham... and Ashley cole said he wasn't leaving arsenal... you should 100% believes everything a player or manager tells you.
Loved the Barca side around a decade ago but that wasn’t due to pep. I loved Ronaldinho Eto’o etc. Then the evolution of Messi, Xavi (we know the list). That was the greatest team I’ve ever seen and it wasn’t due to the manager, they were all great players in their own right who suited perfectly. MSN afterwards also was a great team
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I think the one valid criticism you can make of Guardiola is that he is actually too much of an idealist. He more often than not seem to have no plan B, if things don't go his way, which they mostly do I will admit. Surely adaptability of tactis etc. has to be a key element when judging a top manager. His stubbornness also sometimes seem to blind him. Putting Bravo in goal for City because he is "good with his feet", nevemind that he can't do the basics of goalkeeping! I respect Guardiola a lot for these very reasons, but these are also the reasons i prefer Mourinho.
Convenient how you decided to look at only Barca's last season before Pep and then go back more than 10 years for Bayern just to prove a point. You made several really weak points trying to defend him here, you at least admited its becuase of your bias which is totally fair. At the end of the day he is both overrated and underrated imo, depending on who you ask. People like you will think he is some sort of football messiah while others would say he is no better than Steve Bruce...
PastDowntown ___ back then Bayern still we’re not winning the bundesliga every season like they do now tho
1) I think you've gotten some things mixed up because he clearly spoke about how between 99/00 and 07/08, Barça only won 2 Ligas.
2) How did his bias come out in this video? The only hint of bias was when he briefly mentioned towards the end that the only element of his affinity towards Guardiola that's remotely biased has to do with his liking for his style of play. Otherwise, the bulk of his video consists of arguments that utilize strictly objective parameters (e.g. overall titles won and titles won relative to seasons prior to his arrival).
@@fadhilideche2831 Except its not really objective when he is constantly changing arguments just to fit his narative. Take those La Liga numbers you mentioned. Barca won 2 title in 4 years before Pep took over, but Alfie purposefully extended the time frame to 99/00 just so it would seem that Barca were unsuccessful before Guardiola. Again no problem in being biased but don't make it out to be universal truth, when it's just your opinion.
@@nenadjasarevic446 What I think Alfie did was this: he spoke about the two season's immediately preceding Pep's arrival in order to highlight the fact that the club was in a relative rut and then he spoke about the previous ten to emphasize the fact that Barça were hardly a dominant force in Spanish football (though, they were undoubtedly a top side).
Ultimately, what I think Alfie's point is this: Would Barça have managed to be successful with a different manager other than Pep? Almost certainly yes. Would Barça have managed to attain the SAME RIDICULOUS LEVEL OF SUCCESS without Pep? Almost certainly no.
And the same is true for both City and Bayern. All three were big clubs that experienced a lot of success before Pep came to them. But the thing that Pep deserves credit for them is that he took each of them to levels that none of them had seen before. Hence why the idea that any manager could have done just as well is grossly unfair.
@@fadhilideche2831 You are absolutely right with that second part. There is a reason basically every big club in Europe wanted to get Pep at some point, he takes a side that is best in the country and makes them best in the world. Guess I just thought this was one of those "sucking off Pep" fests because Alfie was so defensive throughout the video and didn't formulate his points that well.
Cheers!
Pep is a great manager but not the best coach. He has always had, in my opinion, the best team and a massive budget. Sure he didn’t spend much at Bayern but the club gave huge contracts to players for him and bought the best two players from his biggest competitor for him so that is saying a lot more than this video gives credit. Man City have won the league 6 times in the last 7 and yet he is still spending big money every window because he can. What more does that team need? Though just because you have an expensive team doesn’t mean you win. You only have to look at Chelsea to see that. So you can credit Pep for that.
Pep isn’t a project manager though. He has never had a project in his career. He takes over teams that are already winning trophies. When he buys players he buys players that are already very good if not world class so he doesn’t really have to do much to improve them. If they fail under him then they fail and he just plays someone else because again he has a budget which has given him a nice bench. Arteta has Nketiah as a back up for Jesus and he nearly wins the league. That to me is a manager who can create wins from lack of depth and talent. Not Pep who has Alverez, Haaland, Grealish and Foden. 3 of those were big signings and world class before they came to him who would get in any team. What bothers me most is he times his jobs perfectly. Skipping over the obvious Barca team he took over. He takes over a Bayern at the right time. Then City when they are starting to become a very consistent PL trophy winning team. Mark my words in a few years time when City get done for all the rules they have been breaking then he will leave. By this time Newcastle will have gone through a couple more managers who have built a title winning team and boom Pep will swoop in, become Newcastles manager and remain a manager who has always had a great team with a huge budget and wins everything.
This man is great but come on…. He is spoiled and always has been.
You forgot to mention specific players he's made from good to great. Thiago, Sterling, Busquets, etc...
Sterling was gonna be great regardless. He was on the trajectory.
@@kingwata1 He was good, but had the end product of Andreas Pereira. Pep turned him into a goal machine and essentially the best English player in the league.
Guardiola is like the kid who comes into the candy shop with rich parents
Hi Alfie, hope you’re keeping well during this bizarre period ! I would love to see a video similar to this dissecting the “Regista Role”. Cheers
Can you please do a video that showcases how underrated Vicente Del Bosque accomplishments are plus working with superstar players and merging them together including his very bland character on the bench 😅
Before I go on, I don't not rate Pep, I think he's an amazing manager and has changed the game
But, I will say, there are 2 things about him, 1, it's more of a pipe dream really, but I'd love to see what he can do without the funds, imagine if he had to operate on like Sheffield United's budget, or one even less, like Millwall or some budget like that, where they're weekly wage between all the players is probably under 120K and their budget on players is like, 5 million max, I'd love to see what Pep could do there
But the one real criticism I have of him comes to one part of his man management, over his entire career I'd say he's only had 2 players with real strong ego's and "personalities" in Ronaldiniho and Zlatan, Ronaldiniho was sold basically immedinatly, and, well, he basically left Zlatan out to dry cause he wanted Messi central (seriously, he literally spends 60 odd million plus Eto'o and he doesn't play him, biggest mistake in Pep's career if you ask me) and he does tend to avoid the big egos to this day, whether it be out of a level of fear or a level of "I really can't be bothered" it is something that is noticeable, is it bad, probably not overall, but when Zlatan was at Barca, yes
Given what Guardiola did at Barcelona, and how Messi played through the middle, I'm not sure how you can say not playing Ibrahimovic was a mistake. There isn't much more Pep could have done at Barca.
@@HITCSevens not denying that Messi did amazing, but it is one heck of a big what if moment, we all know how good Messi is on the right, now imagine some of his crosses onto the head of Zlatan, we see what he's done with Suarez, it could've taken Barca to an even more unachievable level
@@BlazinBlz Your 1st point was answered very clearly in the video .. it is like asking Einstien to use my brain and top Putnam Competition...
2ndly ...every manager can have problems with their players.....u ppl don't want to look at the +ve side like how many players Pep transformed...Sterling, Kimmich, lord Otamendi, Delph, Fernandinho, Busquets, Pique, Kingsley Coman, Thiago, Boateng, Alaba... I can go on and on...... Nobody is perfect... And no manager get this much hate Pep gets because he wins trophies by dominating teams.... and not to forget he always backs his players defends their worst performances, unlike Jose.. and most importantly he brings joy to fans...Ppl don't buy tickets to watch bus parking... ppl watch football to get entertained...
By your logic Messi isn't a truly great players until he wins La Liga with a mid table team
To put it simple,
Wasnt as interested in Football before Pep,wont be after,
Pep the only Manager to play the Beautiful Game with Aesthetics.
How old are you?
Jimmy McNulty lad you say “willy” you can fuck right off 9 year old
1. He is Catalan, not Spaniard. Nationalism is a complex thing, but many Catalans wish for independence from Spain. It's similar to if Great Britain was a country and Scotland wanted independence. It's really disrespectful to refer to him as Spaniard when he has on many occasions supported Catalan independence and was even fined for showing his support for political figures who were incarcerated for organizing a vote for Catalan independence.
Ok, now lets go by his time at his three different clubs and analyse them a bit. First is Barcelona.
2. I agree with the point that talented players don't make a a good team. You need a sporting project as well as players willing to buy into it. Many clubs understand this now, that's why they have a footballing director, or sporting director. (Nevertheless that doesn't mean you put a head coach who has no say in transfers as opposed to a manager who does have a say, although maybe not the last word, that's a topic for another day)
The first Galactico era was a good example. We don't even have to go back in time; look at the Barcelona team now. They bought Coutinho who was a coveted footballer and in the span of a year and a half zapped his confidence and shipped him to Bayern on a loan after he failed to impress.
Anyway, that's a story for another time. The point is that the team that Pep inherited in '08 was far from great. Yes, they had a lot of talent, but for one thing, Xavi and Iniesta never played together because that midfield was seen as too weak in an era of physical football at the time in Spain. It was either Xavi or Iniesta, (usually Xavi) never the two together. Pep made it work, however.
3. I disagree with your assesement that Messi would have shone anywhere. Again, this is something that will never get credit for, but I would argue that he unlocked Messi's full potential. For one thing, Messi was a good, tricky winger when Pep first arrived. Nevertheless, he was very injury prone. He was like Dembele, injured every 6 weeks.
The first thing that Pep did when he first arrived was change Messi's diet. That went a long way. There was also a change in training regiment not only for him but for all of the team as well.
But I would argue the best thing he did besides that buying Alves and selling Ronaldinho, which brings me to my next point.
4. Selling Ronaldinho was necessary not only for the long term health of the club, but also to the development of Messi.
by 2006, Ronaldinho had fallen out of love with the game for whatever reason. I mean, he had achieved pretty much everything he set out to achieve in the game. He had a world cup, a ballon d'or, champions league, etc. He was universally regarded as the best player on the planet at some point. I guess once he had that, he lacked any motivation to keep going. It wasn't until the 2007-2008 season that became evident, however. He had gained a lot of weight, was known to attend training sessions hungover after a night out on the town and was more known for partying than his professionalism. Not only him, but Deco as well. Pep didn't want Messi doing that same thing so the first thing that he did was kick both Deco and Ronaldinho out. Thankfully he had the backing of the board. Nowadays if you tell your board that you want to sell players because they've become toxic in the locker room you'll probably be the one getting the sack, look at Pochettino... anyway, moving on.
Now, onto Bayern Munich. He won the double every year he was there, but he was still seen as a failure in spite of the fact that it's not like Bayern was winning UCL's every year before he got there. Yes, they had made the final 3 out of the last 4 winning one but before that, you'd have to go back a decade for their last finals appearance. Which brings me to my next point:
5. Not winning the Champions League with Bayern does NOT mean a lack of success.
Following on from my previous point. People think that just because you won a league, or anything, you're going to keep on winning. You kinda hinted at it, but often times after a team wins the champions league, they don't really win it again for several years.
One reason which is the obvious one is that the champions league is a knockout competition. We've already seen that one dodgy refereeing decision or one unlucky bounce can mean the difference between advancing or going home. We saw it last year with the no handball call on Llorente for Spurs' goal or this year with Liverpool going out even though they created enough chances to win 4 nil vs Atletico.
In one year, they went out to Atletico Madrid in a similar fashion that Liverpool went out to them this year. In the year prior they went out to a potent Barcelona side featuring Messi, Suarez and Neymar back when they actually pressed and Neymar was still somewhat humble to want to work for the team. There's talks of brining Neymar back to Barcelona. That's a suicide mission with all three of them in the same team. They are kinda like Ronaldinho not in the sense that they are known more for their partying than their professionalism (except for Neymar) but in the sense that they think they can live off past glory alone. I don't want Neymar back and Suarez can leave. The only one we can allow not to press is Messi.
Furthermore, mentality and motivation can mean the difference between winning or losing it. It's those intangibles that means you get to 50/50 balls quicker or give that extra edge when you have already won something. I'm not saying that players do it consciously, in fact its the opposite. That does influence proceedings.
Nevertheless, I will say that it was a bit of a dick move to pry Gotze and Lewandowski from Dortmund. That strengthened your team and weakened the opposition. Although to be honest I don't really know how much influence Pep had over those signings. Gotze already had contract sign before Guardiola took charge and Lewandowski followed the year after on a free. I'm sure there was some tapping up the year prior by the Bayern hierarchy was they usually do (see Leroy Sane.)
5. Lastly, yes, there's been a lot of spending at Man City. That said, you also have to look at it in the context of what is going on all around them. They haven't spend 90 million pounds on a single player like what United was doing 3/4 years ago. Rather, they've been making smart buys for around the 50-60 range.
10 years ago, 80 million pounds go you Cristiano Ronaldo, a world class player (best player on the planet summer 2009) but fast forward 10 years, all that gets you is a good, but not necessarily world class defender. Let's be honest, Slabhead is a decent defender who only looks better than he is because there is no other solid CB available for an england call up, at least at the time he was sold. He is not better or at a similar level to Van Dijk who we can all agree is the best defender in the world right now. He is at leasy two rungs below. Let's be honest, there was a 10 million pound tax because he's British and a 20 million Man United tax.
Anyway, I'll leave Maguire alone, it's not his fault the market is inflated, but that's exactly my point, the market is inflated. Spending 50-60 pounds for a player now is the equivalent of buying one for 15-20 pounds 10 years ago specially if you're at the top of the premier league and clubs know that you have money. They try to take all that they can, just ask Man United.
Well said, especially on the pressing part with neymar, messi, suarez, too many divas in a team isn’t good. Talented, yes, but that alone isn’t enough in this era.
I'd love a video on football in England between the end of the first world and the start of the second world war. With all the turmoil of the 20's and 30's after a mass population loss from the great war, the Spanish flu pandemic and the great depression from the wall street crash. Hope all is good, Alfie
This is genuinely the best video you have ever made.
Great video!
Ps. Imagine not listening to *both* Bob Dylan and Coldplay.
Guardiola being a “chequebook manager” is one of the biggest myths in football.
Last time I checked Mourinho and Ancelotti have spent more than Guardiola and have been managing for longer, yet they’ve won fewer trophies.
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13:09 I think it’s robotic. Much prefer to watch Klopp’s teams, Bayern recently and Barca MSN before that…
Great points and great video but u got the criticism wrong .. pep is a few titles away from being the best manager in history.. the thing is he never did something like Mourinho with Porto klopp with Dortmund .. in barca and bayern pep didnt need to spend a lot of money players wanted to go their because of the salary and team's name as much as wanting to learn from pep .. no need to speak about mancity cuz ma man be spending hella cash.. the overall point of the criticism that pep endures is the same as zizou : it's like criticizing them for having an F in an exam the didn't even pass.
This whole fraudiola thing is a load of bollocks but he's also not the greatest manager ever like some people big him up to be. E.g. His unwillingness to bring through youth apart from the odd player now and again and him failing to win the champions league since barca
People say guardiola is a chekbook manager when ancelotti have spent more money than him
Klopp is a better manager because he has not been given a 200 mill budget every season klopp makes players Guardiola buys and improves players but pep is a brilliant manager but klopps better
No.period.
Very simplistic/false narrative that, Claire. Both great managers. Klopp has 'bought' plenty of players, and Guardiola has 'made' plenty of players too.
Claire Almen but that’s just factually incorrect isn’t it, he literally makes that point in the video. If you take VVD, Mane, Salah and Alisson out of that team they would be around 5th or 6th. Apart from TAA those are undoubtedly Liverpool’s best players. All of which he bought.
Klopp is a very good manager and is very good at getting players to step up, but to to make such a silly point as that shows the lack of memory fans have. For 12 years Peps teams have played the best football that club European football has ever seen. If you’ve ever seen a Pep side play live you would know just what a great manager he is.
It seems people can only ever seem to remember the current season, which is the problem here, I also think a lot of people who make such a point tend to be high school kids with no real memory or football education.
Yh but in Barca he didn't have that budget and was still dominant
klopps teams burn out so drastically look at his last season at bvb
Go through every prem team and pick their best ever player from each continent, could do a series of it.
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I agree with the video but as a Manchester United fan I hated how unstoppable his Barcelona side felt specially against us in the 2 champions league finals. Respect to Guardiola.
You didn’t mention once any of the players he bought that he failed to coach, and in doing so he shut them out
And what does they actually say? And how many of those players went on to become great players??
@@goodevil1227 Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Samuel Eto, Mario Götze.
@@shyamaprosadbanerjee8626 Mario Gotze has never been that good. Etoo and Zlatan hadoff the field issues with Pep. Nothing to do with on field issues. No top coach likes to deal with players with big egos because they have their own big fat egos as well.
@@goodevil1227 No brother Eto and Zlatan had on the field issues. They were being played out of position and they have their point because they both were performing excellent in their own positions. Same with Thierry Henry. Another great player Ronaldinho. And truly speaking Zlatan and Eto are immensely hard working players and they give their all for the team. Except Pep every other coach in the world treasured Zlatan, as he was the leader and their voice on the pitch.
@@shyamaprosadbanerjee8626 Etoo and Zlatan openly spoke about their issues with Pep. Not denying their greatness as a player. Ronaldinho was out of control with lifestyle. He had to go.
Lots of very good points very well made really enjoyable video
Nailed on analysis!! I'm not a fan of guardiola but he is one of the best managers in the world and deserves more credit than he gets.
Bald Fraud he has only won the champions league with Messi
I agree with everything you said but look at Xavi and Iniesta they won Euro 2008 at a time where Pep was not the Barcelona plus Xavi was the player of the tournament and in regarding Messi he came 3rd in 2007 for the Ballon dor and 2nd in 2008, At Bayern he inherited the European Champions and he signed players from direct rivals which made them weak
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I think this is overall a fair argument. I've never said Pep is less than a great manager. I do think Jurgen Klopp edges him for the best manager in the modern era, because he *has* won doing multiple job descriptions.
At BVB, he took a mid-table side on the edge of insolvency, and through hard work and his football ideology, won multiple league titles and restored Dortmund to a global footballing brand. He didn't spend big. He primarily used players on hand or cast-offs from other clubs, and he won titles with players who frequently produced less everywhere else they played (Nuri Sahin).
Then he went to Liverpool and won with Premier League resources, still playing football the way he believes it should be played. Like Pep, there were a lot of people who believed Gegenpressing wouldn't work in England. That the high lines would be suicide. That the tempo couldn't be maintained. But Klopp has done everything that could be asked of a manager at Liverpool. And held up well in his confrontations with other elite managers like Pep and Mourinho.
So for me, while I agree both are elite managers, if we're asking which is the best manager of this generation, I say Klopp over Pep.
Hear that, keyboard warriors? Thats what sense sounds like.
Well, this aged badly.
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Love these types of videos!
For 250k you should do a team or top 7 of your favourite players (not the best) but the ones you enjoy the most and have the most connection to
I think Pep deserves far more criticism for his time at Bayern, while he did dominate the league and win the Pokal twice, which is impressive, he did it with one of the strongest teams in Europe with many players that have been the best in their position. Also you have to look at the Bundesliga at the time, Dortmund had just sold basically all their best players (mostly to Bayern) so they were in no position to compete, and other teams like Leverkusen, Gladbach, Bremen and Wolfsburg just weren't at the quality to compete. So Pep winning the bundesliga isn't really an accomplishment, the only trophy he was brought in to win he failed and then left. Now don't get me wrong, Pep is a great manager, but his time at Bayern is a failure, especially compared to what he did at Barca with (i'd argue) a weaker team that what Bayern had.
I am a Bayern Fan since 2007 and no Pep is not a failure. He is the best Bayern Manager after Jupp left Bayern and we never replaced him ( Ancelotti and Kovac flopped, but Ancelotti did have a great reputation over the world, but he flopped in Bayern....hypocrite ).
Pep is the only Bayern Manager who reached 3 Times in a row the semi Final of the UEFA Champions League, nobody ever achieved that as a Bayern Coach, not even Jupp Heynckes or Ottmar Hitzfeld.
And Pep didn’t have any says on Transfer. By Bayern the transfer policy is litte bit different. The Board and the sporting director are deciding the Transfers with the Coach.
Pep wanted in his Bayern Days Neymar and De Bruyne, but Bayern bought instead of Neymar, Götze and Pep never wanted Götze.
And De Bruyne was expensive.
Pep also wanted Laporte but our club didn’t want him, they bought Benatia and he flopped.
Then there were the Kroos Case. Pep said to the board that Kroos has to stay at any cost. However the board wouldn’t give Kroos his 10 million Euro wage per year and he left.
Pep was a great Bayern Coach and he is still respected by many Bayern Fans and the club. His Time was not a failure.
And Bayern lost the CL Games against Barcelona, Real Madrid and the best Atletico Madrid side ever. Not like City, against Monaco or freaking Spurs.
@@mehmetakgoz6907 Obviously you're a Bayern fan and you know a hell of alot more about your club than I do. But yes credit where it is due, Pep is great, and yes 3 semi-final appearances are incredible, as a Gladbach fan I'd be happy just to reach the quarter-finals or the competition in general. But with Pep he was brought in to take you to the finals and win those finals, not just to lose in the semi-finals, he was to make your club better than Real or Barca, which given just how talented your club was/still is, could have beaten those sides.
And with the Goetze thing, just a side note but I think Pep kinda ruined him, like the injuries definitely did most of the damage but Pep not liking him and stuff really damaged his recovery, like with Kaka and Mourinho.
So I think maybe Peps time in Bayern wasn't a failure, I might have been a bit harsh there, but I think given the talent of your team and manager, a disappointment would be a better word for it.
Inselaffe Of course my club wanted to win another CL. Yeah Pep could has reach this aim, but i think we can accept that Pep made a good job and Bayern were still one of the best teams in the world. Other Top Club are become better too, that is modern Football.
At least Bayern didn’t became antoher Inter Milan, Chelsea or Man Utd.
Bayern were under Pep consistent and broke many records in the Bundesliga.
In the CL we perfomed good aswell.
Pep liked Götze but Götze problem was Müller. Müller was the main man in the central attacking position and he was a local player too.
And Götze couldn‘t play well in the CM or Winger Position.
And then Götzes fitness was bad, he was for years ill ( He became fat ).
He himself said that he trained too much and his body couldn’t make enough muscles.
But i can understand when some people think that Pep could reach so much more with his Bayern squad in the past, but there are arguments against and for it.
@@mehmetakgoz6907 I understand and respect your arguments, you've actually made me realize that Pep is a bit better than I thought, just yes there are arguments against him which I support more, which might just be because I'm a fan of a different Bundesliga club.
Ah ok, I know most of Gotzes issues were because of that muscle illness thing, just when you said earlier about Pep not liking him I thought that might have also caused an issue. to be honest, I don't know why Gotze went to Bayern, as Bayern had such a competitive midfield that always starting ahead of Muller would be impossible, he should have left the bundesliga instead or just stayed at Dortmund like Reus did, after Reus stabbed Gladbach in the back of course.
Anyway good luck when the Bundesliga starts, you will probably win it again, I just hope we can keep it competitive for as long as possible.
Inselaffe I even don‘t understand why Bayern wanted Götze so badly. We had Müller, Kroos, Schweinsteiger, Emre Can for the CM and CAM position.
In the summer Pep wanted Thiago too for these positions.
Götze was at that moment very useless. Even when Can left, we don’t needed Götze.
Uli and Kalle are the reason why Bayern bought Götze. Because he was german, a big talent. Götze was in the same talent category like Neymar and Hazard. But still that shouldn’t be a reason to buy him if we can‘t use him right.
It was just a marketing transfer and a little bit hope that he can lead Bayern in the future to compete for every trophy.
Top 7 overhyped players
This one would be amazing
That’s pretty much just Liverpool’s 7 youngest players
Tom Breslin nah
By which criteria would you rank the players?
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Even with his flaws by far is a top 5 manager of all time. Imo my top 5 managers are:
1. Rinus Michels
2. Sir Alex Ferguson
3. Johan Cruyff
4. Pep Guardiola
5. Jose Mourhino
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@@PJ-cm8ix im sorry as good Kloop is for me he's between 8 -15th in an all time manager list but he's top 3 if were talking this decade.
@@warlikebiscuit9113 We can agree to disagree as much as I love pep as a manager,he has only managed top teams and has even then struggled to win the champion's league with them (Bayern Munich especially) whereas klopp has taken the rather smaller teams to European success
@@warlikebiscuit9113 he will make it into top 10 soon.
@@PJ-cm8ix i get you man yeah what Kloop did at Liverpool and Dortmund is especially impressive but, for me one thing that messes Kloop up for me was his last season at Dortmund and he still hasn't officially won the league with Liverpool yet though they mostly likely will next month, but just from sheer trophies and plus imo the impact that Guardiola had in Messi slightly trumps all the players Kloop has improved, yes Guardiolas stock at City has dropped especially this season, but whole career wise Pep has been successful as manager almost five years more.then Kloop. More me Kloop Historically rn is just about 10th where as I still see Guardiola historically in the top five who knows he'll probably for me be just outside the top 5 or overtake Mourihno when he retires but as of right now he is outside of the top 10 only just.
I remember when he got appointed at Barca and replaced all the big stars with young unknown players. Everyone thought it was madness, and that he surely be sacked before Christmas
5:22 How was that a master stroke by pep? The reasons for Ronaldinho leaving are debated to be him turning up to training drunk and Ronaldinho wanting to leave. Also, imagine that Barca side with Ronaldinho and Messi becoming unplayable. I say Pep took the MessixXavixIniestaxRonaldinho partnerships away from us too soon
could you maybe do a video on Kjøbenhavns Boldklub , they hold the record for most danish league titles but now play in the fifth tier
When the going gets tough, the stuffed get going, when the going gets rough, the stuffed get going
Pep is the guy you bring in when you have a high floor but need to raise the ceiling. Not the guy you bring in for the purpose of laying foundations, raising the floor. Although I would suspect he could do that. But it would be something that ruins not enhances a reputation. Sir Alex Ferguson for example is criticised for raising the floor and maintaining a standard but rarely achieving the highest ceiling. But what he did is what made him great. Tearing down a tallented but not competative enough team at United, even going so far as having multiple bad seasons before he managed to build a core standard and push on. Lots of mistakes but magnificent relentless competativeness. Pep can maintain standards and is showing that at City, even having superb heights. You should never see him have to take over a club in a real crisis. He was very fortunate to be given the Barcalona chance with such great resources, but he made more of that chance than any rookie manager I caj think of.
Guardiola is a fantastic manager but in my opinion is also overhyped to some extent.
New series idea: team of the league.
Unlike a normal "best player on each team", the task is to make a balanced team of starting XI, subs and possibly reserves with one player from each team in a league. Total player number depends on the league.
Best footballer of every decade eg messi 2010s maradona 1980s
Soooooo misleading man:
Your first point he took over a Barca side that finished 3rd, 18pts behind Madrid.
The full truth:
2004/05: Barca won the league by 3pts
2005/06: Barca won the league by 12pts
2006/07: Barca, with equal points as Madrid and a better GD finished 2nd due to a rule in laliga where it’s based on head to head
2007/08: 3rd
2008/09: Barca won the league by 9pts
So based on the full truth would you not put the 2007/08 season down as a blip and not due to a bad Barca side?
The last 7 top goal scorers for atalanta would be interesting.
Bayern won the league because they bought all their rival best players. Lewandoski, Hummels, and . Aside there were exodus of Dortmund best players leaving too.
Your argument about the coaches comparison with lower league is flawed. We only compare Pep, Mourinho, Klopp, Ancelotti.
He is also unbelievably stubborn, lacks empathy, and doesn't give a lot of players the respect they deserve, just because they aren't right for his system to win (Yaya, Zlatan, Eto'o, Gotze have all publicly said things like this). I would rather a manager like klopp who every player, even the benchwarmers, would die for.
Yeah indeed football is all about preference, some idiots like me never enjoy football getting recycled for bout 10 minutes sideways through overloads, but rather with quick transition from back to forward line,, Thats why i always enjoy Klopp teams. But Pep is a brilliant Manager who has done great things for football.
It is also untrue that Pep buys the players at city. Txiki has all control over player recruitment
Just let pep manages team like arsenal, not a small team but obviously not a top tier one either.
With their players skill level, their passive owner & board, and mike dean as referee.
Can Pep make success there??
It'll be interesting but he wouldn't take that challenge IMO
Make a video of every premier league club’s country with the most supporters outside of England
though barca of that time had not won before his arival but one can't deny that those players were not one of the best in the world so he instilled something good and the tanlent once they came in right frame did it all. Same goes for bayern and man city also but both of them lacked the uber talented players which the barca squad had. So he was unable to win a UCL with them. Also due his succes he overthinks a lot toying around with formations tactics thinking he can outplay anyone just becoz of what he has achieved has let getting him fucked up.
As far as liverpool go klopp is a better manager then him becoz he did not have that big a name players with him neither at dortmund nor at liverpool but with his tactics and man management he turned them into a group of beast.
I would even rate jose above pep becoz jose has prover himself at porto by winning ucl with average group of players which pep could have never done in his life. Not only that jose proved himself even at inter, madrid and chelsea also. Also the condition in which jose inherited spurs and to what spurs are now pep would have never been able to do that.
You forgot to mention specific players he's made from good to great. Thiago, Sterling, Busquets, etc...
Football will be great again once the transfer market is more regulated. This oligopoly of big club domination has been killing the game since commercialization went into maniacal hyperdrive in the mid 90s.
I'm not a big pep fan but he got rid of ronaldinho to give messi a more promanent role & gave busquets iniesta more pivital roles & brining pique back was inspired & look at barca this uear players are past thier prime but should still be performing better so coaching comes in to it. I think the buying sucess comes from his time at city. I do think germany is a 1 team league though bayern lose it rather than others winning it.
Agree with you here for most part but still not a fan of pele.
you pple should be ashamed of yourself.the truth is contradicting yourself.pep is the goat manager,his philosophy is sweet and enduring,his barca with little or no money spent is the best club in history,if he has a rival, you come up, i dare you
I prefer a less idealistic more defensively sound style of football. This doesn’t mean Pep is bad, I think I’m just weird.
I think what people who are not watching every game misses is how Peps obsession with possession is an excellent way to raise the floor of performance and thus makes his teams great for long league seasons.
Comparing pep to chris is stupid due to the clubs being different we see it all the time managers winning a league multiple times but can do anything in the division above usually happens with conference and league 2 and the step from championship to prem just a thing does the make chris better than pep hell no it just means he is better at finding players for the future and he understands how to get the best out of not so good footballers where as pep is better at getting the best out of the best players
i love your vids
Messi carried Pep
imagine thinking pique is wc looooooool
Last time I was this early, Pep Guardiola had a full head of fair
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Give Pep a decent squad and 2 years, he will win you the league. The champions league is a doubt.
7:27 too easy a point or a bad point. Teams normally struggle after sacking their managers after winning a CL? Every club differs and so do situations. Not to mention Bayern actually reached 2 CL finals in 2012 and 2013 before Pep joined. Success that wasn’t replicated in the 3 years he was there
when pep was in spain, spain national team was unstoppable, he went to germany and germany national team won world cup, then pep arrives at england and england team who harldy ever made progress in national competitions finished at semi's, coincidence i think not
Barcelona and Bayern were the basis of the last successful Spanish and German national teams, but Man City is barely involved with the English national team. So that one is a coincidence. And the first two had genius managers as well, in Vicente del Bosque and Joachim Löw.
+1 Pep's wardrobe is a testament to the brand of football he likes to play.
Why did you have to do coldplay like that 😅
I think the main reason why people criticise him so much is because they're jelous
If you’ve got money just use it for what you need. Simple.