@@nardodelacueva7760 Tbh agreed but I have also come to accept that Arsene was also doing it to himself. Compare how Arteta managers to Arsene, Arteta has built a squad that can do a lot of things, it's not just his single ideal way of Football. Arsene was trying to play his beautiful football with at times sub-par players. I'm sure he knew deep down but it was not obvious to us that he knew what got him there was the solid core he inherited. Arsene came into a top side with a great defence and revolutionised its attack. 15 years later it was like he forgot that.
@@sindanonegongo1199 Mmmm yes very relevant to the discussion 🙄 Way to contribute 👍 While we're at it let's talk about 97-98 because that's totally relevant to the discussion at hand. 🙄👎
@@JB-px6ql3 teams got 80+ points in that season with Arsenal getting 79 points and all 20 teams got 30+ points. That’s about as competitive as it gets.
@@JB-px6qlCompare that to now, teams get top 4 with less than 70 points and relegated teams all get less than 30 points. Is that competitive compared to back then?
@JB-px6ql You are wrong. Arsene was never given a budget to go out and buy players. He had to sell to buy. The net spend at the club over a 10 year period was something like +£2 million. He was the only manager on earth that could get his team in the CL every season without spending. Funnily enough, he lost his way when the club eventually gave him money to spend.
Absolutely loved wenger, wish he had been given the chance to invest in the players he wanted after all the sacrifices he made of selling our best players for year's and having to find bargains.
To me, he has given his best every season..it wasn't greed or arrogance.. He knew that he didn't win major trophies for long so he'll keep doing what he can until he retired. I still have massive respect for wenger 🫡
@@jeannotschumacher1024no other manager would have transferred us successfully from the old to the new stadium with the lack of transfer funds available whilst getting consistent top 4. Shame on the disrespect from any so called ‘fans’. The Wenger Out phase was disgraceful.
@@davideddy6024 why? Totally wrong approach of the game. If you don't have enough money to compete footballwise take the defensif approach as it costs less. Easy to see but not for him. Sorry.. wenger hat no tactical nouse and that was permitted 10 years too long.
@@davideddy6024 he was a legend but a dinosaur man. you forgot we werent even getting top 4 in his last few seasons. we can appreciate that he was a legend for us but also that he had to go
What a load bollox he achieved so much every year with the budget he had , I believe non of best managers in the world couldnt pull of what Wenger did for budget he had
Better/more attractive football then Fergie Spent half the money yet double the fun Didn’t need extra 4 minutes stoppage time whenever chasing a match Revolutionised English football in terms of style & introduced science diet Arsene’s only crime been French which’s unfortunate in this country is a disadvantage
nah board was being too selfish with spending I mean if they helped arsenal invest in good players at least sometime in 2007 - 2012, they should have won the premiership on one occasion, but the board kept giving him money to spend on meaningless players
The stadium ran way over budget. Arsenal is and has never been owned by individuals with hundreds of billions who freely pump into the club. Arsenal were broke
2013-14 was 100x better than 2012-13. Proper top 4 battles, less lower team slip ups, our Arch Rivals were gone from the top. We had an actual trophy. Didn't lose at home to championship team. My personal life outside of watching football became much better than the poor struggle in the season before this.
His biggest criticism was not spending big money on top players. But he proved all the critiques wrong as we have seen how much money United have spent on players since post Fergie and some of them were top name at the time and look where they are. Arsene has just shown that he prioritized in buying the "right player" . Plus now we know how difficult it is to get into the top four WHILE managing a team with financial debt and bearing impatient pundits who just want bragging rights (who really know nothing about management)
How is that a criticism if he never had big money to spend on big players. He was only able to post 2014 when he started buying Ozil, Sanchez, Lacazette, Aubameyang. Between 2005 and 2014 he was severely restricted due to the building costs of the Emirates which was still running through
Honestly this was such a great video. And now that some years have passed since Wenger left I have some thoughts. 1) The glory years were incredible but it's still shocking we didn't at least get to 1 more UCL final and possibly win it. (2004 should've been the year). 2) 2006-2013 weren't AWFUL years considering we had no money and kept losing our best players. We still got top 4 and were okay in the UCL (a few quarter finals and a semi in 2009). The only disgraceful moment during this time was losing the league cup final to Birmingham. 3) 2014 and 2015 were the best 2 years of The Emirates Era (Under Wenger) since 2007 and 2008. Winning those 2 Fa Cups B2B are still some of my favourite memories under Wenger. And the football we played plus some of the players we had were great. 4) 2016-2018 were a disgrace. People just brush over the fact we lost a league title to Leicester despite having several great players. Losing 4-0 Southampton, losing 3-2 United, 2-1 to Swansea at home were awful results. Also, the humiliation to Bayern in the UCL summed it up. We had some good players but as a team we weren't built to win. 5) People really need to stop rewriting history. Wenger did have money to spend after 2013 hence why he bought Ozil, Alexis, Auba, Laca, Mustafi and Xhaka. All costly but only the 1st 3 names were good for us. The fact is he wasted money on Mustafi, Laca and Xhaka whereas, a better manager would've spent that money on better players. 6) I think Wenger stopped being a good manager post 2010ish tbh. He was still solid and could get us into the top 4 but his arrogance and nativity meant we got battered many times to the big clubs. His lack of tactical awareness really cost us. I think he once said that regardless of the opposition, Arsenal will always play the same way...
Theres a little quote from wenger at 20 secs: "the target of anything in life should be to do it so well that it becomes art." He either learned that in japan or thats the reason they wanted him to mannage the team in japan before arsenal cos thats exactly how japanese culture is
Miss that deep french voice in pressers. Love him so much. Like a great uncle I've never met. Such a lovely guy. Will never forgive some of the fans for the way they treated him.
imagine churning out talent constantly selling it at high value while repaying the debt for the new stadium year after year. people may have ball knowledge, but that's not the only knowledge that serves the chair under their arse on a matchday.
As an Arsenal fan for life this is the quote I want Arsene to remember, especially for what he did for Arsenal - Mother Teresa words - People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centred. Forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish ulterior motives. Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies. Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you. Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight. Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous. Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow. Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough. Give the best you've got anyway. You see, in the final analysis it is between you and God ; it was never between you and them anyway.
How was this Wengers toughest season? This was arguably our best of the emirates era. Title challenge FA Cup win Good football Our defence was actually strong too but yh, we collapsed in those big games away
I actually think the 2015/16 team was Wenger's best Emirates era team. Santi got injured and it derailed our season. Otherwise I'm convinced we would've won the league. However the current Arsenal team is better than any Emirates era Wenger team
@@arsenalogist4285 football is about winning, yes, but it's not the only thing that determines how good a team is. The Wigan team that beat City in the 2013 FA Cup final... were they a better team than City that season? Keeping in mind Wigan got relegated that year and City came 2nd
11/12 was the toughest season. Lost Fabregas, Nasri & Clichy during the summer of 2011. Had a terrible start to the PL season. Somehow managed to turn it around and finish 3rd. Van Persie top goalscorer with 30 league goals.
The guy built the stadium and had to meet debt requirements which gave him a shoestring budget. How he was able to keep getting in the top 4 without any additional funds was amazing. Fans didn’t appreciate what he built with little he had.
After 2005, Arsene became a business investment for us. Maintain Champions League status every season and keep the finances steady to pay for the new stadium. In years to come this will be seen as a masterstroke. It's a shame that the team could never really compete for the Prem or UCL titles during that period.
Arsenal were super lucky to finish 4th that year. Everton floundered right at the death, but that 3 nil at Goodison was both the best I've seen Everton play & the worst Arsenal had.
I remember it, Arsenal started well that season, with Ozil Who got to Arsenal after being in Real Madrid, wilshere, cazorla, gnagbry, walcott (irregular player to me in every season, but he did great job), chamberlain, kieran Gibbs, Rosicky, Giroud (same opinion like Theo), Ramsey Who was the maximum scorer that season for Arsenal, bacary Sagna, Mertezacker, between others, but after Arsenal got down a lot, and Man City won the title. Obviously that season they reached FA cup against Hull City with freekick of Cazorla.
The PREDEFINED METRIC for success is WINNING a TROPHY! The worst of Wenger days were his last 5 years in the club! Still, Arsenal won more TROPHIES with Arsene Wenger in the last 5 years of Wenger era than we have won in the First 5 years of Arteta! Let that sink in!
I guess we’ll never know why we never really spent the money. I’m sure he would have wanted to. Would he really say, no I’m fine with just these players? Then it begs to differ why Arteta has been given so much to spend. I did support Wenger up until almost the very end. I still respected him and everything he’d done for us, but you did feel like it was due time. The disappointment was becoming too much. There’s only 2 blemishes on his reign, for me. 2 things I’ll never understand or forgive him for (which isn’t many, when you consider everything good he did). And that is firstly selling RVP (and to a direct rival, whom played a big part in them winning the league immediately) and secondly not resigning Fabregas. A total club legend, still in his prime, who really wanted to come back. Cesc would have boosted morale so much. We also let him go to a direct rival, and he also then played a big role in them winning the league that very season. One of the biggest highlights for me tho was when we loaned Henry. I missed him the first time round, and that was an unfathomable reality that Wenger made happen.
@@BeforeThisNovember It’s was revealed a while ago that Wenger had to sell RVP to whoever made a big enough bid. RVP even said himself that he didn’t want to leave. The matter was out of Wenger’s hands.
1:40 Lack of delegation and being open to new ideas and concepts is what ultimately caused our decline in his latter years. Football’s biggest narcissist
I loved Wenger, I loved the ethos and him as a human. But looking back now, it felt like it was more of an old man who had nothing else in life than his job, seeing he took training everyday.... how would he ever get new ideas? I bet training was the same from 2000 - 2014, you can progress like that. Seeing the expectations under Mikel in comparison, I think Wenger was too stubborn and Naive near the end. He failed to change with the game and the club paid the price. Now loosing is unacceptable under almost any condition with Mikel and I love that.
What those short sighted, ungrateful fans seem to forget is that paying for a new stadium (which we needed) cost the club a lot of money which was then not available for transfers. We also hit a recession just as it was finished! Arsene Wenger is the best thing that ever happened to Arsenal football club and there have been legends in the past. Give the man the respect he deserves if you are a TRUE Arsenal fan !!
@@Goonerson1969 They won the PL on a shoestring budget which completely undermines your argument. What was Wenger doing when Leicester won it? That’s correct, relying on useless players and useless tactics.
@@dre22 oh that 'one off' fluke! and if its not a fluke why doesn't it happen more often, why do Leicester not have the illustrious history that Arsenal have (especially under Wenger) because they haven't got the finances. My point is Arsenal were going through a financial transitional period, Wenger couldn't get the players he wanted and pay back the loan hence the dip in general performances of the club. So do throw 'one off' flukes at me until you've got something constructive to say
That was the year wenger should have stood down. When he and Arsenal won their first Major honour (FA Cup) in 9 years. He should have gone out on a high. Instead he stayed on four years to long. I stated that at the time!!!
This is about the time that the embarrassing fan channels popped up isnt it. I feel for the sensible Arsenal fans who had their heads screwed on at this time
Arsenal fan forgot what he did for the club very quickly ? imagine he have financial backing like Man City Chelsea Man United that's my question to all the arsenal fan he have to sell all the best player because he can't compete with other clubs they pay their player high wages that's why arsen Didn't win any Premier League after 2004.
Sacked him for the Spanish Brendan Rodgers who has blown 800 million pounds and in 5 seasons has only won a puny FA cup when Wenger used to win those for fun. He wasn't backed and if he had been given the money Tapas Pulis has been given he'd have won the league again no question. Now Arsenal fans don't even realise that Arteta is the perfect Kroenke guy because they only care about Champions League qualification money and not actually winning anything. So Arteta will leave soon also and round and round we go.
Great comment - 100% agree, although comparing Arteta to Rodgers is a bit unfair on Brendan as at least his teams weren’t bad to watch. I can’t believe fans are satisfied watching super safe Mourinho-esque football under Arteta when we were treated to absolutely breathtaking football under Wenger. It’s sad that Wenger’s philosophy to entertain has been thrown down the toilet in favour of safe football (with no trophies).
@tournaline3448 it's like the 2022-2023 season has been written out of history for you ppl. That was some of the best football we ever played in the Emirates era. However, lessons had to be learn from that season because we were way too easy to counter. What's wrong with being defensively stronger? It's like you guys don't know what our history has been based on (George Graham days), we needed a bit of solidity back.
Terrible season, started well and crumbled after march, like in basically every season under Wenger after 2006. with one exception, that in this season at least there was some hope. At that time Wenger was finished, even Fa Cup did not save him.
And you rivals are pretending that you never insulted and laughed at him all over the internet for years. Arsenal fans weren't calling him a 'specialist in failure' and a p-do for playing youngsters.
the switch up is a madness. rival fans went from "arsene wenger we want you to stay" to "arsenal fans are a disgrace for kicking him out" in about 2 years. snakes
@dordevukman this is what they do. They throw rocks at our managers and players and then when they leave, they hide their hands and point at the Arsenal fans like the cowards they are 🙄🤦🏾♂️
Ya kidding right? We could see with this wenger team there was no progression. Scraping 4th spot each season. We wanted to be challenging for the title (not the FA cup). Now with artetas team we can see the strength of the team, the fight til the end for the league. Pulling numbers that are breaking our own records. It’s just a shame that we are up against a cheating dynasty in Man City. By far we can see this team are much more capable of the bigger trophies than the team in 13/14. Though I’ll never forget the memories of that FA cup win in 2014,2015,2017
@@hzskillz1721we are very close to winning - we had no standards back in 2014 it was just about 4th and finishing above spurs and we never had a real title race in the latter half of Mr wengers tenure 😅 we can actually defend now and compete with the best in Europe back then we were getting battered 10-1 on aggregate. I’m not sure what standards you think we had back then 😂
@@hzskillz1721 ahah first of all it was 15/16 2nd of all we finished 10 points off Leicester 😂 we are now finishing 2 points of Man City and pep 😅 you talk about standards and you tell me about us finishing behind Leicester City 🤦♂️ you’re lying to yourself thinking we had standards back then
I remember weeping tears of joy when Wenger won that FA cup in 2014. The first trophy I saw Arsenal win.
@@yao052 damn same here, was born the invincible year
@@hartzldnhaha me too still to this day the best football moment of my life
I almost had a heart attack when Hull were beating us in the semi finals it was something else
Same. It meant the world to me and still does
I can never forgive some of our fans for how they treated him
@@nardodelacueva7760 Tbh agreed but I have also come to accept that Arsene was also doing it to himself. Compare how Arteta managers to Arsene, Arteta has built a squad that can do a lot of things, it's not just his single ideal way of Football. Arsene was trying to play his beautiful football with at times sub-par players.
I'm sure he knew deep down but it was not obvious to us that he knew what got him there was the solid core he inherited. Arsene came into a top side with a great defence and revolutionised its attack. 15 years later it was like he forgot that.
@@jlirvingthen maybe you didn’t see Arsen wenger in 2003
@@sindanonegongo1199 Mmmm yes very relevant to the discussion 🙄 Way to contribute 👍 While we're at it let's talk about 97-98 because that's totally relevant to the discussion at hand.
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It was usually the GG disciples
Absolutely, totally agree with you
2014 was also the year that Arsenals 9 year trophy drought ended.
Arteta will replicate that
The drought?
Funny, cos nowadays top four really is like winning a trophy for many teams. Just ask Spurs, United, Villa etc.
Yes but it wasn't for Arsenal back then... the Premier League was not as competitive then
Because it all started with this clown calling it a trophy.
@@JB-px6ql3 teams got 80+ points in that season with Arsenal getting 79 points and all 20 teams got 30+ points. That’s about as competitive as it gets.
@@JB-px6qlCompare that to now, teams get top 4 with less than 70 points and relegated teams all get less than 30 points. Is that competitive compared to back then?
@JB-px6ql
You are wrong.
Arsene was never given a budget to go out and buy players. He had to sell to buy.
The net spend at the club over a 10 year period was something like +£2 million.
He was the only manager on earth that could get his team in the CL every season without spending.
Funnily enough, he lost his way when the club eventually gave him money to spend.
I totally echo Mr. Dein ...Arsene Wenger is not only a difficult act to follow but an impossible act to follow. His class and charisma is unmatchable.
The best compliment i can give Arsene is that there will never be another Arsene Wenger
Absolutely loved wenger, wish he had been given the chance to invest in the players he wanted after all the sacrifices he made of selling our best players for year's and having to find bargains.
To me, he has given his best every season..it wasn't greed or arrogance.. He knew that he didn't win major trophies for long so he'll keep doing what he can until he retired. I still have massive respect for wenger 🫡
Arsene Wegners is so awesome. He built the Invisibles for this ballclub. Glory glory to the Arsenal. Go on you Gunners!
he built the "invisibles" 😅😂😂😂
@@tarif23ah leave it out mate, you weren't meant to see that.
Invincibles*
Le Professeur - reason I love football and Arsenal.
WHAT A LEGEND.🌟.
Stayed 10 years too long. From 2007-2017
@@jeannotschumacher1024no other manager would have transferred us successfully from the old to the new stadium with the lack of transfer funds available whilst getting consistent top 4. Shame on the disrespect from any so called ‘fans’. The Wenger Out phase was disgraceful.
@@davideddy6024 that has to be proved. I don't see it this way.
@@davideddy6024 why? Totally wrong approach of the game. If you don't have enough money to compete footballwise take the defensif approach as it costs less. Easy to see but not for him. Sorry.. wenger hat no tactical nouse and that was permitted 10 years too long.
@@davideddy6024 he was a legend but a dinosaur man. you forgot we werent even getting top 4 in his last few seasons. we can appreciate that he was a legend for us but also that he had to go
Regardless of all the trophy matters, his teams were an absolute joy to watch. The reason you turn the TV on
He’ll be remembered long after the one who booed him and ask him to leave our club.
Alot of Gooners including myself call him our footballing father and he is
What a load bollox he achieved so much every year with the budget he had , I believe non of best managers in the world couldnt pull of what Wenger did for budget he had
I believe you’re talking out of your backside
This guys the best manager we’ve ever seen in the PL. period. Prove me wrong
Better/more attractive football then Fergie
Spent half the money yet double the fun
Didn’t need extra 4 minutes stoppage time whenever chasing a match
Revolutionised English football in terms of style & introduced science diet
Arsene’s only crime been French which’s unfortunate in this country is a disadvantage
nah board was being too selfish with spending I mean if they helped arsenal invest in good players at least sometime in 2007 - 2012, they should have won the premiership on one occasion, but the board kept giving him money to spend on meaningless players
The stadium ran way over budget. Arsenal is and has never been owned by individuals with hundreds of billions who freely pump into the club. Arsenal were broke
Him being french has nothing to do with 😂 stop thinking everybody is racist or has this ism or that ist or whatever phobia, FFS!!!!
Overated
Means nothing if u don’t win
2013-14 was 100x better than 2012-13. Proper top 4 battles, less lower team slip ups, our Arch Rivals were gone from the top. We had an actual trophy. Didn't lose at home to championship team. My personal life outside of watching football became much better than the poor struggle in the season before this.
Stoke and Aston Villa were lower team slip ups.
I miss this man as our manager I'm pleased with arteta but arsenal and arsene just belonged to each other
His biggest criticism was not spending big money on top players. But he proved all the critiques wrong as we have seen how much money United have spent on players since post Fergie and some of them were top name at the time and look where they are. Arsene has just shown that he prioritized in buying the "right player" . Plus now we know how difficult it is to get into the top four WHILE managing a team with financial debt and bearing impatient pundits who just want bragging rights (who really know nothing about management)
How is that a criticism if he never had big money to spend on big players. He was only able to post 2014 when he started buying Ozil, Sanchez, Lacazette, Aubameyang. Between 2005 and 2014 he was severely restricted due to the building costs of the Emirates which was still running through
Man Utd has won more than 4 trophies since Ferge , Arsenal?
@@sindanonegongo1199 Utd have finished below Arsenal in 8 out of 11 seasons since Ferguson retired
There was no City or Villa competing for top 4 back then. Once they joined the party, Wenger was exposed. Leicester winning the title exposed Wenger
Honestly this was such a great video. And now that some years have passed since Wenger left I have some thoughts.
1) The glory years were incredible but it's still shocking we didn't at least get to 1 more UCL final and possibly win it. (2004 should've been the year).
2) 2006-2013 weren't AWFUL years considering we had no money and kept losing our best players. We still got top 4 and were okay in the UCL (a few quarter finals and a semi in 2009). The only disgraceful moment during this time was losing the league cup final to Birmingham.
3) 2014 and 2015 were the best 2 years of The Emirates Era (Under Wenger) since 2007 and 2008. Winning those 2 Fa Cups B2B are still some of my favourite memories under Wenger. And the football we played plus some of the players we had were great.
4) 2016-2018 were a disgrace. People just brush over the fact we lost a league title to Leicester despite having several great players. Losing 4-0 Southampton, losing 3-2 United, 2-1 to Swansea at home were awful results. Also, the humiliation to Bayern in the UCL summed it up. We had some good players but as a team we weren't built to win.
5) People really need to stop rewriting history. Wenger did have money to spend after 2013 hence why he bought Ozil, Alexis, Auba, Laca, Mustafi and Xhaka. All costly but only the 1st 3 names were good for us. The fact is he wasted money on Mustafi, Laca and Xhaka whereas, a better manager would've spent that money on better players.
6) I think Wenger stopped being a good manager post 2010ish tbh. He was still solid and could get us into the top 4 but his arrogance and nativity meant we got battered many times to the big clubs. His lack of tactical awareness really cost us. I think he once said that regardless of the opposition, Arsenal will always play the same way...
Should've won the league that year.
A team who gets stuffed at Anfield, Emptyhad and the Bridge, didn't deserve to win the league
@@ChungLad United got stuffed by Newcastle and Southampton 5 and 6 respectively in 1997 and still won the title
@@moluther2826 they didn't have Ozil and a manager who seemed to enjoy bending over repeatedly
Theres a little quote from wenger at 20 secs: "the target of anything in life should be to do it so well that it becomes art." He either learned that in japan or thats the reason they wanted him to mannage the team in japan before arsenal cos thats exactly how japanese culture is
"thats exactly how japanese culture is" - Not true
Amazing quote. He is the Zen Master of football
Football fan here. Salute to this legend that is Arsene Wenger 🌹
Miss that deep french voice in pressers. Love him so much. Like a great uncle I've never met. Such a lovely guy. Will never forgive some of the fans for the way they treated him.
Arsene Wenger is an absolute Football royalty ✨
imagine churning out talent constantly selling it at high value while repaying the debt for the new stadium year after year. people may have ball knowledge, but that's not the only knowledge that serves the chair under their arse on a matchday.
Aaron Ramsey was unreal and was one of the best midfielders on the planet that season . Had he been fit, arsenal would've won the league
I miss him so much😭😭
Go and join him in retirement then
@@dre22 you make it sound like he's sitting around at home doing nothing. You do know he works for FIFA right?
@@arjadaa That’s exactly the point. He can’t cut it in football management and that’s why he has a cushy job at FIFA.
@@dre22 oh, sorry my bad, i didn't realize i was speaking to a moron! 🤣. I'm outta here 👍
@@arjadaa and the comment about missing him is foolishness. He was taking this club down
I want to see him in Emirates more often time's flying!
As an Arsenal fan for life this is the quote I want Arsene to remember, especially for what he did for Arsenal - Mother Teresa words -
People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centred.
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind,
people may accuse you of selfish ulterior motives.
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful,
you will win some false friends and some true enemies.
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank,
people may cheat you.
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building,
someone could destroy overnight.
Build anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness,
they may be jealous.
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today,
people will often forget tomorrow.
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have,
and it may never be enough.
Give the best you've got anyway.
You see,
in the final analysis it is between you and God ;
it was never between you and them anyway.
Boss made Top 4 consistently with an average squad was criticised by many but now those same fans are praying for Top 4 finish😂
How was this Wengers toughest season? This was arguably our best of the emirates era.
Title challenge
FA Cup win
Good football
Our defence was actually strong too but yh, we collapsed in those big games away
I actually think the 2015/16 team was Wenger's best Emirates era team. Santi got injured and it derailed our season. Otherwise I'm convinced we would've won the league.
However the current Arsenal team is better than any Emirates era Wenger team
@@Mart-B We didn't win anything that season, but I agree; good team. The whole midfield was injured that season
@@arsenalogist4285 some times good teams don't win anything and bad teams win, that's football!
@Mart-B But fundamentally footballs about winning. That's why the 2014 and 15 teams are the best Arsenal since invincibles
@@arsenalogist4285 football is about winning, yes, but it's not the only thing that determines how good a team is. The Wigan team that beat City in the 2013 FA Cup final... were they a better team than City that season? Keeping in mind Wigan got relegated that year and City came 2nd
God Bless The Great Arsene Wenger...
Love the way arteta plays but nothing like Wenger 😢😢
2014: The Best Year For Arsenal Fan TV !!! 🤑
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The toughest year was when we lost the UCL Final.
The younger generation don't know that. That lose in Paris is most painful moment of life as a fan. To this day still is!
@@abdiyusuf3544 that and the 50th game match fixing. lol
@@Zauchi the record would have been stop sbut the final was tough.
@@abdiyusuf3544 yeah the record would have stopped but saying it was a painful memory because Arsenal didn't lose it fairly.
@@Zauchi we fans every lose feels like it wasn't fsir. I know few games where everything was against us. Take like the last game at Etihad.
Whattta Legend!!!
I’ll never ever forgive or forget how some of our fans treated him.
I do miss Prime Wenger…
I'm not a young Arsenal fan
I miss *Le Prof A Wenger* & *Highbury football stadium* every match day 😭💯❤️
Arsene put us on the map respect that !!!
Upload the whole thing!! 🫶🏽🫶🏽
11/12 was the toughest season. Lost Fabregas, Nasri & Clichy during the summer of 2011. Had a terrible start to the PL season. Somehow managed to turn it around and finish 3rd. Van Persie top goalscorer with 30 league goals.
Crazy to think Greame Souness thinks Wenger is not a football man 😅
The guy built the stadium and had to meet debt requirements which gave him a shoestring budget. How he was able to keep getting in the top 4 without any additional funds was amazing. Fans didn’t appreciate what he built with little he had.
I cannot wait for Arsene to be there when we league
After 2005, Arsene became a business investment for us. Maintain Champions League status every season and keep the finances steady to pay for the new stadium. In years to come this will be seen as a masterstroke. It's a shame that the team could never really compete for the Prem or UCL titles during that period.
What a man arsenal fans you should be ashamed of yourself the way you hounded him out !!!!
Arsenal were super lucky to finish 4th that year. Everton floundered right at the death, but that 3 nil at Goodison was both the best I've seen Everton play & the worst Arsenal had.
Funny how there were 3 seasons after 2014 alone which were worse than 13/14. Losing 6-0 to Chelsea son or 10-2 to Bayern daughter.
He will always ❤️ be my Fave ! Arteta 2nd Graham 3rd
he a legend and created many legends. If he spent money on top players, we would have won many titles and even UEFA!!!
My favorite season as Arsenal fan
I remember it, Arsenal started well that season, with Ozil Who got to Arsenal after being in Real Madrid, wilshere, cazorla, gnagbry, walcott (irregular player to me in every season, but he did great job), chamberlain, kieran Gibbs, Rosicky, Giroud (same opinion like Theo), Ramsey Who was the maximum scorer that season for Arsenal, bacary Sagna, Mertezacker, between others, but after Arsenal got down a lot, and Man City won the title. Obviously that season they reached FA cup against Hull City with freekick of Cazorla.
The PREDEFINED METRIC for success is WINNING a TROPHY!
The worst of Wenger days were his last 5 years in the club!
Still, Arsenal won more TROPHIES with Arsene Wenger in the last 5 years of Wenger era than we have won in the First 5 years of Arteta!
Let that sink in!
I guess we’ll never know why we never really spent the money. I’m sure he would have wanted to. Would he really say, no I’m fine with just these players?
Then it begs to differ why Arteta has been given so much to spend.
I did support Wenger up until almost the very end. I still respected him and everything he’d done for us, but you did feel like it was due time. The disappointment was becoming too much.
There’s only 2 blemishes on his reign, for me. 2 things I’ll never understand or forgive him for (which isn’t many, when you consider everything good he did). And that is firstly selling RVP (and to a direct rival, whom played a big part in them winning the league immediately) and secondly not resigning Fabregas. A total club legend, still in his prime, who really wanted to come back. Cesc would have boosted morale so much.
We also let him go to a direct rival, and he also then played a big role in them winning the league that very season.
One of the biggest highlights for me tho was when we loaned Henry. I missed him the first time round, and that was an unfathomable reality that Wenger made happen.
@@BeforeThisNovember It’s was revealed a while ago that Wenger had to sell RVP to whoever made a big enough bid. RVP even said himself that he didn’t want to leave. The matter was out of Wenger’s hands.
Glad Arsenal won the fa cup in 2014
Arsene is the best coach in EPL of 21 century
ITS TIIIIME TO GO!
Same with your club bro. 🤣
1:40 Lack of delegation and being open to new ideas and concepts is what ultimately caused our decline in his latter years. Football’s biggest narcissist
Toughest game should be that Barcelona vs Arsenal final ...
6 years later, close but no trophy
Loved him, but..his hubris/dedication got in the way of the club moving forward..should have done the right thing and left years before he did.
As an American, I apologize for Budweiser being the principal sponsor of The FA Cup during those years
Arsene Wenger is the Rick Rubin of Football.
aftv did arsene wenger dirty, dont want to name names, but they know who they are.
I loved Wenger, I loved the ethos and him as a human. But looking back now, it felt like it was more of an old man who had nothing else in life than his job, seeing he took training everyday.... how would he ever get new ideas? I bet training was the same from 2000 - 2014, you can progress like that. Seeing the expectations under Mikel in comparison, I think Wenger was too stubborn and Naive near the end. He failed to change with the game and the club paid the price. Now loosing is unacceptable under almost any condition with Mikel and I love that.
The last good season by Arsene.
Mercy
Odd that this is released again . Everyone wants to talk about the Arsenal
is this a clip from a longer programme?
What those short sighted, ungrateful fans seem to forget is that paying for a new stadium (which we needed) cost the club a lot of money which was then not available for transfers. We also hit a recession just as it was finished! Arsene Wenger is the best thing that ever happened to Arsenal football club and there have been legends in the past.
Give the man the respect he deserves if you are a TRUE Arsenal fan !!
Leicester City winning the PL in 2015 completely destroys your argument
@@dre22 how so?
@@Goonerson1969 They won the PL on a shoestring budget which completely undermines your argument. What was Wenger doing when Leicester won it? That’s correct, relying on useless players and useless tactics.
@@dre22 oh that 'one off' fluke! and if its not a fluke why doesn't it happen more often, why do Leicester not have the illustrious history that Arsenal have (especially under Wenger) because they haven't got the finances. My point is Arsenal were going through a financial transitional period, Wenger couldn't get the players he wanted and pay back the loan hence the dip in general performances of the club. So do throw 'one off' flukes at me until you've got something constructive to say
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That was the year wenger should have stood down. When he and Arsenal won their first Major honour (FA Cup) in 9 years. He should have gone out on a high. Instead he stayed on four years to long. I stated that at the time!!!
Excellent manager, but he did leave a little bit too late.
U get rid of me one day dont worry...that smile 😢
This is about the time that the embarrassing fan channels popped up isnt it.
I feel for the sensible Arsenal fans who had their heads screwed on at this time
Selfish git stayed and destroyed our club before he left! Took Arteta 3/4 years to change Arsenal back to winning mentality and fighters
Agreed. He was running the club like an art gallery in the end.
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To bad he lost the winning mentality after 2008. Dinosaur
Arsenal fan forgot what he did for the club very quickly ? imagine he have financial backing like Man City Chelsea Man United that's my question to all the arsenal fan he have to sell all the best player because he can't compete with other clubs they pay their player high wages that's why arsen Didn't win any Premier League after 2004.
Leicester City winning the title in 2015 completely destroys this argument
I love Arsene, but it's a shame he didn't pack it in after the 2017 FA Cup final.
Sacked him for the Spanish Brendan Rodgers who has blown 800 million pounds and in 5 seasons has only won a puny FA cup when Wenger used to win those for fun. He wasn't backed and if he had been given the money Tapas Pulis has been given he'd have won the league again no question. Now Arsenal fans don't even realise that Arteta is the perfect Kroenke guy because they only care about Champions League qualification money and not actually winning anything. So Arteta will leave soon also and round and round we go.
@@johnh5660 if you're sad see a doctor or maybe lose some weight. Get a gf or a bf if you're so inclined.
Great comment - 100% agree, although comparing Arteta to Rodgers is a bit unfair on Brendan as at least his teams weren’t bad to watch. I can’t believe fans are satisfied watching super safe Mourinho-esque football under Arteta when we were treated to absolutely breathtaking football under Wenger. It’s sad that Wenger’s philosophy to entertain has been thrown down the toilet in favour of safe football (with no trophies).
@tournaline3448 it's like the 2022-2023 season has been written out of history for you ppl. That was some of the best football we ever played in the Emirates era. However, lessons had to be learn from that season because we were way too easy to counter. What's wrong with being defensively stronger? It's like you guys don't know what our history has been based on (George Graham days), we needed a bit of solidity back.
Winning that FA Cup final was a disaster, knowing that demented old fraud would have walked had we lost.
And after all that you are a specialist in failure! Arteta in 3 season has changed Arsenal mentality!
Ersene Wenger won the Golden Premier League 🏆
Arteta himself would tell you he'd love to accomplish what wenger did, muppet.
@@user-rh1iv7yp2cMaybe after 22years in charge. Arteta wins the title in the last 2years without Man City.
He was brilliant and then erm 😮 he wasnt
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So sad he was robbed of a CL trophy by cheating Refs & Barcelona
Terrible season, started well and crumbled after march, like in basically every season under Wenger after 2006. with one exception, that in this season at least there was some hope. At that time Wenger was finished, even Fa Cup did not save him.
Ian wright always been a sell out
IAN WRITE ACTING LIKE A RAT AS USUAL
Wenger OUT OUT
One thing Arsene will be remembered is his love of money.😢
He wasn't obsessed of winning trophy and didn't defend his title for once.😢
wrong
@@Medarazoe Did Arsenal win back to back premier league?🤔
Oh look, Arsenal fans in the comments pretending they didn't boo him and wave WENGER OUT placards for the last 3 or 4 years he was there.
And you rivals are pretending that you never insulted and laughed at him all over the internet for years. Arsenal fans weren't calling him a 'specialist in failure' and a p-do for playing youngsters.
the switch up is a madness. rival fans went from "arsene wenger we want you to stay" to "arsenal fans are a disgrace for kicking him out" in about 2 years. snakes
@dordevukman this is what they do. They throw rocks at our managers and players and then when they leave, they hide their hands and point at the Arsenal fans like the cowards they are 🙄🤦🏾♂️
What happened to this Arsenal fanbase with standards? Nowadays we are just happy with 2nd place under Arteta, sad times and still trophyless.
Ya kidding right? We could see with this wenger team there was no progression. Scraping 4th spot each season. We wanted to be challenging for the title (not the FA cup). Now with artetas team we can see the strength of the team, the fight til the end for the league. Pulling numbers that are breaking our own records. It’s just a shame that we are up against a cheating dynasty in Man City. By far we can see this team are much more capable of the bigger trophies than the team in 13/14. Though I’ll never forget the memories of that FA cup win in 2014,2015,2017
@@mrmisterman7608 We are still failing to win which is the thing U guys forgot, Wenger has more fa cups than Arteta since 2014
@@hzskillz1721we are very close to winning - we had no standards back in 2014 it was just about 4th and finishing above spurs and we never had a real title race in the latter half of Mr wengers tenure 😅 we can actually defend now and compete with the best in Europe back then we were getting battered 10-1 on aggregate. I’m not sure what standards you think we had back then 😂
@@Windup-merchant We had Vs Leicester in 2014 stop lying to fit your agenda
@@hzskillz1721 ahah first of all it was 15/16 2nd of all we finished 10 points off Leicester 😂 we are now finishing 2 points of Man City and pep 😅 you talk about standards and you tell me about us finishing behind Leicester City 🤦♂️ you’re lying to yourself thinking we had standards back then