Commander Overperformers: Cards that are Better than they Look in EDH (Part 4)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- These Commander cards are SHOCKINGLY good, and all play much better than they look! They're definitely overperformers, even if we already thought they were good!
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Cherries has been, from the start of the channel, completely open about being a gay person. If you are coming here to complain about pronouns you are in the wrong channel.
LITERALLY THIS, let cherries be their fabulous gay self. If they're happy, thats really all that matters here.
This channel is about magic. Why does anyone give a damn what someone prefers to be called? Let's discuss the real issue now. When were meathook and jetmir ever not considered incredibly strong? Lolol
@@greenmile25 because magic is a game played with other people, and these are the kinds of issues involving people. If you think there Is no relevance maybe you shouldn't play social games until you can learn respect for other people?
@@spudster8887 I admit I didn't watch the full video so if they brought it up then I missed it and I apologize. I mean no disrespect towards cherries. I was only referring to whoever is in the comments complaining about pronouns.
@@greenmile25 ohhhh, i'm so sorry, yeah i misinterpreted your comment initially, thats my bad :)
Not many people can pull out their deck and say "Yea this was a gift from Post Malone"... Love your guys videos, you totally deserve it!
It is really cool. Posty is a hell of a guy!
“There’s a lot of little things you can do with a 50/50” 🤣🤣🤣💙
Why would I want to be able to say that lol
@@jamesloder8652 I mean it’s pretty cool to show off a gift from anybody. Let alone a celebrity.
Any card someone has given to me always has more meaning when I play it.
I’ve played against Blind Obedience many times and it always puts in work in creature metas.
Making treasures enter tapped as been pretty strong as well
Blind obedience is that card where if I'm playing white in commander, I have to figure out how not to include it. Mana rocks and treasures and beaters coming in tapped makes me smile as a control focused player. Don't get to extort often, but thats just gravy
whoa these look way stronger than they look
Lol 😂 they are
Wow these strong looker than they way
Looking wow these way strongly they
Nailed it.
This comment was way more clever than it looked
Each extort is basically a Lightning Helix.
It’s true 😂
More like a Healing Salve plus 1 damage to each opponent... maybe a Magic Missile? Still good for 1 mana.
I was a Kardur naysayer until I built a deck around him. Easily one of the most fun decks I have. I built it around gifting my opponents tokens to kill each other with and it’s a blast.
I was in that boat until a friend played it me
Do you have a decklist?
Would love a decklist too. Been thinking about a token giving deck for a while now and couldn't find the right commander yet.
@@julianseidel7926 posted a link in another comment :)
@@makesquash thanks
I can't stress how much I truly do appreciate your daily content. Joe and Beezy thank you for always being so open to your fans, really does show how much you care about the magic community. Love ya fellas 🤙
Jetmirs whole crew all work pretty well in the same deck. Phabine is the one that suprised me the most.
Jetmir don’t mess around
There is a card... It's a giant, I think... 6/6, deathtouch, creates 2 2/2 zombies on etb and attack...Great card! Cannot remember the name, tho
Hate that guy!
I didn't get the Moxfield ad this time.
My next guess (for next episode) is 11:22.
Okay good to know!
Been watching you guys for a while now (cause you're great), a couple weeks ago I finally starting using moxfield and put all my decks on there (because of you), it's pretty great! :)
A bunch of these cards were just added to my wishlist on moxfield.
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I'm so glad you guys gave Jetmir the recognition he deserves. I made a deck with his as my commander on release, and its been shelved because my pod doesn't want to play at that level. He can just overwhelm and close out a game so quick.
One of the best voltron commanders was an uncommon from Kaldhiem, Breanore is a +2/0 pumper for each equip with an "equip cost 0 once each turn". The pump can make a single creature dam near hit for over 20 damage per attack. His CMC is 4 and he's not to to be taken lightly.
Now that I think about it, sarkhan's unsealing would go really well in my Henzie deck, because I'm constantly casting big creatures for cheap costs in that deck, and that's gonna really let me control the board state if I'm Mizzium mortar's every turn.
Escape to the wilds is actually such a hidden gem
Secret tech!
Wasn't this banned in standard after a while when it was in that rotation cause it gave us so juice? Escape from the woods is such a good card
You should give the Archfiend a run with Raffine. I can't tell you how insane it is to attack with a bunch of critters, giving a huge pump to one of them AND wiping your opponents critters before they even get a chance to block thanks to Raffine's Connive X.
archfiend of ifnir is great in Raffine, Scheming seer. kitjali sunwing is good too
Jetmir is great, he is one of those commanders that you either interact with or you just die on like turn 5 to 10 little beater creatures. But playing him can feel repetitive.
Jamir does what it does so well and consistently
Jetmir is cool but yeah he does sorta do the same thing over and over. Then again so does craterhoof
Welp, I'm probably making a Balmor deck now, thank you. I immediately figured if we add birgi it's infinite then if we add aggravated assault would be win more
The deck can pop off hard
I play Raffine, Scheming Seer, and let me tell you, that when the Nitpicking Nerds say it's a one sided boardwipe, they aren't lying! I've easily cleared giant creatures and huge armies by having that demon in play with my commander and swinging with 3 creatures. It's so ruthless!
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Kardur is the king of second place at my LGS. It is fun to watch everyone kill everyone else, but 1v1, it struggles.
Glad Kardur gets all the love. Being printed at uncommon was a mistake lol
Wizards finally printed him at mythic where he belongs, in the new beginner commander decks. I love kardur so much
My theory is that he was originally uncommon because he’s clearly designed for commander but in a standard set.
@@makesquash for sure for sure. Just glad to see him go where he belongs
Card was pretty damn good in limited as well!
I plan on getting his set.
@@azazelgrigori9244 same, almost just for that alt art 😍
Rakdos Chainer LOVES Archfiend of ifnir
Always great to see Amber! Thanks for the awesome vid as usual!
Thanks for the comment!!
Not sure if anyone else commented this, but haze of rage and storm-kiln artist gives you infinite (until you stop) treasures as it will pay for itself after 3 times cast, or with reductions (wizards of thay), you get infinite treasures at instant speed from the get go!
Ifnir, Jetmir and Unsealing have all terrorized me or my opponents recently, good picks.
Love your PFP
Escape to the Wilds always puts in so much work.
I'm always amazed at how crazy strong Make an Example is.
It looks like rubbish, but because I had a " make two piles" sub theme in a deck I went for it. Now it's quickly becoming some of my best removal.
[redacted other site] Hahaha what a recording! I'll check moxfield when architecturizing my next deckbox
I've been using escape from the wilds in my Rin and Seri deck for a long time. It's totally a care that people don't think much of but it does so well.
Kardur in Henzie does SO MUCH WORK every time
He does in my Henzie deck as well!
In my creature meta, he is essentially a teferi protection in my henzie deck.
haze of rage math: (with the 3 mana discount)
C= kreatures that are attacking
S= Storm count bevor the first haze
R= your amount of red
B= the damage you ad
on the first cast of haze you get
B(1)=C*(S+1)
two casts:
B(2)=C*(S+2)+B(1)=C*(S*2+1+2)
three casts:
B(3)=C*(S+3)+B(2)=C*(S*3+1+2+3)
with that we can conclude
B(R)=C*(S*R+SUM)
the SUM part can be calculated by the Gaussian Sum Formula:
SUM=R*(R+1)/2
put all togeter and you get
B=C*(R*(2*S+R+1)/2)
example:
you attack wit 5 creatures and have 3 red open and the stormcount is on 2
B=5*(3*(2*2+3+1)2)
B=5*12=60
Ps: if you need the amount of magecraft triggers use the SUM part.
What is a cast a creature after I cast haze once?
@@NitpickingNerds you can still use the formular. Now you have one creature more and a 2 higer storm count for all other creatures you can add the boost for one haze
Meathook Massacre also just wins you the game if you develop an infinite sacrifice combo after nuking the board state.
Dargo + Sarkhan's Unsealing = fun times
Blind obedience with old-magic rules would've been brutal... chef's kiss as someone would say...
To those young enough to not know this: in the old days when the earth was still warm and magic was a new game, a tapped artifact was basically disabled so tapping an opponent artifacts was a thing.
NOTICE: "Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, Witch. I was there when it was written" is not an acceptable response to this comment.
"Lim-Dul's Vault" into a "Escape to the wilds" is very OP... same goes with "Sensei's Divining Top"... top deck manipulation with a card that let's you play the top cards is always op.
Yay! The Meathook Massacre has been redeemed!!!
I'm thinking of including Haze of Rage into my Krenko deck to kill my opponents... so hear me out: Play 4 generic goblins, Play Mana Echoes, Play Skirk Prospector, Activate Krenko's ability and create 6 tokens, now you have basically 36C, sac the 6 tokens and the 4 generic goblins to the prospector, now you have 10R, Haze of Rage a 10 times (+55/0), Play Rupture and sac Krenko, each creature and player loses 58 life. GG. WP.
BTW, no one win with this combo, notice that Rupture deals damage to each player, not opponent. Just thought it would be funny to pull it off xD
BTW: the numbers are 1,3,6,10,15,21,28,36,45,55.
To complete the Blind obedience subject, Authorithy of the consul is super powerful too. Doesn't stop artifact but it gains you a ton of life without investing mana in it and it costs one less.
I find myself playing Authorithy more thand obedience because it just sits there doing is thing whithout investing anything else, and when played turn one, it usually gains 15 to 25 life over the course of a game for 1 mana, which is fantastic.
Obedience is great too, but a bit too mana intensive for me to really get a full effect out of it
I’d run both. More chance of dropping one earlier in the game, and both are low cmc. The extort starts to matter later in the game when you’ll have extra mana.
@@nickhughes8179 I usually run both too, except when my deck is not tune for that much "do little" enchantment, where i prefer to play authorithy in general !
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@3:50 hell yea I love blink182
Obedience doubles as a source of LG and stax in my Lathiel deck ... Ifnir is a BOMB in my Varina deck ... if I had the money I would put Massacre in my Shirei deck ... Jetmir is THE token commander, auto-win if he enters the Battlefield with 10+ creatures on the owner side, really hard to stop
Can confirm that Haze of Rage is dumb with Balmor. Especially when you get to double cast mana geyser because Gale, Waterdeep Prodigy is on the field lol
Been sitting with my Meathook Massacre as yall dissed it a bit at first. Now smiling ear to ear.
We can be wrong and we gladly admit it when we are
I'm glad they were able to retract their previous analysis of this card. I was able to see the potential of it at launch!
Can y’all make a video about the pros and cons of counter-spells vs spot removal. I’ve been playing magic for 10 years and still struggle with deciding between running counter spells or spot removal and i would love to hear you opinions ❤
maskwood nexus + allosaurus shepherd + Jetmir + a ton of tokens = GG... you just have to have a 1 mana protection spell on your hand to prevent removal on Jetmir, like Snakeskin Veil or Heroic intervention or silence or gods willing or alseid of life's bounty or any other card like that... if you have them all even better.
Archfiend does some serious work in my varina deck. It basically secures my win
Kardur in Grixis with a Deadeye Navigator= your opponents never get to attack you, as backup I got classic Disrupt Decorum + Archaeomancer and a blink/bounce effect. Come on Goad me Bruh! LOL :P
Yup, I have a Grixis blink deck and kardur is one of the cards that puts in the most work. The best part is when players start using removal against each others goaded creatures instead of taking out Kardur. I get to sit back and laugh to myself and then blink Kardur again lol.
Blind obedience secretly is a combo piece in my extra turns deck lol. Just keep looping extra turns and keep paying extort to kill everyone.
Jetmir is in my token deck. I love him, people always ask me why he isn't my commander, and it's because he is terrifying in the command zone, Phabine is way less scary, and I can just tooth and nail for like Jetmir and Elish Norn.
Archfiend puts in work in my Gitrog cEDH. I’m able to power out the frog and those same cards let me push him onto the table fast. Unusual in a cEDH list but all your dorks and bears are toast. Winota isn’t getting outta bed either.
Winona can finally rest
2:35 I might be dumb here cause I don't get how "every one extort is a six point life swing", can you please explain?
The moxfield ad at 6:51 is a hidden gem that nobody but me saw coming
What cube were you guys playing? I'm curious. I've been thinking about putting a commander cube together myself
That Archfiend of ifnir is in my Tinybones deck
Card is gross!
Blind Obedience is a Beast. Works so well in my Elenda.
What They/Them and He/Him is about in the intro? I do not understand? Is this a clarification?
Yah what is the deal. Not sure how that is relevant to Mtg content
It is relevant to introducing ourselves and takes up actually 0% of the runtime of the video
Yesss! Shoutout to my boy, The Mimeoplasm! Those two cards are so mad with it haha!
The number just get crazy dumb so fast
Would you guys recommend sarkhan unsealing in ur dragon tribal?
Run archfiend in nekusar. It's a work horse
Archfiend of Ifnir is so good that is an all star in Varinna zombie tribal deck. Is an honorary zombie XD
If you use lord of extinction late game with Ziatora the Incinerator as your commander, that's a lethal one shot to anyone at your endstep.
Everyone in my play group knows archfiend of ifnir is a kill on sight card. I have it in my discard zombies and Nekusar with wheels.
It's an instant board wipe if you have tortured existence and enough black mana
I keep on having to make new emails for all these Moxfield accounts I'm making thanks to the BEST Moxfield salesmen in the multiverse
i have a kardur doomscourge deck affectionately dubbed "second place" lol it can win but you tend to get at least second lol
I put Jetmir in my Rin & Siri deck as one of the 99, so it’s not quite as broken.😅
I said it before and I'll say it again! top 5/10 green overrun effects please 😁
Amber is the true overperformer of the video!
Mox Guess: 8:58
Amber always overperforms!
Jetmir has turn to my best deck easily wins most matches when I play with it.
I don't get why meathook massacre is in here. I don't think anyone can be surprised that a 50$ card is good
Yeah. It belongs more in a cards we were wrong about video.
wizards of thay attacking doesnt even mean its a one turn thing, you could just play a maze of ith or the ixalan one, attack, trigger, maze the original one to protect it, cast lots of spells, repeat next turn... now your opponents need to spend removal on it? why not put swiftfoot boots to protect it? now you have a repeatable engine of value.
Archfiend of Ifnir is so disgusting with Fluxuator.
What about a video on commander under performers that you still feel you have to play… or something like that
Oh archfiend of ifnir can be an absolute bitch, i helped my brother build a pretty high power raffine deck, and if you can't kill ifnir when it comes down, raffines connives will just constantly wipe your board. Also turns out, raffine honestly probably the strongest commander of the year, you don't realise how powerful she is until you play against her
Glad you admitted meathook was good finally. I disagreed from when you reviewed it in the set
Just noticed post Malone is the highest tier patreon what a fucking goat in the community
It’s my birthday!
Happy birthday!
Escape to the Wilds makes me want to build a budget Gruul deck...
Gruul is the best colors!
I have 2 gruul decks and they’re fun to play every now & then. Falorn and Tovolar
Funny because last month I slapped it in my Rienne 100% multicoloured deck as a "I need cards somehow" but sheesh does it do work! A very nice over performer.
Sorry if this has already been answered but does Nylea’s presence discount 5 off domain costs? I know it says every, just thought it was interesting at least.
It will give you full domain
9:57 nice
Is this video new or a reupload? I feel like i have seen this video already
I think meathook is not used because of the price
Jetmir is suppose to be Gatsby who show up late to his own party.so my play group calls him The Great Catsby. Also proud Joe identifying as non binary. They are so brave
Awww thanks for the kind words 🥰🥰🥰
I bought a bunch of shirts from into the am, theyre great thank you guys so much!
Wizard of Thay, instant speed Solve the Equation, Time Warp. Noice
Lord of Extinction in my Ziatora deck basically one shots someone.
Not even a mention of The Haze of Rage combo with Storm-Kiln Artist.. tsk tsk
Lord of Extinction in Ziatora is stupid good
I've never gotten ifnir to pop off in my tiny bones deck. its unfortunate.
It will some day and you will be happy
Please make a mono green commanders video
I'm dropping my daily guess down to 9:12. 10:35 was too late and 9/12 is my son's birthday so it's easy to remember
Nice try guy!
@@NitpickingNerds I'm still outperforming redacted other site!
@@doktarr damn right they don’t even have an ad!
Ok. Sarkhan's Unsealing is going into Dargo!
It’s SO good there!
@@NitpickingNerds Right!? You basically only need it, 10 Mana, and a sac outlet to win. Not a huge ask when the partner is Alena.
Man soo many different youtube channels are highlighting kardur all of a sudden
Belated 4:20 Moxfield day 8
An underrated card in my opinion is black sun zenith. It's a permanent stat reduction on all critters on the board and shuffles back in.
It’s an overcosted board wipe that gets around indestructible. Toxic Deluge is 100x better
It a card we doing go to often but could see it playing well
They're highest-contributing Patreon is called Austin Post - which is Post Malone's civil name. Could they be supported by Post Malone??
Finally got to my birthday video 🤣🤣
Happy Birthday!
Lol Kardur + caltrops + repercussions + death pits of rath
Meathook is kinda like if massacre girl had lifelink.
Kinda but not really lol 😝
you could just ritual haze of rage twice and thats the 7 without casting anything else.
Lord of extinction is like the best creature in my Ziatora deck
Malignus is slightly better in my experience but yes
They can both be good!
Moxfield ad at 10:66 👀
That’s not a real thing
Saw in half has over performed every time I've played it. It keeps surprising me.
I’m trying in henzie maybe it will make one of these lost