[BP Talk Sh**] Why We Left P-Pop: Former Trainees Tell All | BlogaPlay
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Former P-pop trainees, Rozel Basilio and Tony Migallon reveal why they gave up on their p-pop dreams.
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Sabi nga ng esbi, bago ka pumasok sa ganito dapat strong ka mentally at ready ka sa mga possible na mangyayari. Pero sure ako na 'yang mga pinagdaanan niyo ay hindi na madadaanan ng mga future trainee under 1Z.
Exactly po. Yan din ang naisip ko .
May trainees ba ang 1Z?
@@KetoBro-yg1hi On-going at GG sila.
thank you for sharing this, ate rozy and kuya tony. I've witnessed both of your growth as a performer, and just wanna let you know na you did the right thing. it's never wrong to choose yourself. the managements didn't see your worth to begin with. your time will surely come in God’s perfect timing.
as a ppop fan for years, I’m very proud of how far ppop has become and how much it grown. ppop will surely reach heights, padayon lang. PPOP RISE! ⋆ ˚｡⋆ ꪆৎ ˚
you are brave for choosing yourself over anything kahit ano pa sabihin ng iba, this shows courage & faith! Mas may para sa iyo na hindi ikakapahamak ng sarili mo. God bless girl!
stay strong! sana mag bigay kayo ng talk sa mga bata na nag aspire pasukin ang ppop para ma prepare sila mentally at emotionally.
I admire you two. I really do hope that the fandoms wars will stop because hinihila nyo mga artist ibang artist pababa para itaas lang ang hinahangaan na grupo. Every group serves different flavor. If you could just see how these artist strive hard para makamit where they are now, it's really hard and tedious as what the hosts experienced on their trainee days. Support lang po natin ang SB19, BINI, Alamat, G22, KAIA, and all the upcoming Ppop groups. Sana umabot yung point na "Lapag ang ipon kung PPop ang magtinda!". More power and hugs to both of you Rozel and Tony. Ppop on the rise!
Kung iisipin, sayang talaga yung tinrain mo, ang tagal e tapos andun ka na, nag quit ka pa. Pero what if, yung time na inextend mo ay yun din ang time na bumigay yung katawan mo? So di mo rin magagamit yung tinrain mo at baka yun din dahilan para di mo na magawa mga bagay na gusto mong gawin. In short, tama yang desisyon mong iprioritize yung health mo kasi katawan mo yan, mas alam mo ang limit nito at for sure lahat ng paghihirap mo i masusuklian din yan ng maganda kaya good luck sa yo, sainyo.
Salamat to Tony Migallon at Rozel Basilio. thanks for imparting a part of your horrible experiences of your trainings just to become a PPOP idol artist. Sana yung mga management naman ingatan nila talent nila. Management ba yan na maitururing kung walang pondo. Syempre yung mga talent nyo tao lang... Sayang kung sana hindi sila one sided lang. Salamat kay Rozel at Tony na hindi easy easy lang maging trainee as an idol sobrang hirap parang life and death pala yan. Eyeopener para sa mga next generation na nag nanais maging P-POP star Para sa dalawang artist na to pkease continue your passion Rozel at Tony. An artist will die as an artist yun sabi ni JLO. Totoo yun ako din as artist hindi matatangal sa dugo natin yan.
Ang gagaling! Proud of you, Rozel and Tony!
I am so sorry to hear sa experienced mo , between life and death pala bago sisikat. 😢😢😢❤❤❤
Thank you Rozel and Tony for sharing your experiences. Innate na tlaga ang pagiging talented ng mga pinoy. Let's support Ppop Rise! Great content 👏
Masama po ang pain killers kung regulary po ito tinetake. Possible po masira yung kidney ninyo. Good decision po yan. Siguro Diyos n po ang gumawa ng paraan para hindi po kyo matuloy. God bless po😋
the thing is, the Philippines actually did have an idol-like system before with Sexbomb Girls and it worked, we just didn't preserve it. the members narrated their intense training and discipline everyday. I think it's time for us to not rely on Koreans anymore, Alamat (Viva entertainment) were able to do it so let's keep inproving that system
Japan system sinunod nla sa viva
@@HanaJoyceCejuela anu ba system sa japan na sinunod ng viva? just curious
@@barangayrakenrol753 yung idol system naman ng Korea ay based din sa Japan, and difference lang ay mas extreme and abusive yung environment sa kpop, while in Japan, the companies dont overwork the artists and dont train them too long. ang sad lang ay ginaya din ng pinas yung abusive and strict environment ng korean training kahit di naman kailangan.
I never knew that sexbomb girls are considered "idols", they are more of dancers than idols as I remember, and most of their songs are novelty songs.
Di naman idol ang Sexbomb. Mga dancer sila. Hindi sila minamarket bilang sing and dance group. Dance crew sila. Parang Viva Hot Babes, Maskulado, atbp. Di nila pinagtutuunan ng pansin kung magaling ka kumanta.
If Pinoys will support our own talents, ang laki na seguro ng PPop ngayong.
Hope un ibang company maglabas ng group na di kulang sa training,kumbaga pahinugin muna nila bago ilabas 😊
Pero ang reality, pag may umaangat may mga nanghihila pababa
May crab mentally ill Kasi Ang mga iBang Pinoy
@@erikapadua1824True. Lumalaki kasi ulo ng fans pag umaangat lang ng konti idols nila, ibababa agad yung nasa taas na.
Tapos meron ding fans na ayaw malamangan ang idols nila kaya hinihila pababa ang mga sumisikat na iba.
When the truth is, all we ever wanted is PPop to rise. Hindi ba pwedeng magkaisa na lang at wag magpataasan ng ihi? After all, iisa lang naman ang hangarin natin.
@@marizara386 yuck P-POP
Dapat yung management mismo ang maging caring sa mga trainees, dahil sila ang magiging foundation ng group just like how bang shi hyuk believed in bts where no one believes in them, and tatang robin who defended sb19 from doubters when they were starting, i understand your story, mahirap talaga tumagal sa toxic environment. Hope for the best for both of you
walang perfect agency sabi nga nila at yun nangyari sa sb19 that's makes them stronger . i guess yun sinasabi mong toxic environment sa kanila nagbigay sa knila ng motivation to continue
Tetsuya Kuroko quotes
I am a shadow
"The stronger the light, the stronger the shadow. I will be your shadow and help you to surpass the Generation of Miracles"
"I'm not someone who can stand in front of others. I’m a shadow, and shadows are meant to support the light."
"Even if I'm just a shadow, if the light is strong, the shadow becomes darker. And that's why I can stand out even as a shadow."
"Even if I’m a shadow, I’ll keep supporting the light. That’s the only way I know how to play."
"No matter how much I’m overshadowed by others, I’m still here. And I’ll make sure to leave my mark as a shadow."
"I may not have the talent to shine like the rest of you, but as long as I'm your shadow, I’ll never stop working to help you reach the top."
"A shadow doesn’t exist without light, but I’ll make sure that light becomes even brighter because of me."
"As a shadow, I don’t need to stand out. But I’ll make sure that you do, and together, we’ll be unstoppable."
"I don’t need to be in the spotlight. As long as I can guide the light to victory, I’ve done my job.
"The shadow supports the light, but it also shapes it. I’m here to make sure that light shines in the right direction."
Real talk,kung maganda ka kahit walang talent Basta ma training ka yong skills mo or ability pasok ka Peru kung pangit walang walang talaga yong personality Hindi ka pasok kahit very talented kapa....so wag nyo sayagin Oras nyo dahil alam Ng agency na Hindi kayo kakagatin ng masa...period real talk that's the reality...ayaw mo man at SA gusto mo...para lang Yan sa magaganda that's showbizzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
mali..freddie aguilar, april boy, 90's band esp. Eheads charice, nora aunor, Sarah G. ( nakita ko sya malapitan nung nag start sya common pinoy looks) ben &ben too many.. meron silang tinatawag na "mass appeal"
@@missywishy-wb3neiba na panahon ngayun kesa dati kase ngayun pati yung mga international artist masasabi nating ka kompetensya na rin Ng local celeb dahil sa internet Sarah g is Filipina beauty yung mukha but her posture the height yun din lamang nya sa ibang local performer and she can sing and dance very well
@@missywishy-wb3ne freedie, april boy and eheads - songs nila nagpasikat sa knila... Charice Nora at Sarah contest sila nagdiscovery at development ng mga agency. But reality is kahit dati pa if may looks ka, mas aangat ka majority yan. 2-10% lang nakakalusot ng may talent lang ang puhunan if marunong ka pang gumawa ng kanta mas maganda
Sa panahon ngayon, hindi na. Sumikat ang SB19 kahit na average lang ang mukha nila.
@@aristagne correct the talent is more important
Kaya nga yung mga idol, destiny din nila yun na kung kaya ng katawan nila.
Proud of you both😢
Kailangan talaga discipline ng ibang Pinoy.Kasi un iba pwede na kahit pucho-pucho hahah..I mean if they’re talented need din ng haba ng Pasensya 😊..Goodluck sa mga bagong Ppop group jan..
ito po ba yung sa YGIG?
base sa google, under ShowBT Entertainment,. not sure if nag Debut ung dapat grp nya
Yes
@@patriciaanndelatorre42 if under ShowBT PH baka isa sya sa dapat na members (leader) ng KAIA
@@bemmj9325 ngayun ba saan na under ang KAIA ?
@@barangayrakenrol753 from what I know under Sony Music PH na sila. Umalis na ata sila sa ShowBT PH
Pag kukuha ng ppop idol sana isa alang alang di lang talent pati itsura aminin na natin ang laki ng impact ng looks sa entertainment industry lalo na internationally kahit mediocre lang talent pede na basta may looks di porke talented lang yun na
Totoo naman kung ako din aspiring to become an idol artist uunahin ko health ko over something else paano ka magiging idol kung ang health mo ay at STAKE diba? Proud ako dito kay Rozel at Tony alam ng Diyos gaano kahirap pinagdaanan nila.
They want a system like what they do in Korea pero the reality is, ung mga nirereklamo nila is the system in Korea. That is what they do in Korea.
anong companies?
ano po managements nila?
sang group sila nag train?
un lalaki yun first auditioning nya sa dream maker ng ABS-CBN with MDL Korea tapos nakadiscover ulit sya sa iba na
si Tony po is supposed to be sa Aster under Asterisk Entertainment
Ay Hindi sya nakapasok SA aster?@@kyrasj
San cla ng train?
SBT ba siya?
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Kaya i don't really support kpop e, napakatoxic culture... Sana di ganyan nanyayare sa mga ibang sikat na ppop groups...overall well being p din tlga dapat priority, wag iencourage at isupport mga ganyan sistema
San management nila?
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virtual hugs & God bless❤
Thank you for watching!
grabe naman 😢
Anong ppop group yung girl host?
Ygig
@@codeentertainment2197Alam KO Hindi sya SA YGIG .. Alam Ko SA former DIONE Meron kase Ibang name UN DIONE before LUNA (NAME NUN GROUP) UN kanta pre debut SONG Is LA LUNA check nyo po un MV
Alam KO former DIONE member sya.. LA LUNA MV UN PRE DEBUT SONG AT LUNA UN NAME NUN GROUP.
@@LuckBuyNiAlvinnd po
ygig 😢
This is a Kpop problem not Ppop especially the fact that they are training under korean company. And that argument that "we have no system". No sht we do. The only problem with Ppop or Filipino entertainment is the fact that we're not as rich as korea. Our entertainment is not backed by our government. In fact our government is against the media (see ABS shut down). As much as artists want to have flashy, hd quality mv with huge sets they couldn't because of the budget limit. Imagine if ABS didn't shutdown right now that Bini is on the rise. They could've even more free to do all advertisement they want.
Gobyerno pa rin ang sisi? Not local support?
Have you analyzed the first Halyu waves? O naka-base ka lang sa current?
Walang government support ang mga Korean entertainment industry from the 90s to early 2000's. Nagbigay lang sila ng support nung pumatok na ang Korean Entertainment Industry.
Kaya pumatok ang Korean Entertainment Industry ay dahil muna sa local support, tapos na-market muna within Asia, tapos na-conquer nila ang other regions.
Regarding BINI:
Never nakapag-sustain ang ABS-CBN at STAR Magic ng mga P-POP and OPM groups.
Magaling lang sila mag-hype at mag-market sa local scene... never in an international setting.
Nasa track record na nila un... Look at BINI as an example. Kung hindi pa nag-hit ung kanta nila with "Patropiko", do you think they would continue them? Ang ganda na ng simula nila with "Da Coconut" at halos kasabayan sila ng SB19 sa pag-debut but they never sustained it. Marami pang ibang grupo from years ago pa na ganun na ganun...
Why stick to an old school management system? Walang mangyayari sa OPM and P-POP kung same style at same system lang sa pag-manage ng grupo.
i think skill wise and talent pa rin look at sb19 zero to becoming something organic ang pag usbong nila without sb 19 paving the wave will ppop will rise i dont think so dahil may naunang ppop sa sb19 pero waley! ng nalagay ang sb19 sa billboard us doon na!
@@saturn2fireThe reason for the Hallyu Wave in the early 2000s was because of the govt policies implemented to strengthen their entertainment industry. It was not the other way around. This was a subject in a news documentary. Here's a link to one of the these mini documentary: ruclips.net/video/CmkULRHGa40/видео.htmlsi=o-eO-BNXpKwVNlQR
With regards to Bini and BGYO, it was the first of it's kind, based on the documentary they made themselves. So they started training in their teens with the end goal of competing internationally as pop groups. Which makes sense why their debut was an English song. The link for this statement can be found in one of the videos of the One Dream reality show they had.
@@jaustmike9001
Wrong on the Hallyu Wave.
Both the video and articles (kahit si Wikipedia) stated that the government started to enact and provide budget to their entertainment industry in the late 90s because of the initial rise in popularity of Korean popular culture within nearby Asian countries. Meaning, locally supported by Koreans which they marketed first with nearby Asian regions. This is the first generation of the Korean Wave, also called Hallyu 1.0. The official first generation began in China during the late 1990s, and consisted primarily of the spread of Korean television programming in Chinese markets. We all know that there were programs that were popular way before that in non-chinese markets in Asia. Etong time na to BEFORE politics legislated to give the budget to the entertaniment industry as part of "cultural promotion", walang support ang mga programs na to. Once legislated, the already existing productions or past completed programs were re-marketed with the help of the Korean government through that budget.
Just think about it... even before the government supported the entertainment industry, the Korean entertainment programs (music, tv, films) were already gaining popularity LOCALLY first and then to the nearby asian regions (namely ASEAN, HK, TW and JP). Lalo silang nag-boom nung napansin ng government nila na nagboom sa mga chinese markets kaya binigyan nila ng budget to promote and market in CHINA.
So, why can't we do the same even before asking government help? That's what SB19 did and still currently doing. BINI and ALAMAT are starting to go that route as well WITHOUT government support pa.
So bakit sisisihin ang government?
@@jaustmike9001
So what if BINI and BGYO were the first of its kind?
Does it give STAR MUSIC (ABS-CBN) an excuse NOT to promote and market BINI and BGYO? So what if their debut was an English song? Does it give STAR MUSIC (ABS-CBN) an excuse to snub their artists?
Naging hit ang "Da Coconut" pero nung di pumatok ung "Born to Win", di na masyadong nabigyan ng exposure, marketing at budget support ung BINI. Saka na lang ulit sila napansin ng management nung pumatok ung "Pantropiko". Kung di pumatok un, palagay mo ba gagastusan pa ng ABS-CBN ang BINI? Kung matagal ka nang BLOOMS, dapat alam mo yan.
Ang problema kasi sa mga big and major entertainment management companies eh kelangan pumatok muna ang mga artists bago nila suportahan.
Pansinin mo... VIVA and GMA are NOT that different with STAR MUSIC. SAME old management style, SAME marketing strategies, SAME mindset.
ALAMAT went through the same.
Malas si rozel HAHAHAHAAHAHAH
not really... na fall short lang siya.
🤸🤸 Ang tatangkad pala ang BINI, si Nicholette (Colet) at Mickah, 5'9" Maloi and Gwen 5'8" pinaka mababa si Sheena "5'7", Stacey 5'11" , Joanna & Aiah 5'10"
wdym? they're all around 5'4-5'6. except maloi who's 5'3. at bakit nilalapag mo ’yan dito. anong connect sa content?
also, nicolette*, mikha*, & jhoanna*
😂😂😂 mali yata info mo
I only support K-POP & J-POP ❤💗
so ba’t ka andito?
@@julijolukas paki mo ba. Nag idolized pa kayo ng P-POP
@@tiffanycljuliaac5766 ’wag kang umiyak. nagtatanong lang eh
kaya hirap umasenso ang pinas e, dahil sa mga katulad niyong nilamon na ng colonial mentality. feeling superior at entitled enough, e wala namang pinagkaiba ppop at kpop mo bukod sa budget at support system. baka gusto mong lapagan kita ng mga downside ng kpop. proud na proud pang ipangalandakan sa comment section ng isang ppop content na kpop at jpop “lang” sinusuportahan. so insensitive. mind you, ’yang mga sinasamba mong koreano e unggoy lang ang tingin sa mga pinoy na kagaya mo. truth hurts? why don't you learn east asia’s culture and how they treat sea’ns as much as you learn it's pop culture?
@@julijolukas wala akong paki sa tanong mo