Getting Your First Art Job - Asking Pros
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
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It’s one thing to have art be your hobby, but it’s another to make it a full-time gig. These 20 artists who work in the entertainment industry reveal how they jump started their careers. Hopefully you can use these inspiring stories as a way to carve your own path.
Asking Pros Season 1:
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Drawing Advice for Students - Asking Pros: • Drawing Advice for Stu...
Best Drawing Exercises - Asking Pros: • Best Drawing Exercises...
Daily Routine of Successful Artists - Asking Pros: • Daily Routine of Succe...
6 Pro Artists Sketch From Imagination: • 6 Pro Artists Sketch F...
Asking Pros Season 2:
Struggling with Motivation as an Artist - Asking Pros: • Struggling with Motiva...
What’s the Hardest Thing about Being a Pro? - Asking Pros: • What’s the Hardest Thi...
Tips on Breaking into the Art Industry - Asking Pros: • Tips on Breaking into ...
Best Advice for New Artists - Asking Pros: • Best Advice for New Ar...
Thumbnail Art by Sean Galloway
Thank you to all the artists that participated:
Pascal Campion: / pascalcampionart
Bobby Chiu: / digitalbobert
Sean Galloway: / seangallowayart
T.J. Geisen: / geist.rock.art
Erik Gist: www.erikgist.com/
Sanford Greene: / sanfordgreene
Brian Haberlin: experienceanoma...
Peter Han: / peterhanstyle
Cutter Hays: www.cutterhays....
Eliza Ivanova: / eleeza
Karl Kopinski: / karlkopinski
Colin Lawler: www.colinlawler...
Vanessa Lemen: vanessalemenart...
Sean Andrew Murray: seanandrewmurra...
Lucio Parrillo: / lucio_parrillo_art
Stephen Silver: www.silvertoon...
William Stout: www.williamsto...
Philip Tan: / philiptanart
Marshall Vandruff: www.marshallart...
Chrissie Zullo: / chrissiezullo
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Credits
Interviewer | Producer - Stan Prokopenko (www.stanprokope...)
Production Assistance - Sean Ramsey (www.peoplewhodr...), Kaitlin Jensma ( / gimmenoise )
Camera Operator - Stephen Clark (www.peppermint...)
Editing - Stephen Clark
Artists Interviewed:
Philip Tan ( / philiptanart , Sean Galloway ( / seangallowayart , T.J. Geisen ( / geist.rock.art , Sanford Greene ( / sanfordgreene , Cutter Hays (www.cutterhays...., Marshall Vandruff (www.marshallart..., Erik Gist (www.erikgist.com/), Brian Haberlin (experienceanoma..., Peter Han ( / peterhanstyle , Stephen Silver (www.silvertoon..., Bobby Chiu ( / digitalbobert , Karl Kopinski ( / karlkopinski , William Stout (www.williamsto..., Lucio Parrillo ( / lucio_parrillo_art , Eliza Ivanova ( / eleeza , Vanessa Lemen (vanessalemenart..., Sean Andrew Murray (seanandrewmurra..., Pascal Campion ( / pascalcampionart , Colin Lawler (www.colinlawler..., Chrissie Zullo ( / chrissiezullo )
Music Used with Permission
Intro - The Freak Fandango Orchestra
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Additional music by Epidemic Sound
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If you have an interesting story about making it as an artist let us know! Your story could help other artists out.
I can't say I have a career, the first jobs I ever did was a couple of commission Portraits for a highschool classmate, and the economy make it hard to charge higher that I would had like and my experience drawing people was very low and very awful (by my standards), and the only other jobs I did was for a store that make bed sheets with famous characters, but it was only a try period that lasted 2 weeks and I didn't make it, and it was like 3 years ago. So yeah, my career hasn't started and with my arm and hand problems I don't see it starting soon
On that note I think the best super power for an artist will be healing factor like Wolverine and send ypur conscious back to your younger self
What app is free for professional artists?
@@numbersletters2920 Adobe Fresco
@@carlosroo5460 what abode fresco?keep going tell me which one?
My story: After art college, I didn't know what the hell to do with my professional life and life in general, ground zero at that point. I always liked drawing characters and concept art so I tried applying to the few game developer studios here in Romania, but at that time, there weren't many. I got rejected, I was bummed out about it and for for two years, the only bit of work I did was a few projects on freelance websites but those sucked because of the whole website system you had to go through just to have a chance to land a job. It was an auction type deal, artists were making really cheap bids to increase their chances of getting the project, the website cuts were big and overall a bad place to start out and work, at least for me. Most projects were really boring too so for two years the insignificant amount of work that I did (logos and other graphic design stuff), I didn't enjoy, my drawing was getting rusty and I was in a ditch spending way too much time with video games and my whole world upside down because I couldn't sustain myself financially. Winter came, I wasn't feeling good about the whole situation and I decided I was going to try and make just a few digital pieces, something fun to work on and to upload on one or two portfolio websites. So for just a few weeks, I kept drawing on my wacom tablet to scrape off some rust and I tried to put together a small portfolio with recent work. It didn't attract much attention because the work was mediocre and with almost 0 followers, I wasn't going anywhere, but a few weeks after I uploaded my portfolio (I think it was on CGSociety and on one romanian art website) I received an email from a local game studio in my city and they were interested in a job interview. and after six years, I'm still working there on fun stuff. I would have never found out about that studio because it was very small and it was part of a larger company that focused on software development. That game department was tiny and more of an experiment within the parent company and they also weren't advertising hiring positions. So in conclusion, if I wouldn't have spent those 3 weeks on drawing that winter, the guy that was recruiting wouldn't have found me on the website when he was filtering for local artists, and I wouldn't have had that breakthrough in the gaming industry. So no matter what chances you think you have and regardless of how much you think your work sucks, post it somewhere because you never know who might see it. Sorry for the long post but that's my tale.
Wow im so glad your hardwork paid off. Amazing story this inspired me
This is very close to my experience after going to college for graphic design. Worked in sign shops which drained the essence from my soul and I stopped producing illustrations and graphics outside work. I eventually gave up a career in graphic design after 5+ years and decided to get into illustration/story telling. I can't say my story has quite the same plot because i've basically hit reset on all my skills, (digital illustration, life drawing, character design, etc.) BUT I am working on a story that I eventually want to turn into an animated mini-series. My advice would be: It really is never too late. I'm 30 and just realized what I'm passionate about with art, it's all a matter of how much time you're willing to invest. This is something I wish I learned much earlier in life.
I'm going through exactly the same thing as a recent illustration graduate. I'm even experiencing that two years of no work or financial stability right now.
It's tough out there but it's nice to hear these kinds of stories so I can get my butt back into gear and start improving my portfolio.
That is such an amazing and interesting story! Greetings from the same country! 😄
@@joe_illos9648 , same here, bud, though I havent worked a day as an artist yet)) "Same", I mean, we didnt learn stuff we might need at the graphic design course. So now I am expelled from there, but I have no regrets: I had my time in there and now I am ready to have a firm grip on my portfolio and work with it
After 13 years working in finance, finally got my first job as a 2D artist. I took a huge pay cut but felt so blessed to just get my foot in the door to pursue my passion in art. It all started when I saw your video on how to draw a head. Thank you Proko.
Congrats on the 2d artist job gino :D
@@mariadanielalavia8877 Thank you 😀 ❤ 💙 💜
I love seeing Karl kopinski's bits, he's so lovely
Karl alwyas makes me smile he is just a awsome person
As a novice artist with big dreams, I think I need to go to such con and talk to these people, it seems to be a really enriching expierience.
I actually did that this year at my local comic con, all of the artists were actually really excited to talk about art, and they wrote some advice and looked at my sketches.
That's so true, i think everyone should go through something like this. It would be such a nice experience
I like seeing different artists talk and seeing their artwork, gets me in the mood to draw
I'm graduating next year and I'm really scared. 😭 The animation industry in my country is non-existent, but at the same time I don't want to live abroad forever.
Maybe work & live abroad long enough to learn the ins & outs of the industry, then start-up an animation studio back in your country? Best of luck.
I'd suggest to look online and see if you can work long distances. You might have some lucks.
So many talented artists! I’d be so freaking overwhelmed by that skillset and creativity. Sometimes I wonder if I just poured all that time and energy committing to my art how much better I would have gotten.
Great video!
Talent doesn't exist all you see there is intense hard work and smart work. What you can call talent is how each artist see the world and details.
At 18:45 He lifted my spirits up, I know I have a while to go before my traditional art gets better because I want to do concept art one day. My main focus now is 3D animation, I'm looking now before I graduate and I'm nervous because I hope I have a chance at getting into a studio. I see so many unique styles and takes on classic and original characters that it inspires me. I'll start doing digital commissions soon, it just that negative voice in the back of my mind that tells I don't have a chance. But we all gotta start somewhere. Thanks for these informative videos, podcast, and anatomy lessons.
Im 17 and planning to apply to bachelor of animation in Sheridan college this year though i dont quite much like animation compare to game design but i guess that could be my starting point... I hope one day i can work for companies like ubisoft or blizzard. Im dying preparing the portfolio for college and videos like these inspire me to keep going so... Thanks proko.
Hey, how are you doing nowadays?
important questions were asked that needs to be answered...
DOG VS FISH?
In the beginning of the video. The French bulldog was so cute!❤
Throughout all these videos, aside from the fantastic advice, one of my other goals is to find someone who looks at me like that girl looks at Peter Han.
I was told to pick the brains of those doing the jobs you seek. Thanks much, exactly what i was looking for. I've done many forms of art but none have made more money than the time it took to do them. Things like Culinary arts, Silver smithing, Dyeing craft yarn, singing have all been more of a self satisfying form of art. Advancing to a profitable level "like a pyramid, start wide and focus up to a point", is very useful advice. To train as a sport to build a foundation. I've recently changed priorities in life and have really just begun a new campaign towards profitable art. I plan on building a wide base of drawing styles while still focusing on themes i personally enjoy. Working the basics like a marathon, not a sprint. Thanks again for the wide variety of pro's opinions and back stories.
Damn, Sean mentioning LedHeavy made me tear up a little... so many good times on that forum, with him and Skottie and all the other artists around that time...
Awesome video Proko! This has just made my day and help me get started on my art career :)
thanks for this video, i was inspired to draw. i'll post the video process on the group
thanks for these amazing videos proko!!
It’s nice to hear different artists’ stories
My cartoon crush was Paige from Tron Uprising!! Because of Her, I wish Disney would bring back the show!! 😅
Thankyou for posting this proko. It is really inspiring
Facts
These Asking Pros videos are the best!
Love the Kopinski advise especially!
So many people are helped through your channel
Instant transmission would be an amazing art power!
Karl 'Wise' Kopinski, this guy's great ! And insightful video overall !
How would you go into another area of art when the industry you're in is a sinking ship? I read ads for art jobs and they want a certain amount of years of experience in a specific industry. It is also difficult to network as an introvert.
Sean Galloway's art is amazing
Stan got that artists posture
3:15 I think kage bunshin no jutsu would be awesome too!
The first guy is a great speaker. He might have been on TEDtalk, I don't know, but he could.
Love these videos
should you include things like thumbnails and sketches in a portfolio or should you stick to final pieces as a character designer? also how can you add some diversity in case you might be fit for another position?
I just love Marshall so much lol
The gold vs. Fish guy might be a borderlands character
That fish guy knew what he was DOING, amazing
Why does Superman look like a shy anime boy in the thumbnail
I did not expect to see so many of the incredible artists I follow on ArtStation and Instagram in this video! It’s so interesting to hear their stories and it honestly fills me with hope for the future. People who say you can’t make a living as an artist have only payed attention to stereotypes and do not know the truth about this incredible industry. If you want it enough, you will get there!
Skillshare was nice, but I liked udemy more. Udemy offers quality settings on their videos while skillshare doesn't. Skillshare was unusuable for me.
Hopefully you're aware that none of the people who advertise skillshare actually use it, its just a kickback. If skillshare was actually good you'd be hearing it through word of mouth and not mouthpiece paid advertising.
@@dungofrungus7659 I figured it was a kickback, but I just wanted to show whoever saw this to know, so they don't waste the time.
I personally used it for a storyboard course, and mostly for video editing, budgeting and mostly things non drawing/painting related. I did love it for a while, honestly
that t rex @3:39 lol nice
I´m just a new artist here so, i was wondering if someone has some advice for me to join in this world, about how to find groups of artists to improve myself or where start making little jobs.
Thanks.
Hey, don't know if my little experience is of any use for you, but the most important thing, of course, is getting you to be known and to know other people. Doesn't matter your skill level, just post your work right away. Doesn't matter where, choose the one social media you feel more confortable with (twitter, insta, tumblr, fb, etc.) but go with just one or two accounts, don't need to overwhelm yourself trying to keep multiple accounts. The reason for this is so it'd be more easy and confortable for you to keep in touch with people. Just do what you like and other people will start noticing. If it's original work, go ahead, if it's fanart, is fine too. But do it for the sake of your own work, not to please other people. Art is mostly about social interaction these days, getting involved and interacting with the community. This is, in my opinion, the best aproach to get involved with the art world for a begginer. Think of it as a way to engage with other people, rather than a cold business project. I personaly was afraid of posting my work because... no confidence, but once I started posting some pieces here and there, I started getting a small number of followers and even did a couple commisions! Just don't be afraid of other people and of getting exposure, and don't get discouraged if you're not getting noticed at first, it takes time and dedication to form something meaningful.
@@meowmrrrp Thanks so much for your advice, really thanks so much.
I was posting my work online for a while, but i didn´t grow, i was thinking i did something wrong but now i know it´s normal, i will keep doing it! Again Thanks so much for your time
I love this video, very inspiring, its my dream to be an ilustrator but im not a kid anymore im working everyday in a bar, is really hard to me to start, begin something that change everything. I feel like my dream is a candle melting
"begin something that change everything" - it does sound like a big thing, and that is scary. No need to "change everything". Maybe try baby steps - 30 mins/an hour drawing every day just for pleasure. Don't attach too much pressure to it. Best wishes!
Awesome video!
I liked this mainly for the fish guy and Daredevil
I'm on the point of giving up. I tried to be a freelancer, but every time the person gives up on the project or I'm not selected, if isn't something as freelancer, then there's the requirement of using programs for digital art, for me it sucks because I only draw on paper.
Keep at it and explore fam! Don't give up until you're sure you're not motivated anymore
Don't give up! Keep it up and sombody that loves your stuff will hire you. I wish you the best of luck in your future career
If you refuse to adapt the world will move without you, I get you like paper, but you cant deny the usefullness of digital, plus they are a bit awkard on feel but if you got the fundamentals it really isnt that hard to adapt to that medium, alternatively there are some great prgrams to scan your paper works and make them look like they where digital all along.
@@olgierdvoneverec4135 I dislike digital art, I'm not saying that is bad, but I really don't like it. My tools are nib pen/fountain pen, mechanical pencil, ballpoint pen and sakura pigma micron.
Well, before you officially give up (and I mean really give up, because I think every artist has “given up” at some point only to come back and push through; Karla Ortiz has talked a lot about this), you really need to do a few things.... 1) Honestly assess your work. Get outside feedback and critique. If you’re work isn’t great yet, keep working at it until it is (and keep going even after). 2) If you think you’re art is dope already, then maybe the problem is your networking and marketing strategies. You’re probably going to have to work on commissions for the the vast amount of your income (selling prints may be a small side hustle to that in the beginning). Figure out who would buy your work and/or hire you for a commission and where they are. Be honest. Start small and build. The more you put yourself out there, the more opportunity you’ll have to catch a lucky break. 3) Be okay with the fact that you’re probably not going to work for a commercial studio or company, because 99% of the opportunities require you to work in digital...at least until you have built up a name for yourself (or your work is undeniably awesome), which will take years. Breathe. Be okay with that, because this is what you love doing.
For some inspiration, check out Allen Williams and Jono Dry. Keep pushing, my friend. 💪
Would love to see Karl Kopinski on your podcast someday. He has some pretty good insights and just an amazing artist aswell
Also dreamy blue eyes!
Never would have thought I'd see the guy behind some of those CN games lol
I love peterhan♥️♥️♥️
Yea 🙌 he's cool 👍
I wonder what my story will be i just finished high school and i am not taking college going to self study, I wonder if how far can I go. Please encourage me senpai!!!!!
hows it been?
Omg.... just remembered my cartoon crush 1 of them....cheetara
Nice work 😉 😃
What if you don’t or haven’t found the ‘style’ most artists seem to have? Do you need one? Can you just copy a style and then create your own? Or is it just really bad here in Vegas?
Hi ....plz show as some storybording camp..... like this camp. ...
Where are some good places to meet professional artists outside of conventions and online?
Gracias
7:46 "sailor mars was a bit one": haha ya this video is real
I'm not yet making any many with art as an adult but as a child I used to draw tattoos with sparkly pens on my classmates and was paid for it until my teacher found out who's fault it was that whole class looked like fairy-prisoners 😆
Awesome 👍 Karl is great .
14:12 I think we've discovered Tarantino's long lost twin
I am 40 and I am just about to start ..are my too late? Or is there hope??
I actually got my first gig when I was 17 and it didn't pay much buh I also had to redo the illustration because the client didn't like them and so i was sent back to drawing board .haha
my only problem is..what I should draw to apply to a studio ?
1:57 MARSHALLLLL
Does anyone know a good digital method of art? I’m pretty good at traditional, but don’t know ANYTHING about digital.
Do I need a PC, a Wacom tablet, an IPad, or something else?
is there a website or a way I can get more info on when and where the next cons for an artist are like some of the smaller ones? someone, please help I've googled it but it's not clear
I think i might be crazy, but i know the girl with glasses from the beginning! she is an artist? from OfflineTV? NO IM NOT CONFUSING HER WITH LILYPICHU
Hahaha Hi! That's me! I go by Amber Aki Huang on Instagram! :) Hahah I post my face on my stories so that's probably why you recognize me!
@@sakurihikari thank you so much!!
Please invite karl kopinski on your podcast if you can ! It would be amazing.
I have been so scared to apply for the industry of art i want art as my life job but for so long ive been afraid. I want to draw as my job.
If you do it, the worst that can happen is you get a "no" or "not at this time" and you can try again later.
But if you don't apply, you're guaranteeing an eternal "no". Go for it and maybe you get notes on what you could work on learning!
you should have asked the fishman's inspirations and art stories
is it wrong that I keep pausing video to try to figure out the loomis head structure of the artists featured? :-D :-|
First like LOVE YA MAN
I think that Goat vs Fish guy had a point
Te amo prokitoooo
Man, Sandford's answer was based this time around.
Dog vs fish guy had me laughing so hard idk why
is there no HD version of this?
RUclips's processing the footage. It should have 4k options soon.
@@seanramsey Cool thanks! just noticed its here!
where can I go to get cartoonists who can do an anime style 5 minutes or less animation? Anyone knows?
12:02 potato
What's the age limit?
Whatever I do, wherever i try i end up getting declined after finishing the test. I have 7 tests behind me, and objectively I find my work, a bit above mediocre.
I think I am cursed.
3:36 is that Cooper?
Top
*THE* *FISH*
Marshall, did you start drawing furries too?
7:06 At this frame you can see exactly that asian guy who always younger and better in art.
What bother me is, don't you all people became pro long ago? When internet wasn't a big thing and not created a millions of wanna be artists, and industry wasn't full of creative people? It's great that you succeed back then, but what about now? How to get a job in modern times, while competing with million others, and more importantly with you guys? And don't tell me that art isn't a competition, it is, because people need money, and you really need to go really hard if you don't want to ruin your future career with furry porn.
Lmao same question
Hey guys - I'm 50 and I'm struggling, alright - Freelancing, self-taught...
Peter Han, you used to be fucking ripped, where'd that go?
Seeing people mill about pre-pandemic without masks or safe distance is... surreal.
Love the videos.. It's hard to watch them all though with the fluctuating audio :(
Ix nay on pirate Photoshops o_o
more of Karl please
No stories yet...maybe someday
Only 46 comments?
I started drawing wholesome drawings until i decided to take a big step and draw some creepy and unnerving stuff.
That dude said Ren and Stimpy way too fast
👨🎨🏅📜
I stareted by doing furry porn commissions. Huge market and it goes easly for around 300$ per piece.
Tips on How to drawing art a habit :)
Skill share only takes credit cards so i am forced to use torrents.