And if Ashley ignores all the previous red flags, she better not ignore the giant red flag that he would be an awful father because..he already is one. If he already treats his kids (that have been proved to be his KIDS, not sperm donor babies) then he would treat ANY of his kids that way. What happened if Ashley and him had kids and then broke up? He’d be singing the same song to the next lady
Makes you consider what sort of parent he would in the future so easy for him to leave 3 children behind he would do it again if circumstances meant he didn’t want to be a parent anymore.
The way friends are always making excuse to people because "he's a great guy" Maybe TO YOU! Because someone is nice to you doesn't mean they aren't horrible to others
Tyler being a “deadbeat dad” was never in question. His character and willingness to lie unprovoked is. He had EVERY opportunity to be open about already having children, especially during the times they were discussing having children in the future. There is no defending Tyler in this situation.
Everything Tyler’s friend is saying is irrelevant. Even if all of this was the case, Tyler still lied. Lied all through the pods. Lied when they got out the pods. The man is a liar and no one should start a relationship on that.
3:56 so he’s got photos with “best dad” on his damn t shirt and photos and videos with the kids and then LIED and said those kids don’t even know what he looks like… but he’s NOT the villain? 👀👀
Well.. Bri’s ex wife already exposed Her and Tyler. Allegedly, they both were creeping around behind the ex wife back . Tyler did not donate it. He had seggs with Bri with the twins and the son.. no donor. When the ex wife left the scene, allegedly Tyler and Bri started seeing each other. That explains why he was so involved because the parents were involved.🤷🏽♀️according to the ex wife
Yes the only thing that makes sense is he was messing with his friend. She got pregnant & they used the donor thing as a cover. When his friends wife found out she divorced. His fiance only found out abt the kids when they turned one & broke it off. Good luck Ash.
@@ljones9841well if she had a wife she is gay! Bi people exist! Do I look gay? That's nonsense. You can't establish they didn't had anything because "she looks gay".
Mónica said that she's been cheated many times, and then she still chose Stephen who early on in their conversation admitted that he had cheated before. I know that people can change, but if I have cheated on every past relationship and someone is upfront about cheating, I don't give him the time.
So, let me see if I got this straight. Stephen is a victim, Monica did some terrible things, and what we saw is a made-up character version of him. It wasn't a big deal. He wasn't sober when he sent those messages. It's show biz, baby. So, basically, he did the classic swopping around victim & abuser thing, minimized his actions, distancing himself from his actions, defending, deflecting, blaming, and making it all about him. No accountability. He is just feeling sorry for himself and trying to get that redemption arc. Yeah, good luck with that buddy.
He should of proudly revealed his life upfront as a proud father, responsible and honest. THEN let her make her decision on if she wanted to be a part of that life. BOOM!
Tyler hates Ashley. He doesn’t like her in my opinion at all. He’s there for the money. When she told him that they were still going to get married, he didn’t even reach over that table and give her a kiss. I wish Ashley knew her worth because she wouldn’t be bothered with this man if she did.
Factssss! I agree 💯 with you and I have been saying this for the longest! His body language towards her is so off to me. They jumped out of a whole plane, and that man didn’t even give her a big hug or a passionate kiss or embrace… like, what?!! I need Ashley to have more discernment than this. Let’s know when a man truly likes/loves and is genuinely into us?!! 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
My heart broke for her when she was trying on that dress and she said “I always felt I was undeserving…” and then started crying. I was like omg this is fucking horrible and these producers are demons
So if the producers keep finding these cheating psycopaths without doing a rent a center background checks and the cast isnt allowed to talk about it? First they take away food, overload with drinks and put the women at risk. Then they come and expose these women to disease and humiliation afterwards? And i thought i picked the worst men. This is like my past dating logs and i wouldnt wish that on anyone.
Tyler has no incentive to clear this up. Bri needs to talk while people are listening because 7 days after the reunion, no one will care anymore. Ashley already said she's a ride or die, so you have to pray for her and move on.
Why do we have to pray for her. She is a grown woman making her own decision about her life. Her father said she is a good decision maker. If she chooses to be Tyler that’s her choice.
2:57 it’s not his place to put things out, and he’s going to be vague? Sir why are you talking at all? It’s giving let me get some clout. Tyler is the lord of lies and that’s it.
Tyler wasn’t made to be the villain, he by no means has a villain edit. He plays victim, his REAL reality is what makes him a “villain”, not the show edit. You can tell his friends don’t hold him accountable smh 😒
Tyler lied to Ashley Got her to "fall in love" with his lies. Proposed. Had sex with her. Lied some more... by sprinkling in a few half truths. Convinced her to maintain the engagement... with lies outstanding. She will (sadly) likely marry this man. ... but viewers can't want better for Ashley than she wants for herself. Tyler showed her who he is, Ashley decided not to believe him. Good luck, girl!
Right, but if you notice Stephen is slyly throwing Monica under the bus, by stating “ I don’t want to divulge anything she’s done or said out of respect for her.” He repeated this in one way or another several times throughout his lengthy statements. I guess he wanted to shrewdly insinuate she did something as well, in order to minimize his behavior. He’s disgusting.
This is a mess where one party is saying one thing and the other is saying something else. Regardless, Tyler lied and did not disclose the full impact of his situation to Ashley. My prayers go out to Ashley, the kids and all those impacted by this. LIB needs to do better with casting, background checks, health checks and getting references.
'the friend' shouldnt even be the one speaking up on this issue. it should be Tyler who needs to clear things up. Did he not think things would come to light when the show aired? He completely denied his kids, there's no coming back from that.
Stephen didn't learn shit in the past year. Can't say you don't want to air out someone else's dirty laundry out of respect while implying there's plenty to be shared, atp let us hear it so we can make our own judgement if she was bad enough to justify cheating. The dog thing is awful, but him pinning the comment and posting a long ass paragraph abt it on his page is really not gonna help lmao, I really doubt there were that many people that came to that conclusion naturally that he had to publicly address it. I'm no psychologist but the way he talks about things reminds me of my own mania.
Yeah. I wonder how much coaching and money he's getting for this. It sounds like he's reading a script. That's the dude who was at the fitting balding w the mullet
Tyler lied and he didn’t have to. His children know his face but he chose not to claim them. He could have shared pictures of the twins but he didn’t. He made a choice and it was the wrong one.
Therapy should definitely be completed. The hope should be that you learn the tools to necessary to be able to deal with the effects of trauma later. I’m in school to be a psychologist. So I guess I have to believe that
14:53 but if she spoke about her trauma why when he told you he was a recent cheater you didn’t immediately see that was a red flag? That should’ve been your sign to RUN! But instead you defended him and comforted him
Do we know that Jake apologized, cause they didn't give proof of that. At least w the first child it has to be a donor situation cause the lady was married & the other mom said it was and said that Tye wasn't involved, even though Tye testified differently in court. Tye has shown that he's a liar, but I still will like for all this to make some kind of sense.
Tyler should have never gave sperm without legal documentation. However, he lied to Ashley indicating that the kids have never seen him. You lie once, you will lie all the time.
Bry is fishy as well. What she mean she did not ask for this? No one would know who she was if she did not come out with it blasting him. The whole issue with him supplanting the wife. It’s messy as hell and I do want to hear his side. I will say he lost me with the kids not knowing what he looked like. Crazy
Agreed. I think she's honestly not a good person. She violated her marriage. She and Tyler together explained the paternity in court to strip right from the legal parent her ex wife. That would only benefit her. Not him then to turn and put him on child support once you get rid of the legal other mom. Bri is self serving as well as Tyler
@@LexAddison of course I read. About a novel a week. You talk SO slowly in these videos though. I get it. Journalism school tells you "talk at about half the speed you normally would talk at. Then talk even talk even slower than THAT." It's just kind of maddening. Also, I shouldn't have to point out to you that redundancy of asking someone you suspect of being illiterate if they can read in a WRITTEN comment. What did you think I was going to say? "No. I cannot read. Except I was able to read your question asking me if I am able to read." I've just found out lately a lot of content creators on RUclips are speaking really slowly and the jaded part of me things that they're doing this to pad out the length of their videos. They take an hour to get through...18 minutes of content. And they do it. By adding. So. Many. Needless. Pauses. Between. Each. Word.
These days families and friends will cover for the usual suspects in community D, abandoned children and basic players of women's hearts, money and reputations, USUALLY not knowing what actually happened. 👀
Mónica needs to stop. She found the message and she read it. Nothing wrong with it. He was cheating. The fact you snooped or not is irrelevant. Stop making him make you feel bad for it.
I understood that a lot of this had a lot to with the BM and when her marriage fell apart she relied on Tyler. And employed him to help her strip legal rights from her wife.
But nevertheless Tyler is responsible for all the bad decisions he made, including denying his kids in front of Ashley. He is more a Perpetrator than a victim.
So did Ashley marry him or what? She had enough information to make an informed decision to marry a man she has know 30 days or not. Tyler going to Tyler but what is Ashley doing?
She didn’t have all of the information at the time of the wedding. I can’t imagine such a young g woman marrying a man with child support for 3 very young children. That’s definitely going to place limitations on their lives. 😮
I think Stephens and Tyler won’t show up to the reunion. It doesn’t matter tho. Nick and Vanessa SUCK at addressing serious issues on the reunion. They never ask the right questions. I HOPE I’m wrong
Dude can’t break up with her? Cheating requires deception. Monica could be an actual DEMON; cheating is always a reflection of bad character for the cheater.
There’s no justification to cheating, if the relationship is trash then be mature enough to communicate the problem. This is an L take. A grown adult is responsible for their own actions no one else is responsible for their actions but themselves. Saying stuff like this removes the autonomy and accountability of the person that cheated. Wrong is wrong, point blank.
The fact still remains that Tyler told Ashley that those poor children did not know his face. Which as we all well know that is categorically false.
Also she said he didn’t sperm donor he and her had sex
Patently false. Blatantly false. Unequivocally false. And every other kind of false!
We don’t see Ashley’s face when she asks the question. It could be editing. He obviously lied by omission about the situation, though.
These poor children are going to see him reduce them to basically nothing as far as he is concerned. He's level of dishonesty is horrifying.
They were reduces to donated sperms
And if Ashley ignores all the previous red flags, she better not ignore the giant red flag that he would be an awful father because..he already is one. If he already treats his kids (that have been proved to be his KIDS, not sperm donor babies) then he would treat ANY of his kids that way. What happened if Ashley and him had kids and then broke up? He’d be singing the same song to the next lady
@@mary5305jyessss!
Makes you consider what sort of parent he would in the future so easy for him to leave 3 children behind he would do it again if circumstances meant he didn’t want to be a parent anymore.
@@mary5305j I think I saw somewhere that he went for custody and he fought the other mum for it. Why go through all of that if you'd abandon them?
The way friends are always making excuse to people because "he's a great guy" Maybe TO YOU! Because someone is nice to you doesn't mean they aren't horrible to others
Right! Because Diddy had friends too😂.
Friends are usually biased to begin with, that’s why they’re friends
Tyler didn't make a "mistake" he made a "CHOICE!"
Tyler being a “deadbeat dad” was never in question. His character and willingness to lie unprovoked is. He had EVERY opportunity to be open about already having children, especially during the times they were discussing having children in the future. There is no defending Tyler in this situation.
"You lied about your involvement, you lied about your children... " **Kendrick voice**
Everything Tyler’s friend is saying is irrelevant. Even if all of this was the case, Tyler still lied. Lied all through the pods. Lied when they got out the pods. The man is a liar and no one should start a relationship on that.
Exactly pretending that you're being helpful to a gay couple. By being a sperm donor is a total lie.
3:56 so he’s got photos with “best dad” on his damn t shirt and photos and videos with the kids and then LIED and said those kids don’t even know what he looks like… but he’s NOT the villain? 👀👀
This is what playing in your face looks like.
The kids are blind
Where is the photo???
His ability to Lie 😨 Run girl ruuuunn!
@@spice4life67😂😂
Well.. Bri’s ex wife already exposed Her and Tyler. Allegedly, they both were creeping around behind the ex wife back . Tyler did not donate it. He had seggs with Bri with the twins and the son.. no donor. When the ex wife left the scene, allegedly Tyler and Bri started seeing each other. That explains why he was so involved because the parents were involved.🤷🏽♀️according to the ex wife
So Tyler is living a lie...and Ashley is just like my man my man. So we have a bunch a clout chaser wanting to be influencers
Ex wife also said he provided samples for two months. So it could be either or both.
Bri looks gay! I really can’t imagine them being in a relationship.
Yes the only thing that makes sense is he was messing with his friend. She got pregnant & they used the donor thing as a cover. When his friends wife found out she divorced. His fiance only found out abt the kids when they turned one & broke it off.
Good luck Ash.
@@ljones9841well if she had a wife she is gay! Bi people exist! Do I look gay? That's nonsense. You can't establish they didn't had anything because "she looks gay".
Mónica said that she's been cheated many times, and then she still chose Stephen who early on in their conversation admitted that he had cheated before. I know that people can change, but if I have cheated on every past relationship and someone is upfront about cheating, I don't give him the time.
So, let me see if I got this straight. Stephen is a victim, Monica did some terrible things, and what we saw is a made-up character version of him. It wasn't a big deal. He wasn't sober when he sent those messages. It's show biz, baby. So, basically, he did the classic swopping around victim & abuser thing, minimized his actions, distancing himself from his actions, defending, deflecting, blaming, and making it all about him. No accountability. He is just feeling sorry for himself and trying to get that redemption arc. Yeah, good luck with that buddy.
He should of proudly revealed his life upfront as a proud father, responsible and honest. THEN let her make her decision on if she wanted to be a part of that life. BOOM!
I’m sorry there’s no way monica blew this out of proportion.
Tyler hates Ashley. He doesn’t like her in my opinion at all. He’s there for the money. When she told him that they were still going to get married, he didn’t even reach over that table and give her a kiss. I wish Ashley knew her worth because she wouldn’t be bothered with this man if she did.
Factssss! I agree 💯 with you and I have been saying this for the longest! His body language towards her is so off to me. They jumped out of a whole plane, and that man didn’t even give her a big hug or a passionate kiss or embrace… like, what?!! I need Ashley to have more discernment than this. Let’s know when a man truly likes/loves and is genuinely into us?!! 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
My heart broke for her when she was trying on that dress and she said “I always felt I was undeserving…” and then started crying. I was like omg this is fucking horrible and these producers are demons
So if the producers keep finding these cheating psycopaths without doing a rent a center background checks and the cast isnt allowed to talk about it? First they take away food, overload with drinks and put the women at risk. Then they come and expose these women to disease and humiliation afterwards? And i thought i picked the worst men. This is like my past dating logs and i wouldnt wish that on anyone.
Not the rent a center😂😂😂
Thanks for putting this all in one place
Thank you for canvassing the Internet for the tea so I don't have to!
Tyler has no incentive to clear this up. Bri needs to talk while people are listening because 7 days after the reunion, no one will care anymore. Ashley already said she's a ride or die, so you have to pray for her and move on.
Why do we have to pray for her. She is a grown woman making her own decision about her life. Her father said she is a good decision maker. If she chooses to be Tyler that’s her choice.
@@IsisBluit’s good to pray for everyone. We all need help. Jesus loves you. Have a great day.
Tyler and this Bri are TRASH!! The absolute clusterf#@% they have WILLFULLY brought these children into. They should BOTH be ashamed.
2:57 it’s not his place to put things out, and he’s going to be vague? Sir why are you talking at all? It’s giving let me get some clout. Tyler is the lord of lies and that’s it.
ok Tyler friend but why he said these kids dont know what he looks like when he has photos with those kids??
Disgusting!
@@misschains oh he ain’t gonna answer that 😒
Netflix slacked up catching these fights and reveals. Like where was the crew when everything popped off, we only saw the aftermath
The best friend needs to shut up, who is he for us to believe him
“Oluwa Stephen Babatunde” lol that was hilarious to me 😂
Tyler wasn’t made to be the villain, he by no means has a villain edit. He plays victim, his REAL reality is what makes him a “villain”, not the show edit. You can tell his friends don’t hold him accountable smh 😒
Tyler lied to Ashley
Got her to "fall in love" with his lies.
Proposed.
Had sex with her.
Lied some more... by sprinkling in a few half truths.
Convinced her to maintain the engagement... with lies outstanding.
She will (sadly) likely marry this man.
... but viewers can't want better for Ashley than she wants for herself.
Tyler showed her who he is, Ashley decided not to believe him.
Good luck, girl!
He is the problem. She took what he said at face value. He’s wrong. She’s naive. End of story.
Right, but if you notice Stephen is slyly throwing Monica under the bus, by stating “ I don’t want to divulge anything she’s done or said out of respect for her.” He repeated this in one way or another several times throughout his lengthy statements. I guess he wanted to shrewdly insinuate she did something as well, in order to minimize his behavior. He’s disgusting.
Ashley could probably be granted an annulment on the grounds of fraud. Because Tyler is legally on the hook for child support.
And I love a good tea roundup, so keep making these please!
This is a mess where one party is saying one thing and the other is saying something else. Regardless, Tyler lied and did not disclose the full impact of his situation to Ashley. My prayers go out to Ashley, the kids and all those impacted by this. LIB needs to do better with casting, background checks, health checks and getting references.
'the friend' shouldnt even be the one speaking up on this issue. it should be Tyler who needs to clear things up. Did he not think things would come to light when the show aired? He completely denied his kids, there's no coming back from that.
@@paolagodinez8615 and for that reason is why I think these are paid actors.
Moral of the story: don’t think you can hide your personal life when you go on a public platform
Stephen didn't learn shit in the past year. Can't say you don't want to air out someone else's dirty laundry out of respect while implying there's plenty to be shared, atp let us hear it so we can make our own judgement if she was bad enough to justify cheating. The dog thing is awful, but him pinning the comment and posting a long ass paragraph abt it on his page is really not gonna help lmao, I really doubt there were that many people that came to that conclusion naturally that he had to publicly address it. I'm no psychologist but the way he talks about things reminds me of my own mania.
Yeah. I wonder how much coaching and money he's getting for this. It sounds like he's reading a script. That's the dude who was at the fitting balding w the mullet
Tyler lied and he didn’t have to. His children know his face but he chose not to claim them. He could have shared pictures of the twins but he didn’t. He made a choice and it was the wrong one.
Therapy should definitely be completed. The hope should be that you learn the tools to necessary to be able to deal with the effects of trauma later. I’m in school to be a psychologist. So I guess I have to believe that
Oh. So the kids DID know what he looked like. 😐 I'm so baffled at Tyler. Truly perplexed. Did he think people weren't going to know??? Smh.
I still don’t believe we have it all & now we add the ex-wife in 🤦🏽♀️
14:53 but if she spoke about her trauma why when he told you he was a recent cheater you didn’t immediately see that was a red flag? That should’ve been your sign to RUN! But instead you defended him and comforted him
Do we know that Jake apologized, cause they didn't give proof of that. At least w the first child it has to be a donor situation cause the lady was married & the other mom said it was and said that Tye wasn't involved, even though Tye testified differently in court. Tye has shown that he's a liar, but I still will like for all this to make some kind of sense.
This is so ridiculous... people have nothing better to do
Who is the useless clout chaser in the first video?
Tyler should have never gave sperm without legal documentation. However, he lied to Ashley indicating that the kids have never seen him. You lie once, you will lie all the time.
Bry is fishy as well. What she mean she did not ask for this? No one would know who she was if she did not come out with it blasting him. The whole issue with him supplanting the wife. It’s messy as hell and I do want to hear his side. I will say he lost me with the kids not knowing what he looked like. Crazy
Agreed. I think she's honestly not a good person. She violated her marriage. She and Tyler together explained the paternity in court to strip right from the legal parent her ex wife. That would only benefit her. Not him then to turn and put him on child support once you get rid of the legal other mom. Bri is self serving as well as Tyler
@@PackPrepChat They deserve each other, so to say.
Excellent point!
@@SydneyLovePJBJ she didn’t say anything first. HER MOTHER came out and spoke on it. Then she spoke to clear the rumors.
He disowned his children publicly and pretended he did not have a relationship with them...gross
Some constructive feedback I watched your video on 1.25 speed as I did find your pace a little too slow
sounds like a personal preference, never got this before. feel free to watch at whatever speed makes you happy!
Sure will do
Hopefully you haven’t taken this in the wrong way just wanted to let you know
LOL I watched at 1.5
@@PixieTrixster do you read? did you not read the above comment that says watch at whatever speed you please? no one cares lol
@@LexAddison of course I read. About a novel a week. You talk SO slowly in these videos though. I get it. Journalism school tells you "talk at about half the speed you normally would talk at. Then talk even talk even slower than THAT."
It's just kind of maddening. Also, I shouldn't have to point out to you that redundancy of asking someone you suspect of being illiterate if they can read in a WRITTEN comment. What did you think I was going to say? "No. I cannot read. Except I was able to read your question asking me if I am able to read."
I've just found out lately a lot of content creators on RUclips are speaking really slowly and the jaded part of me things that they're doing this to pad out the length of their videos. They take an hour to get through...18 minutes of content. And they do it. By adding. So. Many. Needless. Pauses. Between. Each. Word.
These days families and friends will cover for the usual suspects in community D, abandoned children and basic players of women's hearts, money and reputations, USUALLY not knowing what actually happened. 👀
Mónica needs to stop. She found the message and she read it. Nothing wrong with it. He was cheating. The fact you snooped or not is irrelevant. Stop making him make you feel bad for it.
Ashley seems to be wrapped up in Tyler’s fingers. She is taking it all for him. It won’t end well for them.
I understood that a lot of this had a lot to with the BM and when her marriage fell apart she relied on Tyler. And employed him to help her strip legal rights from her wife.
But nevertheless Tyler is responsible for all the bad decisions he made, including denying his kids in front of Ashley. He is more a Perpetrator than a victim.
@@silverbee3373 Agreed but mom is not a victim to me either
Storytimewithrikki is so 🐐
Oh my god. Explaining it is making it worse! He tried to be an uncle to his children?! What?! Just shut up and take the L.
I’m sure she Love is Blind should pay her to come & clear things up on the show’s reunion.🤷🏾♀️
Hi! 💙💙💙
He was on the show right?
Yes, one of the friends he had when he was getting ready
we are talking about the lie, not the back story Jake
I wonder what he is going to say now ?!? Because Britt exposed him last night
his friend said a whole lot of nothing. tyler is a pathological liar at the end of the day.
Okay Monica. You saw this but don’t remember it but do? Everyone on this show is a horrible liar lol
Her name is pronounced like the word fly. It’s Bri (Brye).
This “friend” is talking out his bootyhole
So did Ashley marry him or what? She had enough information to make an informed decision to marry a man she has know 30 days or not. Tyler going to Tyler but what is Ashley doing?
She didn’t have all of the information at the time of the wedding. I can’t imagine such a young g woman marrying a man with child support for 3 very young children. That’s definitely going to place limitations on their lives. 😮
I think Stephens and Tyler won’t show up to the reunion. It doesn’t matter tho. Nick and Vanessa SUCK at addressing serious issues on the reunion. They never ask the right questions. I HOPE I’m wrong
Olua Stephen Babatunde??? I’m worn out, y’all. 😮💨😮💨😮💨
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 That ancestry is working over time
This is some bullcrap. Did he donate his sperm or not. I don't want to know anything else.
It sounds like he did bit it's complicated.
Such a a decision to make atleast if it was 1.
If Monica has been cheated on in every relationship, the issue isn't the men. You're the common denominator, Monica.
Dude can’t break up with her?
Cheating requires deception. Monica could be an actual DEMON; cheating is always a reflection of bad character for the cheater.
There’s no justification to cheating, if the relationship is trash then be mature enough to communicate the problem. This is an L take. A grown adult is responsible for their own actions no one else is responsible for their actions but themselves. Saying stuff like this removes the autonomy and accountability of the person that cheated. Wrong is wrong, point blank.