Well, read about his legacy & critics too, because while it’s interesting to watch this time capsule, he was detrimental to art more than a positive. He was a conceited arrogant grump, a bit of a con artist… who attained way more power & influence he should have had!
14:49 THIS is what I wish my non artist friend could understand about art. They always ask, "so i can just scribble and sell it for a million dollars?" No, you can just TELL it's not good.
They've been down on him since the late sixties. He's definitely a great critic....so great in fact, that's it's difficult to disentangle his ideas and concepts from the work of the artists he wrote about from the 40's - on. It's difficult to see these works at all without thinking about CG. I can't think of another critic who had such a symbiotic relationship with artists as Greenberg did (for better or worse)
Some pretty stupid comments here. Is it that hard to take a serious person seriously? But it's just youtube. The part about Pollack going beyond the usual body-part usage pins his contribution to art well. Greenberg speaks with soul. Good video.
I think everyone is taking him seriously. He was pretentious and ruined many artistic careers with his arrogance & shortsightedness. I don’t mind the careers that blossomed thanks to him, I resent him for all that was lost.
This video needs to be remastered. The sound is not good, Greenberg had that nasal inarticulate way of talking which makes it very hard to understand him at times. Even the interviewer who’s far more articulate, gets mumbled at times. Greenberg was such a narcissist! His ego so important… “I had said that, I had written that…” Pollock was wrong, easel painting will never die or become obsolete. The ones who become are the idiots who proclaim “death of painting, death of art, death of theater…”… humans will never stop doing what’s deeply within our very essence! Never! Some interesting insights, good material for research but only who doesn’t know what happened would think he was a great visionary. Sure he inspired the dictatorship, the institutionalization of abstract expressionism, conceptual art, minimalism, and for a time it was awful hard to be part of the avant-garde being a painter. As I came to adulthood in the 90s, I was vehemently anti-establishment, reactionary to these much empty philosophical ramblings by conceptual “artists”, to the status quo he and Alloway helped to create… art has to be able to affect us without a word, a paragraph or a book about it, a title even, or it’s something else… a philosophical or literary exercise… I don’t believe in throwing everything someone did away, but Greenberg was a passing shortsighted arrogant man who has totally been outlived. Oh, we’ll see some people trying to redirect him some time from now or a century from here… but it’ll not have the same impact… or at least, I certainly hope so.
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Thanks for the upload! I've been reading his essays and it's great seeing him speaking!
I like this guy. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for uploading this.
I can remember watching this on a Saturday morning in 1982.
Was it raining?
I've decided to read more Greenberg after hearing him here. Thank you for the new knowledge..
Well, read about his legacy & critics too, because while it’s interesting to watch this time capsule, he was detrimental to art more than a positive. He was a conceited arrogant grump, a bit of a con artist… who attained way more power & influence he should have had!
Thank you for posting this!
The way Clement pulls so audibly on those lung darts makes me want to start smoking again.
😂 making it look cool asf
14:49 THIS is what I wish my non artist friend could understand about art. They always ask, "so i can just scribble and sell it for a million dollars?" No, you can just TELL it's not good.
Tell them to develop an eye, see how far they get.
Rather tell them to remove their eyes because there's nothing left to see on art. It's complete nonsense.
People are kinda down on Greenberg these days, but for me he does always talk a lot of sense.
They've been down on him since the late sixties. He's definitely a great critic....so great in fact, that's it's difficult to disentangle his ideas and concepts from the work of the artists he wrote about from the 40's - on. It's difficult to see these works at all without thinking about CG. I can't think of another critic who had such a symbiotic relationship with artists as Greenberg did (for better or worse)
Why are people down on Greenberg these days?
He was more of a hob-knobber than a writer .
He was more of a con artist than an intellectual. An arrogant pretentious narcissist who destroyed the lives of many by his influence.
"Breaks the plane" & "It doesn't sit": wish these were explained more.
Like music - it is a vibe. Maybe its psychology. Maybe its taste. Greenberg did say that nobody can say.
If they ever make a movie about Clement Greenberg, they should get Phil Silvers to play the part.
Murals were the past (Lascaux, Diego Rivera), perhaps they used that reference point to predict the future (street art). Off the easel.
awesome!
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Some pretty stupid comments here. Is it that hard to take a serious person seriously? But it's just youtube. The part about Pollack going beyond the usual body-part usage pins his contribution to art well. Greenberg speaks with soul. Good video.
He only existed to tell people what to think. His comments are nonsense. Nothing more than his opinion. And no more valuable than anyone else’s.
I think everyone is taking him seriously. He was pretentious and ruined many artistic careers with his arrogance & shortsightedness.
I don’t mind the careers that blossomed thanks to him, I resent him for all that was lost.
FAME AT ALMOST ANY COST
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OLD
SPLASHES
OLD
MEN
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DREAMS NOW
DEAD
Phil Silver look a like , just a comic!
The critic mixing relationships and money with opinion seems problematic.
For who? 😂
I was being? ........ a tie sales man!!!!!!!!!!!
This video needs to be remastered. The sound is not good, Greenberg had that nasal inarticulate way of talking which makes it very hard to understand him at times. Even the interviewer who’s far more articulate, gets mumbled at times.
Greenberg was such a narcissist! His ego so important… “I had said that, I had written that…”
Pollock was wrong, easel painting will never die or become obsolete. The ones who become are the idiots who proclaim “death of painting, death of art, death of theater…”… humans will never stop doing what’s deeply within our very essence! Never!
Some interesting insights, good material for research but only who doesn’t know what happened would think he was a great visionary.
Sure he inspired the dictatorship, the institutionalization of abstract expressionism, conceptual art, minimalism, and for a time it was awful hard to be part of the avant-garde being a painter.
As I came to adulthood in the 90s, I was vehemently anti-establishment, reactionary to these much empty philosophical ramblings by conceptual “artists”, to the status quo he and Alloway helped to create… art has to be able to affect us without a word, a paragraph or a book about it, a title even, or it’s something else… a philosophical or literary exercise… I don’t believe in throwing everything someone did away, but Greenberg was a passing shortsighted arrogant man who has totally been outlived. Oh, we’ll see some people trying to redirect him some time from now or a century from here… but it’ll not have the same impact… or at least, I certainly hope so.
Just like Zeus, we kill our fathers.