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Mural. Jackson Pollock
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2016
- En 1943, Jackson Pollock recibe de Peggy Guggenheim el encargo de crear una obra para decorar la entrada de su residencia. Tras enfrentarse a un gran lienzo en blanco, el artista acometió el proyecto y pintó Mural, hoy considerada una de las obras clave de su trayectoria.
Desde su génesis hasta la actualidad, este documental recorre la historia de esta monumental obra de Pollock. Para ello, cuenta con la participación del actor y autor Steve Martin; Erika Doss (University of Notre Dame); David Anfam (Senior Consulting Curator del Clyfford Still Museum de Denver y comisario de la exposición 'Mural, Jackson Pollock. La energía hecha visible'); la autora Mary V. Dearborn; Joni L. Kinsey (University of Iowa); Sean O'Harrow (Director of Iowa Museum of Art); Ellen G. Landau (Art Case Western Reserve University); Joyce Summerwill (Founder UIMA Docent Program); Yvonne Szafran (Senior Conservator of Paintings J. Paul Getty Museum); Scott Schaefer (Senior Curator of Paintings J. Paul Getty Museum); James Cuno (President & CEO J. Paul Getty Trust); and Phylip Rylands (Director Peggy Guggenheim Collection).
Loved loved!!!!! What an amazing documentary!!!!!
It'd be nice it someone would do a doc on Janet Sobel for her drip art. Peggy Guggenheim did a show for her in 1946.
One of the most enjoyable exhibitions that I have ever created. The Getty conservation experts worked miracles, while Philip Rylands and the Peggy Guggenheim Venice's staff made for a dream team.
Yes, they were absolutely super. Apart from extensive damage to the painting.
Gracias por compartir!!👍👍👍
Makes you want to go to Iowa!
I have never seen 'Mural' outside of an all Jackson Pollock coffee table book that is in a very well done book on extremely heavy stock glossy paper. Seeing it in this book gives the authentic 'Mural' little justice. Before viewing it in this coffee table book, it was printed on a double folded composition which gave it a good effort. I paid $130 for it out of a used book store for an 8 out of 10, condition wise. Brand new out of a store, it easily could have sold for $300. As a life long painter, I studied the painting in the book for about 50 minutes. The question to myself, "Could I paint something of this caliber given unlimited time, a large enough space and a helper to mix paints and clean up, etc.?" I came to the answer "no" quite quickly. Then I thought my question to myself deserved some merit in the "why not?"category. I came up with two answers that don't answer the question sufficiently, as if we knew the answer, we all could paint that well. In the end analysis, there was something Pollock had that only the best of masters were born with.. You could say, "yeah, talent." That isn't it. The only way I can think of a reasonable comparison is Beethoven was completely deaf by age 45. He was still composing what is described as darker music while being completely deaf. That is the one thing that sets him apart from every other composer that has ever lived. 'My 'Mural' would be similar in that if you studied it closely, my effort would look sloppy iif put next to Pollock's original. The average person might think it was painted perfectly. Anyone who has painted and studied painting would pick out the Pollock within a few minutes..., maybe sooner. Brilliant Pollock, maybe my favourite of his.
Art is so subjective, thats why i try to please myself, ive made 2 or 3 that i absolutely love,! Brilliant masterpiece,s, except only my friends know .
You forgot to write what the two answers were:
" I came up with two answers that don't answer the question sufficiently"
GRANDEEEE! GRAZIE!
The creative process that accompanies Compmaturism, based on intuition and expression, is completely in line with the neurovisual needs of contemporary art audiences. Compmaturism invites the viewer to an endless adventure in which nothing is obvious, and it is fascinating in this new direction of art.
BRAVO,
Nevertheless this is the ultimate point of artistry Jackson pollock has been on my mind great artusts make us comprehend rhat in life we learn so much when we see such great art exhibits and we go into rhe soul if the painting and rhe offering that these artists give to the spectatators yes yes it's all about this great artist a league of its own / I salute this great artists 🎉
Ineffably magnificent. Jesus..........eat your heart out.
Enjoyed this, being a artist
I remember this as a picture in a high school book, then in art books but never realized the size! Thanks
In the movie Pollock, directed and acted by Ed Harris, and Marcia Gay Harden plays his wife Lee Krasner, it's well depicted to show the size of this painting. I think it's about 20 feet long, or possibly more.
Always breathtaking!
Não conhecia esse pintor magnífico. Depois que um artista da minha cidade viu o meu trabalho, o comparou a Pollack. Fiquei intrigado, quis conhecê-lo. Estou maravilhado!
Spanish sub titles if you want it or not. I guess spanish folks can't figure out how to turn on CC?
Excellent painting but surely the secret to being a mega successful artist is having a benefactor/collector (in this case Peggy Gugenheim).. When I see these shows about the most famous artists, I can't help think there are better artists out there who were never discovered a la the mathematician Ramanujian..
It is called life, it ain't fair . . . .but folks like G. Richter, A. Kiefer, Twombly, Oldenburg, Nauman, Puryear, and thousands of other very visible prosperous visual artists never had benefactors. They just work hard, get on with it, and don't complain.
@@higgsmerino3925 I agree Higgs.. BUT... Twombly had Larry Gagosian selling and promoting him and some of the others had similar people promoting/representing them... I'm not complaining..just making an observation..
artists can only achieve a patrons support if they display massive talent, like a natural selection process its not that he was great because he had a patron but the reverse
It is not like Peggy Guggenheim supported him in any extravagant fashion. Life was still hard for him and Lee Krasner for many, many years. Life magazine may have a little to do with his fame. And fame was not something he seemed to want. Or so I have learned so far. Much more to learn but he painted because he needed to not because he craved fame. He had his problems for sure. Not such a great life really.
Let us not forget that Peggy initially did not see Pollock’s class, it was her good friend Mondriaan that pointed her to Pollock.
seeing it at the Getty was breathtaking
Bravo Pollok J.🎉🎉
Yo recién pude entender la dimension del cuadro cuando la niña se puso a danzar frente a el, simplemente fantastico.!!!!
Love this
Maravilloso !!!
Se habla mucho de los pintores pero poco se sabe de sus mecenas ojala algún día
se les diera crédito ya que si ellos no tendriamos a picasso, dalí, leonora carrington y otros
en estos museos, citaré a Sir Edward James.....saludos
Jackson Pollack was a Jazz musician with paint.
good comment
Jazz has structure and emotional resonance people can understand. Drops and drips are indeed a dead end.
Well said,
No, he wasn't. He was a balding, overgrown baby. Who painted as though his brain hadn't fully developed.
Pollock
At 9:20, they say that the mural was done overnight... At 29:42 they say it was done over an
"extended period of time"....?
Wow so cool that you paid such close attention to the film.
Maybe he "finished" the piece in a night but made alterations to it over an extended period of time? Often times an artist will go back into a work, like Louise Borgious-- apparently people feared her changing works that had been sold or were on display because she felt she needed to. It could have been made, moved to the party, and then reworked there or moved back. Or she lied lol
So my art history professor signed this documentary, and when I commented on how crazy it is that he did it in one night she said that he did not. She said: "However, while there's a legend that Pollock painted the mural in one night, study of the work made clear that he did NOT. I thought that was clear in this but maybe not. Sometimes it's easy to miss or mistake information one has heard just once."
Karla Huebner at Wright State University
@@skibidiboobop Harris’ movie-which I love, especially the mural creation scenes-implies he did it overnight. This documentary shows how X-rays and paint analysis proves it took much longer.
in my humble opinion, the volume level of the musical interludes is disturbing
Easily disturbed
No entiendo cómo pudieron haber contratado a esa persona que colocó ese barniz que dañó las tonalidades de la tela de Pollock. Yo creo que esos especialistas deben ser gente muy calificada y no simples maestros de pacotilla. Aquel cometido fue un gravísimo error de la persona del museo, esa funcionaria que lo contrató.
Al final, y felizmente, la magnífica obra de Pollock salió airosa, gracias a técnicos especialistas en restauraciones, tal como debió haber sido desde el comienzo con las contrataciones para tratar una obra de la envergadura, así como el "Mural" de Jackson Pollock.
Bingo!
yo , simplemente alucino con sus obras, porque donde no parece que hay nada, hay mucho y eso es el abstracto
I love Grant Wood wish I could paint like that
UN ÍCONO DEL ARTE CONTEMPORANEO.
Still in the eye of the beholder no matter how many xrays, rich patrons and over intellectualizing is done.
No mention of Guggenheim taking advantage of Jackson as she did.Jackson’s parents where from Tingly Iowa( fly over country)Population 200 . Guess you could say the painting stayed home.
well well well...
decorativo
It's Duchamp's Nude Descending A Staircase. Big. Knowing Duchamp he probably showed Pollock how to paint it.
If they only knew how destructive this work of "restoration" is to the essential aesthetic of Pollock's work. It should have been hung "as is" - with all of the imperfections in the stretcher, faded varnish, and generally sloppy appearance. Pollock didn't really care about these things - and to groom these works in this manner, is to disrespect the nihilistic / existential tendencies of the age, and in particular, Pollock's own psychological pathologies, which are so much an essential part of his life and work - and which he, in a kind of heroic manner, embraced.
But the varnish removed wasnt added by Pollock, but instead, an ill advised attempt at preservation. Plus, I like the intensive lens the Getty gave it, something Guggenheim meant all along.
So you'd rather have the painting to become faded and old, to be dented by the mark of time and eventually dropped into a bin? Nonsense.
The last part of this doc reminds of a SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE SKIT
Haha! I thought it felt like Monty Python.
At least it won't be stolen very easily.
what the.. is that steve martin?
He is an avid art collector I heard.
Read his autobiography 'Born Standing Up; A Comic's Life'
Yup, the original "Wild and Crazy Guy" is an Art Lover.
😎
Insuportável como os cameramens andam dentro dos quadros e nunca deixam a gente ver o quadro. Uma coisa é cinema e outra, bem diversa, é quadro!
Unbearable as the cameramens walk inside the paintings and never let us see the painting. One thing is cinema and another, quite different, is painting!
Pollack might be important historically, but the trade-off of brush control for chance (slinging paint) has a limited fascination. Any rhythmic actions can become suggestive. He might have proven that fact, but relinquished most control over what would be suggested. I much prefer his early pre-drip paintings.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
30:42 That's not the way you use that tool!!
I think he was maybe using it as a straight edge to check the the piece was perfect because the mural consists of many parts.
I am actually related to Jackson Pollock.
So is Kevin Bacon.
Plus d'une fois, les critiques ont débattu des nouvelles tendances de l'art contemporain. Le dénominateur commun était l'accent mis sur le processus de création comme élément décisif et le plus important. Le compmaturisme Compmaturism ) est apparu au premier plan.
Then scribble deliberately so it would look like something. I do abstract.
cool stuff :)
Alguien tiene un resumen de esto?
...el cuadro perdió el ritmo . Se ve alterado y, muy marcado. Perdió la magia transparente del poema.
It was inevitable that someone would do drip painting. But that doesn't make it less of a bore.
Great artist
I think Pollack must have had rhythm.
Of course he did, S Haney, good observation! Pollack was a drummer first. See Ed Harris' film version of Jackson, and you`ll see.
rythm....you got it right. stay in the zone, in the pulse...
i like the Ed Harris movie. He kind of made it himself... an actor with some integrity.
What artist told Jack to make a hole in a can, fill it with paint, put it on a string, and swing it over a canvas?
Probably Marcel Duchamp.
Did she say ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS? So I suppose it seems not unreasonable to want to see it first .
I try to mimic drop painting it is hard to drop.
don't mimic. throw it around. picture what you want.
Jackson Pollack became famous by throwing paint at canvas.
No.
For honest artists, fame is not the motivation. Though it may happen.
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Welcome to my home ~♡
The cigarettes, talk about the cigarettes.
Its excelent
Jackson Pollock is not the original drip splatter artist. Look in the sky and in nature and you will see that God was doing it forever.
my favourite art piece by god is malaria. what an artistic genius, those african children never saw it coming. and don't get me started on natural disasters!
Cancer is another good one. Who but god could have imagined that innovation? Amen.
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S-p-a-t-t-e-r
Not splatter.
@@devindevon. Ha ha. Funny stuff.
Actually cancer cells can be modified in an easy step to become immortal. My career was looking down a microscope at cell lines (immortal cells). Clones, if you will. I read and studied Revelations many times and the similarities with tissue cell culture is uncanny. I’m not sure about God inventing cancer but she may have. One thing is certain, cancer did invent god.
The beginning sound is awful.
energy
Pollocks talent measures perfectly with kindergarden children painting for mommy and daddy eh...
Some say artists are born, not trained. Or, all children are artists until they unlearn or are teached to inhibit their artist within...
I forced myself to watch all of this. I wanted to watch the machinations of the art world and all its motivations. Mostly base ones by the way.
What does "base ones" mean?
@@martinzitter4551 "base": lacking or indicating the lack of higher qualities of mind or spirit
@@sebastianmelmoth685 ~ Is it his assertion that most of the motives of the art world lack higher qualities of mind or spirit and that he forced himself to that conclusion?
@@martinzitter4551 Sorry, I can't answer that. I have no access to his/her mind.
@@sebastianmelmoth685 ~ Would it be your assertion?
He knew his worth during his life and how special his art was, yet he sold he's famous painting to Rockerfeller for $300
Abstract Expressionism was a cultural weapon to fight Soviet Realism. Funds were set up under millionaire’s names, etc., and these artists you now muse over were tapped on the shoulder. Nothing genius.
That's what alcoholics and drug addicts do when they need money.
master, pollock!!!
if Fedor Emelianenko would have been an artist instead of A fighter
@John Bryan ok, lol Im well aware of that and your not wrong but I was simply making the reference to the two looking alike in my opinion and the contrast of careers , so what's your point ?
@John Bryan ok sure you win ✌
Dead end is right. You know what gives me chills? That the money spent on these garbage paintings would probably have been enough to feed and clothe every homeless person in New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco
Nice, the most self absorbed educated group on themselves. Tuning out
The great fakers all despised these people of the Art World. Hebron, Perenyi and Baltracchi all have (had in Hebron's case) a great contempt for people like the majority of these professionals in this documentary.
Why is splattered paint on large canvas so glorified???😵😈😡😬😤
DIEGO RIVERA is the father of Murals
I believe Michaelangelo painted the sistine chapel 500 years earlier
I believe the paintings on the walls of the Lascaux Cave date from the Paleolithic era.
"It's art Jim, but not as we know it"
A blind man on a galloping horse could have produced similar work. Have a day off. Over the years we've seen ludicrous canvasses described as art. I've seen an elephant in Nong Nooch paint with oils. I'm not joking !
I produce all sorts of art myself. I'm not brilliant, I'm just OK. I sell a fair amount, so that's OK. I do commissions sometimes, but I also do original compositions. When did you last see Trump and Winston Churchill standing together each with Tommy Guns with the words "WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER !" printed underneath in bold capitals
OR
Pelosi, Nadler and Schiff being arrested by Trump, Barr, Durham and the cops ?
Have a look here WWW.100Temptations.com (Full size posters also available)
Happy Christmas to all - Chris in Thailand
Charles Taylor you’re a piece of trash
Ok!
C.T. Brilliant, lets Go Brandon!
nah, pollock was an alcoholic who spattered paint. which is fine and dandy...some talent and courage to share with the public. but to immortalize him as a genius is annoying
Tell me why Pollock is so famous directly... besides the new deal... originality? emotion? what?
He fucked Peggy?
The New Deal was pre-WWII. Pollock became famous at the end of the 1940s. Not sure how the New Deal made him famous. The fucking Peggy theory is better.
My opinion(as an Art Snob) - Jackson would be be disgusted by these guys.
thank goodness he had a rich sugar mama to make sure his work lived on.
I think it is marvelous, only the price is atrocious.
He made a very good living for himself despite having the technical ability of a 3 year old. You have to admire that. On the down side he ushered in the artistic desert that is contemporary art.
Regression....
Steve Martin, who was a good comedian and banjo player, is talking shit...was all brush painting irrelevant after the first brush painting...JP is in fact painting without contacting the surface and he does it damn well.
bless these conservator! this is so tedious and time consuming
Amazing painter I don't think my 4 year old could have done any better.
Why do I want to laugh, even if Steve tries to be serious?
Pollock’s so-called art is proof that the art world is very easily duped.
shut the fuck up terry you dumb piece of shit
Pollock doesn't own drip painting and his works aren't worth much at all artistically speaking. all of these paintings have been artificially inflated regardless of how good the art actually is.. the prices on art pieces does not represent the art anymore but the whims of the rich and respected. that's why fakes have been bought and sold at higher prices... the art isn't as special as everyone would like to be convinced, there essentially is no special reason these are so highly valued except for corruption in the art business.
You don’t really know much, but that’s acceptable.
@@tylerpodomik3272 you know nothing, and that's unacceptable. how your parents thought that you were in any way ready for connection to the internet let alone the outside world is beyond reason. your existence is an insult to life itself. you would literally stare at a spilled drink if someone told you it was art.
Interesting documentary. I still don't like his work, but to each their own.
Talking of
SOCIAL DISTANCING
why is there always such terrible music in art videos? It really doesn't have to be such way. particularly in the period of abstract expressionism, there is plenty of equivalent music around.
Paint company used artist for them to make more money...
Artist use paint companies to make more money
pollocks drip,drop, masterpieces were nothing more than one of his "wet dreams" eventually picked up & hung out to dry !
Steve Martin. Everything except a comedian. ???
proceed to Maine, proceed to Maine,,,, (from the movie Roxanne) it is kind of funny
@@rollacoastaride1937 Exactly. But they didn't label him a comedian in the video.
Diego Velázquez said: ¿Qué mierda es esto?
Looks like loads of paint drips. There's no meaning, except what you imply.
Modern Art is good when it matches the sofa. Seen better graffiti.
Mural is not a drip painting. You may be due for an eye exam. The drip paintings came later.
irrelevant
artists hate journalists, cos listen to them talking like they knew him and talking his historical narrative. and they didn't know shit.
NO..NO..NO............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yes yes yes.
Pollock did ( faux decorative art ) not FINE ART , COMPAREDTO " ALBERT. BIERSTEDT " HE. IS. A LAUGH
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"Señor Tesla, acaso usted no comprende el sentido del humor de los norteamericanos?!"
Thomas Alva Edison.
Ya sabemos que los yankees son expertos en la comedia y en el sentido del humor, usaron el mismo criterio para vanagloriar y engrandecer a este pintor de segunda. Creo que la misma tomadura de pelo emprendieron al resto del mundo y sobre todo a la historia del arte al considerar como un genio revolucionario e innovador a este "pintor", que su unico gran aporte a la historia del arte fue que la sobrevaloración es otra mas de las caracteristicas del artista moderno! Aunque les duela a los yankees, es así! Pollock es el artista mas sobrevalorado de la historia!! Quisieron con su poder magno del marketing emularlo a Picasso, y ni aun así El Malagueño lo puede ver de lejos!! Fue sencillamente un invento del capitalismo y de las relaciones entre el MOMA y la CIA, por entramado de los Rockefeller, que costeaban exposiciones en Europa para difundir el expresionismo abstracto! Esa fue la unica manera de que este "Picasso con fecha de vencimiento anterior a la fundacion de Virginia" fuera influyente y hoy por hoy tenemos que aguantar a profesores que le dedican odas tan vacias de correlato con lo que fue, como lo vacuo de sus representaciones y sus mal llamadas "Obras" que son meramente lienzos desperdiciados!! Para los que lo idolatran y sueñan ser como el, les digo que necesitan marketing, no talento!! Jackson Pollock, la mentira mas grande de la historia del arte!!
You do not understand so much of painting and art and genius if you genuinely hold the above beliefs. To say it is not your taste/style is one thing; to condemn Pollock as over-rated - well, that's up to you. But you are arrogant in your overstated, black and white criticism of the work and you seem to think you are the sole arbiter of what is 'art' or a work of art.
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I don't think Edison ever said that.
38:07 mmmmmm..... he´s pretty good, but at the same league as Monet, Dalí or Picasso (forget Warhol, he does not count at all) ??
I don´t think so. This guy should control his tongue.