Seeing this DIY RV Solar review, prompted me to tell you and anyone else reviewing the comment section how thankful I am for all of your solar installation videos. I apologize for this long comment but feel obligated to inform other viewers, the important info and detail you provide. After extensive research on RUclips, I decided to go with Brian’s wiring diagram and Victron Energy system. Brian’s download of products used have been extremely helpful. My self-sufficient VE system is supported by an 824-watt battery bank, and 2430 watts solar panels. Solar can get expensive and honestly having this step-by-step content with the products download allowed me to create a (3) phase solar install to offset cost. RV with Tito DIY is one of my favorite informative channels. Brian, thank you again for taking the time to provide these step-by-step videos.
You're very welcome. Thanks for the wonderful comment. It makes me happy to hear how you were able to use some of this information. Plus it's proof that you can customize this setup for your specific needs. Cheers! Brian
I’m a small fry dreamer at this point, but I had to comment how impressive this is. You have to be a smart man, electrical engineer? Looking to go RVing in future, would you recommend partial solar, on Class C for example. Really awesome ! Y’all enjoy!
Nice job, Tito. That's a real good deal on quality Sunpower panel. That's a better value than the new 550w Sungold power panels I bought for 51 cents/watt w/shipping. We're retired FTers who designed and built our system ourselves, on a tight budget. It took us 5 years to gather the resources and finally complete the project. We started by building a 620-watt liftable solar array on the side of our 1999 National Tropical MH. Our side array makes a nice bedroom window awning too, practically lifting itself with a couple gas struts, and it's easy to clean, standing safely on the ground. Next, we built a 12v, 560ah LiFePo-4 battery using 8, 280ah prismatic cells and a Heltec 330amp BMS with a 5a active balancer. It's roughly equivalent of 2 Battleborn gamechangers. These cells fit perfectly under the steps of our MH where our old pair of golf cart batteries used to reside. We insulated the battery compartment, cut a small hole in our step risers and installed a tiny computer CPU fan to keep this space at close to room temperature, so we don't have to worry about the BMS shutting down charging due to low temperature - or their life reduced from getting too hot. Our 12v system uses an 80A Progressive Dynamics converter/charger, a 1,000w Renogy inverter, a 50a Epever MPPT charge controller and a Lnex battery monitor. All this cost us under $3,500 and met all our off-grid electrical needs except for our air conditioning, heat and microwave. By mounting the solar array on the side of our coach, we left the roof free to rack 8, 550w solar panels down the length of our 35ft Class A, 15" off our roof, above our AC, vents, etc. We built the rack out of 2" 6061-T6 structural aluminum angle. The front 2 panels slope down at a shallow 9.5-degrees to meet the roof, producing a smooth laminar airflow over the array, making the RV more stable with less wind drag while driving too. It shades our entire roof, allowing plenty of cooling air underneath, increasing solar output and reducing the heat load on the air conditioners. Our overall height is still just under 12 ft. After we attached the rack, we coated the entire roof, including the array mounting feet, with Henry's Tropicool silicone sealant to keep things watertight. At my age, I can't see myself climbing on my roof to raise or lower these giant panels, so I mounted them in a fixed position. In reality, our 4,400w fixed array can run both our A/Cs, household appliances and charge our batteries from solar at the same time, even in winter. If your array is big enough there's no need to lift it - or worry which way your RV is parked to optimize production. Five years of boondocking experience with our liftable, side mounted array taught us that it's often difficult to find a NF campsite or boondocking spot oriented correctly (due east) for our south facing array. We mounted a Sungold Power all-in-one 48V, 5,000W Inverter/100A charge controller/battery charger, breakers and a Lnex battery monitor on the wall in our bedroom, saving us space as well as money compared to a system built with individual Victron components. Our 48v battery uses 16, 320ah prismatic cells and a 200amp Heltec BMS to keep it safe. Together with our 560ah 12v bank, we have a total of 23.5 kwh of batteries onboard - kept charged by 5,020 watts of solar. This is the equivalent storage capacity of $17,000 worth of Battleborn gamechangers for under $3,400. We removed our old rooftop bedroom A/C and replaced it with an EG4 28.5 seer-2, 12k btu mini-split heat pump on the upper rear of our motorhome. It's super quiet and cools as well as our 14.5k btu soft start equipped Furrion we have up front. This second phase provides 24/7 off-grid air conditioning and heat from the heat pump. We have a total of 6,000 watts of 120v inverted ac power, giving us off-grid electrical self-sufficiency without the need to run our generator, for a total budget of around $11,500, including the high-efficiency heat pump. Take care, and good luck with your new liftable array! We hope to see you down the road someday.
Brian. I want to thank you for all the quality information you continue to provide. After much planning, I’m in the final stage of installation and testing. You have been an invaluable source of knowledge. I am very proud of my design and installation and would love to share it with you to get your feedback. I expect to be done in a week. Keep up the great content. If you are ever in the Toronto area, we would love to take you and your Bride for dinner. John Anderson
You saying that you're very proud of your work says it all John. That makes me very happy. When you're done I'd love to see what you've done. Just shoot me an email.
I built my system using your plans and instructions from this video. It all works! My install is on a 1990 Fleetwood Limited FERD Hot Rodded 37' Class A. I swapped out the tired 217 HP EFI Ford 460 and C6 3 speed to a 400 HP 5.9L Cummins with an Allsion 1000 transmission. Regeared the rear and added a limited slip because I tend to go farther back boon docking than most and use my RV as a base camp for Extreme 4X4's. The only thing I need to do now is find the right solar panels to mount on the roof of the Big Girl. Everything is tested with some smaller panels setting in the sun outside the shop. But all the wiring is installed all the way from the roof to the batteries. I went with 2 Power Queen 300 AH Lipo4 Batteries because they fit neatly in my basement battery compartment slide out tray. The Victron Inverter and MPPT + stuff is all mounted on 2 verticel slide out panels, where the old dead Ice maker for the built-in bar used to be. My coach is onnly 30 amp, so I didn't go with the 50 amp multiplus because I don't think I'll need that much power. I am pretty happy with the setup up and can't wait to get the interior redone so we can get the wrap on it installed and get-er rolling again. And I'm thinking of replacing all the widows to double pane tilt outs. Looking for some good times with this one out in the Boondocks.
Excellent review. We have 1,800 AH LIFePO4 12V battery, 2,400 watts of solar, and 2 Victron Multiplus II inverters powering an all electric 2022 Newmar London Aire coach. It's a game changer. It provides 50 amps of power to the entire coach. We decided to go with a professional install because of 30% tax credit, 5 year warranty, 3 year tech support, and OEM like integration with Silver Leaf. We're very impressed with your engineering capability and thoughtful design. Should you decide to go with another inverter for a total of 6000 inverter watts, you can use two 4/O cables in tandem to handle the heat.
Thanks for sharing your approach to your setup. So far our inverter is working well for us especially after installing a 12V A/C. That's going to be the next story coming soon.
INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS ON FG ROOF: 1) 1 1/2” galvanized Unistrut painted white on sides and top. NO PAINT on bottom so VHB tape will adhere. 2) Area where Unistrut will be mounted should be thoroughly wiped clean with acetone. Do same with Unistrut. 3) Unistrut is mounted to roof with 1 1/2” wide VHB tape. (18” strip at front and back plus 24” strip in center.) 4) He caulked all along the edges and front and back edges of Unistrut with Sikaflex. 5) Holes were drilled into Unistrut at each corner and then he installed Rivnuts. 6) To attach solar panels to Unistrut he made L angles out of aluminum L angle material.
Hello Tito. My name is Lindsay White and I'm 69 years old. I'm very interested in joining the RV life. I follow you and you are one of my favorite RUclips channels. In the Military, I was a Fuel & Electrical Systems Specialist. Please let me help with a Powerful Suggestion: 1. Great Solar should be secondary. 2. Primary Power should be DC to DC charging. The GC3 battery BMS, is rated for 300 amp hours continuous. Meaning you can charge them with a lot of power. That's extremely powerful!! 3. You should use your Diesel engine to supply power to your RV! Especially when you're on the go and the weather is bad. You could do it quite safely and efficiently. 4. MY SUGGESTION; to get a secondary Alternator install professionally. Perhaps a BALMAR XT-Series 250 Amp/12 Volt Alternator. Set up TWO Victron Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger. That will give you 100 amp hours of power going into your batteries as you move from area to areas. Or you can just idle your Diesel Engine when you're low on power. Nate from Explorer's Life shows people how to set up two DC to DC chargers. God Bless you 🙏
Tito, I have watched your videos for years and have learned a TON. Thank you. I have to ask, given the vast array of skills you have and knowledge….What do/did you do for work? You’re not the average DIYer - I know from the Snap On tools you use. I’m really impressed with all that you know and do.
Thank You Brian! As usual, very helpful video, and the quality of work you do inspires, and is such a great example. Always enjoy your videos and the craftsmanship you share.
I just finished a redesign of my camper. I came across your video this afternoon looking for some info on transfer switches and Multiplus II inverters. I currently have 4 - 100W solar panels on my camper and would like to upgrade to 1K - 1.5K. I think I will have to make some changes to be able to get the remaining solar panels on top of my camper. I just downloaded your plans. Thanks for the great content and sharing of information.
@@daviscrt No. Not yet. We're still in Mexico but I've been working with the Insurance companies to make sure it's all good to go when I get it fixed back in the US.
I love Unistrut, you can mount anything and everything too it. Nothing like using the pepe cap ( grandpa cap) on the pickup as a platform. I wish I had your money to do all of this to my new 5th wheel, I just want to put in more solar and a few more batteries and an inverter.
I love unistrut too and use it for lots of things. I was able to save a fortune by buying an old RV which freed up money for this and other upgrades. Of course, doing the work myself saved a ton.
Excellent content.. i did a system similar to this with off grid cabin a 5000 watt system. I purchased an older dp coach and wanted to do solar on it, but was wondering if leaving the converter set up as is and just send the the charg controllers directly to the batteries. Would this cause problems ??? Just trying to sort things out in my mind. Thank
Very unique design for setting everything up. Very cool! But would trying run two air conditioners on hot days over load that low watt inverter while boondocking?
Thanks. I installed a 12V AC last year which takes the inverter out of the equation. Before that we would only run a single compressor at a time. If two A/C units were necessary we would either run our generator or move to a cooler boondocking location.
Can you show how you fabricated the side clamps for your panels shown at 14:46? I can mostly figure out how to build the end pieces but those are throwing me off. I'm trying to do a similar build on the roof of my cargo camper
In home solar installations, solar panels are mounted about 3" above the roof. This is for air flow to keep the panels cool. Hotter panels produce less electricity. Tito's mounts look to be about an inch, which is better than the flush mounting I see on most RV's. Still, I would go for a higher mount.
Nice job, I'm planning on installing thin flexible panels on top of my semi. And i was planning on covering the entire backside with vhb . But after seeing what you did i real wonder how much i need ?
This is an amazing resource! Thanks for putting this together. One question comes to mind. On my truck camper I plan to have as many panels as possible. What would you suggest for making the panels flush (frame to frame)? Could you do the same thing with the nut rivets but on the under part of the panel? Or perhaps do it exactly how you did it but flip that L bracket to the inside of the panel? Not sure how that can be done. Any ideas?
Nice video and breakdown of your design. I keep thinking about adding a bigger solar system to my RV, but have been procrastinating. How is the air conditioning working that you designed and built?
Does the inverter have the "assist" feature to help by sharing loads with the land line/generator feed? In other words, you could use the AC on a 15 amp shore cable and the inverter will supplement the incoming power with its own.
Yes. The power assist is very useful. I use it all the time. I don't even use 50A power anymore. Instead I just plug in an extension cord into a 15A receptacle and set the power assist max on the Multiplus to 10A. That's enough for the inverter to charge at 120A DC. We have a large 5500W generator. So I typically ramp it up to 40-50A when running the generator. If you're using a small portable generator, then YES use the power assist to set a lower max of 10-15A. Hope that helps.
My battery configuration partially dictated that decision. I didn't have room for a fourth battery. It all worked out. Another reason (doesn't apply to me though) is that you wouldn't be able to use a alternator DC-To-DC charger if you wanted.
Hey, Brian. Love your channel and love this video. That's a great design. I want to do something very similar, but I'm going to take it in stages. First stage is changing out my lead acid batteries for lithium. Stage two will be adding solar. I downloaded your equipment list and see that the Epoch 460 can be substituted. I've been looking at those and have watched your review. If I go with the Epoch 460, is there anything in your equipment list that I won't need because it's already built into the battery? Thanks for your advice.
Those taller brackets were from an old solar panel set and mount someone gave me years ago. You could probably find some stainless angle stock on ebay and cut them down. www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Angle-304-Grade-Various-Size-1-meter-LONG-/282515593443?_ul=IN
Hi Tito. I didn't see an answer to the question below about why you're not using the converter in order to top off your batteries. Seems like a no-brainer to take advantage of that power while you're driving.
@RVwithTito yes, as in alternator battery charging. Seems it would be worthwhile to have the alternator charging while driving. Running the generator to charge or pass-through when batteries are low would be burning gas. Am I missing something?
I'm a first-time viewer of your channel. Great video. Why did you decide not to have any DC-to-DC charging from the chassis alternator? My thought is that, on a cloudy or rainy travel day, it would be nice to arrive with fully charged batteries. Also, while not very efficient, it would be a backup to the backup.
Do you have a description of the exact rivet nuts and sizes? Thank you for the great video. I'll be installing a 300w panel on top of my toy hauler. Thank you!
I could not find a good diagram tool that dis what I needed so I used my regular graphics editing software (Affinity Designer) and drew it from scratch. I had more flexibility that way.
Nice, well thought out system. Question, why did you choose 12v over say 48v? I see you only used 3 batteries so I know it would have taken a 4th battery or just use 2 instead of 3.
Wanted to keep it simple and remain compatible with external auxiliary equipment (ext water pump, power washer, chassis battery charger) and my new 12V air conditioner. Doing so would require a separate dedicated high amperage converter and busbar. Yes, plus the 3 battery limitation. 24V or 48V would need another battery for which there was no space.
Thanks for the educational video. Did you happen to weigh your class A before and after the solar/battery upgrade? It seems like you added a lot of weight.
No I didn't, but I did remove a 300lb air conditioner, two tube TVs, and two lead acid batteries :) Here are some weights though. Solar panels are 50lbs each (x4), Batteries are 80lbs each (x3), the inverter is roughly 30lbs. So I guess that comes to around 550lbs total (includes Strut Channels).
@Tito - I want to upgrade my flex solar panels with rigid solar panels on my 2020 Airstream Nineteen. I'm wondering if I can use the heavy duty VHB tape and and some brackets to secure the panels and use this tutu rial as a guide to complete the upgrade.
It should work and with the metal roof, you'll be able to add a couple of mounting bolts to secure the strut channel even better. The only issue I see is that it's a curved roof. So you'll have to install taller mounting brackets (at least on the inner mount) to lift the panel above the curve. I'd do some measuring and testing first. The solar panel size makes a difference as well.
Super clean mounting system for those panels. I'm going to try something similar. The sidewalls on my solar panels are something like 1/4" thick which seems too thick for the rivnuts I have.. Did you need to use extra deep rivnuts?
I see what you mean.. Mine have a double-wall extrusion. The corners have some kind of insert in the chanel probably to secure the corners. Rivnuts installed, aluminum strut channel attached, and panels mounted! Thanks!
Thanks for getting back so soon. I just put a 100 watt panel on my enclosed trailer and only have about a foot of wire showing, so I put black wire loom on it. I have so much of the loom that I just used some. I think I will put some aternabond tape over it.
Brian, been following your channel for a long time. On the solar panel rails what is a good way to mount them on a roof of thin plywood and foam. I just resealed it with the Tropicool silicone so the 3m tape won’t work. Thanks!
Are those wind deflector really make a difference? I have 200 watts panel with 6 heavy duty brackets with 24 lag screws per panel with about 1/3 tube of dicore on each bracket. Problem is I am not on the frame in each one but it's a brand new RV. I am hoping to add wind deflector to mass a bit of safety. I even wanted to add a wire strap just as another layer of safety. Am I over doing this you think?
How do I go about removing the generator? & rerouting the components attached? Is it pretty straight forward or is there a diagram somewhere that I can read up on
Two questions about the junction box on the roof and multiple controllers. Given the fact that you have a charge controller for each panel, I'm assuming that the junction box on the roof is just a service point for each run. The wires for each solar panel are not being connected in that box at all. They essentially go straight down to the controllers, correct? Secondly, do you have any specific customizations on the controllers so that they don't compete at all, such as disabling the equalization or any other settings like float? Thank You! Brian
Where do you get the power for the inverter, charge controller and other equipment? Do you have a dedicated circuit in the panel? My equipment is going under the bed in our TT and there is no electric nearby.
Did you always have DIY on your channel name or did you add that? I don't remember seeing it and I've been watching since around the time you took the couch out of your old RV.
Question: Did you pick a Victron 3000W or a 5000w inverter? I have a 1999 Winnebago 50amp, generator with two ac units, but I only would only run one ac unit at a time. My refrigerator is 120v ac or propane. Thanks again for another great video. South Florida.
Hello Brian, I just wanna let you know. I’ve been a subscriber for years and the other day I went to look on RUclips see if you had any new videos and it turns out somehow you had become unsubscribed and not by me just thought I’d let you know thank you for your videos.
We're probably more interested in the AC you installed. BTW in that motorhome if you haven't checked and replaced the fluid in the emergency brake housing behind the transmission you need to. There's only about 3 ounces of fluid between total destruction and those are almost impossible to find. Don't ignore it 😮
I'm working on a similar video about the 12V A/C soon. We've been using it and it's working great. I'll have to check that fluid. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks!
Not sure. The BMS in the battery should be keeping the cells balanced. If you have a bad cell, then you'd have to take it apart anyway. I'd contact the manufacturer and let them know.
@@RVwithTito It's the LiTime Lifepo4 12v 400ah battery cost was $1300 if you can look it up maybe you can tell what's in it I been following you for years now and I know you are very experienced
Yes. I've heard stories. These haven't budged in years and I've been through it all. In fact, they are heavy enough that without even being fastened down, they don't move.
Laying the uni strut directly on the roof and caulking all around.. risky. Holding water in open oblongs, without a place to weep. To each their own.. I live in Florida, massive rain and humidity. Just saying
The tracks are not sealed all the way down. There are two gaps in the middle for the purpose of drainage. We live in Washington...rains all the time. 😃
@@RVwithTito with guimods it will show power output from each individual panel on the main summary screen. (If you one of the want to know kinda people)
Seeing this DIY RV Solar review, prompted me to tell you and anyone else reviewing the comment section how thankful I am for all of your solar installation videos. I apologize for this long comment but feel obligated to inform other viewers, the important info and detail you provide. After extensive research on RUclips, I decided to go with Brian’s wiring diagram and Victron Energy system. Brian’s download of products used have been extremely helpful. My self-sufficient VE system is supported by an 824-watt battery bank, and 2430 watts solar panels. Solar can get expensive and honestly having this step-by-step content with the products download allowed me to create a (3) phase solar install to offset cost. RV with Tito DIY is one of my favorite informative channels. Brian, thank you again for taking the time to provide these step-by-step videos.
You're very welcome. Thanks for the wonderful comment. It makes me happy to hear how you were able to use some of this information. Plus it's proof that you can customize this setup for your specific needs. Cheers! Brian
How much did your setup cost? Ballpark figure?
I’m a small fry dreamer at this point, but I had to comment how impressive this is. You have to be a smart man, electrical engineer? Looking to go RVing in future, would you recommend partial solar, on Class C for example. Really awesome ! Y’all enjoy!
Those rivet nuts into the panels are a great idea. I seem to forget the simple things thanks Tito😊
Yes. They have worked great for this. It opens up lots of options and I use them for lots of things now.
@@RVwithTito I see posts everywhere, "Check out RV with Tito and his rivnuts!" . Thanks for your abundant sharing of knowledge!
Do you think the rivet nuts would work on the thin plywood roof?
Nice job, Tito. That's a real good deal on quality Sunpower panel. That's a better value than the new 550w Sungold power panels I bought for 51 cents/watt w/shipping.
We're retired FTers who designed and built our system ourselves, on a tight budget. It took us 5 years to gather the resources and finally complete the project. We started by building a 620-watt liftable solar array on the side of our 1999 National Tropical MH. Our side array makes a nice bedroom window awning too, practically lifting itself with a couple gas struts, and it's easy to clean, standing safely on the ground. Next, we built a 12v, 560ah LiFePo-4 battery using 8, 280ah prismatic cells and a Heltec 330amp BMS with a 5a active balancer. It's roughly equivalent of 2 Battleborn gamechangers. These cells fit perfectly under the steps of our MH where our old pair of golf cart batteries used to reside. We insulated the battery compartment, cut a small hole in our step risers and installed a tiny computer CPU fan to keep this space at close to room temperature, so we don't have to worry about the BMS shutting down charging due to low temperature - or their life reduced from getting too hot. Our 12v system uses an 80A Progressive Dynamics converter/charger, a 1,000w Renogy inverter, a 50a Epever MPPT charge controller and a Lnex battery monitor. All this cost us under $3,500 and met all our off-grid electrical needs except for our air conditioning, heat and microwave.
By mounting the solar array on the side of our coach, we left the roof free to rack 8, 550w solar panels down the length of our 35ft Class A, 15" off our roof, above our AC, vents, etc. We built the rack out of 2" 6061-T6 structural aluminum angle. The front 2 panels slope down at a shallow 9.5-degrees to meet the roof, producing a smooth laminar airflow over the array, making the RV more stable with less wind drag while driving too. It shades our entire roof, allowing plenty of cooling air underneath, increasing solar output and reducing the heat load on the air conditioners. Our overall height is still just under 12 ft. After we attached the rack, we coated the entire roof, including the array mounting feet, with Henry's Tropicool silicone sealant to keep things watertight. At my age, I can't see myself climbing on my roof to raise or lower these giant panels, so I mounted them in a fixed position. In reality, our 4,400w fixed array can run both our A/Cs, household appliances and charge our batteries from solar at the same time, even in winter. If your array is big enough there's no need to lift it - or worry which way your RV is parked to optimize production. Five years of boondocking experience with our liftable, side mounted array taught us that it's often difficult to find a NF campsite or boondocking spot oriented correctly (due east) for our south facing array.
We mounted a Sungold Power all-in-one 48V, 5,000W Inverter/100A charge controller/battery charger, breakers and a Lnex battery monitor on the wall in our bedroom, saving us space as well as money compared to a system built with individual Victron components. Our 48v battery uses 16, 320ah prismatic cells and a 200amp Heltec BMS to keep it safe. Together with our 560ah 12v bank, we have a total of 23.5 kwh of batteries onboard - kept charged by 5,020 watts of solar. This is the equivalent storage capacity of $17,000 worth of Battleborn gamechangers for under $3,400. We removed our old rooftop bedroom A/C and replaced it with an EG4 28.5 seer-2, 12k btu mini-split heat pump on the upper rear of our motorhome. It's super quiet and cools as well as our 14.5k btu soft start equipped Furrion we have up front. This second phase provides 24/7 off-grid air conditioning and heat from the heat pump. We have a total of 6,000 watts of 120v inverted ac power, giving us off-grid electrical self-sufficiency without the need to run our generator, for a total budget of around $11,500, including the high-efficiency heat pump.
Take care, and good luck with your new liftable array! We hope to see you down the road someday.
Nice job. You have quite the setup. You're right. There's always room for improvement and it's always a work in progress :)
Clearly explained and very informative. Excellent video, thanks
Brian.
I want to thank you for all the quality information you continue to provide. After much planning, I’m in the final stage of installation and testing. You have been an invaluable source of knowledge. I am very proud of my design and installation and would love to share it with you to get your feedback. I expect to be done in a week. Keep up the great content.
If you are ever in the Toronto area, we would love to take you and your Bride for dinner.
John Anderson
You saying that you're very proud of your work says it all John. That makes me very happy. When you're done I'd love to see what you've done. Just shoot me an email.
Brian, you are a genius!!!! Your system looks better than any other system I've seen out there. Great job.
Wow. Thanks for that. I did put a lot of thought into it and am really happy with the outcome. 👍
I built my system using your plans and instructions from this video. It all works! My install is on a 1990 Fleetwood Limited FERD Hot Rodded 37' Class A. I swapped out the tired 217 HP EFI Ford 460 and C6 3 speed to a 400 HP 5.9L Cummins with an Allsion 1000 transmission. Regeared the rear and added a limited slip because I tend to go farther back boon docking than most and use my RV as a base camp for Extreme 4X4's. The only thing I need to do now is find the right solar panels to mount on the roof of the Big Girl. Everything is tested with some smaller panels setting in the sun outside the shop.
But all the wiring is installed all the way from the roof to the batteries. I went with 2 Power Queen 300 AH Lipo4 Batteries because they fit neatly in my basement battery compartment slide out tray.
The Victron Inverter and MPPT + stuff is all mounted on 2 verticel slide out panels, where the old dead Ice maker for the built-in bar used to be. My coach is onnly 30 amp, so I didn't go with the 50 amp multiplus because I don't think I'll need that much power.
I am pretty happy with the setup up and can't wait to get the interior redone so we can get the wrap on it installed and get-er rolling again. And I'm thinking of replacing all the widows to double pane tilt outs.
Looking for some good times with this one out in the Boondocks.
I am impressed!! And here I thought you were just a software geek lol!! Your video production skills are also commendable.
Thanks Laurie! Just trying to break that "old dog new tricks" mold and never stop learning 😎
Thanks for the refresh video.
You bet!
This was a very well put together and helpful video, thanks so much for putting it all together!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent review. We have 1,800 AH LIFePO4 12V battery, 2,400 watts of solar, and 2 Victron Multiplus II inverters powering an all electric 2022 Newmar London Aire coach. It's a game changer. It provides 50 amps of power to the entire coach. We decided to go with a professional install because of 30% tax credit, 5 year warranty, 3 year tech support, and OEM like integration with Silver Leaf. We're very impressed with your engineering capability and thoughtful design. Should you decide to go with another inverter for a total of 6000 inverter watts, you can use two 4/O cables in tandem to handle the heat.
Thanks for sharing your approach to your setup. So far our inverter is working well for us especially after installing a 12V A/C. That's going to be the next story coming soon.
INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS ON FG ROOF:
1) 1 1/2” galvanized Unistrut painted white on sides and top. NO PAINT on bottom so VHB tape will adhere.
2) Area where Unistrut will be mounted should be thoroughly wiped clean with acetone. Do same with Unistrut.
3) Unistrut is mounted to roof with 1 1/2” wide VHB tape. (18” strip at front and back plus 24” strip in center.)
4) He caulked all along the edges and front and back edges of Unistrut with Sikaflex.
5) Holes were drilled into Unistrut at each corner and then he installed Rivnuts.
6) To attach solar panels to Unistrut he made L angles out of aluminum L angle material.
Thanks!
Thanks a bunch! I appreciate the support 😃
Hello Tito.
My name is Lindsay White and I'm 69 years old. I'm very interested in joining the RV life. I follow you and you are one of my favorite RUclips channels.
In the Military, I was a Fuel & Electrical Systems Specialist.
Please let me help with a Powerful Suggestion:
1. Great Solar should be secondary.
2. Primary Power should be DC to DC charging. The GC3 battery BMS, is rated for 300 amp hours continuous. Meaning you can charge them with a lot of power. That's extremely powerful!!
3. You should use your Diesel engine to supply power to your RV! Especially when you're on the go and the weather is bad. You could do it quite safely and efficiently.
4. MY SUGGESTION; to get a secondary Alternator install professionally. Perhaps a BALMAR XT-Series 250 Amp/12 Volt Alternator. Set up TWO Victron Orion XS 12/12-50A DC-DC Battery Charger. That will give you 100 amp hours of power going into your batteries as you move from area to areas. Or you can just idle your Diesel Engine when you're low on power.
Nate from Explorer's Life shows people how to set up two DC to DC chargers.
God Bless you 🙏
Tito, I have watched your videos for years and have learned a TON. Thank you. I have to ask, given the vast array of skills you have and knowledge….What do/did you do for work? You’re not the average DIYer - I know from the Snap On tools you use. I’m really impressed with all that you know and do.
Your planning and hard work has paid off with a well done system that fits your carefully identified needs. Well done!
Thanks! Yes it has paid off. We love it.
Thank You Brian! As usual, very helpful video, and the quality of work you do inspires, and is such a great example. Always enjoy your videos and the craftsmanship you share.
Thank you so much Daniel. It's very much appreciated.
Very nice job! One fo the cleanest I have seen. Great work!
Thanks! I appreciate that.
This is art.
Glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully there were some takeaways for you to try. 👍
I just finished a redesign of my camper. I came across your video this afternoon looking for some info on transfer switches and Multiplus II inverters. I currently have 4 - 100W solar panels on my camper and would like to upgrade to 1K - 1.5K. I think I will have to make some changes to be able to get the remaining solar panels on top of my camper. I just downloaded your plans. Thanks for the great content and sharing of information.
Get as much solar as you can fit....just sayin :) Good luck with the project.
Another nice job and great communication!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Make sure you keep the roof sealed especially the radiuses! Winnebago has no structure in their roofs so you have to be very careful with them!!
Yes. Did that as soon as we got this RV 👍
Great video as always. Thanks Don
I appreciate that Don. 👍
@@RVwithTito did you finally fix the issues you got while in Mexico. hit by a boat on land. :)
@@daviscrt No. Not yet. We're still in Mexico but I've been working with the Insurance companies to make sure it's all good to go when I get it fixed back in the US.
I love Unistrut, you can mount anything and everything too it. Nothing like using the pepe cap ( grandpa cap) on the pickup as a platform. I wish I had your money to do all of this to my new 5th wheel, I just want to put in more solar and a few more batteries and an inverter.
I love unistrut too and use it for lots of things. I was able to save a fortune by buying an old RV which freed up money for this and other upgrades. Of course, doing the work myself saved a ton.
Very nice video and great information! Thanks!
You're welcome!
I'm using 4 Victron MPPT with my 4 - 440W panels. I found the 4 MPPTs were cheaper than 1 or 2 larger MPPTs.
Yes. That was my experience also. Plus if any of them go down, you've got spares. Not that I've ever had a Victron controller failure in many years.
Excellent content.. i did a system similar to this with off grid cabin a 5000 watt system.
I purchased an older dp coach and wanted to do solar on it, but was wondering if leaving the converter set up as is and just send the the charg controllers directly to the batteries. Would this cause problems ??? Just trying to sort things out in my mind. Thank
Very unique design for setting everything up. Very cool! But would trying run two air conditioners on hot days over load that low watt inverter while boondocking?
Thanks. I installed a 12V AC last year which takes the inverter out of the equation. Before that we would only run a single compressor at a time. If two A/C units were necessary we would either run our generator or move to a cooler boondocking location.
Can you show how you fabricated the side clamps for your panels shown at 14:46? I can mostly figure out how to build the end pieces but those are throwing me off. I'm trying to do a similar build on the roof of my cargo camper
Bryan, my total solar setup including 20 ft rooftop aluminum bridge was $10,240
In home solar installations, solar panels are mounted about 3" above the roof.
This is for air flow to keep the panels cool. Hotter panels produce less electricity.
Tito's mounts look to be about an inch, which is better than the flush mounting I see on most RV's.
Still, I would go for a higher mount.
Nice job, I'm planning on installing thin flexible panels on top of my semi. And i was planning on covering the entire backside with vhb . But after seeing what you did i real wonder how much i need ?
Tito, you are amazing!!! Thanks for the great video on such a nice system you put together.
You're welcome!
Great video, could you share what you used to mount your inverter? We have a similar setup and and have a wall to mount it, with some back open space.
This is an amazing resource! Thanks for putting this together. One question comes to mind. On my truck camper I plan to have as many panels as possible. What would you suggest for making the panels flush (frame to frame)? Could you do the same thing with the nut rivets but on the under part of the panel? Or perhaps do it exactly how you did it but flip that L bracket to the inside of the panel? Not sure how that can be done. Any ideas?
Nice video and breakdown of your design. I keep thinking about adding a bigger solar system to my RV, but have been procrastinating.
How is the air conditioning working that you designed and built?
Thanks. The A/C is working good. I'll put a video out soon on that.
Does the inverter have the "assist" feature to help by sharing loads with the land line/generator feed? In other words, you could use the AC on a 15 amp shore cable and the inverter will supplement the incoming power with its own.
Yes. The power assist is very useful. I use it all the time. I don't even use 50A power anymore. Instead I just plug in an extension cord into a 15A receptacle and set the power assist max on the Multiplus to 10A. That's enough for the inverter to charge at 120A DC. We have a large 5500W generator. So I typically ramp it up to 40-50A when running the generator. If you're using a small portable generator, then YES use the power assist to set a lower max of 10-15A. Hope that helps.
What a terrific instructional video. What the tool you use to insert those threaded inserts?
Great video as always, thanks. Why did you go with 12v? I went with 24v so I have less amps in the wires when I run my mini-split.
My battery configuration partially dictated that decision. I didn't have room for a fourth battery. It all worked out. Another reason (doesn't apply to me though) is that you wouldn't be able to use a alternator DC-To-DC charger if you wanted.
Hey, Brian. Love your channel and love this video. That's a great design. I want to do something very similar, but I'm going to take it in stages. First stage is changing out my lead acid batteries for lithium. Stage two will be adding solar. I downloaded your equipment list and see that the Epoch 460 can be substituted. I've been looking at those and have watched your review. If I go with the Epoch 460, is there anything in your equipment list that I won't need because it's already built into the battery? Thanks for your advice.
Mounting section brilliant! Where did you source your stainless steel for the brackets?
Those taller brackets were from an old solar panel set and mount someone gave me years ago. You could probably find some stainless angle stock on ebay and cut them down. www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-Steel-Angle-304-Grade-Various-Size-1-meter-LONG-/282515593443?_ul=IN
Hi Tito. I didn't see an answer to the question below about why you're not using the converter in order to top off your batteries. Seems like a no-brainer to take advantage of that power while you're driving.
Did you mean dc-to-dc? If so the reason is because I use my generator which will cause the inverter to charge at 120A instead.
@RVwithTito yes, as in alternator battery charging. Seems it would be worthwhile to have the alternator charging while driving. Running the generator to charge or pass-through when batteries are low would be burning gas. Am I missing something?
I'm a first-time viewer of your channel. Great video. Why did you decide not to have any DC-to-DC charging from the chassis alternator? My thought is that, on a cloudy or rainy travel day, it would be nice to arrive with fully charged batteries. Also, while not very efficient, it would be a backup to the backup.
Glad you found us! The reason is that I can just fire up the generator and charge the batteries at 120A...much faster than DC-to-DC.
Do you have a description of the exact rivet nuts and sizes? Thank you for the great video. I'll be installing a 300w panel on top of my toy hauler. Thank you!
Check here: www.rvwithtito.com/parts/rv-solar-power I use 1/4 x 20 for just about everything.
@@RVwithTito and those look no longer than 1" bolts?
As always, great work Brian
Thanks! I appreciate that.
Tito good video if you can help me I want to do diagram for my project. What program you use do it? Thanks
I could not find a good diagram tool that dis what I needed so I used my regular graphics editing software (Affinity Designer) and drew it from scratch. I had more flexibility that way.
Brian, have you done any upgrades to gray or fresh water capacity in your ultimate boondocking machine?
No upgrades needed. We have 90 gal of fresh water and a composting toilet. So we could double our gray capacity if necessary.
Nice, well thought out system. Question, why did you choose 12v over say 48v? I see you only used 3 batteries so I know it would have taken a 4th battery or just use 2 instead of 3.
Wanted to keep it simple and remain compatible with external auxiliary equipment (ext water pump, power washer, chassis battery charger) and my new 12V air conditioner. Doing so would require a separate dedicated high amperage converter and busbar. Yes, plus the 3 battery limitation. 24V or 48V would need another battery for which there was no space.
I probably missed it but what gauge is the unistrut?......14ga??
Thanks for the educational video. Did you happen to weigh your class A before and after the solar/battery upgrade? It seems like you added a lot of weight.
No I didn't, but I did remove a 300lb air conditioner, two tube TVs, and two lead acid batteries :) Here are some weights though. Solar panels are 50lbs each (x4), Batteries are 80lbs each (x3), the inverter is roughly 30lbs. So I guess that comes to around 550lbs total (includes Strut Channels).
Hello! Can you tell me, please-how much did you spend for all of this solar equipment including solar panels? I love your set up!!!!!
@Tito - I want to upgrade my flex solar panels with rigid solar panels on my 2020 Airstream Nineteen. I'm wondering if I can use the heavy duty VHB tape and and some brackets to secure the panels and use this tutu rial as a guide to complete the upgrade.
It should work and with the metal roof, you'll be able to add a couple of mounting bolts to secure the strut channel even better. The only issue I see is that it's a curved roof. So you'll have to install taller mounting brackets (at least on the inner mount) to lift the panel above the curve. I'd do some measuring and testing first. The solar panel size makes a difference as well.
Super clean mounting system for those panels. I'm going to try something similar. The sidewalls on my solar panels are something like 1/4" thick which seems too thick for the rivnuts I have.. Did you need to use extra deep rivnuts?
Didn't need thicker ones. The middle of the frame where I put the hole is thinner.
I see what you mean.. Mine have a double-wall extrusion. The corners have some kind of insert in the chanel probably to secure the corners. Rivnuts installed, aluminum strut channel attached, and panels mounted! Thanks!
Hi Tito, do you still have the class c motorhome?
No. We sold it back in 2022. It's still rolling around out there off-grid and in the wild :)
Nice job!!! Did you paint the wire loom white?
Thanks
Thanks. Not painted. I found some white loom here amzn.to/3KPbXpg
Thanks for getting back so soon. I just put a 100 watt panel on my enclosed trailer and only have about a foot of wire showing, so I put black wire loom on it. I have so much of the loom that I just used some. I think I will put some aternabond tape over it.
@pkk6428 I've painted the black one before, but over time it starts to flake off.
Brian, been following your channel for a long time. On the solar panel rails what is a good way to mount them on a roof of thin plywood and foam. I just resealed it with the Tropicool silicone so the 3m tape won’t work. Thanks!
Are those wind deflector really make a difference? I have 200 watts panel with 6 heavy duty brackets with 24 lag screws per panel with about 1/3 tube of dicore on each bracket. Problem is I am not on the frame in each one but it's a brand new RV. I am hoping to add wind deflector to mass a bit of safety. I even wanted to add a wire strap just as another layer of safety. Am I over doing this you think?
How do I go about removing the generator? & rerouting the components attached? Is it pretty straight forward or is there a diagram somewhere that I can read up on
Didn't you have to install a dc to dc charge controller for the vehicle's alternator to charge the batteries also?
I could of, but didn't need it. I just fire up the generator while driving and recharge at 120A. I don't often need to though.
Two questions about the junction box on the roof and multiple controllers. Given the fact that you have a charge controller for each panel, I'm assuming that the junction box on the roof is just a service point for each run. The wires for each solar panel are not being connected in that box at all. They essentially go straight down to the controllers, correct?
Secondly, do you have any specific customizations on the controllers so that they don't compete at all, such as disabling the equalization or any other settings like float?
Thank You!
Brian
Love your video so helpful.Could you please send contact info where did you buy you solar panels. Thank you..Maria and Gary
SanTan Solar. Here's a link rvwithtito.com/santansolar
They sell used solar panels and the inventory will vary.
Where do you get the power for the inverter, charge controller and other equipment? Do you have a dedicated circuit in the panel? My equipment is going under the bed in our TT and there is no electric nearby.
where do you buy your Sunpower solar panels? I have a catalogue but list of suppliers in North America. Thanks :)
Did you always have DIY on your channel name or did you add that? I don't remember seeing it and I've been watching since around the time you took the couch out of your old RV.
I added that a few years ago.
So why didn’t you go to 24 V?😮🤔🤷♂️
With all the holes down the center of that track, you're just not going to collect water in there. Should have left some slight drainage
Question: Did you pick a Victron 3000W or a 5000w inverter? I have a 1999 Winnebago 50amp, generator with two ac units, but I only would only run one ac unit at a time. My refrigerator is 120v ac or propane.
Thanks again for another great video. South Florida.
I'm using the 3000W. It has served us very well. These are also low frequency inverters that can handle power surges quite well.
@RVwithTito i am wanting to go with the 3000W inverter, 6000amp batteries and 1450W solar. Thanks
Is there aluminum strut channel available?
Yes there is. It's a bit more expensive though.
Hello Brian, I just wanna let you know. I’ve been a subscriber for years and the other day I went to look on RUclips see if you had any new videos and it turns out somehow you had become unsubscribed and not by me just thought I’d let you know thank you for your videos.
Would it not be much easier to buy a solid power generator
We're probably more interested in the AC you installed.
BTW in that motorhome if you haven't checked and replaced the fluid in the emergency brake housing behind the transmission you need to. There's only about 3 ounces of fluid between total destruction and those are almost impossible to find. Don't ignore it 😮
I'm working on a similar video about the 12V A/C soon. We've been using it and it's working great. I'll have to check that fluid. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks!
You really need some main power supply fusing in your system
There's a 400A T fuse between the batteries and inverter.
Hello how can I balance my lipo4 400ah batteries without taking battery apart I think 1 cell is throwing all the other cells off ?
Not sure. The BMS in the battery should be keeping the cells balanced. If you have a bad cell, then you'd have to take it apart anyway. I'd contact the manufacturer and let them know.
@@RVwithTito It's the LiTime Lifepo4 12v 400ah battery cost was $1300 if you can look it up maybe you can tell what's in it I been following you for years now and I know you are very experienced
Brian it looks like you have it as a 12 volt battery system why not 48 volt ?
I wanted to keep it at 12V for this size. Also I would need 4 of those batteries to do either 24V or 48v. I only had room for 3.
What is "ruuf"?
why not a 48v system
what was your total cost for everything
About $13K ballpark
Those are LARGE pannels.
Ever heard of any pannels falling off in transit?
Yes. I've heard stories. These haven't budged in years and I've been through it all. In fact, they are heavy enough that without even being fastened down, they don't move.
@@RVwithTito Thats great. Thanks for the reply.
This is a re-upload you posted this content years ago
You're correct for most of it. A lot of folks only saw parts of the project and suggested I do a single video that covered it all. So there you go.
Laying the uni strut directly on the roof and caulking all around.. risky. Holding water in open oblongs, without a place to weep.
To each their own..
I live in Florida, massive rain and humidity.
Just saying
The tracks are not sealed all the way down. There are two gaps in the middle for the purpose of drainage. We live in Washington...rains all the time. 😃
Have you tried GuiMods out for your Cerbo ?
No. All I've done is change the logo. For now, the UI works well enough for me.
@@RVwithTito with guimods it will show power output from each individual panel on the main summary screen. (If you one of the want to know kinda people)
The current display now shows each controller in the PV block.