I’ll be doing this tomorrow! For the time being, I stripped about 12 inches from a piece of coax cable and did a channel scan and picked up 72 channels. I can’t wait to see what I get when I get an actual antenna on the roof.
Wow You already have quite a few channels, I believe I only had about 23 channels before i tried this. I am curious how many channels you will get afterwards. Keep me posted:)
One piece of advise, I had many people write me to tell they had to turn the antenna to face the TV Towers, I got lucky and I did not have to turn the antenna a different direction.
I'm gonna do just like you did, it looks so easy and I know it will work, going to use the dish previously installed on the roof. This is the easiest best video on hooking this stuff up, appreciate it!
Glad it worked. The only thing Ill add is the satellite in the sky and the local tv antennas are in 2 totally different spots (most of the time), unless the satellite companies are lying to us. But seriously they are pointed in 2 different directions usually. I have plans on using my satellite pole to mount mine to as well. But the dish is pointing south west and the antennas here are south east from my location. So this is a good idea to get your antenna up high with good reception and a free mount but I do believe the directions will be different in most cases.
I just cancelled my satellite service and bought an outdoor antenna. I will be giving your design a shot and I will update my comment to indicate the results. Thank you for the video.
@@jaredstone9487. Oh thank you so very much. I installed my antenna on my dish but had to point my dish toward some repeater antennas for my best reception. Leaving it facing towards a satellite didn’t work for me. But I did get enough channels to keep us happy and won’t have to pay $90 a month anymore . That made us really happy. I picked up 42 channels
Don't waste your time video is fake and even if it wasn't your stealing channels I don't know if it's still count if you don't have Dish or not but I would assume so since you're taking it from their satellite if it was possible
Having been an installer for a satellite provider, I about piss myself laughing every time i see one of these. HOWEVER, this is not as goofy as it sounds. I set up an antenna on a dish in the same basic manner, got it aimed in the best signal direction for the channels I wanted, and eliminated all of the interference caused by matching, weaker channels coming from the opposite direction. The dish DOES do a good job BLOCKING unwanted back signals. That's about ALL it does.
In my case, besides being a good place to mount an OTA antenna (so long as you have line of site to the towers) and coax readily available, if you have a cluster of towers on the same frequencies coming from the opposite direction, the dish works great as a blocker to them interfering with your frequencies of choice. In our case our Tampa stations and Orlando stations are almost directly 180 degrees opposite each other, but Tampa is closer and stronger and the dish completely eliminated ALL of the interference of the Orlando channels.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the satellite dish is pointed at a particular satellite orbiting the earth your new metal antenna will need to be pointed at the strongest TV station frequency which most likely won't be facing the sky
There is also a power supply that supplies the LNA that has to be removed and you’re right about the positioning I’ve never heard of picking up satellites on an antenna.
I think thera are a lot of mistakes in your antenna installation. I believe you were simply lucky. To check it just install your antenna in the same direction but without the dish. I believe you you will have almost the same result. There are more mistakes but i cannot explain them here. The truth is - and i thank you for that - you gave me an very nice idea! i'll try it!
Such a great idea! I wonder if pointing at the TV towers might be better than pointing at the satellites? No matter for you though - 83 channels (and still nothing to watch).
Pull the dish off and use the existing J pole to mount the antenna, it's just a few nuts to loosen and it slips off. The metal dish will affect the reception of the TV channels and not in a good way. Use Antennasdirect locater tool to aim the antenna. The "better tv antenna" linked is junk as it's mostly plastic and plastic doesn't pull in RF, plus plastic gets brittle and falls apart in a few years. The first one is ok. Personally recommend the "Amazon Basics HDTV Digital Outdoor TV Antenna" (Not the plastic amplified one). The Antennas Direct 2, 4, or 8 element antennas works great for pulling in signals from far away, however they are much more expensive and if you have any VHF channels (lower frequency) in your area you will need the VHF Kit.
This idea works great for me. I rent a house and not allowed to mount a antenna outside but because this old satellite dish on a pole remains I can however mount an aerial antenna to the dish and since that has a wire feeding into the house I won’t have to drill any holes for a new wire to go into the house. i’ve been using a window antenna and it does not work at all Half of the time but this work out great! Thanks
Chaz that is awesome, I am glad it worked for you. To be honest I did this for the same reason, I did not want to drill holes into my house so the Satellite dish wire enabled me to do this without the holes. Thanks for the comment:)
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So does the dish actually focus transmissions onto the antenna to enhance reception or is it just being used as a a mount? You absolutely must aim the antenna at the borodcast antennas.
Bunch of negative nellies here. My next door neighbor did this and attached a similar antennae to her DirecTV dish. The coax was already in the house and connected to her TV so no need to run all that mess. The dish simply served as a mounting point, nothing more. Yes, they had to find tune the antennae to point in the correct direction of the over the air signal, not satellite signal which the dish was pointed at. There are multiple apps that you can put on your phone to search for signals and position the antennae that way. I guess some people are not old enough to remember the days of no cable and all you had was an old antennae that when you hooked it up it was nothing like this. You only got 3 local channels because that was all there was. VHF(ABC, NBC) AND UHF(CBS). I live in Tennessee and can get 45+ channels with my indoor antennae hooked to my TV's, however depending on which way my TV is facing it gets different signals. This idea is so much simpler and same signal will go to all TV connected. Just because he did not show you how he did something is no reason to say this is total BS. Go watch some other RUclips videos and some of them have that detail.
The reflector of a satellite dish is not going to aid a UHF VHF antenna in the slightest. If you don't want to take the dish down, just replace it's LNB with a $9 FTA lnb and get yourself a FTA reciever box for $40. You can tune to a bunch of satellites using KU band as the dish is made for.
Interesting way to do it. I had to install a J pole on the opposite side of the house from where the satellite dish was located, because the signals all come from the other side of the house. When they point a dish, it has nothing to do with local channels, and everything to do with where the satellites for their service is located.
Thank you for posting this. I was searching for a video to hook up my antenna to existing wires from my dish. I am not familiar with any of this so watching your video proved a valuable find for me 😁 I am so tired of paying the fees when I don't watch that much.
Hi Redmare I am glad my video was help to you. I have another video showing how to get thousands of free channels if you would like to see it. ruclips.net/video/6p1sKRF7hGM/видео.html
While I am on antenna, there are some misconceptions in this video. You are only going to get as many channels as are available in your area. I only get 30 channels because that is the amount available.
My main concern would be whether or not the antenna is grounded. I’m assuming the satellite dish is, after professional installation. Here, the same cable is connected to the antenna, so, would it be grounded?
I may or may not be. If he is connecting it to the same coaxial cable that the sat dish uses then it probably is. Coax is usually gorunded through the splitter that comes from the antenna or sat dish and splits into the whole house. If you are only connecting to one TV then there are grounding blocks that can be used. Super cheap and easy to install. Just like a splitter but it's 1-1 pass through with a screw to connect a grounding wire just like on the splitter.
An external antenna errected higher than the tallest part of your roof (including a chimney) in addition to free streaming services like pluto tv, xumo, and stirr is more than sufficient.
I thought a satellite dish is pointed towards the satellite (towards the sky) and the shape of the dish direct the signal towards the reciever? If so, then shouldn't the dish now be directed towards the horizon and in the direction of a TV tower? (dallas in my case) Seems to me that it would work better.
Amen. The dish itself does nothing to improve the signal or bring in more signals, it will however block weaker, interfering signals coming from other direction that can reduce the quality of the signals you are trying to pick up. It acts as an isolation deviece.
I recommend a professional antenna installer or maybe a ham radio operator. There is a lot Todd understood about antennas and the behavior of the transmitted signal. And these new TVs that are super slow to show results of adjustments.
Just use the antenna that was used 20 years ago. You will be surprised what it picks up. I would remove the dish and use a telescoping mast and use a UHF antenna you can also add elements to pick up VHF with little problems. If you are close enough to the stations you can pick up most stations. Some are weaker than others and you may need a booster amplifier I found that out my booster amplifier wasn't on I did a rescan after I turned on the booster amplifier and got three times as much stations. My antenna is in the attic because we get lots of storms and the sun is hard on the plastic on the antenna. The Florida sun is hard on antenna hardware. Even the cables get dry rotted if left out in the sun. 73
I agree he just got lucky that the local TV tower that transmitts just happened to be in that direction you may have to adjust antenna to find your local TV tower
For those that claim it has nothing to do with it. The dish is the reflector that asks as the ground plane to reflect the signal back to the antenna. It works the same way as when the LAN is on it getting SAT TV. Notice the LAN is not facing the southwest sky but the dish is because the dish reflects the signal back.
I have a degree in electronics and experience installing satellite TV. This will eliminate any satellite reception and about 1 in 36 chance that you will have your antenna pointed in the right direction. You would be well off to remove the satellite dish to eliminate wind loading.
The aerial on its own will pull in from your local TV transmitter WITHOUT the dish. The LNB you took off picks up signals from the dish from the satellite. Two different methods of broadcast. There are three types for TV. Satellite, Cable and Terrestrial / over the air. Satellite and terrestrial work on different frequencies
It's more important to point the antenna at the broadcast towers than the direction your dish is pointed. You got lucky that your broadcast towers are likely south of you. My towers are north and west of me. If I pointed my antenna south I wouldn't pick up any stations, because there are no broadcast towers at sea.
Can you explain how can have 2 reflectors. The dish is a reflector and the large element of the antenna is other reflector. In addition to his can a reflector for milimétric waves be usefull for decimetrica waves like the digital TV. If you have good signal strength in your area with a fish hook and a wire you can receive this decimetric signals. The sat dish is useless in this configuration.
Hi Juan, I am not exactly sure if the satellite dish itself is helping me. I do know I am getting way more channels with the antenna on the dish. My main objective was to use the dish cable going into my house so I can get reception in all my rooms of my house. It worked great
Or you can remove the dish and use the J pole already there holding the Dish. I just removed mine, but plan to increase the J pole height with another pole.
Thanks man! I will try on my camper with the dish on the house.Just got rid of Dish.They ripped me off.I bet I will get more channels and good mounting point.I also see on other videos you can remove the 3 bolts on stick of satellite stand and you can move dish 360.Off the grid in woods it should help.💯💥
Hey buddy, I just wanna thank you for taking the time to help those that don't have the slightest idea on how to help themselves. Obviously you are not an electronics guru but you had an idea and acted on it, and it worked to some extent. That's a hell of allot better than slow roll criticizing what you've done and trying to offend you with disparaging remarks. Those types reveal way more about themselves by doing that than they could ever know. Being curious and experimenting is how we figure shit out. Anyway, good job.
Jack I want to thank you for the nice message, And yes you are right I do get some hateful remarks, My main goal of this experiment was to see if I could use the Satellite cable to get reception from the Antenna to all the rooms in my house, and it worked, and the 80 channels was just a bonus, not sure if the dish helped with this or not but again it was a bonus.. But for some reason some people feel the need to lash out at me. I know there are always going to be haters out there and Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But again I appreciate your message. :)
Hello Ralph, yes I am not sure how much the dish is helping, but my main purpose for doing this was to use the coaxial cable from the dish to get reception to all the rooms in my house. I can say I got a lot more channels after hooking the antenna to the dish.
I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt. If the original satellite installer was good, he grounded the cable during installation. Follow the cable from the dish to where it enters the house, if there is a coupler with a wire sent to ground before it goes in the house, you're good. If not, just search on how to splice a ground in on google or youtube. You'll figure it out ;)
It depends on where you live. But if you're near any medium or large city you will receive ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and probably some local channels. Plus, all the major networks have sub channels.
So, once I get the coax from the dish and hook it up to the antenna, do I need to connect or disconnect anything where the existing directv goes into the house? It looks like I have 4 cables that are connected to a plate on side of house.
Hey I work on satellite dishes like this, I have a few notes. Firstly, this goes without saying but you should only do this if you are no longer using that dish for TV service. This would cut of the signal from the satellite. The dish is pointed to the specific position of the satellites in orbit and not pointed towards the towers that the local channels come from. The OTA signal for your local channel stations come from a tower on the ground somewhere in your city. Generally speaking satellite dishes in the US will be pointed to the south. The OTA local channel towers are generally in the middle of the city you live in. So if you live on the south side of town you'd probably want swing the dish around to the north. The best thing to do is look up a map online of there the local channel towers are and just point that direction. You should be able to use the existing wire from the satellite to your TV, but you want to avoid any diplexers or splitters that are specific to the satellite company. you might want to replace any those those with a barrel connector or standard cable splitter. Best thing to do is trace the wire down and make sure you have as direct of a connection to the tv as possible.
To know where to point the antenna there are Android phone apps to show you where the towers are. One is antenna point or DTV antennas. Using the satellite cable is good because is already set up to the interior of the house, but if anything keep the dishes "J" pole, can always mount the antenna on that.
I live in NE Texas in the country and I have a basic air antenna thats mounted 30' high and facing SE (my only option) and I get only 8 channels facing Tyler but on a good day maybe 13 some signals coming out of Shreveport. There's no way you would get that many channels using the direction of a former Sat service. Chances are you live in a large city that may have 7 local stations. It is a known fact that digital stations lower their power in the evenings which lessens the strenght of said signal. And on windy days or during storms Im lucky to get 3 channels. So for what you are saying I have to call BS on it.
2 questions: 1. how many stations would you get without the Dish antenna normally? and 2. The Dish would have been pointed optimally for Satelite reception, not aerial readio frequency, so how since making the video have you found a better direction for your reception??
what I was looking for was using the dish as a antenna reflector its not hooked up to your outdoor antenna its reflecting the signal to the antenna to make it stronger I was looking for a video to see if it actually works.( using a dish as a reflector.)
The only part of this video that is correct is that you can put up an antenna and get free over the air tv but the dish doesn't help any. The dish pointed up toward the satellites it picked up the signal from so if you picked up stations in the direction the dish pointed you were just lucky the stations happened to be in that direction. I would expect that the dish behind the antenna would reflect the signal causing signal cancellation.
Notice the shape of the dish, which is designed to get a signal from one direction and amplify it VS. the shape of the antenna which is designed to get signals from any direction. SMH at the people who fell for this. The dish is off and doing nothing but acting as a mount point (and he is reusing it's wires).
@@zathras11b53 He said to position the antenna in the same direction as the dish because the people that put in the dish knew which direction to get the best signal. Satellite dish is pointed at the satellite which has nothing to do with the direction Over the air stations come from. OTA stations can come from many directions or one direction depending only on what direction the tower the signal is coming from. I live in an area where stations come from multiple directions. He was just lucky that pointing the antenna in the direction the dish mount was in happened to be close enough to the right direction that it worked well for the stations he got but He might have been able to get more stations if he had a rotor to point the antenna at other stations. This depends on whether the stations he could pick up all came from one major city rather than multiple citys.The tv antenna he used is directional and is not designed to pick up stations from all directions which is why rotors are used to point the antenna at the tv tower the station is coming from. I have a round tv antenna that is supposed to pick up stations in all directions but it doesn't do as well in some directions even after turning it to work as well as possible.
The dish is no longer connected to the tv. The antenna is pulling in the stations from the towers not the satellite. The number of stations vary depending on the terrain and the tv stations in your area. All he did was use the cable which goes to all the tvs in your house.
Depends on where the majority of ota antennas are relative to your houses location will be the determination of if you have to move the dish. Where I live the dish points south and the OTA antenna is nw. One has nothing to do with the other so the statement you made that you won't have to move it is incorrect!
I like that this guy actually commented on questions that are TRUE scientific facts... Satellite dishes are pointed to guess what? Omg satellites...... Let's then turn this 🎶 music up.... Sorry some know the song so play it! I like it! Anyway tv antenna don't work that way ..BUT Wait! Don't move the satellite dish that's stupid not yet anyways..... See what you get for channels first then figure out where your most populous city is close to you and that's that antennas are usually on the hills around those cities but don't do that first I think the satellite dish itself gives a lot of reception behind the antenna ... More metal works
You're really just using the satellite mast to hold your OTA antenna. You still need to point the OTA antenna towards the broadcast towers. I just removed the dish entirely and used the mast to mount the antenna... and positioned it.
It's got to say thank you man for the great tip because I was trying to think about a way to mess with my old dish antenna and you gave me the perfect way to do it so thank you so very much keep doing what you're doing you're amazing man.
This doesn't work you can not point you ordinary TV antenna in space cuz my dish is mounted on the ground and pick up channels this does not work not here in Wisconsin evidently since you live in California you're pulling yours from the TV Tower you're not pulling them from space
I completed my task and attached an aftermarket TV antenna to my existing decommissioned Direct TV satellite dish. It was very easy and cost only a few bucks for some zip ties. I was able to use the antenna for my upstairs office TV as well because Direct TV had already run cables to each room in the house. I’m happy with the outcome and highly recommend this for anyone who wants to recycle their existing satellite dish.
God bless you brother! Brilliant! Genius and how rad you are to share this ….most people I know here in crappy Los Angeles…….never share cool ideas……. sharing is cari g bro! We salute u! Good luck from all over, in your life , is gifting you…………cheers bro! \m/-_-
Hello my friend I want to apologize for this late reply to your comment. I do not get on here everyday like I should. I appreciate your kind words and I am glad you liked my video. Cheers:)
I drove semi gone all week for 15 years, The first thing I did , when parking, is see if I could scan in some tv channels . I noticed if a semi was parked alongside me on the correct side it would act as a reflector and I would get more stations. Even some OTA antenna's have a wire grid for reflecting more signal back to the antenna. Now retired I use an old small dish network dish I purchased in 2005, sold at pilot truck stops back then . behind my out side antenna with out it channels aren't good enough in the day time to watch as I'm 45 miles out of a city
Hi Lawrence, I am not sure about the set up you have in Australia. Here we only have one coaxil cable going to the dish. You can maybe try one at a time or you can buy a splitter and hook both cables to it
Your dish will be pointed to the satalite's geo stationary orbital position. If that's the same direction as your broadcast towers you are lucky. I'm my case a direct tv or dish network dish would point south west but the broadcast tv towers are to the northwest where I live. I do like his use of the dish in the set up. It seems like it would work as a reflector to collect some additional signal for his antenna. The roof location is ideal as well.
Hello and thanks for the comment. Yes I do think the dish is giving me better signal, and hooking it up to the dish cable wire allowed me to get the channels in every room. It worked for me. Good luck:)
I think Michael is correct at his presumption of the dish being aimed at the satellites and the need to change its direction toward the transmitters of the over the air stations. Most area TV stations will use the same general location for the best broadcast signal.
@Matt Quinn I would have probably not done what he did but it worked for him. I would have taken the dish off and used the J pole mount the dish was on to mount the antenna and the cable. then aim to the correct azimuth for the broadcast towers.
Yes, he got lucky, the location of the geostationary sattelites and consequential orientation of the dish set up has nothing to do with what direction local OTA tv transmitters are located.
direct tv at my location points dish to the southwest. all my st. louis stations come from the south east at 126 to 142 degrees. so I would have to re orient my dish .
sigh! The Dish is pointed toward where the Dish Satellite is going to be while in geo-stationary orbit around the Earth. You want to point the TV Antenna in the direction of your local, earth-bound, TV Stations' towers. If they are in the same direction, you just got lucky... Also, this only works for every room in the house that has ALREADY BEEN WIRED to the dish antenna. Also, usually, only the X.1 channels are HD- all the sub-channels (X.2, X.3, X.4, etc...) are the older SD video resolution, and usually show older programming because of that. Lastly, if you are close enough, with little in the way of obstruction, you can get away with a cheap, no-name antenna- shoot, even using a coat hanger would work! But the further out you are, you are better off with a name-brand antenna, like Winegard or Antennas Direct. In this case, though, the Satellite Dish may be acting as a reflector for the TV antenna, so may be boosting the signal a small bit. As a side note- if you don't already have your home wired from a previous installation, you can also use something like a Tablo device, which has 2-4 built-in tuners, attaches to your TV antenna, then sends the OTA Signal to any streaming device you have connected to your TV (Roku, Firestick, etc...). The Tablo can also record OTA broadcasts with an optional Hard Drive.
Thanks for the heads up on Tablo. I've always read that the signal from OTA is "pure" and better than streaming. Will a Tablo take away some of that quality? (my video quality knowledge is minimal)
@@martinmuecke2791 No, the Tablo can be set up to stream and/or record at 720p or 1080. I like it, even with some minor issues. It loads slowly, to create a buffer for recording. You have to have an internet connection. The Guide is only 24 hours ahead for the free version- but the 2-week guide is for a lifetime subscription at least. There is also a 3rd party Windows Program that can pull the Tablo recordings from the hard drive and put them on your computer in an MP4 format. Some version of the Table come with a built-in hard drive, some you buy your own- I prefer the latter, as you can usually find a larger one for a little cheaper. Lastly, and this probably won't really be an issue for most, but they are coming out with a newer version that will have an ATSC 3.0 tuner, for latest broadcast standard that will roll out over the next few years.
The dish can be used as a reflector in that way, but that needs to be tuned to a specific channel frequency. Reflectors are good if tuned correctly, but reduce signal if tuned wrong. The tuning is simply the spacing between the driven element and the reflector (dish) to result in a constructive reflected signal. Note that high frequency UHF channels are rapidly disappearing and a dish reflector becomes less and less useful at lower frequencies. The dish can also be used to block an unwanted back side channel that causes interference.
wonderful to say! if i should connect any ordinary antenna to the dish shown, please what happen to my down converter? 2. would i also get signal from the provider again
Hello I would not recommend doing this unless you are done with cable. That being said, you will be disconnecting part of the satellite dish that recieves the cable signal so you would not be able to get cable signal this way. you can always reverse this procedure and get cable again if you decide you want to get cable again in the future.
Like mine , luckily the dish is pointed towards our broadcast stations 50 to 60 miles away . I put ours in my attic just to see how many channels we could get . When we drop dish network I’m moving the antenna to the where the dish is and using the cables that are already ran to each room in the house . I believe that’s what the poster wanted to show .
good job - cable tv bills keep going up - i have been told that you need a good outdoor antenna to pick up low power tv stations - that indoor antenna just will not pick it up - is that right ?
Not too sure the dish makes much difference. You got lucky that it was pointed at the TV over-air broadcast towers. Maybe it's just off a little bit and you might get more channels with some slight adjustment? We get over 100 channels here pointing straight at the towers about 70 miles out of Los Angeles. I think you're somewhere near Fresno?
The beauty of it is the dish is just a convenient mounting location: existing hard mount and existing cable already run straight to the TV. He will still be better off aiming it properly.
@@Dusdaddy Yeah. I've never paid for Cable or Satellite. Always used an antenna. In the days before digital it was antenna and home video. Now with streaming, it's antenna and streaming, but I won't buy any steaming services and get nickel and dimed to death.
I just use the same mast antenna that has been on my home since I bought in 1996. Using the dish is a good idea but I’m thinking the way the dish works is bounce the signal back to the antenna so I’m wondering if turning the mast antenna to face the dish would work better. I get 27 with the mast antenna but I have at least 3 dishes I’ve been thinking of adding to mast and cellphone booster antennas. Careful tho because if the signal is too strong you can burn up equipment. I live in the country where the signals suck but I don’t pay for tv or internet except for my cellphone reception. Without the booster I have very poor signal but with the booster and not using the dish I have up to 5g cell. My mast antenna also has an inline booster through a cable but I’m looking to turn my tv signal into wireless which I ‘m think may just as simple as hooking up an indoor antenna to wall cable and a simple antenna to the tv’s.
He’s not using the dish for anything except a convenient mount for his new over the air HD TV antenna and because the coax to carry the signal inside the house was already there. You’re reading too much into this video.
Ok that means you are not getting a good connection. Maybe try turning the antenna a different connection. One person commented that he has to turn his antenna a different direction for him to et a good connection. For me it works perfect going the same direction as the satellite dish.
Or you may not actually have a bad connection, and the antennas is just pointed the wrong way. Again, you don’t point antenna in the same direction as the dish. The antenna is pointed at the towers of the broadcast stations.
Satellite signals are on a different frequency than land over the air TV channels are. Satellite signals are much higher that bounce off the dish into the receiver at the middle. TV free tv channels are on a lower frequency that do not bounce instead penetrate so the dish isn't why you're getting the station. I have the same antenna you are using and it's a very good antenna.
Just use the coax wire and the mount from the dish. The dish is actually pointing to a satellite orbiting the earth, so it will not help with over-the-air signal. It may actually cause an interference with the signal.
Hi I Live in Northwestern Virginia and im kinda down in a dip and some tall trees are around me. Ive gotten free stations before on this same road , But I bought the house up the road from me and im having extrrme difficulty . However at my old house I had a medium tall antanae and that converter box. I have been stressing and trying to rig stuff all week long and im just about nuts here..lol im a woman nd im climbing up and down the ladder and moving everything and running back inside to scan....still nothing....plaease advise . ..lol my neighbors are starting to hate me because they wave everytime they go by and im frusterated and im sick of waving !!! Lol...Any advice I would appreciate . Thank You
Hi Tbug, I am not sure but maybe the tall trees are blocking your signal. Maybe you can try using a Roku Stick plus to get thousands of free stations. I have 2 other videos on showing the roku stick plus.. One is called how I got rid of cable and now I get thousands of free channels, this video will show you everything you can do with the Roku stick and the channels you can get. Then I have another video called roku stick install for tv, step by step. Also I have a link under the video showing the cheapest place to buy the Roku stick plus. Let me know how everything goes:)
Best to add a one to three foot pole to that mount to get the antenna high enough to eliminate any likely interference caused by the roof blocking the signals.
best about using Satelitte dish is u can use the cables for an ANT and if u do go back ..you'll have 2 cable lines to choose from ANT and SAT - as the new instillation provides new cables, and not allowed to use the old,is what im doing, plus when bad weather and SAt goes out, dish charges 12 a mth for local, so having an ANT saves that each mth ...DirectTv gives some local added to the charge, and only comes in if the SAT is working in good weather, dont pay ur bill Local channels are gone also, it pays to have an ANT installed, if nothing else use for your home FM/am stereo - edit thanks for sharing this, this is what ill be doing till Direct tv hooks me up next week, right now with Dish and they went up after 2 yrs, 40.00 overnight to 140.00 a mth- so switching back to Direct,for under 100.00 ... but if i can get used to the ANT channels I'm going to cancel Direct is my goal
Hi beatleme, It sounds like you are having the same issues I was having with them starting low and then raising up the price for cable TV. I found out how to get thousands of free channels for free. I have more channels now than I had with cable and I do not pay a dime. Checkout my other video called How I cut cable bill and now get thousands of free channels. You will never pay for TV again
@@ItsMe-rl7ex I went up under the house where they attached the ground on a clamp, I went to tighten it up, it shocked me like a 110 v !!.. It wasn't even tightened up, and the connectors was barely hand tightened and instead of drilling a hole in the floor they drilled into the side of the house and ran one cord that way for the living room, and tacked the wire with one U nail plastic clap thingie, the rest was just dangling on a round wad… I always get bad installers and have to fix, I learned how to fix everything, which is the positive I guess - but yes, U have to have that meter to get a good signal, it rains there goes the sat.. im sick of it and the expense..when Direct gets installed I will make sure to show me this time, thanks for the reminder :)
Hi Rob, yes I have had that same comment many times, I guess I got lucky because they were both in the same direction for me. You might have to turn it to get the best signal for you.
Hi it just worked out for me this way. I have since received hundreds of comments telling me the satelite is pointed different than the local channels. Good to know, Like I said it just worked for me this way. thanks for the comment
hey just to let you know you could be misleading people a bit not all transmitters are facing the same direction as the sat dish if theyhavent got a meter to measure the signal some neibours might have an aerail up go the same direction as them
@@Savajelyfe That is one thing you said that is 100% true. We (past tense for me) NEVER wanted the dish back and I'll tell you why...the next home owner might want service and boom there it is. Already mounted and just needs to be checked.
You’re totally incorrect on how to point that antenna. The satellite dish is pointed in the correct direction for satellite TV channels. The local channels unlike satellite channels aren’t being bounced off a satellite in space. For best reception, you’re supposed to point the antenna in the direction of the local stations’ broadcast towers. Also, there’s no point in actually keeping the dish. Just unbolt the entire dish off the dish mount and bolt the antenna there instead.
Actually he was clever of mounting it in front of the dish. As I have been experimenting with my old dish by putting an antenna in front of it, it actually boosts the signal significantly by reflecting it back to the antenna from behind. I thing he would actually loose alot of channels by removing the dish as it works as an reflector. He would probably get even more channels if he turned the antenna toward the direction they are broadcasting from.
@@thepicard83 but it also depends on your area. All of the towers in your area may be scattered around your location and the dish could "block" the signals from towers in that direction (reduce their strength, actually). So while it may be an advantage for towers that your dish is pointing towards, everyone's mileage may vary.
@Liquid Radio - You are entirely right. YouBoob is FULL of Useless Idiots like " Savaje lyfe" who post complete bull$hit and disinformation for narcissistic or profit reasons.
It was totally coincidental that your dish was pointed in the "correct" direction; your broadcast signals must be coming relatively from the south, assuming you live in the northern hemisphere (because that's where satellite antennas are pointed - toward the equator). It served no purpose other than to provide a place to mount your new antenna, which is pointing AWAY from the dish; the antenna was doing ALL the work.
HI SAVAJE LYFE, THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO CAN YOU TELL US WHERE I CAN BUY THE BRACKET AND THE PIPE(BLACK COLOR) AND WHAT TYPE OF ANTENNA; I CANT PAY THE CABLE I LOST MY JOB, THIS IS WHY I ASKING YOU ABOUT THE PARTS, THANKS
Hi Jamie I am so sorry for you job loss. It seems so many people are losing their jobs. The TV antenna I bought at walmart for around 50 dollars. It came with the bracket and everything you will need. I believe it was a GE pro outdoor antenna. I will also tell you if you buy a roku stick plus you can get thousands of free movie, sports, children channels and any kind of tv you can think of. More tv than you can ever watch for free. This is going to be my next video. Good luck
I used to install dishes all way to 3 meter size and spent 20 years as system tech with spectrum my RF KNOWLEDGE is rather extensive and all you did was added additional reflection/ focus element to your " cheap " Walmart antenna in a sense just amplifying the receivable channels the next advantage you have is you probably live in metro area or closely clustered cities In my case the closest transmit station is 80 miles away on the other side of glacier created rim or in a sense I live in deep bowl the closest city only has 4 net works ( with digital rulings each may have as few as 2 or three channels to 12 channels each due compression That " dish is not an active antenna just paraboliç reflector
The man just reinvented or updated/upgraded tv reception, congratulations!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻To the detractors, it works.
Hi Anon I just realized I do not think I ever thanked you for the awesome comment. That was definitely one of the best comments I have had. 😀
I’ll be doing this tomorrow! For the time being, I stripped about 12 inches from a piece of coax cable and did a channel scan and picked up 72 channels. I can’t wait to see what I get when I get an actual antenna on the roof.
Wow You already have quite a few channels, I believe I only had about 23 channels before i tried this. I am curious how many channels you will get afterwards. Keep me posted:)
One piece of advise, I had many people write me to tell they had to turn the antenna to face the TV Towers, I got lucky and I did not have to turn the antenna a different direction.
I'm gonna do just like you did, it looks so easy and I know it will work, going to use the dish previously installed on the roof. This is the easiest best video on hooking this stuff up, appreciate it!
Nick thanks for the comment and the compliment. Give it a try and let me know how it goes:)
2 years ago I suppose you learned this doesn't actually work huh.
Glad it worked. The only thing Ill add is the satellite in the sky and the local tv antennas are in 2 totally different spots (most of the time), unless the satellite companies are lying to us. But seriously they are pointed in 2 different directions usually. I have plans on using my satellite pole to mount mine to as well. But the dish is pointing south west and the antennas here are south east from my location. So this is a good idea to get your antenna up high with good reception and a free mount but I do believe the directions will be different in most cases.
I just cancelled my satellite service and bought an outdoor antenna. I will be giving your design a shot and I will update my comment to indicate the results. Thank you for the video.
Neat update
@@jaredstone9487. Oh thank you so very much. I installed my antenna on my dish but had to point my dish toward some repeater antennas for my best reception. Leaving it facing towards a satellite didn’t work for me. But I did get enough channels to keep us happy and won’t have to pay $90 a month anymore . That made us really happy. I picked up 42 channels
Don't waste your time video is fake and even if it wasn't your stealing channels I don't know if it's still count if you don't have Dish or not but I would assume so since you're taking it from their satellite if it was possible
@@higurashianduminekoconnect1702 Over the air TV is free. Not stealing anything. But you are correct in that this doesn’t work and the video is fake
Having been an installer for a satellite provider, I about piss myself laughing every time i see one of these. HOWEVER, this is not as goofy as it sounds. I set up an antenna on a dish in the same basic manner, got it aimed in the best signal direction for the channels I wanted, and eliminated all of the interference caused by matching, weaker channels coming from the opposite direction. The dish DOES do a good job BLOCKING unwanted back signals. That's about ALL it does.
He primarily used the dish for a mount but mostly to use the dish's coaxial which is already ran to his t v sets
What frequency
In my case, besides being a good place to mount an OTA antenna (so long as you have line of site to the towers) and coax readily available, if you have a cluster of towers on the same frequencies coming from the opposite direction, the dish works great as a blocker to them interfering with your frequencies of choice. In our case our Tampa stations and Orlando stations are almost directly 180 degrees opposite each other, but Tampa is closer and stronger and the dish completely eliminated ALL of the interference of the Orlando channels.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the satellite dish is pointed at a particular satellite orbiting the earth your new metal antenna will need to be pointed at the strongest TV station frequency which most likely won't be facing the sky
re point the dish fool
There is also a power supply that supplies the LNA that has to be removed and you’re right about the positioning I’ve never heard of picking up satellites on an antenna.
I think thera are a lot of mistakes in your antenna installation. I believe you were simply lucky. To check it just install your antenna in the same direction but without the dish. I believe you you will have almost the same result. There are more mistakes but i cannot explain them here. The truth is - and i thank you for that - you gave me an very nice idea! i'll try it!
Such a great idea! I wonder if pointing at the TV towers might be better than pointing at the satellites? No matter for you though - 83 channels (and still nothing to watch).
Thanks buddy, yes I had many people point that out. You are probably right. It just seemed to work for me to point it the same way as the dish
Q: you pointed antenna at the satellite that the dish was using and not in the direction of local broadcast towers?
Pull the dish off and use the existing J pole to mount the antenna, it's just a few nuts to loosen and it slips off. The metal dish will affect the reception of the TV channels and not in a good way. Use Antennasdirect locater tool to aim the antenna. The "better tv antenna" linked is junk as it's mostly plastic and plastic doesn't pull in RF, plus plastic gets brittle and falls apart in a few years. The first one is ok. Personally recommend the "Amazon Basics HDTV Digital Outdoor TV Antenna" (Not the plastic amplified one). The Antennas Direct 2, 4, or 8 element antennas works great for pulling in signals from far away, however they are much more expensive and if you have any VHF channels (lower frequency) in your area you will need the VHF Kit.
This idea works great for me. I rent a house and not allowed to mount a antenna outside but because this old satellite dish on a pole remains I can however mount an aerial antenna to the dish and since that has a wire feeding into the house I won’t have to drill any holes for a new wire to go into the house. i’ve been using a window antenna and it does not work at all Half of the time but this work out great! Thanks
Chaz that is awesome, I am glad it worked for you. To be honest I did this for the same reason, I did not want to drill holes into my house so the Satellite dish wire enabled me to do this without the holes. Thanks for the comment:)
the dish is positioned according to satellite position in space , not broadcast towers on the ground.
True, at has nothing to do with towers
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Hey I want to say thank you for the nice comment. I am glad I was able to give you some good ideas. 😃
So does the dish actually focus transmissions onto the antenna to enhance reception or is it just being used as a a mount? You absolutely must aim the antenna at the borodcast antennas.
Hello I am not sure if the dish is helping, I am no expert, I just know it worked for me
Thank you for trying. I am glad that it worked for you. I am anxious to get rid of this $262/mo. Direct TV bill.
Hi Hector, thanks for the comment, you have the same motivation that I had, I wanted to get rid of my tv bill.
Bunch of negative nellies here. My next door neighbor did this and attached a similar antennae to her DirecTV dish. The coax was already in the house and connected to her TV so no need to run all that mess. The dish simply served as a mounting point, nothing more. Yes, they had to find tune the antennae to point in the correct direction of the over the air signal, not satellite signal which the dish was pointed at. There are multiple apps that you can put on your phone to search for signals and position the antennae that way. I guess some people are not old enough to remember the days of no cable and all you had was an old antennae that when you hooked it up it was nothing like this. You only got 3 local channels because that was all there was. VHF(ABC, NBC) AND UHF(CBS). I live in Tennessee and can get 45+ channels with my indoor antennae hooked to my TV's, however depending on which way my TV is facing it gets different signals. This idea is so much simpler and same signal will go to all TV connected. Just because he did not show you how he did something is no reason to say this is total BS. Go watch some other RUclips videos and some of them have that detail.
Hello thank you for your comment :)
The reflector of a satellite dish is not going to aid a UHF VHF antenna in the slightest. If you don't want to take the dish down, just replace it's LNB with a $9 FTA lnb and get yourself a FTA reciever box for $40. You can tune to a bunch of satellites using KU band as the dish is made for.
Is there a video on RUclips on this?
Interesting way to do it.
I had to install a J pole on the opposite side of the house from where the satellite dish was located, because the signals all come from the other side of the house.
When they point a dish, it has nothing to do with local channels, and everything to do with where the satellites for their service is located.
Thanks man, I've seen these ads before but never knew how they did it. Again THANKS.
John you are very welcome, I am glad you enjoyed my video. God Bless
Thank you for posting this. I was searching for a video to hook up my antenna to existing wires from my dish. I am not familiar with any of this so watching your video proved a valuable find for me 😁
I am so tired of paying the fees when I don't watch that much.
Hi Redmare I am glad my video was help to you. I have another video showing how to get thousands of free channels if you would like to see it. ruclips.net/video/6p1sKRF7hGM/видео.html
While I am on antenna, there are some misconceptions in this video. You are only going to get as many channels as are available in your area. I only get 30 channels because that is the amount available.
Greg thanks for your comment:)
My main concern would be whether or not the antenna is grounded. I’m assuming the satellite dish is, after professional installation. Here, the same cable is connected to the antenna, so, would it be grounded?
I may or may not be. If he is connecting it to the same coaxial cable that the sat dish uses then it probably is. Coax is usually gorunded through the splitter that comes from the antenna or sat dish and splits into the whole house. If you are only connecting to one TV then there are grounding blocks that can be used. Super cheap and easy to install. Just like a splitter but it's 1-1 pass through with a screw to connect a grounding wire just like on the splitter.
My husband and I did exactly the way you showed. I am thrilled. Thank you.
Hi Kinney thank you for letting me know this worked for you. I am happy I could help😊
The dish isn't doing anything for you. It is off. The antenna is doing all the work. The headline is clickbait.
Just awesome, I recently dropped dish and been looking at options. Going the route you took, Thanks for sharing
An external antenna errected higher than the tallest part of your roof (including a chimney) in addition to free streaming services like pluto tv, xumo, and stirr is more than sufficient.
Thanks buddy, good luck
I thought a satellite dish is pointed towards the satellite (towards the sky) and the shape of the dish direct the signal towards the reciever? If so, then shouldn't the dish now be directed towards the horizon and in the direction of a TV tower? (dallas in my case) Seems to me that it would work better.
The sat dish is pointed at satellites, not local broadcast stations, so most people will need to re-aim the antenna to get local stations.
YES!, the dish points into space, the tv towers are lower...
Amen. The dish itself does nothing to improve the signal or bring in more signals, it will however block weaker, interfering signals coming from other direction that can reduce the quality of the signals you are trying to pick up. It acts as an isolation deviece.
I recommend a professional antenna installer or maybe a ham radio operator. There is a lot Todd understood about antennas and the behavior of the transmitted signal. And these new TVs that are super slow to show results of adjustments.
Just use the antenna that was used 20 years ago. You will be surprised what it picks up. I would remove the dish and use a telescoping mast and use a UHF antenna you can also add elements to pick up VHF with little problems. If you are close enough to the stations you can pick up most stations. Some are weaker than others and you may need a booster amplifier I found that out my booster amplifier wasn't on I did a rescan after I turned on the booster amplifier and got three times as much stations. My antenna is in the attic because we get lots of storms and the sun is hard on the plastic on the antenna. The Florida sun is hard on antenna hardware. Even the cables get dry rotted if left out in the sun. 73
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did you use the dish splitter for the cable wires then connected the wires right into the TV no amplifier
No i just used the direct cable line from the satelite to the house
Placing the antenna in the same direction as the satellite has nothing to do with OTA signal.
What does OTA Signal mean.
@@Whitebear80 Over The Air
I agree he just got lucky that the local TV tower that transmitts just happened to be in that direction you may have to adjust antenna to find your local TV tower
For those that claim it has nothing to do with it. The dish is the reflector that asks as the ground plane to reflect the signal back to the antenna. It works the same way as when the LAN is on it getting SAT TV. Notice the LAN is not facing the southwest sky but the dish is because the dish reflects the signal back.
@@jamieschlesinger7602 My dish points south, but the OTA antenna farm in my city is West of me. How is that supposed to work?
I have a degree in electronics and experience installing satellite TV. This will eliminate any satellite reception and about 1 in 36 chance that you will have your antenna pointed in the right direction. You would be well off to remove the satellite dish to eliminate wind loading.
The aerial on its own will pull in from your local TV transmitter WITHOUT the dish. The LNB you took off picks up signals from the dish from the satellite. Two different methods of broadcast. There are three types for TV. Satellite, Cable and Terrestrial / over the air. Satellite and terrestrial work on different frequencies
Thanks for your comment
Great Antenna and Instructions...
Pics are clear...Thanks
So you tried this method and it worked?
It's more important to point the antenna at the broadcast towers than the direction your dish is pointed.
You got lucky that your broadcast towers are likely south of you. My towers are north and west of me.
If I pointed my antenna south I wouldn't pick up any stations, because there are no broadcast towers at sea.
Can you explain how can have 2 reflectors. The dish is a reflector and the large element of the antenna is other reflector. In addition to his can a reflector for milimétric waves be usefull for decimetrica waves like the digital TV.
If you have good signal strength in your area with a fish hook and a wire you can receive this decimetric signals.
The sat dish is useless in this configuration.
Hi Juan, I am not exactly sure if the satellite dish itself is helping me. I do know I am getting way more channels with the antenna on the dish. My main objective was to use the dish cable going into my house so I can get reception in all my rooms of my house. It worked great
Or you can remove the dish and use the J pole already there holding the Dish. I just removed mine, but plan to increase the J pole height with another pole.
Thanks man! I will try on my camper with the dish on the house.Just got rid of Dish.They ripped me off.I bet I will get more channels and good mounting point.I also see on other videos you can remove the 3 bolts on stick of satellite stand and you can move dish 360.Off the grid in woods it should help.💯💥
Hello and thank you for the comment:)
Can It work in Jamaica 🇯🇲?
Hey buddy, I just wanna thank you for taking the time to help those that don't have the slightest idea on how to help themselves. Obviously you are not an electronics guru but you had an idea and acted on it, and it worked to some extent. That's a hell of allot better than slow roll criticizing what you've done and trying to offend you with disparaging remarks. Those types reveal way more about themselves by doing that than they could ever know. Being curious and experimenting is how we figure shit out. Anyway, good job.
Jack I want to thank you for the nice message, And yes you are right I do get some hateful remarks, My main goal of this experiment was to see if I could use the Satellite cable to get reception from the Antenna to all the rooms in my house, and it worked, and the 80 channels was just a bonus, not sure if the dish helped with this or not but again it was a bonus.. But for some reason some people feel the need to lash out at me. I know there are always going to be haters out there and Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But again I appreciate your message. :)
The dish as nothing to do with the antenna's reception. It just makes a convenient place to mount it.
Hello Ralph, yes I am not sure how much the dish is helping, but my main purpose for doing this was to use the coaxial cable from the dish to get reception to all the rooms in my house. I can say I got a lot more channels after hooking the antenna to the dish.
Does it have to be a satellite coax cable wire to attatch to tv antenna?...what abt GROUND wire?
Hi you would use only the existing cable that is already going to your Satellite dish. There should only be one cable hooked up to it.
I could be wrong, so take this with a grain of salt. If the original satellite installer was good, he grounded the cable during installation. Follow the cable from the dish to where it enters the house, if there is a coupler with a wire sent to ground before it goes in the house, you're good. If not, just search on how to splice a ground in on google or youtube. You'll figure it out ;)
Do you get all the network channels? ABC, nbc, cbs, etc?
absolutely
It depends on where you live.
But if you're near any medium or large city you will receive ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and probably some local channels.
Plus, all the major networks have sub channels.
I’m about to do the same thing. Is it already grounded or do you have to ground the antenna that you just installed?
Im doing it Itsa great idea , although you should aim the antenna at the direction of known TV Towers.
thanks buddy good luck
So, once I get the coax from the dish and hook it up to the antenna, do I need to connect or disconnect anything where the existing directv goes into the house? It looks like I have 4 cables that are connected to a plate on side of house.
Hello and thanks for the question, No I did not disconnect anything except the one coaxial cord from the satellite to the antenna,
Hey I work on satellite dishes like this, I have a few notes.
Firstly, this goes without saying but you should only do this if you are no longer using that dish for TV service. This would cut of the signal from the satellite.
The dish is pointed to the specific position of the satellites in orbit and not pointed towards the towers that the local channels come from. The OTA signal for your local channel stations come from a tower on the ground somewhere in your city. Generally speaking satellite dishes in the US will be pointed to the south. The OTA local channel towers are generally in the middle of the city you live in. So if you live on the south side of town you'd probably want swing the dish around to the north. The best thing to do is look up a map online of there the local channel towers are and just point that direction.
You should be able to use the existing wire from the satellite to your TV, but you want to avoid any diplexers or splitters that are specific to the satellite company. you might want to replace any those those with a barrel connector or standard cable splitter. Best thing to do is trace the wire down and make sure you have as direct of a connection to the tv as possible.
Good stuff buddy, thanks for knowledge
Great video, thank you! One question is why did you leave the DirecTV reflector attached, and how does that affect your UHF/VHF reception?
Hello Tony, I am not sure the reflector is actually doing anything but it was just easier to leave it on. Thanks for the comment
To know where to point the antenna there are Android phone apps to show you where the towers are. One is antenna point or DTV antennas. Using the satellite cable is good because is already set up to the interior of the house, but if anything keep the dishes "J" pole, can always mount the antenna on that.
If still a weak signal, screw a pre amp in, they have those at Walmart too.
I live in NE Texas in the country and I have a basic air antenna thats mounted 30' high and facing SE (my only option) and I get only 8 channels facing Tyler but on a good day maybe 13 some signals coming out of Shreveport. There's no way you would get that many channels using the direction of a former Sat service. Chances are you live in a large city that may have 7 local stations. It is a known fact that digital stations lower their power in the evenings which lessens the strenght of said signal. And on windy days or during storms Im lucky to get 3 channels.
So for what you are saying I have to call BS on it.
2 questions: 1. how many stations would you get without the Dish antenna normally? and 2. The Dish would have been pointed optimally for Satelite reception, not aerial readio frequency, so how since making the video have you found a better direction for your reception??
what I was looking for was using the dish as a antenna reflector its not hooked up to your outdoor antenna its reflecting the signal to the antenna to make it stronger I was looking for a video to see if it actually works.( using a dish as a reflector.)
The only part of this video that is correct is that you can put up an antenna and get free over the air tv but the dish doesn't help any. The dish pointed up toward the satellites it picked up the signal from so if you picked up stations in the direction the dish pointed you were just lucky the stations happened to be in that direction. I would expect that the dish behind the antenna would reflect the signal causing signal cancellation.
Notice the shape of the dish, which is designed to get a signal from one direction and amplify it VS. the shape of the antenna which is designed to get signals from any direction. SMH at the people who fell for this. The dish is off and doing nothing but acting as a mount point (and he is reusing it's wires).
@@zathras11b53 He said to position the antenna in the same direction as the dish because the people that put in the dish knew which direction to get the best signal. Satellite dish is pointed at the satellite which has nothing to do with the direction Over the air stations come from. OTA stations can come from many directions or one direction depending only on what direction the tower the signal is coming from. I live in an area where stations come from multiple directions. He was just lucky that pointing the antenna in the direction the dish mount was in happened to be close enough to the right direction that it worked well for the stations he got but He might have been able to get more stations if he had a rotor to point the antenna at other stations. This depends on whether the stations he could pick up all came from one major city rather than multiple citys.The tv antenna he used is directional and is not designed to pick up stations from all directions which is why rotors are used to point the antenna at the tv tower the station is coming from. I have a round tv antenna that is supposed to pick up stations in all directions but it doesn't do as well in some directions even after turning it to work as well as possible.
Awesome video going to do this with my antenna I got from Amazon can’t wait
Hey thanks buddy, good luck
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Hi thank you so much for the nice message, Yes I try to do a couple videos every month:)
Do you run cable through sat box to TV?
No there should already be a cable
The dish is no longer connected to the tv. The antenna is pulling in the stations from the towers not the satellite. The number of stations vary depending on the terrain and the tv stations in your area. All he did was use the cable which goes to all the tvs in your house.
This is very interesting! Btw, your living room wall behind your tv, yep.. great minds think alike! Same here!
Hey thanks for the compliment buddy. I actually stained all those wood peices on the wall by hand.
Depends on where the majority of ota antennas are relative to your houses location will be the determination of if you have to move the dish. Where I live the dish points south and the OTA antenna is nw. One has nothing to do with the other so the statement you made that you won't have to move it is incorrect!
Hello and thank you for the comment.
I like that this guy actually commented on questions that are TRUE scientific facts... Satellite dishes are pointed to guess what? Omg satellites...... Let's then turn this 🎶 music up.... Sorry some know the song so play it! I like it! Anyway tv antenna don't work that way ..BUT Wait! Don't move the satellite dish that's stupid not yet anyways..... See what you get for channels first then figure out where your most populous city is close to you and that's that antennas are usually on the hills around those cities but don't do that first I think the satellite dish itself gives a lot of reception behind the antenna ... More metal works
You're really just using the satellite mast to hold your OTA antenna.
You still need to point the OTA antenna towards the broadcast towers.
I just removed the dish entirely and used the mast to mount the antenna... and positioned it.
Hello thanks for the advise and the comment
So I have a DTV dish as well. If i hook up an antenna this way, do i just connect a coax cord from the coax on any wall in the house to the TV??
Hello sorry for late response, yes that is what I did and it worked for me.
It's got to say thank you man for the great tip because I was trying to think about a way to mess with my old dish antenna and you gave me the perfect way to do it so thank you so very much keep doing what you're doing you're amazing man.
Hi Erica thank you for the nice comment and the compliment. I am glad i could help you:)
This doesn't work you can not point you ordinary TV antenna in space cuz my dish is mounted on the ground and pick up channels this does not work not here in Wisconsin evidently since you live in California you're pulling yours from the TV Tower you're not pulling them from space
Awesome man great idea. I know what I’m doing on the weekend. Thank you for the tutorial.
Any time!
I completed my task and attached an aftermarket TV antenna to my existing decommissioned Direct TV satellite dish. It was very easy and cost only a few bucks for some zip ties. I was able to use the antenna for my upstairs office TV as well because Direct TV had already run cables to each room in the house. I’m happy with the outcome and highly recommend this for anyone who wants to recycle their existing satellite dish.
@@gregory8777 Awesome good job buddy:)
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Hello my friend I want to apologize for this late reply to your comment. I do not get on here everyday like I should. I appreciate your kind words and I am glad you liked my video. Cheers:)
I drove semi gone all week for 15 years, The first thing I did , when parking, is see if I could scan in some tv channels . I noticed if a semi was parked alongside me on the correct side it would act as a reflector and I would get more stations. Even some OTA antenna's have a wire grid for reflecting more signal back to the antenna. Now retired I use an old small dish network dish I purchased in 2005, sold at pilot truck stops back then . behind my out side antenna with out it channels aren't good enough in the day time to watch as I'm 45 miles out of a city
U need to waterproof the cable connection, and Terristial DTV directions have nothing to do with 14 GHz. satellite downlinks.
I have 2 cables coming out of the satellite 📡 dish. Which 1 do I use I live in Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺.
Hi Lawrence, I am not sure about the set up you have in Australia. Here we only have one coaxil cable going to the dish. You can maybe try one at a time or you can buy a splitter and hook both cables to it
Your dish will be pointed to the satalite's geo stationary orbital position. If that's the same direction as your broadcast towers you are lucky. I'm my case a direct tv or dish network dish would point south west but the broadcast tv towers are to the northwest where I live.
I do like his use of the dish in the set up. It seems like it would work as a reflector to collect some additional signal for his antenna. The roof location is ideal as well.
Hello and thanks for the comment. Yes I do think the dish is giving me better signal, and hooking it up to the dish cable wire allowed me to get the channels in every room. It worked for me. Good luck:)
I think Michael is correct at his presumption of the dish being aimed at the satellites and the need to change its direction toward the transmitters of the over the air stations. Most area TV stations will use the same general location for the best broadcast signal.
@Matt Quinn I would have probably not done what he did but it worked for him.
I would have taken the dish off and used the J pole mount the dish was on to mount the antenna and the cable. then aim to the correct azimuth for the broadcast towers.
The collectors should be about 16" from the middle of the dish
Yes, he got lucky, the location of the geostationary sattelites and consequential orientation of the dish set up has nothing to do with what direction local OTA tv transmitters are located.
What about the satellite receiver from the satellite company? Do you bypass that and hook right up to your tv?
Hi Kevin sorry for the late response. Yes I got rid of my cable and all the satellite cable boxes before I tried this.
you are just getting TV through an Aerial you set it up on the fascia board of the house ,
If you don't have to rewire your attic with wires for ota antenna is what I would like. I would really hope this could work.
direct tv at my location points dish to the southwest. all my st. louis stations come from the south east at 126 to 142 degrees. so I would have to re orient my dish .
sigh! The Dish is pointed toward where the Dish Satellite is going to be while in geo-stationary orbit around the Earth. You want to point the TV Antenna in the direction of your local, earth-bound, TV Stations' towers. If they are in the same direction, you just got lucky... Also, this only works for every room in the house that has ALREADY BEEN WIRED to the dish antenna. Also, usually, only the X.1 channels are HD- all the sub-channels (X.2, X.3, X.4, etc...) are the older SD video resolution, and usually show older programming because of that. Lastly, if you are close enough, with little in the way of obstruction, you can get away with a cheap, no-name antenna- shoot, even using a coat hanger would work! But the further out you are, you are better off with a name-brand antenna, like Winegard or Antennas Direct. In this case, though, the Satellite Dish may be acting as a reflector for the TV antenna, so may be boosting the signal a small bit. As a side note- if you don't already have your home wired from a previous installation, you can also use something like a Tablo device, which has 2-4 built-in tuners, attaches to your TV antenna, then sends the OTA Signal to any streaming device you have connected to your TV (Roku, Firestick, etc...). The Tablo can also record OTA broadcasts with an optional Hard Drive.
Thanks for the heads up on Tablo. I've always read that the signal from OTA is "pure" and better than streaming. Will a Tablo take away some of that quality? (my video quality knowledge is minimal)
@@martinmuecke2791 No, the Tablo can be set up to stream and/or record at 720p or 1080. I like it, even with some minor issues. It loads slowly, to create a buffer for recording. You have to have an internet connection. The Guide is only 24 hours ahead for the free version- but the 2-week guide is for a lifetime subscription at least. There is also a 3rd party Windows Program that can pull the Tablo recordings from the hard drive and put them on your computer in an MP4 format. Some version of the Table come with a built-in hard drive, some you buy your own- I prefer the latter, as you can usually find a larger one for a little cheaper. Lastly, and this probably won't really be an issue for most, but they are coming out with a newer version that will have an ATSC 3.0 tuner, for latest broadcast standard that will roll out over the next few years.
The dish can be used as a reflector in that way, but that needs to be tuned to a specific channel frequency. Reflectors are good if tuned correctly, but reduce signal if tuned wrong. The tuning is simply the spacing between the driven element and the reflector (dish) to result in a constructive reflected signal. Note that high frequency UHF channels are rapidly disappearing and a dish reflector becomes less and less useful at lower frequencies. The dish can also be used to block an unwanted back side channel that causes interference.
Thanks for sharing the knowledge, good stuff
wonderful to say! if i should connect any ordinary antenna to the dish shown, please what happen to my down converter? 2. would i also get signal from the provider again
Hello I would not recommend doing this unless you are done with cable. That being said, you will be disconnecting part of the satellite dish that recieves the cable signal so you would not be able to get cable signal this way. you can always reverse this procedure and get cable again if you decide you want to get cable again in the future.
Like mine , luckily the dish is pointed towards our broadcast stations 50 to 60 miles away . I put ours in my attic just to see how many channels we could get . When we drop dish network I’m moving the antenna to the where the dish is and using the cables that are already ran to each room in the house . I believe that’s what the poster wanted to show .
Hi Mark, just want to say thanks for the great comment:)
What are you using for an amp?
great question
I learned you live north of all those channels.
Would the antenna work on a satelitte dish thats been mounted on the ground in concrete n what is the name of ur anttena.
I so appreciate all the comments from the antenna and satellite dish experts...lol
good job - cable tv bills keep going up - i have been told that you need a good outdoor antenna to pick up low power tv stations - that indoor antenna just will not pick it up - is that right ?
Hello I actually tried an indoor antenna and I did not have good results. Thanks for watching;)
Not too sure the dish makes much difference. You got lucky that it was pointed at the TV over-air broadcast towers. Maybe it's just off a little bit and you might get more channels with some slight adjustment? We get over 100 channels here pointing straight at the towers about 70 miles out of Los Angeles. I think you're somewhere near Fresno?
The beauty of it is the dish is just a convenient mounting location: existing hard mount and existing cable already run straight to the TV. He will still be better off aiming it properly.
@@Dusdaddy I see that. Cable already in place. I put mine on fence rails vertically mounted to the house about 25 ft up and get around 100 channels
@@themoviemaniac8416 Good job! I did the same.
@@Dusdaddy Yeah. I've never paid for Cable or Satellite. Always used an antenna. In the days before digital it was antenna and home video. Now with streaming, it's antenna and streaming, but I won't buy any steaming services and get nickel and dimed to death.
Yes you are right, this is in Clovis next to Fresno.
I just use the same mast antenna that has been on my home since I bought in 1996.
Using the dish is a good idea but I’m thinking the way the dish works is bounce the signal back to the antenna so I’m wondering if turning the mast antenna to face the dish would work better.
I get 27 with the mast antenna but I have at least 3 dishes I’ve been thinking of adding to mast and cellphone booster antennas.
Careful tho because if the signal is too strong you can burn up equipment. I live in the country where the signals suck but I don’t pay for tv or internet except for my cellphone reception. Without the booster I have very poor signal but with the booster and not using the dish I have up to 5g cell.
My mast antenna also has an inline booster through a cable but I’m looking to turn my tv signal into wireless which I ‘m think may just as simple as hooking up an indoor antenna to wall cable and a simple antenna to the tv’s.
He’s not using the dish for anything except a convenient mount for his new over the air HD TV antenna and because the coax to carry the signal inside the house was already there. You’re reading too much into this video.
Ok...Ive done that...the picture comes in clear....but freezes...
Ok that means you are not getting a good connection. Maybe try turning the antenna a different connection. One person commented that he has to turn his antenna a different direction for him to et a good connection. For me it works perfect going the same direction as the satellite dish.
Or you may not actually have a bad connection, and the antennas is just pointed the wrong way. Again, you don’t point antenna in the same direction as the dish. The antenna is pointed at the towers of the broadcast stations.
Satellite signals are on a different frequency than land over the air TV channels are. Satellite signals are much higher that bounce off the dish into the receiver at the middle. TV free tv channels are on a lower frequency that do not bounce instead penetrate so the dish isn't why you're getting the station. I have the same antenna you are using and it's a very good antenna.
I have the same. I pick up the hard one, PBS and it's 4 hours away.
Just use the coax wire and the mount from the dish. The dish is actually pointing to a satellite orbiting the earth, so it will not help with over-the-air signal. It may actually cause an interference with the signal.
Hi I Live in Northwestern Virginia and im kinda down in a dip and some tall trees are around me. Ive gotten free stations before on this same road , But I bought the house up the road from me and im having extrrme difficulty . However at my old house I had a medium tall antanae and that converter box. I have been stressing and trying to rig stuff all week long and im just about nuts here..lol im a woman nd im climbing up and down the ladder and moving everything and running back inside to scan....still nothing....plaease advise . ..lol my neighbors are starting to hate me because they wave everytime they go by and im frusterated and im sick of waving !!! Lol...Any advice I would appreciate . Thank You
Hi Tbug, I am not sure but maybe the tall trees are blocking your signal. Maybe you can try using a Roku Stick plus to get thousands of free stations. I have 2 other videos on showing the roku stick plus.. One is called how I got rid of cable and now I get thousands of free channels, this video will show you everything you can do with the Roku stick and the channels you can get. Then I have another video called roku stick install for tv, step by step. Also I have a link under the video showing the cheapest place to buy the Roku stick plus. Let me know how everything goes:)
You could just take the dish off & use the j mount & wire already there
Best to add a one to three foot pole to that mount to get the antenna high enough to eliminate any likely interference caused by the roof blocking the signals.
Dish might act as a reflector for the directional antenna?
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Max thanks for the funny comment buddy:)
best about using Satelitte dish is u can use the cables for an ANT and if u do go back ..you'll have 2 cable lines to choose from ANT and SAT - as the new instillation provides new cables, and not allowed to use the old,is what im doing, plus when bad weather and SAt goes out, dish charges 12 a mth for local, so having an ANT saves that each mth ...DirectTv gives some local added to the charge, and only comes in if the SAT is working in good weather, dont pay ur bill Local channels are gone also, it pays to have an ANT installed, if nothing else use for your home FM/am stereo - edit thanks for sharing this, this is what ill be doing till Direct tv hooks me up next week, right now with Dish and they went up after 2 yrs, 40.00 overnight to 140.00 a mth- so switching back to Direct,for under 100.00 ... but if i can get used to the ANT channels I'm going to cancel Direct is my goal
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@@ItsMe-rl7ex I went up under the house where they attached the ground on a clamp, I went to tighten it up, it shocked me like a 110 v !!.. It wasn't even tightened up, and the connectors was barely hand tightened and instead of drilling a hole in the floor they drilled into the side of the house and ran one cord that way for the living room, and tacked the wire with one U nail plastic clap thingie, the rest was just dangling on a round wad… I always get bad installers and have to fix, I learned how to fix everything, which is the positive I guess - but yes, U have to have that meter to get a good signal, it rains there goes the sat.. im sick of it and the expense..when Direct gets installed I will make sure to show me this time, thanks for the reminder :)
A dish is pointing to a satellite. The TV antenna would have to be pointed to the TV station broadcast , not the satellite. Tell us how that works.
Hi Rob, yes I have had that same comment many times, I guess I got lucky because they were both in the same direction for me. You might have to turn it to get the best signal for you.
Antena reciever can work with satellite dish ?
@@passionfleva775 I mostly just used the dish because I wanted all the rooms in my house to get the signal, I was surprised to get so many channels
nice bro....
but you are not using YAGI antenna ????
and you are not telling this antenna works UHF VHF HF frequency????
I don’t understand pointing it in direction of satellites. My local channels are in the east. Explain
Hi it just worked out for me this way. I have since received hundreds of comments telling me the satelite is pointed different than the local channels. Good to know, Like I said it just worked for me this way. thanks for the comment
So I can use that one antenna with a splitter to get channels for multiple Rooms? There won't be any interferes between the signal strengths Dropping?
Hello you should not need to use a splitter. The coaxial cable should already be set up to go to all the rooms in your house.
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I plan on this what connection changes behind the tv did you do
He didn't need ANY. Simply plug into the existing lead to his house direct tv used.
hey just to let you know you could be misleading people a bit not all transmitters are facing the same direction as the sat dish if theyhavent got a meter to measure the signal some neibours might have an aerail up go the same direction as them
how did you keep converter boxes after you cut off service? That is what stumps me..my sat.provider wants equipment back if I shut off service.
I also had to return the boxes but they never want the dish back
@@Savajelyfe That is one thing you said that is 100% true. We (past tense for me) NEVER wanted the dish back and I'll tell you why...the next home owner might want service and boom there it is. Already mounted and just needs to be checked.
He was using each TV's internal tuner.
You’re totally incorrect on how to point that antenna. The satellite dish is pointed in the correct direction for satellite TV channels. The local channels unlike satellite channels aren’t being bounced off a satellite in space. For best reception, you’re supposed to point the antenna in the direction of the local stations’ broadcast towers. Also, there’s no point in actually keeping the dish. Just unbolt the entire dish off the dish mount and bolt the antenna there instead.
Actually he was clever of mounting it in front of the dish. As I have been experimenting with my old dish by putting an antenna in front of it, it actually boosts the signal significantly by reflecting it back to the antenna from behind. I thing he would actually loose alot of channels by removing the dish as it works as an reflector. He would probably get even more channels if he turned the antenna toward the direction they are broadcasting from.
@@thepicard83 but it also depends on your area. All of the towers in your area may be scattered around your location and the dish could "block" the signals from towers in that direction (reduce their strength, actually). So while it may be an advantage for towers that your dish is pointing towards, everyone's mileage may vary.
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It was totally coincidental that your dish was pointed in the "correct" direction; your broadcast signals must be coming relatively from the south, assuming you live in the northern hemisphere (because that's where satellite antennas are pointed - toward the equator). It served no purpose other than to provide a place to mount your new antenna, which is pointing AWAY from the dish; the antenna was doing ALL the work.
"You're completely incorrect." Lol What a snooty comment... jerk
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Hi Jamie I am so sorry for you job loss. It seems so many people are losing their jobs. The TV antenna I bought at walmart for around 50 dollars. It came with the bracket and everything you will need. I believe it was a GE pro outdoor antenna. I will also tell you if you buy a roku stick plus you can get thousands of free movie, sports, children channels and any kind of tv you can think of. More tv than you can ever watch for free. This is going to be my next video. Good luck
I used to install dishes all way to 3 meter size and spent 20 years as system tech with spectrum my RF KNOWLEDGE is rather extensive and all you did was added additional reflection/ focus element to your " cheap " Walmart antenna in a sense just amplifying the receivable channels the next advantage you have is you probably live in metro area or closely clustered cities
In my case the closest transmit station is 80 miles away on the other side of glacier created rim or in a sense I live in deep bowl the closest city only has 4 net works ( with digital rulings each may have as few as 2 or three channels to 12 channels each due compression
That " dish is not an active antenna just paraboliç reflector