00:00 MA v Karen Read 02:01 Arguing for Phone Records 04:24 "John O'Keefe Was Not Hit By Car" 10:45 Crime Scene Expert Joins the Show 20:06 Expert Analysis #CourtTV What do YOU think? MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
Anyone who has ever been attacked by a dog will recognize those are dog bite impressions alongside long nails from a dog paw on each side of where his mouth would have bit the arm.
@@jtjones4081 btw my sister and I were attacked by 2 German Shepherds. My injuries to the leg were similar to the injuries shown in the picture. Just sharing a thought
@@jtjones4081 He admitted that he is not an expert and that he is just a prosecutor with an opinion anda platform... he even said this again just yesterday..
I kind of automatically think about who has the best ability to cover a crime? The police or his girl friend? They’ve lied about relationships already. Pretty sure they are hiding something, as in the police are hiding something.
actually think of it this way... *by proctor failure to conduct proper investigation, especially taking into account the female medical examiner ruled (undetermined) cause of John's demise. proctor still stayed laser focused only on Karen while sharing info w/ the alberts & others, proctor unintentionally provided cover, so actually all the alberts had to do was fix the floor, get rid of the dog who is Mos Def involved, sell the house. by all them basically being related to, know ppl & in law enforcement, know how investigation works are smart enuff to know how he had already botched the investigation what was there to cover up? unintentional cover, has no need for anyone to be in cohoots or a plan or a story. it's so simple. it's unbelievable, to think no one has said this... what do you think ?
@@MearnieToon these people will fight tooth and nail to not be proven wrong it's like an obsession I mean they spend their time making signs holding rallys for someone they do not even know all bussed in from Worcester.
@@MearnieToon yes, driver ploughed into me then absconded to Australia. Tire tracks left on back. Seen many accidents involving cars vs humans (worked in a hospital) Common sense really.
@@Sharon-xb8ve I don't give a fig tbh. I'm just stating the obvious. Whether she gets banged up for life with no parole or walks, doesn't affect me. It's just shocking how blind people are that amazes me. I wonder where their brain cells went?? They obviously haven't got 2 to rub together 🤣🤣
This is what the defense has reiterated this but we don’t have access to the report, 3000 page one. They are professional spinners and wouldn’t rest my opinion on the hearing.
@@mauiswift6391We don’t have access but the judge & prosecution do. If the case goes to trial the federal experts will testify. It’s unlikely in the extreme that the defense would spin FBI testimony. They know they’d get caught out.
@@mauiswift6391The judge does and isn’t going to just let the defense mischaracterize it. The judge wasn’t going to let the phone records in. Until she read the report.
The Canton police found clear broken glass consistent with cocktail glass. Those police used RED SOLO cups to “secure” blood drops in snow. The police officers used LEAF BLOWER to search for evidence. Thus finding the broken clear cocktail glass. NO red glass found, no hat found, no missing sneaker found. But miraculous found clear broken glass in snow. Suggesting this police officers searched the scene….so where did these missing items appear from?????
Please do not forget the leafblower and unsealed red solo cups stored in used grocery bags and the lack of a report filed regarding the gathering of that evidence.
After being bit many times by my own dog, twice having to go to the hospital… I looked at my old photos of the bites and they look identical to the wounds on the officers arm.
@@jaynepetersen454- Where's the canine DNA after you clean the wounds with peroxide and why, despite the depth of these alleged cuts, was there no glass or otherwise found in the wounds themselves? It's a nice theory, really, but the canine bites on his arm prove he actually made it inside the house that night. Ironically, the family disposed of the dog shortly thereafter, probably to mitigate the risk of having bite impressions align at a later date.
Also very interesting how John O'Keefe had a 3 inch gash in back of his head but only a few drops of blood found he had defensive bruises on the back of his hands like he was trying to cover his face & head while he was being beat how does O'Keefe' get a 3inch gash on back of his head if they found him in the middle of the lawn did he get hit by car hit his head on cerment street & bounce into yard .
It all points to the house, arm is 💯 dog bites and the fight was in the basement weight room and replaced the floor after before selling the house. He wasn't hit by the car 0 injuries to his mid body
The women that were with Karen when he was found said there was a lot of snow covering him. If the taillight glass was found on top of the snow, it was planted.
@@mauiswift6391Or it was out there after the snow melted. Either way, the chain of custody sucks. The crime scene processing sucks. They should have found that the same night. It couldn’t have been buried that far down. If they can’t definitively match that shard to Karen’s car specifically the shard is useless.
@@canuckproducer8446 Except that third guy moronically talking about cows 🐄 has been on many Court TV segments about the Karen Read case. So he doesn’t have an excuse.
No because after she is found guilty there will be a gag order, they already did that with Aiden Kearney but he has the balls to still do videos I mean what wrong with that guy?
@@jacofalltrades7610 she abused him for years the niece and nephew going to testify along with the family the prosecution interviewed the witnesses men can go through domestic violence did you know that?
There's a photo of one of the homeowners sons or something at a party afterwards with bruising on his face as if he'd been in a fight. He left after and others left the home how did they not see the body
If he crawled up , there would be a trail of blood . Alot was going on , and the people in the house seemed not too curious . Yet people always gather around to see what happened . But not these people . Nervous ?
He was killed, not by Karen read. I am surprised a grand jury would consider her as the criminal. It’s insane! She is innocent but all his friends are complicit!
He really did! Are there injuries to his midsection? If so how high? Can they recreate the type of damage found on the officers body? All great points.
Vinny is very fair & balanced not like the Hack Julie Grant. Nobody asks the question of why Msp only started finding Tail Light pieces only after Lead Detective Proctor seized Karen Reads Vehicle MSP Detectives & Canton PD committed so many violations corrupt actions this is Malicious Prosecution .
@@pistolpete8231 you people are you spend you free time fighting for a woman that abused John, you clap chant free Karen read these RUclipsrs take your money that's what's funny bro, Karen is smiling laughing smirking flirting with Yetti he just getting paid.
Karen is Accused but not guilty - from these videos it seems there is enough evidence for the other party to also stand as accused - this is not fair IMO
@@jaynepetersen454- Or maybe they should have processed the scene correctly on day one to secure all of the alleged evidence at once, especially considering the volatile nature of the scene. They didn't need superpowers to do that. We have this little thing called technology to assist in our discovery. Of course, if you know ahead of time that there's nothing to find, why bother? Nah, this alleged evidence should have been and would have been found in the snow with the body, not 6 days later at a different depth. All of this nonsense is really just insulting the intelligence of average folks who possess the capacity to reason. Anyone still convinced that this officer was killed by an impact with a vehicle is, at this point, deemed incapable of arriving at logical conclusions. Are you friends with the killers, Jay? Is that why you're so adamantly dismissive of rational considerations?
@@jaynepetersen454 They claim they found evidence from 5 different searches done in the week after.... Problem is, they were undocumented, no photos, no notes... From a lead detective that had witnesses at his house, and texted them about thank you gifts... The lead detective also lied to the grand jury about being personal friends w/some of the witnesses. She was def. Set up
The defense has been trying to get the phone records forever. The judge denied an earlier motion for these phone records. That was before the feds got the call logs & turned them over to the defense.
@@valhallawThe lawyers for the “co-conspirators” do not want to provide this info and will have one last chance to argue to not turn them over at the next hearing. But the defense already has them from the federal grand jury. But the defense wants more.
maybe those that are framing Karen and put John in the middle of the road were hoping to have "someone's" car run over John and no car drove buy until Karen showed up in the morning...
For people who are new to this, bringing you up to speed, Listen to the 6 podcasts of Brandi Churchwell 13th Juror "Conspiracy in Canton" she tells the whole story in detail, then you will know everything in depth.
Mr kenzie, I truly respect you as a lawyer.... But you really should research cases more before you add your two cents. Karen Reed told one of her friends and I want to say it was Jen... The so-called friend..... That she had done a damn thing and backed into a vehicle because she was so panicked on getting over to find john.... This would explain why they were using that as their way to try to frame Karen😐
If his shoe is missing, that proves to me right there that he was placed there by someone and they didn't know his shoe had fallen off. I mean, why would his shoe be missing otherwise? I know a shoe/s can fall off when hit by a car but that shoe should've been laying right there in the area around where JO was found if it had fallen off, not missing...... Karen Read is innocent.
THE GUY IN THE YELLOW TIE SHOULD LISTEN TO ALL THE CALLS & TEXT BETWEEN ALL THE ALBERTS FAMILY COPS & DETECTIVES THAT NIGHT AND NEXT DAY WOULD KNOW THEIR COVERING UP FOR SOMEONE.
The defense does this a lot. They're actually good at it...their tactic is to find a word or phrase that could be interpreted another way (opposite of what should be obvious in the context of the word), then they run with it. They crank it up to 11, and assert it as true. I'm betting she had migraines, went to a physician, and the differential dagnosis could have been some sort of tumor, lesion, etc. The defense took that, then presented it to the court as gospel. This tactic can be effective ..IF IT IS USED SPARINGLY. Lol. They've been called out and disproven MULTIPLE times. Now, they just look incompetent.
@@AlphaFoxAdamWhen she was first arrested during her arraignment her lawyer Yanetti said it was a terrible accident. To reduce her bail he listed all her medical issues, including the diagnosis of a brain tumor. I feel they had to drop that real quick, because one thing you cannot do with most brain tumors is drive. Once Read changed her mind about it being a terrible accident, the tumor was dropped.
@@kerrygold6494 also, if it were false, and he persisted, then he proffered to the court a blatant lie (at worst) or a misreprentation (at best). Fair point about driving, as well...I imagine it's type/location/severity/treatment-protocol dependent, but it would be an argument that I'm sure Read wouldn't like to move forward.
@@Mrglock54 Blame the victim. That's what this case is all about. If John was a bus driver or a school teacher, there wouldn't be this circus. It's all about pushing the cop haters narrative. So obvious.
I guess I’ll look dumb if I’m wrong but who do you believe, a whole house full of cops and their wives or her? 🤔 I’m sorry but she had more motive to have him not be alive than these people with families!! By now, someone would have confessed! In my opinion!! Let the phone records tell the true story! Im kind of sick of all these people outside the court cheering her on and the smirk that is always on her face!! Let justice prevail!!
Yeah the same cops that lied about being awake. The same wife that strategically said “there’s a man passed out in the snow” The same people that can tell every little detail about everything. However, their careful observation never saw a man passed out in the snow. You won’t look dumb, because you’re not obligated to come up with a theory or to conduct a proper investigation.
The main reason I believe Karen Read is because no defense lawyer worth their salt would EVER try this if he/she wasn’t convinced of a cover up. He must be VERY confident. Any Lawyers here in comments know I’m right! The retribution would be swift and career ending. Ponder that!
I cant believe the DA even brought thus case against her. Anyone with a brain and ANY critical thinking skills can see she's innocent and the cops are setting her up.
Actually opposite I think. Anyone with a brain and critical thinking knows shes guilty & for ironic coincidences she’s been able to twist this story and ppl are falling for it
You should look into all the evidence here, I’m not a crazy person and not one to just hop on the bandwagon of a conspiracy but this case seems blatantly obvious. There is a mountain of evidence to back that claim. This video doesn’t cover half of it
All the evidence points to the house that's our issue with the case. And the feds with 3000+ pages of the investigation mind you it has more cases involved show she never did anything. Lots of stuff going on around the towns and DA office and ending with this case
@@aoleary5213 ITA. I started out thinking the defense was just putting out a typical distraction effort. Then I started reading the filings & looking at the publicly available evidence. And it’s wild. I’ve never even heard of a case that is so transparently a cover up. The FBI agrees.
and I want the same Vinnie❤💙 that’s why I reach out to you ❌⭕️😘 Our TurtleRiders are not a mob of minions and certainly are not getting paid. Look at all the receipts Karen’s team brings ! When the movie comes out I believe you should be you on screen❤️💙
What if the dog was there when Brian confronted John or vice versa and once fists started flying… being the aggressive dog it is, it lunged at John biting and scratching and accidentally made him fall and hit his head? Hence the laceration on the back of his head?
Looks like was dragged under the carriage of a vehicle while hoilding a glass...his cuts looked quite deep and they probly bled alot...if the ones that are trying to frame her are proved innocent..then what??
The wounds look like dog bite marks to me, and I have been bit a few times. Those puncture wounds, you can almost see where a bruise started to form under those punctures. The scratches look like teeth drag marks, when a dog doesn’t get a good biting grip. Were those wounds tested? Is there glass, dog saliva, car paint, anything?? And the wounds are all on one arm, like police dogs are trained to do. idk
Friend/coworker/neighbor immediately across from Brian Albert's house, who has a camera facing the street and area in question, could have closed this Case if ONLY he was ordered to give up the video ⁉️😠😤
Don’t forget that Brian Higgins Fire & Explosives Agent went to Federal Facility where Reeds car was being held days after. Why was he there? Could he have planted some of the John’s drinking glass to connect Reeds car to death & taking the light off the ALBERT family who is covering for someone?!
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00:00 MA v Karen Read
02:01 Arguing for Phone Records
04:24 "John O'Keefe Was Not Hit By Car"
10:45 Crime Scene Expert Joins the Show
20:06 Expert Analysis
#CourtTV What do YOU think?
MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?
Wait, the blood was on top of the snow but the plastic was under it? Impossible.
But the taillight was buried under the snow? More impossible.
@@darcymoon2109 Yeah, it seems pretty obvious looking at his wounds this was not a car that hit him.
It also tells me he was still alive when they dumped him, how else would blood be on top?
I’m sure someone will come up with the perfect excuse. Like the snow chose to cover some objects and not others.
@@Mrglock54white supremacy
How did they find shards of glass in the snow and not bright red plastic from the light ?
Shards were from the glass he was carrying that he carried out of the bar, they said they found the tail light Glass as well.
and how would cup glass STAY on the car for hour's ,in the snow, while driving around???
Thank you for using your brain cells😂
@@jaynepetersen454 the red taillight pieces were not found until weeks later!
😂 lies on top of lies
Anyone who has ever been attacked by a dog will recognize those are dog bite impressions alongside long nails from a dog paw on each side of where his mouth would have bit the arm.
We will never know. The Alberts got rid of their dog after the death of Okeefe.
And yet there’s no K9 DNA? Not possible.
@@jtjones4081 maybe 6 inches of falling fresh wet snow helped to contribute to the cleanup?
@@jtjones4081 btw my sister and I were attacked by 2 German Shepherds. My injuries to the leg were similar to the injuries shown in the picture. Just sharing a thought
@@jtjones4081 They never tested for canine dna.
Thank You Vinny! People with common sense really appreciate your opinion.
Too bad the “expert” didn’t seem to know anything about the facts of the case yet here he is, blabbering away. TV drama.
@@jtjones4081 He admitted that he is not an expert and that he is just a prosecutor with an opinion anda platform... he even said this again just yesterday..
@@Monica-hv4rfthe “expert” that Vinny had on. Not Vinny.
He didn't get hit by a car though sooo... Keep drinking his koolaid.
If there's nothing to it then they should be transparent and release everything
They aren't doing anymore than they have to because the defense has been trying this case on the streets and courthouse steps for months!
@@jaynepetersen454
Good for them 👏👏👏
Defending their client!!!
@@jaynepetersen454why do you hate the first amendment and american freedom?
your disdain for a womans presumed innocence before court is despicable
@@jaynepetersen454answer my question, why do you hate free speech and america?
its rather straightforward
@@carebear6763 they are getting paid.
I kind of automatically think about who has the best ability to cover a crime? The police or his girl friend? They’ve lied about relationships already. Pretty sure they are hiding something, as in the police are hiding something.
They got caught lying in the federal GJ Higgins most likely flipped because they caught him lying on the stand
actually think of it this way...
*by proctor failure to conduct proper investigation, especially taking into account the female medical examiner ruled (undetermined) cause of John's demise.
proctor still stayed laser focused only on Karen while sharing info w/ the alberts & others, proctor unintentionally provided cover, so actually all the alberts had to do was fix the floor, get rid of the dog who is Mos Def involved, sell the house. by all them basically being related to, know ppl & in law enforcement, know how investigation works are smart enuff to know how he had already botched the investigation
what was there to cover up? unintentional cover, has no need for anyone to be in cohoots or a plan or a story. it's so simple. it's unbelievable, to think no one has said this... what do you think ?
I've been run over. No way was Officer O'Keefe was run over.
Really you got run over by a car and not hurt? 😮
Oh ok 🙄
@@MearnieToon these people will fight tooth and nail to not be proven wrong it's like an obsession I mean they spend their time making signs holding rallys for someone they do not even know all bussed in from Worcester.
@@MearnieToon yes, driver ploughed into me then absconded to Australia. Tire tracks left on back. Seen many accidents involving cars vs humans (worked in a hospital) Common sense really.
@@Sharon-xb8ve I don't give a fig tbh. I'm just stating the obvious. Whether she gets banged up for life with no parole or walks, doesn't affect me. It's just shocking how blind people are that amazes me. I wonder where their brain cells went?? They obviously haven't got 2 to rub together 🤣🤣
Physical evidence does not match her suv damage. FBI said so and it makes sense to me
This is what the defense has reiterated this but we don’t have access to the report, 3000 page one. They are professional spinners and wouldn’t rest my opinion on the hearing.
@@mauiswift6391We don’t have access but the judge & prosecution do.
If the case goes to trial the federal experts will testify.
It’s unlikely in the extreme that the defense would spin FBI testimony. They know they’d get caught out.
@@mauiswift6391The judge does and isn’t going to just let the defense mischaracterize it.
The judge wasn’t going to let the phone records in. Until she read the report.
@@mauiswift6391 that’s true but if the defense was mischaracterizing the FBI report, I’m pretty sure Lally would’ve said so. he completely ignored it.
@@emmy2417 he cherry picked info from the report, he did not refer to the complete report for a reason.
So, they have never had a case.
All LE in MA is corrupt
The Canton police found clear broken glass consistent with cocktail glass. Those police used RED SOLO cups to “secure” blood drops in snow. The police officers used LEAF BLOWER to search for evidence. Thus finding the broken clear cocktail glass. NO red glass found, no hat found, no missing sneaker found. But miraculous found clear broken glass in snow. Suggesting this police officers searched the scene….so where did these missing items appear from?????
Proctor….not too late to come clean, do it for the brotherhood, man up for your fellow fallen officer.
All LE in MA is corrupt
They wipe there a** with our Constitution, as per policy.
@@Paul1958Rhas been for eons...
Please do not forget the leafblower and unsealed red solo cups stored in used grocery bags and the lack of a report filed regarding the gathering of that evidence.
After being bit many times by my own dog, twice having to go to the hospital… I looked at my old photos of the bites and they look identical to the wounds on the officers arm.
But there was no canine DNA and glass was found on his clothing.
I've seen dog bites and there is always puncture wounds, those are cuts, common sense !
Maybe you need to find your dog a better home, he's obviously not happy if he keeps biting you.
@@jaynepetersen454- Where's the canine DNA after you clean the wounds with peroxide and why, despite the depth of these alleged cuts, was there no glass or otherwise found in the wounds themselves?
It's a nice theory, really, but the canine bites on his arm prove he actually made it inside the house that night. Ironically, the family disposed of the dog shortly thereafter, probably to mitigate the risk of having bite impressions align at a later date.
@@jaynepetersen454they didn’t test for the dogs DNA!!
No way did she reverse backwards at 62 minutes miles per hour
The damage on her truck doesn’t match up with the damage to John 😢
Also very interesting how John O'Keefe had a 3 inch gash in back of his head but only a few drops of blood found he had defensive bruises on the back of his hands like he was trying to cover his face & head while he was being beat how does O'Keefe' get a 3inch gash on back of his head if they found him in the middle of the lawn did he get hit by car hit his head on cerment street & bounce into yard .
It all points to the house, arm is 💯 dog bites and the fight was in the basement weight room and replaced the floor after before selling the house. He wasn't hit by the car 0 injuries to his mid body
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Had to wait for the snow to melt to find the evidence?
If you can use a leaf blower, you can use a hair dryer.
propane tourch
6 days later. Could have come from anywhere.
Yup. Unless they match to her car definitively it proves nothing.
Those injuries on his arms look like an animal clawed and punctured skin with bite marks.
They look like lacerations, not dog bites. There was no DNA from a canine on his body. If he were bitten or scratched, there would be dna.
The women that were with Karen when he was found said there was a lot of snow covering him. If the taillight glass was found on top of the snow, it was planted.
It wasn’t, it was found when there was rain to expose it.
@@mauiswift6391Or it was out there after the snow melted.
Either way, the chain of custody sucks. The crime scene processing sucks. They should have found that the same night. It couldn’t have been buried that far down.
If they can’t definitively match that shard to Karen’s car specifically the shard is useless.
Snowmelt
@@darcymoon2109 they did match it to her vehicle. There was a huge blizzard that night making it impossible conditions.
@@mauiswift6391 Actually, this is incorrect. The storm had barely started when his body was found at 6am. The majority of the snow fell after 6am.
Karen’s back light was still working as she left after hitting Johns truck, Albert said her light was OUT ! And he was so concerned !???
man it’d be cool if the guests ever knew anything about this case
It'd be cool if Kenny knew anything. He's an idiot.
I second and third that , it’s hard to see Vinny have to act like he doesn’t think it’s a conspiracy but this guest is clueless
'Sounds like most of these guests get like a 20 minute notice of what the subject material might be
@@canuckproducer8446 lol. Probably.
@@canuckproducer8446 Except that third guy moronically talking about cows 🐄 has been on many Court TV segments about the Karen Read case. So he doesn’t have an excuse.
This case will 100% be made into a movie. Guaranteed.
No because after she is found guilty there will be a gag order, they already did that with Aiden Kearney but he has the balls to still do videos I mean what wrong with that guy?
@@Sharon-xb8veyall just speak like you know the future. are you one of the cops who planted evidence?
@@jacofalltrades7610 yes I planted the evidence you caught me 🤥😭😳😂😂😂😂
@@Sharon-xb8vestill more believable than a woman abruptly deciding to murder her fiancee in the driveway of a cop by backing into him at 10mph
@@jacofalltrades7610 she abused him for years the niece and nephew going to testify along with the family the prosecution interviewed the witnesses men can go through domestic violence did you know that?
Both tail lights are intact when she leaves
Yes they look in tact to me too. Doesn't look like the damage they are claiming.
My thoughts exactly. Why would the police not release camera footage from a library that could show if the tail light was broken or not.
Lexus has backup safety. The car would have stopped if she hit something
Tail light is made of polycarb and would not brake like
He was beaten up in the house
No
Yes. And attacked by dog too
I'm wondering what the jurors are thinking.....Any thoughts
In my opinion I think it appears he was beaten to death!. His injuries do not appear to be from a car hitting him!! 😒
There's a photo of one of the homeowners sons or something at a party afterwards with bruising on his face as if he'd been in a fight. He left after and others left the home how did they not see the body
I don’t think “former” is correct with a police officer who’s deceased. 🙁
Right? I found that comment off too
Oh I’m sorry you delicate flower ..
@@MearnieToonhow does that make someone a flower? Are you serious? They're pointing out the obvious know the difference
@@MearnieToonhow does stating the obvious make someone a flower? No one said they were offended by it.
@@MearnieToonthey're just pointing out the obvious that doesn't make them a flower. Are you serious?
The taillight wasn’t completely missing like it was in the sally port!
Something is fishy in canton
8 feet from the street holy cow thats a big hit.. the damage to the car would be huge
If he crawled up , there would be a trail of blood . Alot was going on , and the people in the house seemed not too curious . Yet people always gather around to see what happened . But not these people . Nervous ?
Seems legit to ask for phone records.
Seems fishy to say , " Nah , you cant have them . National Security , dont cha know ... "
How can cocktail glass be embedded in a bumper?! Hahaha
He was killed, not by Karen read. I am surprised a grand jury would consider her as the criminal. It’s insane! She is innocent but all his friends are complicit!
He was bleeding freely on top of the snow which means he got thrown out there after most of the snow had fallen
I love seeing Kenny helping on these cases. He makes so much sense. I wish he had his own show, I would watch him all the time.
He really did! Are there injuries to his midsection? If so how high? Can they recreate the type of damage found on the officers body? All great points.
Killed by his fellow officers so called friends.
Karen said there was no problems between him and the police officers he worked with for years even before they started dating.
Vinny is very fair & balanced not like the Hack Julie Grant. Nobody asks the question of why Msp only started finding Tail Light pieces only after Lead Detective Proctor seized Karen Reads Vehicle MSP Detectives & Canton PD committed so many violations corrupt actions this is Malicious Prosecution .
If you listen carefully, you know exactly what he thinks. He just isn’t as obvious about it.
Michael Procter planted evidence around the body
No he didn't are you but?
@@Sharon-xb8ve Are YOU "but"? 😂
@@kitoleummuelotik2411 yes he/she a but haha
Sounds like she is being set up to me
Lol
@@Sharon-xb8vewhat exactly is funny?
@@pistolpete8231 you people are you spend you free time fighting for a woman that abused John, you clap chant free Karen read these RUclipsrs take your money that's what's funny bro, Karen is smiling laughing smirking flirting with Yetti he just getting paid.
@@Sharon-xb8ve Get help.
All LE in MA is corrupt
The reasonable doubt is there
Please get guests on who understand Public speaking and have studied the case.
The guests drive me insane...they need to read the whole case file and THEN give their opinion...."HOS long to die in Cold". Game over.
Agree!!!
Exactly!
Go bleach ur hair ur roots are showing…
Karen is Accused but not guilty - from these videos it seems there is enough evidence for the other party to also stand as accused - this is not fair IMO
If so, their's would be a completely separate case, and they'd have to be arrested, first.
All LE in MA is corrupt
His phone shows him walking into that house and up or down some stairs.... And that google search about how long for someone to freeze to death. 👀
Read is not guilty
I bet Darrell the boomer is part of the butt dial crew, I hope he does more research, he probably believes the butt dials, slower than slow!🥴😮💨
Higgins has magic ass cheeks can make love at 2:22 and Dial the phone
6 days later....not admissible
What?
Cmon, snow melt! Unless you all think they should have xray vision to see under the snow.
@@jaynepetersen454- Or maybe they should have processed the scene correctly on day one to secure all of the alleged evidence at once, especially considering the volatile nature of the scene. They didn't need superpowers to do that. We have this little thing called technology to assist in our discovery. Of course, if you know ahead of time that there's nothing to find, why bother?
Nah, this alleged evidence should have been and would have been found in the snow with the body, not 6 days later at a different depth. All of this nonsense is really just insulting the intelligence of average folks who possess the capacity to reason. Anyone still convinced that this officer was killed by an impact with a vehicle is, at this point, deemed incapable of arriving at logical conclusions.
Are you friends with the killers, Jay? Is that why you're so adamantly dismissive of rational considerations?
@@jaynepetersen454
They claim they found evidence from 5 different searches done in the week after.... Problem is, they were undocumented, no photos, no notes... From a lead detective that had witnesses at his house, and texted them about thank you gifts... The lead detective also lied to the grand jury about being personal friends w/some of the witnesses.
She was def. Set up
Do the Albert's think they are the Kennedys? Getting away with way too much here 😕
They are as crazy as jfk jr 🤡
Oops rfk jr
Karen is innocent.
Let me guess you watch ML?
@@sunshine22723 I have no idea who ML is, so no.
Were you there? If so you better tell the state. Otherwise you don’t know the evidence against her.
@@mauiswift6391 I've been following this case since "hos long to die in cold" came out.
All the evidence points to the house not her
@@hipyshit clearly you have been listening with earplugs in then.
Because of the conflict he never should have been at the scene. Let someone else find the evidence.
this guy is why innocent people are in prison... what a joke
Shouldn't her lawyers have the phone calls in discovery?
The defense has been trying to get the phone records forever.
The judge denied an earlier motion for these phone records. That was before the feds got the call logs & turned them over to the defense.
@@valhallawThe lawyers for the “co-conspirators” do not want to provide this info and will have one last chance to argue to not turn them over at the next hearing.
But the defense already has them from the federal grand jury. But the defense wants more.
@@valhallaw The attempt to hide the phone calls says alot , just by itself .
@@jameskennedy721 Yup.
When the truth comes out those prosecutors need to be investigated with the rest of the pd and state troopers office bottom line
That looks like dog bites kenny Kinsey...i dint hear you mention that. Are you aware thats a possibility?
Lacerations, not dog bites.
Anything is a possibility. Maybe he was a self cutter
YOU SAID THAT SHE MURDERED HER BOYFRIEND, BUT THST HASNT BEEN PROVEN
What a massive coverup by the BPD! And what makes it worse is that no one’s time lines match up!
these people are missing so much.
this is a scam since when do es the state prosecute a hit and run and the ME says he wasnt killed by a car
Massachusetts Corruption, Case No. 23-711, United States Supreme Court
Well if theres no consporicy and nothing to hide then release the records?
You must be new to courts and how things work
@MearnieToon oh no I know exactly how it works..
@@MearnieToonyou must be new to not read sarcasm
maybe those that are framing Karen and put John in the middle of the road were hoping to have "someone's" car run over John and no car drove buy until Karen showed up in the morning...
people should seriously get jobs, they weren't there and shame on them for screaming free somebody and they haven't even heard the case yet
I think she’s innocent
Dog bites Chloe German shepherd
No she never attacked or bit him.
@@Sharon-xb8ve You’re pathetic.
@@IronEaglet-ru8zb Why say that? They're not allowed to reply?
There was no dog DNA found. Even the Defense doesn't dispute this.
@@Sharon-xb8ve were you there?
I would like to know what those people cheering for her know.Has anyone asked?
I wish youd have Ed Wallace as an expert...
Amen to that!
For people who are new to this, bringing you up to speed, Listen to the 6 podcasts of Brandi Churchwell 13th Juror "Conspiracy in Canton" she tells the whole story in detail, then you will know everything in depth.
Ummmm a pod cast with “ conspiracy “ in the title? Be used as credible info? Lol 😵💫😵💫🙄🤡🤡
So then why aren't the authorities using her ?
Lmfao. Smh
It’s funny they tested for John’s blood on his jeans, but did not test whose blood it was on top of the snow.
Mr kenzie, I truly respect you as a lawyer.... But you really should research cases more before you add your two cents. Karen Reed told one of her friends and I want to say it was Jen... The so-called friend..... That she had done a damn thing and backed into a vehicle because she was so panicked on getting over to find john.... This would explain why they were using that as their way to try to frame Karen😐
Mute coffindafer lost her mind 😮😮
He was beaten, .and Chloe attacked him.
If his shoe is missing, that proves to me right there that he was placed there by someone and they didn't know his shoe had fallen off. I mean, why would his shoe be missing otherwise? I know a shoe/s can fall off when hit by a car but that shoe should've been laying right there in the area around where JO was found if it had fallen off, not missing...... Karen Read is innocent.
Free Karen read.
That is 100% dog bites
Vinnie- We call them Turns in Wisconsin, but this doesn’t seem correct with this evidence and his injuries.
Dog.
THE GUY IN THE YELLOW TIE SHOULD LISTEN TO ALL THE CALLS & TEXT BETWEEN ALL THE ALBERTS FAMILY COPS & DETECTIVES
THAT NIGHT AND NEXT DAY WOULD KNOW THEIR COVERING UP FOR SOMEONE.
What going on with her brain tumor.her attorney argued a lesser bail on account of that but was it true or a lie?
The defense does this a lot. They're actually good at it...their tactic is to find a word or phrase that could be interpreted another way (opposite of what should be obvious in the context of the word), then they run with it. They crank it up to 11, and assert it as true. I'm betting she had migraines, went to a physician, and the differential dagnosis could have been some sort of tumor, lesion, etc. The defense took that, then presented it to the court as gospel.
This tactic can be effective
..IF IT IS USED SPARINGLY. Lol. They've been called out and disproven MULTIPLE times. Now, they just look incompetent.
@@AlphaFoxAdam You spelled prosecutors wrong. The FBI is even saying his injuries aren't consistent with the car hitting him.
@@AlphaFoxAdamWhen she was first arrested during her arraignment her lawyer Yanetti said it was a terrible accident. To reduce her bail he listed all her medical issues, including the diagnosis of a brain tumor. I feel they had to drop that real quick, because one thing you cannot do with most brain tumors is drive. Once Read changed her mind about it being a terrible accident, the tumor was dropped.
@@kerrygold6494 also, if it were false, and he persisted, then he proffered to the court a blatant lie (at worst) or a misreprentation (at best). Fair point about driving, as well...I imagine it's type/location/severity/treatment-protocol dependent, but it would be an argument that I'm sure Read wouldn't like to move forward.
Did any of his police friends did anyone try to get in touch with him if they're are expecting him that's night 🌙 🤔
Cheering for a drunk driver.
I'm not sure what your point is. But, is your brain implying that driving drunk means that you are guilty of murder? If so, you're stupid.
Everybody was drunk! 3 law enforcement officers let Karen Drive drunk. A police officer is never off duty! That includes John O’keefe.
@@Mrglock54 Blame the victim. That's what this case is all about. If John was a bus driver or a school teacher, there wouldn't be this circus. It's all about pushing the cop haters narrative. So obvious.
Regardless, cheering and clapping in a court of law should be prohibited. The smoke and mirrors in this case has taken a life of its own.
@@Mrglock54they weren’t driving and knocking their vehicle into people.
I guess I’ll look dumb if I’m wrong but who do you believe, a whole house full of cops and their wives or her? 🤔 I’m sorry but she had more motive to have him not be alive than these people with families!! By now, someone would have confessed! In my opinion!! Let the phone records tell the true story! Im kind of sick of all these people outside the court cheering her on and the smirk that is always on her face!! Let justice prevail!!
Yes I agree and I'm sure someone will have something negative to say 😂❤
Unless the dog attacked, the men attacked him and then killed him accidentally, and needed to cover it up.
Yeah the same cops that lied about being awake. The same wife that strategically said “there’s a man passed out in the snow” The same people that can tell every little detail about everything. However, their careful observation never saw a man passed out in the snow. You won’t look dumb, because you’re not obligated to come up with a theory or to conduct a proper investigation.
Nicky, I couldn't agree more ❤
Look up the cellebrite report and endless phone calls that McAlberts perjured grand jury testimony over.
As impossible as it seems,
.grand conspiracy.
The main reason I believe Karen Read is because no defense lawyer worth their salt would EVER try this if he/she wasn’t convinced of a cover up. He must be VERY confident. Any Lawyers here in comments know I’m right! The retribution would be swift and career ending. Ponder that!
If she was trying to kill him why did she call his phone??
I cant believe the DA even brought thus case against her. Anyone with a brain and ANY critical thinking skills can see she's innocent and the cops are setting her up.
Actually opposite I think. Anyone with a brain and critical thinking knows shes guilty & for ironic coincidences she’s been able to twist this story and ppl are falling for it
No car is going to be moving very fast when lots of snow out to cause this kind of damage
Omg where ya get this guy !
I believe it could be either way. Let the evidence prove the case. All evidence
All relevant and admissible evidence.
You should look into all the evidence here, I’m not a crazy person and not one to just hop on the bandwagon of a conspiracy but this case seems blatantly obvious. There is a mountain of evidence to back that claim. This video doesn’t cover half of it
All the evidence points to the house that's our issue with the case. And the feds with 3000+ pages of the investigation mind you it has more cases involved show she never did anything. Lots of stuff going on around the towns and DA office and ending with this case
@@aoleary5213 ITA. I started out thinking the defense was just putting out a typical distraction effort.
Then I started reading the filings & looking at the publicly available evidence.
And it’s wild. I’ve never even heard of a case that is so transparently a cover up.
The FBI agrees.
@@AlphaFoxAdam it’s that how a trial goes ? That is what all the pretrial hearings are for.
Looks like Karen read is innocent
The atty on the right of the screen said "It wasnt a sloppy investigation" The investigators collected blood evidence in red solo cups
and I want the same Vinnie❤💙 that’s why I reach out to you ❌⭕️😘 Our TurtleRiders are not a mob of minions and certainly are not getting paid. Look at all the receipts Karen’s team brings !
When the movie comes out I believe you should be you on screen❤️💙
Good God, fan girl. Calm your tits. 🤭
What if the dog was there when Brian confronted John or vice versa and once fists started flying… being the aggressive dog it is, it lunged at John biting and scratching and accidentally made him fall and hit his head? Hence the laceration on the back of his head?
How soon after evidence collection was it entered as evidence and how were they verified and documented and labeled as a “tail light cover”?
Broken glass or sharp objects can cause cuts and lacerations.
Yes but that doesn’t explain the entire mountain of evidence showing a coverup
Not like those in the autopsy photos.
Where is the broken glass? Was it collected and matched to the glasses at the bar John drank at?
Those don't look like glass injury
There would have been at least small pieces of glass stuck in the wounds probably if that was the case
How do we know the scratch injuries on his arm could have been done days before the poor guys death ?
No one spoke up and said " He actually got involved in a fight with his lawnmower , I remember well . "
because I wasn't having gay buttsecs the days before hand
Looks like was dragged under the carriage of a vehicle while hoilding a glass...his cuts looked quite deep and they probly bled alot...if the ones that are trying to frame her are proved innocent..then what??
Where is the glass then? It must have been collected at the crime scene?
The wounds look like dog bite marks to me, and I have been bit a few times. Those puncture wounds, you can almost see where a bruise started to form under those punctures. The scratches look like teeth drag marks, when a dog doesn’t get a good biting grip. Were those wounds tested? Is there glass, dog saliva, car paint, anything??
And the wounds are all on one arm, like police dogs are trained to do. idk
And only his arm was scratched?.
One of the Albert family members is a trained boxer. The Albert family’s lawn is where the body of officer O’Keefe was found dead.
But they use the leaf blower at the scene remember😂
Vinnie, Her Finger Nails, Scratch His Arms 😢 ⚖️
These are no fingernails they are much too large.. dog bites and dogs schratches
Friend/coworker/neighbor immediately across from Brian Albert's house, who has a camera facing the street and area in question, could have closed this Case if ONLY he was ordered to give up the video ⁉️😠😤
Don’t forget that Brian Higgins Fire & Explosives Agent went to Federal Facility where Reeds car was being held days after. Why was he there? Could he have planted some of the John’s drinking glass to connect Reeds car to death & taking the light off the ALBERT family who is covering for someone?!