Congratulations on the 90 site campground exclusive rights! You got it by doing things the right way and nobody else can really touch that!! Just last year I began doing bundles to get the monthly income to cover my rent and insurance payments. Bulk sales for me was pretty limited from Sept. to Dec. I haven't really run comparison numbers, but for now I'm happy with having a mix between the two. Great video Phil and Karen!!
Hey, guys. In my humble opinion what really matters at the end of the day is our customer. If some like bulk and some like bundles, as marketers and sellers I believe we should offer both. Stay Blessed! Chip
Enjoyed watching bundles vs bulk! You two are definitely doing everything right and offer the customers a variety which in the long run makes you the “go to” wood yard! Congratulations on the contract with crooked river campground! ⛺️ Maybe a little less running around? I hear Karen saying oh no still lots of running 🏃♂️. ❤️👍🏼
Great video you two. The season for bundling has certainly taken off. We introduced a new item bundling kits. They have been a big big hit. You two are are great team. Have a great holiday weekend.
Love to see some pictures of that , it sounds interesting . This weekend usually is the kick off for tourist season here in Maine and they showed up in force this yr , hopefully it turns out to be a good yr .
@@AllenFamilyFirewood thanks for replying back Phil. I have actually a load going out as we speak. I will send pics. Now don’t laugh how I packaged them. Getting a premo price.
@@BW35bucket I just finished up splitting and stacking my first cord of the day Karen’s inside bagging wood . I like seeing how everyone does things and what works for them .
Great video, you put the reality in the firewood business. I am sure that everyone has their own particular system that suits them. If you do it as a side hustle or it’s your main income it needs to turn a profit and hard work is the main factor, thank you for giving a glimpse of just hard you both work to accomplish that! You inspire many like myself, thank you!
A profit is key for us and we’re always looking for a better way to be more productive as it’s full time for us . We like to show the good the bad and the ugly because it’s real life thing for us and there’s no point in sugar coating the truth . I truly enjoy working in the Woodyard and that’s why I don’t mind being there 7 days a week but I have been known to take off for a bit with a fish pole in hand lol. Maybe this summer I will take the camera when I go off shore tuna fishing and get a lil video of that .
Looks like Campgrounds will keep you busy this summer! I think a stump grinding video is needed for those who want to see it! You have a good handle on those stands this year and I like the new $ box! Nice job you two! ❤💜
Thanks Mom! We're plenty busy with the campground deliveries and keeping the stands stocked. We may video some stump grinding when we do that next and include it in a video. The new money boxes are awesome. The best part is they're all ready to go and we don't have to spend time making them!
Hi you two. It’s really pleasing to see how far you two have come in such a short time, but hard work doing it. Always a pleasure watching you two each and every time you post your videos.
Your busy as bee,s at the wood. Going to be very busy with all those camp grounds. 91 wow that,s alot of camping areas. Great video as always. Take care.
I like everything that y’all are doing bundles I am bulk and I like the fact that y’all have a good campground that you can put the stuff into and people are willing to pay for it. It’s a good idea it’s going to run you silly but I think you’ll like it in the long run. Keep it up Phil. And karen
Thanks Kevin! It sure keeps us busy, but if it pays off in the long run then our time hasn't been wasted. Busy season right now, so we're running our tails off lol The campground alone should keep us plenty busy. Thanks for watching!
Here in Wyoming the hardwood trees don’t grow here, but we have been heating our homes and surviving for a couple hundred years with all the pine and fir spices of wood and have been doing just fine. Pine burns just fine, but we have to get up more often in the middle of the night to throw some more pine in the wood stove.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, you are back to yourself doing interesting videos on the bulk or bundles I'd say whatever brings in the $$$.00 money is money.
Thanks Ben! We go off the rails every now and then but our main focus us constantly producing the wood! Trying to make the most for our labor and hoping it pays off. Thanks for watching!
I will echo @ironmayhew. Watching a stump grinding video would be something different and enjoyable. Phil with all the upcoming decisions facing you, I have no doubt you will figure it all out. Just weeks and weeks of hard work. Everybody that watches regularly knows you two are a hard working couple and it will happen. Phil I'm almost 70 and have been doing laundry for 20 yrs +. If I can do it, you can. It's really quite simple. Honestly. Go on expand your knowledge.😘😘👍👍
Thanks, and stay tuned, we may just do a stump grinding video at some point! lol We're putting 100% in every day and hoping it pays off. I've let Karen take the reins in pricing, we just sold 4 cord of hardwood to a customer for heating wood @ $450/cord. I was tongue tied and she told him the price and he called the next day to order lol
Great video Phil and Karen beautiful little kindling box 📦. Bundles sale for a high price because it a small order Phil and Karen . Peoples sale pick - up load is a joke for sale firewood 🪵 Phil . Cords are the way to go buddy 😊.
Bundles are 2 or more times more work but at 2 the price. I don’t have lot space so I wanna do bundles for the most part. I also been trying to sell green wood. To save some space. Totally upfront about it. I do it for exercise and I enjoy it. Finding getting wood being tuff this year. I don’t have things ready for my stand but in few weeks hope to be selling bundles. I going to put 150 gallon deck box in front of the house. Keep up the good work
Definitely twice as much work . Selling green wood is big business around here and guys are set up to do a 1000 cord so it’s not possible for us to compete with them . Having the space is key to doing large amounts of wood and we are limited on space as well.
Congrats on getting exclusive rights to sell in that campground!! That is awesome. We try to stick to selling bundles and smalls. In our area you can really make more money. We do start selling bulk in the fall to liquidate all our excess inventory. Take care Phil And Karen 👊🏻
Thanks Todd that campground was a big score for us . We’re finding the bundle sales are really promoting the bulk sales of pine . This fall we will wait till everyone in the area has sold out of hardwood and then put the word out .
Another great video loved watching it. I think you’re gonna have to do it all bundles and bulk. It’s the only way you can make money nowadays I only do bulk with my processor because I’m usually trucking every day and I just do it in the evenings and weekends only thing I wonder is instead of the bags would the plastic wrap be cheaper I don’t know I’ve never done it. You guys have a great day and holiday weekend and I will be up to see your operation this summer. Keep the videos coming again,Lee Hillsgrove truck and signing off.👍
@@AllenFamilyFirewood you as well I did two log truck loads today and it’s about 2:30 In the afternoon and it’s pretty wild out there already so now I’m gonna get off the road adjust some brakes and do some greasing and also get my processor ready for the weekend. I enjoyed meeting you too in Vermont. when Mr. Mike took over the new splitter, but I’ll be meeting you both again this summer keep the videos coming love watching them, Have a safe holiday and again Lee Hillsgrove trucking signing off👍
Being versatile really attracts differents customers which sets you apart from the competition. Then you add your lumber sales, your pretty much a one stop shop for anything wood. In my experience, people like dealing with one person for their firewood or lumber needs because of honesty and the product description. You guys put out a great product, you have a great personality, and your honest. If someone pays for a half cord or a cord, you give them what they pay for. About 5 years ago I had a guy ask me if I had many repeat customers when selling firewood. I told him most of my customers were repeat customers and referrals from repeat customers. He said he asked the same question to another firewood dealer in my area and the dealer said he didn't have hardly any repeat customers. Needless to say this guy has been a repeat customer for the last 5 years now. So I guess the moral of the story is keep doing what your doing with bundles and bulk because every customer is your number one customer and that can lead to repeat customers and referrals. Great video as always guys!
I agree Jon word of mouth is the best advertising you can get and it’s always worked for us . Now we just need to keep up with demand because word has spread fast . Hopefully by this time next yr we will have most everything figured out and it will be smooth sailing
Hello Phil and Karen. I’m getting tired just watching all the work you’ve done and all the work you still have ahead of you. Hopefully all this works out to full pockets. I think on the bundled wood where you pay out a percentage of the money to the person that lets you put the stand on their property you shouldn’t do a 3 for pricing. You should sell it all by the single bundle price to help cover the extra cost. In business a deal for the customer can be a big loss for the owner. Just the convenience of being able to grab a bundle of wood while driving someplace is a plus for the customer. You guys do the extra work, so you should be able to reap the benefits. Thanks for another good video.
There’s a bundle stand on every corner around here and some for as low as $ 4 ea so it’s competitive. It works out to about $4 ea for us times 128 equals $512 pr cord and that’s just over double our cord price . Maybe as we go forward we can up the price so we will be able to keep up with the demand . This time of yr it’s 7 days a week and 10-12 hr days . 20 yrs ago id put in 16 hr days but I’m to old for that crazy stuff now .
Love watching your videos. We are starting to cut back on the bundle production, bulk wood seems to be the way to go. We sell one of our road side stand. Half hard wood and half Softwood ( aspen,Pine,Basswood) We sell more bulk than bundles by far. It seems that bundles are labor intensive. The area we are in is a good spot right on the highway, lost is minimal for us in bulk. Wondering if we will have enough inventory for the summer. Hope to get to meet you at Bunyan 2024.
Our bundle sales are the best for us, although this year bulk has really ramped up. We live in a high tourist area because of the lakes, and campers buy the bundles like crazy. We’re trying to stay ahead of the game and have both, but it can change and we don’t want to be stuck with me or the other, although we know we can always sell it next year if not this year. The season is just getting underway and our bundle sales are doing really well. Would love to meet you at the Bunyan show! Thanks Jason!
What do you do with the slabs from the sawmill? You should cut it into firewood and bundle it for campgrounds. It would give you more other wood for bulk. You should also bundle the shorts and uglys fill a couple of bundle bags full of them. I have a feeling you would sell those as well at campgrounds. Give the people options. But it also gives you an opportunity to make money on your buy product and by selling your buy products you have more good wood to sell. It is a win-win. Just an idea. All you can do is try. I know if i was personally at a campground that offered beautiful pin bundles or off cut shorts hardwood. I would choose the hardwood every time. I would probably get a bundle of pine to get the fire going, but then hardwood offcuts for the rest of the night. Pine burns too quickly, and i like coals, but everyone is different. Great video, as always you to keep up the great work.
We found that people don’t like slabs for some reason especially in the bundles we tested that last yr and every time the bought the split wood . I did try and bag some of the shorts but they don’t stack very well on a pallet for delivery so we are trying to sell them as bulk . I think next yr we will gear up and do hardwood bundles as people seem to like the hardwood just as much . For now we have been using a few slabs mixed in with the bulk orders or setting it aside for making kindling but some eventually gets hauled off to the mulch plant .
Wood coming in and wood going out always makes me happy . Been a long winter with no $ coming in so it’s nice to see the cash coming in as well . Thanks Todd
It was a funny video I will still watch your videos as I sold my firewood business after 20 years it was tiime I needed to move on and spend more time with friends and family 20 years was enough I was a 1 man band and did 40 tri-axle loads of wood last year I am 65 now and just need to move on and have fun will still be a fan
That’s alot of work for one guy wow . I’m only 54 so I hope I still have at least 10 yrs ahead of to keep at it . After yrs of having a tree service I figured heck I can just sit back and play in the wood yard now but I don’t seem to have that ability to slow down I just keep adding on more lol . Most days Karen just shakes her head at me and lets me do my thing lol.
We went to the international firewood expo. Was a good time and got to meet a few more RUclipsrs. I even got to eat two meals cooked over Ohio wood burners wood! Was good fun. Peace
From the few videos we saw it looked like a good time . Being our busy time we just couldn’t get away to make it . Wish we could have but it’s a short selling season here in Maine and we need to make the $ when it’s here .
Aside from everything else, you have to produce what your customers want, presuming you price it for the profit you need. The second thing, is your sources of wood, take everything they can give you. Third, Keep up. Assuming bundle wood is premium stuff, Phil and Buster are real good at splitting it. If you are well set for processing in the barn on rainy days, if you could store it under cover, well, wood doesn't go bad. I have a suggestion for you to consider. On my pallets, I have two sides and a back. So, I stack across the front which makes a temporary wall, I throw a stack against the back wall, and I fill in the middle any which way. I have no idea if that would work for you at all, but it is a choke point stacking on the pallets. Fix one choke point, you will find another anyhow.
We try to produce what they want but we’re finding the bundle sales are leading to more bulk sales they buy a few bundles then order a load of bulk . I wish we had a huge place to store bagged wood inside . Your set up for stacking on pallets sounds like a good idea . I’d like to figure out a way to stack pallets on top of each other as well . Right now we only get the small loads of wood from the tree guys , there big jobs of 3 or more cord they pay a log truck to come haul it off because we can’t get it off the job fast enuf . I’d eventually like to have a log truck so we could get all there saw logs and firewood logs . They had a job today ware they pd to have $3000 worth of saw logs haled away and they have to pay 300 for every load . they also had another load of just pine firewood . Just gota keep selling woud till I can save up enuf to buy a small log truck .
Hey you two. I think your best to handle both bundles and bulk. Sure is nice to drop bulk goes fast and no theft cash in hand. Whatever works to move the wood. See you.
I think there’s a lot less headache with doing the bulk but I like that extra $ from checking the stands . Just something about opening that box an having it full of cash .
You were represented at the International Firewood Expo in Ohio last weekend. I wore my Allen Family Firewood T-shirt to it. Several people asked if I knew you and I told them that they could meet you at the Paul Bunyon show this year. You had a lot of fans there. That kindling box looks like it will work. Easier to handle than the large wood one.
Thanks Jim for representing! Appreciate that, and so nice to hear we were thought of. Would love to get to more of the shows but time is a big hurdle! We look forward to the Bunyan show and meeting a lot of new people and seeing old friends like you! The kindling box is going to work great, a big time saver for sure!
Poor Phil has to stack😅 Looks like you guys are gonna have a busy summer with the campgrounds and now an extra $tand. I hope yas make a million this year❤
I been pushing her perdy hard lately trying to keep up with all the orders so I figured it best not to ask her to stack this time lol. We wanted to double the amount of stands this yr and so far we have done that plus an extra . Just hoping we can keep up now .
Hey Phil and Karen! The two of you need to clone yourselves so that you have a second splitter and a second stacker! 6or8 months of the year I sell mixed hardwood huge firepit bundles at $12 each or 4 for $45 and my barkless premium pizza and smoking wood bundles are $20 each ! I sell fireplace and heating wood 🪵 in October and November for $150-$180 per half cord and $300 per cord plus delivery fees. The motto for my side hustle is that I make and sell what the customers “want” … and it all works out well 😊
That's great prices you're getting for your bundles Ken. We definitely could use more hands on deck! We're just learning about hardwood for campfires...no one has ever asked for it before now, but that's something we are looking into now. Our heating wood we sell in November/December for $450/cord. It's always a learning curve to figure out the best way to sell it...small or large. It all sure keeps us busy!
Quality, consistency, dependability are the three key factors for success. The Falmouth Lion's have taken on the biggest challenge of our 75 years of existence . We are in the process of providing a new home for a family in need in West Falmouth.
The difference between bulk and bundles depends totally on which way you can process faster. Bulk is faster but the bundles has a higher profit margin. I think it’s good to do some of each so that you don’t have all your eggs in one basket.
That’s kinda what we’re doing but I’m seeing the bundle sales are promoting the bulk sales but for us the bundles bring more than twice the $ bulk does
I'm curious how anyone would only split and sell bundle wood. Would you just hold out for absolutely perfect bundle grade firewood poles? Anyway, I guess the great thing about splitting for bundle wood is that it can always be sold as bulk firewood if necessary. The beauty of the vertical splitter is that you can sort (grade) your splits into different bins while you are splitting. That's what ultimately sold me on the Axis.
That’s basically what we do. It can’t all be perfect bundle grade wood, you’re always going to get the less desirable splits. We sell those for bulk wood. The vertical splitter is definitely the way to go for bundle wood. That Axis is a great splitter!
Great video.my stump grinding pays for my firewood addiction.225.00 cord here for hardwood.3.00 to 4.00 per inch on stumps.If I'm lucky I sell 40 cord a year..
That's a good business you have going. The stump grinding definitely supplements our income, but it's for a limited time. Sounds like you're doing it right!
What a question. I helped my nephew get into the game three years ago. The bundles are a full time job all by themselves. I convinced him to but up his contact information at each stand and list the different ways to purchase his product. He has now turned the stands over to his son and is only doing bulk. They are going gang busters and can barely keep up. They both make a great argument for each way of selling. My nephew says there is to much time involved in bundles not to mention the theft and stand maintenance. But readily admits bundles built their business. My great nephew who is 17 by the way, says he only requires 2/3 the amount of wood for the same profit. They work together because neither has time to do both. I sold wood in the late 80’s through middle 90’s bundles were not a thing. But I did deliver to camp grounds. I worked it out for a twenty five percent higher price than full cord orders. Plus delivery. I heard you say you were about out of wood. Did you remember to take the stock out of the kiln project? Have a great day.
We actually just ordered signs for each stand that says we deliver 1/4 cord 1/2 cord and full cord with our contact info but I’m not sure I dare put them out lol . We can barely keep up now so they might be for next yr . We are finding that bundles and bulk kinda go hand in hand. They buy a few bundles then decide to just order half a cord so it’s been keeping us more than busy trying to keep up with both .
They all say because they have a higher price on their bundles. They always say that if you sell a quarter firewood by button, you make more money, but as you guys say you you do, but it's not as big as different from what you guys get in your area proprising, but I think you're always gonna be into a little bit of boat. Because you're gonna want those people that are at the can't run for a week.Set a time remote that I'm gonna buy the bulk.And then you're gonna have people that just show up for the weekends or they're gonna wait for the weekend and those people are gonna stop and buy the bags
We are finding the bundle sales really promote the bulk sales . They buy a few bundles then just order a half cord so I guess it’s important to do both . I think eventually I’d like to do more of the bundles sales but for now we need to do both .
I just got a roadside stand up and running last Thursday. Just bundles as I'm thinking the folks going to the campgrounds past my location are in loaded down SUV's. At first I thought you meant bulk wood ( like in 20 dollar sections) as many do. The state campgrounds here would probably not let be bring in a load for sale as they sell wood at the park store.
We have had good luck with the stands so I think you will be happy especially if your on a busy rd . A lot of the camp grounds around here are the same way and we try to get them campgrounds as our customer .
I dont separate "ugly wood" from "bundle grade", i bag it all together and my customers have nevee complained. As long as it burns, they're happy. The bags really shine as far as display goes, I could have a bunch of uglys in one bag and perfect splits in another bag, but next to each other in the stand they look identical, and burn the same. I think you'll find a lot of time savings not worrying about separating bundle grade from ugly
That would definitely make life easier, but we find it's so much easier to make the bundles with wood that is consistent in size. We're making 100's upon 100's of bundles, so if the wood is twisted and crooked, it just doesn't bag well. We find it works best for us to separate the two so we know what we have for bundles and what we have for bulk deliveries. We have it all on pallets, so we also know by counting the pallets how many cord or how many bundles we have available. It definitely all burns the same though! Everyone has their own system, that's why this is such a great community. We can all share and learn from each other!
@@AllenFamilyFirewood yup I hear ya. I don't sell nearly as many bags as you guys but I still do close to 2000 a summer. The EZ bagger helps a lot, it's similar to the wolf ridge bagger. Personally that's why I prefer selling racks of firewood @ $20 a rack. Way faster to refill them! I have almost 20 racks ready to go at once at the end of the driveway now!
I believe that given the quality of your product, you can focus on bags and use what you consider “uglies” for your bulk deliveries. Do bear in mind that what your term uglies is most wood sellers premium product.
I must be to picky cause everyone else says the same thing that our ugly pile is nice stuff . We generally just deliver the uglys for bulk but now I’m not grading it out it’s all going into the bulk pile because we can’t seem to stay ahead of the orders . Thanks mark
good video and job i would prefer the bulk side lot less work. theres no fire wood market here anymore. welfare has put heat pumps and etc. in all there houses and most others cut there own. the places here that sell bundles they have been there so long all the plastic has rotted off. unless you get some help i don;t think you can keep working this hard. take care, be safe and well.
That stinks the market is gone in your area but your right they give them everything they want . The rest of us still have to keep pushing extra hard to get by in today’s world .
Good to know guys...all areas are different in what type of wood sells. We've never sold bundles through the winter, but we're looking into a couple stands we could possibly leave out during the winter to sell hardwood. We do sell bulk hardwood in the fall/winter. That's always been a good market in our area.
Any high school students around there that need a part-time job. I feel you could use an extra set of hands around there this summer. Stacking and making bundles.
A couple issues with that...we haven't found any kids that want to work and we have limited cash to spend. We could definitely benefit from an extra set of hands but we're doing our best to keep our bases covered!
Bundles are a great way to make some extra money but unreliable because of the fire bans .. my advice to bundles is keep doing it but don't spend the money before you sell any.. I learned this the hard way.. fireban from May to August last year
Boy, that’s rough. Don’t recall any fire bans here. They won’t issue burn permits when it’s really dry but haven’t seen campfire bans. Although I suppose campgrounds can place a ban if they choose to
@@AllenFamilyFirewood different here in Ontario Canada.. the Ministry of Natural Resources can and are hire than the fire chief... lost roughly 30 to 40k in extra sales from May to August. Biggest hit was a campground we supply 3k bundles not delivered to 1 customer..
I think bundles should always be more profitable than bulk. A small price hike (50c - 1$) per bundle would probably make a difference in the profitability given the number of bundles you sell.
I think you could work out the better sales yourselves. It will be only cost and time to produce, do not follow what others do but pick out the any good parts that you may see.
That's pretty much what we do John. We keep our eyes on what others are doing, but if something is working for us we aren't going to change it. The old saying goes...if it ain't broke, don't fix it! lol
I only do bundles and boxes of pizza wood.. if we shrink wrap bundles we charge 6 for em if they are bagged i charge 7 bucks for em.. had that price since 2021 .. and i got 14 people making bundles and 5 of us cutting and splitting and filling the kilns .. you could charge more than 5 bucks for bundles i havent seen a gas station under 7 or 8 bucks in years now yall.. but them fish are calling my name again.. lol.
Wow that’s good $ and I’d like to go more towards the bundle side but the bulk orders keep growing as well . Right now it’s just the 2 of us but that’s going to have to change if this keep growing . It’s almost time to go out off shore an get some tuna fishing in around here . It’s not wood but I might just throw a tuna fishing video in the mix just for fun .
That works good if you have a huge cement area that will fit a 100 or more cord . Trying to scoop it up off the ground will add a lot of dirt to the load and the customer never likes that . We use the pallets because the wood drys better on them and they take up less space than piles .
You can’t do bundles and not do bulk. Unless of course you want to dispose of all the uglies safely and responsibly here at our place. I have a place for 3 cord for sure.
The money that you're costing yourself to build these stands is not worth it deals directly with the campgrounds and have a stand set up over there where you are you will make more money in bulk handle hardwood and Pine in bulk how the hell with the bundles is too many people doing it's not worth the aggravation you could be selling lumber for a lot more money than what you're spending on building stands
Making lumber definitely pays way better than firewood and we do sell some lumber but I enjoy everything about firewood . We tryed hard to get into the campgrounds this yr but didn’t have much luck as there bundle supplier . Next yr I will have hardwood bundles and see were that takes us . Having our stands around the lake has worked so far . Last yr was our first yr and only had out 3 stand and we sold about 4000 bundles . Eventually I’d like to be up around 20,000 bundles
Congratulations on the Crooked River account WOOT WOOT 🥳❣️
Thanks Kim! Great people! 😊
Love the sounds of the wood tumblin in
Good topic as well
It's a great sound! Thanks!
Thank you! We try to explore different areas to learn from all of you, and maybe help someone else along the way
Congratulations on the 90 site campground exclusive rights! You got it by doing things the right way and nobody else can really touch that!! Just last year I began doing bundles to get the monthly income to cover my rent and insurance payments. Bulk sales for me was pretty limited from Sept. to Dec. I haven't really run comparison numbers, but for now I'm happy with having a mix between the two. Great video Phil and Karen!!
Thanks Bill! That campground combined with our expanded bundle stands will keep us plenty busy!
Hey, guys. In my humble opinion what really matters at the end of the day is our customer. If some like bulk and some like bundles, as marketers and sellers I believe we should offer both. Stay Blessed! Chip
Exactly, that’s why we do both. Thanks Chip!
Great job guys! Keep up the great work! - Tim
Thanks Tim!
Enjoyed watching bundles vs bulk! You two are definitely doing everything right and offer the customers a variety which in the long run makes you the “go to” wood yard! Congratulations on the contract with crooked river campground! ⛺️ Maybe a little less running around? I hear Karen saying oh no still lots of running 🏃♂️. ❤️👍🏼
Thanks Sue! No rest for the wicked! lol
Great video you two. The season for bundling has certainly taken off. We introduced a new item bundling kits. They have been a big big hit. You two are are great team. Have a great holiday weekend.
Love to see some pictures of that , it sounds interesting . This weekend usually is the kick off for tourist season here in Maine and they showed up in force this yr , hopefully it turns out to be a good yr .
@@AllenFamilyFirewood thanks for replying back Phil. I have actually a load going out as we speak. I will send pics. Now don’t laugh how I packaged them. Getting a premo price.
@@BW35bucket I just finished up splitting and stacking my first cord of the day Karen’s inside bagging wood . I like seeing how everyone does things and what works for them .
Great video, you put the reality in the firewood business. I am sure that everyone has their own particular system that suits them. If you do it as a side hustle or it’s your main income it needs to turn a profit and hard work is the main factor, thank you for giving a glimpse of just hard you both work to accomplish that! You inspire many like myself, thank you!
A profit is key for us and we’re always looking for a better way to be more productive as it’s full time for us . We like to show the good the bad and the ugly because it’s real life thing for us and there’s no point in sugar coating the truth . I truly enjoy working in the Woodyard and that’s why I don’t mind being there 7 days a week but I have been known to take off for a bit with a fish pole in hand lol. Maybe this summer I will take the camera when I go off shore tuna fishing and get a lil video of that .
Looks like Campgrounds will keep you busy this summer! I think a stump grinding video is needed for those who want to see it! You have a good handle on those stands this year and I like the new $ box! Nice job you two! ❤💜
Thanks Mom! We're plenty busy with the campground deliveries and keeping the stands stocked. We may video some stump grinding when we do that next and include it in a video. The new money boxes are awesome. The best part is they're all ready to go and we don't have to spend time making them!
Hi you two. It’s really pleasing to see how far you two have come in such a short time, but hard work doing it. Always a pleasure watching you two each and every time you post your videos.
Thanks Wayne, we appreciate that! Sure is a lot of hard work, maybe one day we can retire lol. Thanks for watching!
I do both!! Depends on the customer!! Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day
Exactly David! Staying hydrated for sure, the hot weather has arrived! Take care!
Looking good... you guys being busy woodchuckers!
Thanks Brent! Busy is an understatement! lol Will you be at the Bunyan show this year?
Hi Phil and Karen!!😀😀
Great to see business is booming!! 👍👍
Keep up the good work!!😀😀
Logger Al
Thanks Al it’s been non stop here for a few weeks now but in a few months it will all slow down gota make the $ while it’s here .
Your busy as bee,s at the wood. Going to be very busy with all those camp grounds. 91 wow that,s alot of camping areas. Great video as always. Take care.
Thanks Ewen! We are really busy right now, and that campground was a big bonus. Thanks for always watching and commenting!
I like everything that y’all are doing bundles I am bulk and I like the fact that y’all have a good campground that you can put the stuff into and people are willing to pay for it. It’s a good idea it’s going to run you silly but I think you’ll like it in the long run. Keep it up Phil. And karen
Thanks Kevin! It sure keeps us busy, but if it pays off in the long run then our time hasn't been wasted. Busy season right now, so we're running our tails off lol The campground alone should keep us plenty busy. Thanks for watching!
Here in Wyoming the hardwood trees don’t grow here, but we have been heating our homes and surviving for a couple hundred years with all the pine and fir spices of wood and have been doing just fine. Pine burns just fine, but we have to get up more often in the middle of the night to throw some more pine in the wood stove.
Thanks for the education, we didn’t realize that! Everyone needs to do things a little differently depending on where you are. Thanks for watching!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, you are back to yourself doing interesting videos on the bulk or bundles I'd say whatever brings in the $$$.00 money is money.
Thanks Ben! We go off the rails every now and then but our main focus us constantly producing the wood! Trying to make the most for our labor and hoping it pays off. Thanks for watching!
I will echo @ironmayhew. Watching a stump grinding video would be something different and enjoyable. Phil with all the upcoming decisions facing you, I have no doubt you will figure it all out. Just weeks and weeks of hard work. Everybody that watches regularly knows you two are a hard working couple and it will happen. Phil I'm almost 70 and have been doing laundry for 20 yrs +. If I can do it, you can. It's really quite simple. Honestly. Go on expand your knowledge.😘😘👍👍
Thanks, and stay tuned, we may just do a stump grinding video at some point! lol We're putting 100% in every day and hoping it pays off. I've let Karen take the reins in pricing, we just sold 4 cord of hardwood to a customer for heating wood @ $450/cord. I was tongue tied and she told him the price and he called the next day to order lol
Great video Phil and Karen beautiful little kindling box 📦. Bundles sale for a high price because it a small order Phil and Karen . Peoples sale pick - up load is a joke for sale firewood 🪵 Phil . Cords are the way to go buddy 😊.
We charge alot more for the half cord orders so they actually pay better and make it worth our time
I would love to see a stump grinding video.
Stay tuned Josh we may have to resort to that! lol
Bundles are 2 or more times more work but at 2 the price. I don’t have lot space so I wanna do bundles for the most part. I also been trying to sell green wood. To save some space. Totally upfront about it. I do it for exercise and I enjoy it. Finding getting wood being tuff this year. I don’t have things ready for my stand but in few weeks hope to be selling bundles. I going to put 150 gallon deck box in front of the house. Keep up the good work
Definitely twice as much work . Selling green wood is big business around here and guys are set up to do a 1000 cord so it’s not possible for us to compete with them . Having the space is key to doing large amounts of wood and we are limited on space as well.
Congrats on getting exclusive rights to sell in that campground!! That is awesome. We try to stick to selling bundles and smalls. In our area you can really make more money. We do start selling bulk in the fall to liquidate all our excess inventory. Take care Phil And Karen 👊🏻
Thanks Todd that campground was a big score for us . We’re finding the bundle sales are really promoting the bulk sales of pine . This fall we will wait till everyone in the area has sold out of hardwood and then put the word out .
nice score at the campground!
We definitely was not expecting that and I’m sure we will have a new game plan for next yr so we can handle all the orders .
Another great video loved watching it. I think you’re gonna have to do it all bundles and bulk. It’s the only way you can make money nowadays I only do bulk with my processor because I’m usually trucking every day and I just do it in the evenings and weekends only thing I wonder is instead of the bags would the plastic wrap be cheaper I don’t know I’ve never done it. You guys have a great day and holiday weekend and I will be up to see your operation this summer. Keep the videos coming again,Lee Hillsgrove truck and signing off.👍
Thanks Lee, we agree. Kinda have to do both, they just go hand in hand. Look forward to meeting you! Have a great weekend!
@@AllenFamilyFirewood you as well I did two log truck loads today and it’s about 2:30 In the afternoon and it’s pretty wild out there already so now I’m gonna get off the road adjust some brakes and do some greasing and also get my processor ready for the weekend. I enjoyed meeting you too in Vermont. when Mr. Mike took over the new splitter, but I’ll be meeting you both again this summer keep the videos coming love watching them, Have a safe holiday and again Lee Hillsgrove trucking signing off👍
Being versatile really attracts differents customers which sets you apart from the competition. Then you add your lumber sales, your pretty much a one stop shop for anything wood. In my experience, people like dealing with one person for their firewood or lumber needs because of honesty and the product description. You guys put out a great product, you have a great personality, and your honest. If someone pays for a half cord or a cord, you give them what they pay for. About 5 years ago I had a guy ask me if I had many repeat customers when selling firewood. I told him most of my customers were repeat customers and referrals from repeat customers. He said he asked the same question to another firewood dealer in my area and the dealer said he didn't have hardly any repeat customers. Needless to say this guy has been a repeat customer for the last 5 years now. So I guess the moral of the story is keep doing what your doing with bundles and bulk because every customer is your number one customer and that can lead to repeat customers and referrals. Great video as always guys!
I agree Jon word of mouth is the best advertising you can get and it’s always worked for us . Now we just need to keep up with demand because word has spread fast . Hopefully by this time next yr we will have most everything figured out and it will be smooth sailing
Hello Phil and Karen. I’m getting tired just watching all the work you’ve done and all the work you still have ahead of you. Hopefully all this works out to full pockets. I think on the bundled wood where you pay out a percentage of the money to the person that lets you put the stand on their property you shouldn’t do a 3 for pricing. You should sell it all by the single bundle price to help cover the extra cost. In business a deal for the customer can be a big loss for the owner. Just the convenience of being able to grab a bundle of wood while driving someplace is a plus for the customer. You guys do the extra work, so you should be able to reap the benefits. Thanks for another good video.
There’s a bundle stand on every corner around here and some for as low as $ 4 ea so it’s competitive. It works out to about $4 ea for us times 128 equals $512 pr cord and that’s just over double our cord price . Maybe as we go forward we can up the price so we will be able to keep up with the demand . This time of yr it’s 7 days a week and 10-12 hr days . 20 yrs ago id put in 16 hr days but I’m to old for that crazy stuff now .
Wish I had the correct answer. We do less bulk but with the processor may up our bulk game.
The bulk around here is a never enuf game . No one can produce enuf yet they all but give it away . The bundles seems the way to go for us .
Love watching your videos. We are starting to cut back on the bundle production, bulk wood seems to be the way to go. We sell one of our road side stand. Half hard wood and half Softwood ( aspen,Pine,Basswood) We sell more bulk than bundles by far. It seems that bundles are labor intensive. The area we are in is a good spot right on the highway, lost is minimal for us in bulk. Wondering if we will have enough inventory for the summer. Hope to get to meet you at Bunyan 2024.
Our bundle sales are the best for us, although this year bulk has really ramped up. We live in a high tourist area because of the lakes, and campers buy the bundles like crazy. We’re trying to stay ahead of the game and have both, but it can change and we don’t want to be stuck with me or the other, although we know we can always sell it next year if not this year. The season is just getting underway and our bundle sales are doing really well. Would love to meet you at the Bunyan show! Thanks Jason!
What do you do with the slabs from the sawmill? You should cut it into firewood and bundle it for campgrounds. It would give you more other wood for bulk. You should also bundle the shorts and uglys fill a couple of bundle bags full of them. I have a feeling you would sell those as well at campgrounds. Give the people options. But it also gives you an opportunity to make money on your buy product and by selling your buy products you have more good wood to sell. It is a win-win. Just an idea. All you can do is try. I know if i was personally at a campground that offered beautiful pin bundles or off cut shorts hardwood. I would choose the hardwood every time. I would probably get a bundle of pine to get the fire going, but then hardwood offcuts for the rest of the night. Pine burns too quickly, and i like coals, but everyone is different. Great video, as always you to keep up the great work.
We found that people don’t like slabs for some reason especially in the bundles we tested that last yr and every time the bought the split wood . I did try and bag some of the shorts but they don’t stack very well on a pallet for delivery so we are trying to sell them as bulk . I think next yr we will gear up and do hardwood bundles as people seem to like the hardwood just as much . For now we have been using a few slabs mixed in with the bulk orders or setting it aside for making kindling but some eventually gets hauled off to the mulch plant .
Karen and Phil you guys look 👀 like 👍 things are going very well for now 😮😊❤
Wood coming in and wood going out always makes me happy . Been a long winter with no $ coming in so it’s nice to see the cash coming in as well . Thanks Todd
It was a funny video I will still watch your videos as I sold my firewood business after 20 years it was tiime I needed to move on and spend more time with friends and family 20 years was enough I was a 1 man band and did 40 tri-axle loads of wood last year I am 65 now and just need to move on and have fun will still be a fan
That’s alot of work for one guy wow . I’m only 54 so I hope I still have at least 10 yrs ahead of to keep at it . After yrs of having a tree service I figured heck I can just sit back and play in the wood yard now but I don’t seem to have that ability to slow down I just keep adding on more lol . Most days Karen just shakes her head at me and lets me do my thing lol.
HOLY COW!!
Thanks Martin! Holy cow is right! The cows at the farm are watching us run around delivering and everything and one laughed at us the other day! lol
We went to the international firewood expo. Was a good time and got to meet a few more RUclipsrs. I even got to eat two meals cooked over Ohio wood burners wood! Was good fun. Peace
From the few videos we saw it looked like a good time . Being our busy time we just couldn’t get away to make it . Wish we could have but it’s a short selling season here in Maine and we need to make the $ when it’s here .
Aside from everything else, you have to produce what your customers want, presuming you price it for the profit you need. The second thing, is your sources of wood, take everything they can give you. Third, Keep up. Assuming bundle wood is premium stuff, Phil and Buster are real good at splitting it. If you are well set for processing in the barn on rainy days, if you could store it under cover, well, wood doesn't go bad. I have a suggestion for you to consider. On my pallets, I have two sides and a back. So, I stack across the front which makes a temporary wall, I throw a stack against the back wall, and I fill in the middle any which way. I have no idea if that would work for you at all, but it is a choke point stacking on the pallets. Fix one choke point, you will find another anyhow.
We try to produce what they want but we’re finding the bundle sales are leading to more bulk sales they buy a few bundles then order a load of bulk . I wish we had a huge place to store bagged wood inside . Your set up for stacking on pallets sounds like a good idea . I’d like to figure out a way to stack pallets on top of each other as well . Right now we only get the small loads of wood from the tree guys , there big jobs of 3 or more cord they pay a log truck to come haul it off because we can’t get it off the job fast enuf . I’d eventually like to have a log truck so we could get all there saw logs and firewood logs . They had a job today ware they pd to have $3000 worth of saw logs haled away and they have to pay 300 for every load . they also had another load of just pine firewood . Just gota keep selling woud till I can save up enuf to buy a small log truck .
Great video. Nice score on the campground. Nice. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
Bye guys. 👍🏻👍🏻👋👋
Thanks Noel! We're chasing our tails and that was a nice result! Take care!
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Hey you two. I think your best to handle both bundles and bulk. Sure is nice to drop bulk goes fast and no theft cash in hand. Whatever works to move the wood. See you.
Good point on the bulk, Al. They both go hand in hand so we really have to do both. Have a great weekend!
Nice. Video
Thanks Ralph! Appreciate you always watching and commenting! Take care!
I enjoy the bulk sales side of things. I do have a few that do really small sales for and i make it fair for both of us.
I think there’s a lot less headache with doing the bulk but I like that extra $ from checking the stands . Just something about opening that box an having it full of cash .
You were represented at the International Firewood Expo in Ohio last weekend. I wore my Allen Family Firewood T-shirt to it. Several people asked if I knew you and I told them that they could meet you at the Paul Bunyon show this year. You had a lot of fans there. That kindling box looks like it will work. Easier to handle than the large wood one.
Thanks Jim for representing! Appreciate that, and so nice to hear we were thought of. Would love to get to more of the shows but time is a big hurdle! We look forward to the Bunyan show and meeting a lot of new people and seeing old friends like you! The kindling box is going to work great, a big time saver for sure!
I’ll be coming down James sometime to your cabins I sat beside you on them big concrete slabs in hocking hills
Poor Phil has to stack😅
Looks like you guys are gonna have a busy summer with the campgrounds and now an extra $tand. I hope yas make a million this year❤
I been pushing her perdy hard lately trying to keep up with all the orders so I figured it best not to ask her to stack this time lol. We wanted to double the amount of stands this yr and so far we have done that plus an extra . Just hoping we can keep up now .
When I made bundle wood for a campground last year it was all hardwood. Actually they got premium because all I had was maple and cherry.
The campground I bought to had 100 campsites. I did find I spent lots of time bundling
That seems to be what we're seeing more of now, but the pine still sells really well.
We're figuring that campground will occupy a lot of our time
Hey Phil and Karen! The two of you need to clone yourselves so that you have a second splitter and a second stacker!
6or8 months of the year I sell mixed hardwood huge firepit bundles at $12 each or 4 for $45 and my barkless premium pizza and smoking wood bundles are $20 each !
I sell fireplace and heating wood 🪵 in October and November for $150-$180 per half cord and $300 per cord plus delivery fees.
The motto for my side hustle is that I make and sell what the customers “want” … and it all works out well 😊
That's great prices you're getting for your bundles Ken. We definitely could use more hands on deck! We're just learning about hardwood for campfires...no one has ever asked for it before now, but that's something we are looking into now. Our heating wood we sell in November/December for $450/cord. It's always a learning curve to figure out the best way to sell it...small or large. It all sure keeps us busy!
Quality, consistency, dependability are the three key factors for success. The Falmouth Lion's have taken on the biggest challenge of our 75 years of existence . We are in the process of providing a new home for a family in need in West Falmouth.
If ya don’t have all 3 ya won’t be in business very long . That’s a big challenge John wow but I know the lions club can do it
If I had my way I’d do just bulk and my roadside racks. I’d like to get 3-4 more roadside locations but there is only so much time.
That alone seems to be keeping us pretty busy. There's not enough time in a day, that's for sure!
The difference between bulk and bundles depends totally on which way you can process faster. Bulk is faster but the bundles has a higher profit margin. I think it’s good to do some of each so that you don’t have all your eggs in one basket.
That’s kinda what we’re doing but I’m seeing the bundle sales are promoting the bulk sales but for us the bundles bring more than twice the $ bulk does
I'm curious how anyone would only split and sell bundle wood. Would you just hold out for absolutely perfect bundle grade firewood poles? Anyway, I guess the great thing about splitting for bundle wood is that it can always be sold as bulk firewood if necessary. The beauty of the vertical splitter is that you can sort (grade) your splits into different bins while you are splitting. That's what ultimately sold me on the Axis.
That’s basically what we do. It can’t all be perfect bundle grade wood, you’re always going to get the less desirable splits. We sell those for bulk wood. The vertical splitter is definitely the way to go for bundle wood. That Axis is a great splitter!
I really wanted to go to the expo really bad too! I almost said the heck with it and left in the middle of the night, true story 🙂👍.
We really wanted to go too John. Stinks to be so busy and miss out on some fun!
Great video.my stump grinding pays for my firewood addiction.225.00 cord here for hardwood.3.00 to 4.00 per inch on stumps.If I'm lucky I sell 40 cord a year..
That's a good business you have going. The stump grinding definitely supplements our income, but it's for a limited time. Sounds like you're doing it right!
What a question. I helped my nephew get into the game three years ago. The bundles are a full time job all by themselves. I convinced him to but up his contact information at each stand and list the different ways to purchase his product. He has now turned the stands over to his son and is only doing bulk. They are going gang busters and can barely keep up. They both make a great argument for each way of selling. My nephew says there is to much time involved in bundles not to mention the theft and stand maintenance. But readily admits bundles built their business. My great nephew who is 17 by the way, says he only requires 2/3 the amount of wood for the same profit. They work together because neither has time to do both. I sold wood in the late 80’s through middle 90’s bundles were not a thing. But I did deliver to camp grounds. I worked it out for a twenty five percent higher price than full cord orders. Plus delivery. I heard you say you were about out of wood. Did you remember to take the stock out of the kiln project? Have a great day.
We actually just ordered signs for each stand that says we deliver 1/4 cord 1/2 cord and full cord with our contact info but I’m not sure I dare put them out lol . We can barely keep up now so they might be for next yr . We are finding that bundles and bulk kinda go hand in hand. They buy a few bundles then decide to just order half a cord so it’s been keeping us more than busy trying to keep up with both .
More money in bundles here, just wish I could just do bundles. Most of my sales are in bulk.👍👍
The bundles sure do produce! We’re trying to keep up with the bulk, but we think we’re losing Jeremiah! It’s never ending
They all say because they have a higher price on their bundles. They always say that if you sell a quarter firewood by button, you make more money, but as you guys say you you do, but it's not as big as different from what you guys get in your area proprising, but I think you're always gonna be into a little bit of boat. Because you're gonna want those people that are at the can't run for a week.Set a time remote that I'm gonna buy the bulk.And then you're gonna have people that just show up for the weekends or they're gonna wait for the weekend and those people are gonna stop and buy the bags
We are finding the bundle sales really promote the bulk sales . They buy a few bundles then just order a half cord so I guess it’s important to do both . I think eventually I’d like to do more of the bundles sales but for now we need to do both .
I just got a roadside stand up and running last Thursday. Just bundles as I'm thinking the folks going to the campgrounds past my location are in loaded down SUV's. At first I thought you meant bulk wood ( like in 20 dollar sections) as many do. The state campgrounds here would probably not let be bring in a load for sale as they sell wood at the park store.
We have had good luck with the stands so I think you will be happy especially if your on a busy rd . A lot of the camp grounds around here are the same way and we try to get them campgrounds as our customer .
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the state campground here uses wood out of the park prepped by the state guys that work for the park.
I dont separate "ugly wood" from "bundle grade", i bag it all together and my customers have nevee complained. As long as it burns, they're happy. The bags really shine as far as display goes, I could have a bunch of uglys in one bag and perfect splits in another bag, but next to each other in the stand they look identical, and burn the same. I think you'll find a lot of time savings not worrying about separating bundle grade from ugly
That would definitely make life easier, but we find it's so much easier to make the bundles with wood that is consistent in size. We're making 100's upon 100's of bundles, so if the wood is twisted and crooked, it just doesn't bag well. We find it works best for us to separate the two so we know what we have for bundles and what we have for bulk deliveries. We have it all on pallets, so we also know by counting the pallets how many cord or how many bundles we have available. It definitely all burns the same though! Everyone has their own system, that's why this is such a great community. We can all share and learn from each other!
@@AllenFamilyFirewood yup I hear ya. I don't sell nearly as many bags as you guys but I still do close to 2000 a summer. The EZ bagger helps a lot, it's similar to the wolf ridge bagger.
Personally that's why I prefer selling racks of firewood @ $20 a rack. Way faster to refill them! I have almost 20 racks ready to go at once at the end of the driveway now!
i think green wood makes the most money for time. splitt right into trailer and deliver no storing and reloading.
That certainly does have its benefits Andrew! Sometimes its nice to just split into the trailer and go deliver it without handling it again
Will the new kindling box be securely mounted to the stand somehow, so it doesn't disappear?
We are going to bolt the kindling boxes to the stands. Hopefully that works!
Congrats on locking down the campground sales.
Thanks! That was a win!
I believe that given the quality of your product, you can focus on bags and use what you consider “uglies” for your bulk deliveries. Do bear in mind that what your term uglies is most wood sellers premium product.
I must be to picky cause everyone else says the same thing that our ugly pile is nice stuff . We generally just deliver the uglys for bulk but now I’m not grading it out it’s all going into the bulk pile because we can’t seem to stay ahead of the orders . Thanks mark
good video and job i would prefer the bulk side lot less work. theres no fire wood market here anymore. welfare has put heat pumps and etc. in all there houses and most others cut there own. the places here that sell bundles they have been there so long all the plastic has rotted off. unless you get some help i don;t think you can keep working this hard. take care, be safe and well.
That stinks the market is gone in your area but your right they give them everything they want . The rest of us still have to keep pushing extra hard to get by in today’s world .
Hello Guys, we use pine in are bagged wood in the summer and hardwood in the winter. Bulk we only sell half cord of hardwood 👍🏼🪵
Good to know guys...all areas are different in what type of wood sells. We've never sold bundles through the winter, but we're looking into a couple stands we could possibly leave out during the winter to sell hardwood. We do sell bulk hardwood in the fall/winter. That's always been a good market in our area.
Where do you get your bundle bags
We get them from Quadel Industries out of Oregon. It’s sold in 2000 ft rolls and we cut them to length
Any high school students around there that need a part-time job. I feel you could use an extra set of hands around there this summer. Stacking and making bundles.
A couple issues with that...we haven't found any kids that want to work and we have limited cash to spend. We could definitely benefit from an extra set of hands but we're doing our best to keep our bases covered!
Bundles are a great way to make some extra money but unreliable because of the fire bans .. my advice to bundles is keep doing it but don't spend the money before you sell any.. I learned this the hard way.. fireban from May to August last year
Boy, that’s rough. Don’t recall any fire bans here. They won’t issue burn permits when it’s really dry but haven’t seen campfire bans. Although I suppose campgrounds can place a ban if they choose to
@@AllenFamilyFirewood different here in Ontario Canada.. the Ministry of Natural Resources can and are hire than the fire chief... lost roughly 30 to 40k in extra sales from May to August. Biggest hit was a campground we supply 3k bundles not delivered to 1 customer..
I think bundles should always be more profitable than bulk. A small price hike (50c - 1$) per bundle would probably make a difference in the profitability given the number of bundles you sell.
we agree with that, the bundles do very well and we've noticed other roadside stands increasing their prices. Thanks!
I think you could work out the better sales yourselves. It will be only cost and time to produce, do not follow what others do but pick out the any good parts that you may see.
That's pretty much what we do John. We keep our eyes on what others are doing, but if something is working for us we aren't going to change it. The old saying goes...if it ain't broke, don't fix it! lol
I only do bundles and boxes of pizza wood.. if we shrink wrap bundles we charge 6 for em if they are bagged i charge 7 bucks for em.. had that price since 2021 .. and i got 14 people making bundles and 5 of us cutting and splitting and filling the kilns .. you could charge more than 5 bucks for bundles i havent seen a gas station under 7 or 8 bucks in years now yall.. but them fish are calling my name again.. lol.
Wow that’s good $ and I’d like to go more towards the bundle side but the bulk orders keep growing as well . Right now it’s just the 2 of us but that’s going to have to change if this keep growing . It’s almost time to go out off shore an get some tuna fishing in around here . It’s not wood but I might just throw a tuna fishing video in the mix just for fun .
@AllenFamilyFirewood do it for sure.. i know im starting a you tube page soon for fishing..
I only sell bulk wood.
Could you not put a bucket on your tractor an load it that way ?
That works good if you have a huge cement area that will fit a 100 or more cord . Trying to scoop it up off the ground will add a lot of dirt to the load and the customer never likes that . We use the pallets because the wood drys better on them and they take up less space than piles .
Don't complain $230 for half a quart of Hardwoods top dollar buddy offered both that way there you're still got the market what you needed to be
It’s definitely top $ around here but people seem to like what we are delivering
You can’t do bundles and not do bulk. Unless of course you want to dispose of all the uglies safely and responsibly here at our place. I have a place for 3 cord for sure.
At the rate we’re going I’m gona need all them pine logs you have did you get that big pile separated out yet
@@AllenFamilyFirewood pine aplenty. And I can get all the fresh stuff you want too
All you can sell is what the customer wants.
Lately that’s the way it’s been we can’t produce enuf
The money that you're costing yourself to build these stands is not worth it deals directly with the campgrounds and have a stand set up over there where you are you will make more money in bulk handle hardwood and Pine in bulk how the hell with the bundles is too many people doing it's not worth the aggravation you could be selling lumber for a lot more money than what you're spending on building stands
Making lumber definitely pays way better than firewood and we do sell some lumber but I enjoy everything about firewood . We tryed hard to get into the campgrounds this yr but didn’t have much luck as there bundle supplier . Next yr I will have hardwood bundles and see were that takes us . Having our stands around the lake has worked so far . Last yr was our first yr and only had out 3 stand and we sold about 4000 bundles . Eventually I’d like to be up around 20,000 bundles
🤘Nice video on comparing the two. I’m going to try bundles this week for the first time. We’ll see how it goes!
It’s great to see you hard work paying off and the business growing.well deserved guys 👍🪵🔥
Thanks Bob! It sure is a lot of work, but seems to be paying off in the end. Right now is the busy season so we're on screech to get it all done!