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Clean Your Nintendo NES Games (or Stop Blowing your Games!) 8-bit #2
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2012
- www.redcatprodu.... Jeremy gives you detailed instructions on how to disassemble your games, clean them and detail them. Check out bit.ly/N8vq0l for access to the theme song!
16:00 Here's a good trick. When you have label remnants on something, no need to break out the harsh chemicals. Just get some packing tape and stick it on and peel it off, the paper will come with. Rinse and repeat until all the label is gone.
I know this is old, but BRASSO. Literally the greatest cleaner for this. It makes the connectors SHINE!
I am glad to hear that this helped you.
that x-box went through every red ring fix i could find. in each case it would work for a few days and then re-redring.
Applied this to my dream game, Mario Kart after waiting 23 years to buy a copy and it now works! Thank you for the video and the advice!
ain't Nothin' like sitting around with a few buddies smoking a few bowls/Spliffs and Playing NES,SNES, and N64 just having a good time
I shot a followup scene which showed that when the label dried off it was no worse for the wear. Unfortunately I couldn't find the shot to put into this video.
I did too... there's a great tutorial on how to do it with household tools somewhere out there. This was more to illustrate the needless complication of the Xbox construction.
I would love to make more! It's all about time. I'll make more some time.
If I would have had a PS3 I would have probably commented on the yanking of third party OS support, but I don't have a PS3. I do however have 3 PS1's!
Awesome! That's why I made the videos. When I got back into Nintendo about 4 years ago I had a super finicky system and a bunch of games that had been sitting in a damp basement. I could barely get any of them to work. Now of course... the only problem I have is finding time to play them.
Cool vid, from a collector's standpoint point of view I'd stay away from the 800 grit sandpaper in most case scenarios unless the contacts have heavy rust on them and all other options like metal polishes and magic erasers are exhausted, I think I've used sandpaper maybe once or twice in 10yrs of collecting. Great showing btw.
You really deserve more views... I fixed all my old systems and games, but i still found you entertaining !
Here's the real advice you should be taking: Go to amazon and buy a bottle of 99.9% anhydrous isopropyl alcohol (it meets US military specifications to clean printed circuit boards), and then use a cotton swab and clean the contacts until the cotton swabs are clear. That's it. No need for abrasives (magic eraser and sandpaper), they wear away the contacts to an unnecessary degree and will destroy your games over time. All you want to do is get rid of the oxide layer on the contacts, and 99.9% isopropyl will do that.
This video makes me cringe so badly. Sandpaper *smdh*
+Peter Battaglia OH GOD, and you can see water damage on the bottom of the Mario 2 label when he takes the isopropyl and paper towel to it. This video should be titled "How to ruin your NES games". You can see the band of water at the bottom of the label in the before and after pictures of Mario 2.
Thank you! Finally someone who gives decent and sound advice!
That's what I was thinking about sand paper.
Isopropyl alcohol does little or nothing to remove oxidation (it is a solvent, which is useful for breaking down oils which bind dirt to a surface; for oxidation you need an acid, not a solvent), and it won't even put a dent in the level of crud as seen in this video, unless you perhaps soak it for days or weeks. Bar Keepers Friend powder mixed with water into a thin watery solution (active ingredient = oxalic acid) is what you need; it cleans to the bare metal ~instantly, and is no more abrasive than e.g., talcum powder.
To everyone in the thread: Really the trick is to only step up the cleaning power if you have to as there are some things that alcohol alone won't cut through. So after starting with just the alcohol (chemical) and it fails, switch to magic eraser or extremely fine sandpaper (mild abrasive), if that fails, go with a pencil eraser (a bit more abrasive), then brasso (even more abrasive plus chemical), etc...
PixelPerspective for instance had a case where there were deeply rusted cart pins that would not allow the game to play, so he had to wear off the rust until it did. An extreme case, but they are out there since the care people take with their carts is quite varied.
I literally JUST got a PS2 so it will be a good three years before I get a PS3.
Goo-Gone or Good Off. You just want some type of solvent. Any hardware store or Wal-Mart/Target for that matter will have it.
Well I'll be watching for them. I just recently retrieved all my old NES stuff from my grandpa's old house and am going to start the process of getting them to actually work. I'm headed out today to get my supplies.
I had a copy of M.U.L.E. that I wish I would have used as my demo. It was covered everywhere with rental stickers. I carefully peeled what I could off and then used alcohol and goo-gone/goof-off for the rest. The actual game label is quite resilient as long as you don't get the goo gone near the edges of the label.
8bitredcat Yes PS3 in this house
The Apple II version of Ghostbusters was so much fun. I played that game for hours as a kid. Same with Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
NOOOOOOOOO DON'T USE SANDPAPER
In the video you just removed the Gold plating in the contacts... It protects the copper from rusting. Don't do that! Just the eraser will do fine!
Also, for the permanent markers: Just spray some deodorant on it. Any brand will do I believe, but you just swipe it once and it disappears right away. It's magical
Game bits, cotton swabs, and Windex. That's all you need. Works like a charm.
Oh, and a dry erase marker to help remove permanent marker.
Use BRASSO, works perfectly
If you bent your pins to make the connection tighter, you may have overtightened. I don't know why but too tight is as bad as too loose. My theory is that if you can make a game work even a few times, there's nothing wrong with the electronics.
That eye test part was hilarious
You can actually clean the contacts really well just using the pink rubber eraser. No need for the alcohol, magic eraser or sandpaper. After you are satisfied with how clean the contacts are you can further clean and protect the game with some WD40 on the contacts. I do this to all my games and they work the first time, every time. Even the games that never worked that ice had since I was a kid now work because I cleaned them with the pink eraser and WD40.
No PS3 in this house. I only just recently picked up a PS2.
Using sandpaper is probably not that recommended.
Guy only “probably”
Thanks. I remember as a kid thinking that there must be some way to play Nintendo games on the Vic-20 as the "game" port was almost the right size. Of course I tried it and of course it didn't work.
I highly suggest using just a higher percent of alcohol or more elbow grease with the eraser step. I DO NOT RECOMMEND using sand paper and "magic eraser" (which is a fine sandpaper in a puffy form) will actually sand down and strip the pins of metal. The harder you scrub either type of sand paper (magic eraser) the more damage you will do. Eventually removing the coating and thus destroying the game. It works great the first couple of times because it removes all the dirt and the first layer of metal. But after a while the game will be damaged. I literally clean 50+ cartridges a day so I've learned from mistakes some things that cause damage over time.
Use a pink pencil eraser to clean NES games, it absorbs all carbon and dirt with ease. Use 90% alcohol as clean smooth wipe, not a scrub. Done deal! Don't use polish or things like brasso, they encourage dirt accumulation and leave residue to prevent connection.
Isn't it amazing how when you now acquire these classic NES games or the console, there always seems to be soda somewhere on them?...lol Goes to show how much soda we drank back in the day with our friends while playing the NES. :)
Ronsonol or Zippo lighter fluid works nice on the plastic too, for marker and sticker goo. It seems to be more gentle on the plastic than goo gone. some clear plastics or acrylics will start to break down and BECOME gooey, then rough looking when dried. The lighter fluid doesn't do that as much.
"So this is the new generation of consoles.. What a bunch of crap" hahahahahaha I laughed right out loud. Excellent video. Thank you for taking to the time to make it.
10:45 Love it that the label on the cartridge says "do no clean with .. alcohol".
Nintendo's cleaning kit includes alcohol mixed with water they said don't use alcohol to get you to pay for the kit
About that "Magic Eraser"... I'm from México, and I don't think they sell that brand here.. how else could I ask for it?
melamine foam
Proud of you for saving this treasure
9:01-9:07 - *Jeremy Gotcher:* Well, there are _some_ games that take advantage of the extra space. _[shows "Super Mario Bros. 3" circuit board]_ But not even _half_ the extra space. - Jeremy, did you see the _Nintendo World Championships_ circuit boards from the gold and grey cartridges? They're huge.
Thanks a ton. I picked up a copy of Super Punch-Out from a thrift store for $3 and the contacts were too corroded to play. My Nintendo security bits arrived this morning and after sanding the contacts I finally got it to work :D
Nice job with the video. I can tell you put a lot of time and production value into them.
Oh and they started with security screws in '88 because people were swapping out the chips and returning them to retailers for refunds. Not that I've ever done anything like that! :P
I spoke to a Kay Bee Toys manager in the late 80's and he told me how he had some kid returning NES carts with Vic-20 chips in them.
Oh course anyone who cared to look could order a security bit from electronics catalogs.
Different strokes man! You can get the handle from any hardware store. It's a standard bit driver.
8bitredcat Yes need
Funny how in the back of the game there is a caution sign " do not use alcohol ,solvent. Thanks for a great video.
I know this takes a while to make these but they're really cool!
Sounds right. I don't know my tools very well, just looking at the chart that came with my bit set. Thanks for the tip, I'll see if I can get that to work.
Yeah, I ended up wrecking those 5 clips above the AV port doing the RROD fix one of the six times i did it. Luckily someone found me a bare 360 at a garage sale for $10 so I stopped wasting my time on the RROD one. Now it's just a prop.
My guess for why old cartridge games had security screws was either to keep especially curious kids from screwing up the PCB or some primitive anti-piracy strategy to keep pirates from dumping the rom chips.
On the microchip for Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt/World Class Track Meet, Nintendo put all three games in one microchip. Still, it's just fine that you thought that. When I was a kid, I thought that when there was a big adventure in a game, the microchip would be very big. I also though small adventures meant a small microchip. I am not trying to offend you. You had a better estimation than I did though. But still, nice guess about the game! Also, on the first approach, you can also use Windex.
You should be able to get that rental sticker off. Just work at it and it will peel and flake away leaving nasty stickum behind. But that's where your goo gone comes into play. Just be careful of the label.
Isoprobal alcohol works great my local retro game store recommends it too. I bought Legend of Zelda and cleaned and now its plays like new. I haven't had to use anything else but isopropal alcohol to clean my nes games and I order nes games online aswell.
When someone writes their name on the game try to use the same type of marker that has the same solvent. Scribble all over the old writing and it will loosen up, now you can go over with alcohol.
Lol I bought one of those Zen Tool sets that has all old and current console tools to get into any console. It even came with that Xbox 360 case opener.
I don't start out using a Magic Eraser on the games. I only go there if the less abrasive methods aren't working. If you scrub hard enough with a Magic Eraser on a game you will essentially polish that area and when the light catches it you can really tell. The ones I use are unscented.
I have temco Superbowl 3 for snes and it has Super Castlevania 4 guts in it. Someone def rented SCV4 and switched the guts back in the day.
Thank you for this video! I remember the alcohol, the blowing, the "put it in, but not all the way" trick (Yes, I'm talking about the games!) but I didn't know about the sand paper. My boyfriend bought me an old Nintendo game system yesterday at a yard sale--so happy! I can't wait to clean up the games I bought and try it out some more! YAY! Thanks again! :)
I haven't played any NES games since I was a kid so when I bought a FC Twin and two games I did not expect to have to do this sort of thing. Oh well I guess these will just have to sit stay put until I can get that screw driver thingy because brushing it with a cutip from the outside didn't work.
Some of the nes games were actaully the japanese famicom games and it was cheaper to Bulid in the convertor so sometimes the games have the convertor and if u use the seconds gen nes U take apart one that has the famicom and use it to play famicom games on ur second gen nes just a lil old school hack trick but that's also why the cartiage is so big it's gotta be big enough to house the famicom and the convertor
thanks man. your video gives me hope that I will never get ripped off on eBay ever again. lol
I would love to see more video like this. Very informative and you're a natural when it comes to entertaining/educational vids.
I'm think sand paper is not a good idea because it roughens up the surface of the contacts, making it less easy to slide in and out of your system, basically roughen up the contacts of your console too and in time it will make the prong damage more. I wouldn't use any grid sand paper on game contacts. Use some damp baking soda and some rubbing instead.
Don't use sandpaper or a screwdriving, it will scratch the plastic of the cartride.
An interresting note about duckhunt is that am amezed how those ducks can even fly behind the tree just to avoid light detection,this is amezing since the nes only has 1 background layer, so nintendo had to find a trick to get this effect, so even in 1984 they were combating limmitations, wow .
johney supergd If u wanna see combatting limitations, you should see some games for the Atari 2600. Especially Ms. Pacman(Not the original Pacman that sucks on this platform)
Be very careful using Goo Gone or any water-based cleaner (even 91% isopropyl alcohol is 9% water) near the labels. Water will soak in at the edges of the label or even through the surface if the plastic coating is scratched or abraded. The water will evaporate, but the paper will be damaged permanently. Goo Gone will soak in and stay there, forever. Un-Do is a better adhesive remover because it will not damage paper, and evaporates completely, leaving no residue.
I think that they were made bigger to fix the 72-62 pin converters for the JP games maybe?
my method is basically just rub with eraser until most is gone, mineral turpentine (or whatever, don't have alcohol), wet toilet paper and dry toilet paper to clean it all off.
my copy of temco baseball rarely worcked and when it did you could barley make anything out but when i cleaned it 1st try popped it in and worked great.Thank you, and your clean your nes video also worked great. :) time to play some MEGA MAN 6
The mother board is small because it was taken directly from the Famicom counter part. And edited, then put in a NES cart
xD you should show us your whole collection so I can officially be jealous of you Dx great video none-the-less.
silver or brass polish is all you need to clean the pins. You are going to sandpaper of the gold on the contact with his method.
Something else that's good at removing permanent marker any kind of liquid foot fungus treatment it melts the marker away in leaves plastic and labels in perfect shape
I have no idea. I don't think so. You could get some, run it on another piece of metal... maybe a penny and see if after it evaporates if there is residue. If not you're probably ok.
My cleaning method tools and method for the contacts is sand paper if it's filth followed by alcohol and a qtip and a eraser if i can't get deep into the contacts for the outside of a nes cart when it comes to pen or eraser a mix of my eraser and alcohol or a wet wipe instead of alcohol and a qtip most of the time it works like a charm the only thing i have come across that i have trouble cleaning is a sega genesis cartridge of rolling thunder 3 and it came complete with manual and case.
Yes, C-64 Ghostbusters is quite awesome :-). Thanks for the video and the tips
The reason why games were so big is because they wanted space for their prototype cartridges.
5 grit sandpaper works good too.
10:45 "CAUTION: Do not clean with.. alcohol and other solvents" lol
great videos man i had to sign in so i could subscribe to your channel, the cleaning of the nes and this one is just what we need to keep gaming:D thanks so so much.
Very cool tutorial. I have 2 games that may need cleaning and yes one even has Keith written on it too. I'm not sure if there's a NES console anywhere though.
It was me. ;-)
Thanks for the video! I hate dirty carts too. The worst are the rental stickers.
you my friend just got your self a subscriber.
this was a very helpful video, props to your editing work, presentation, and humor, superb.
Downside to the old systems on hd TVs is the light guns don't refect off hd TVs lol
AWWW I Loved the wrestlemania! lol
Haha. I took apart ghost n goblins and switched it for Zelda and returned it to blockbuster when I was a kid.
my friends xbox stopped reading discs. we spent at least 4 hours COMPLETELY taking it apart and finally got to the disk compartment. they REALLY don't make it easy to clean the laser
8bitredcat to remove glue residues use wd40 or white mineral oil on a cloth, it just rubs out really fast. it even works when removing labels, just soak the suckers and they come right off. no need to use your nails. and it doesnt look like the game was set on fire afterwards.
Dude, your controller bins are almost identical to mine! Hahaha.
Before security screws we would buy games then swap out the boards and return them and get our money back.
Or rent them... and swap out the boards...
T10 Torx screws? So it's one of the unlicensed carts? If its like the other black tengen carts, you might want to use a razor blade or a thin piece of tin to push the clips out of the way.
I think the size is so that you can insert the cartridge easier.
awesome it helped me clean my ducktales cartridge
I use peanut butter and my tongue to clean contacts. Just like new!!
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You just showed me the Zelda battery for the first time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great instructional, a couple tips I hadn't used. Thank you.
be carful with the sand paper if you rub to much it might destroy the connectors
Id like to note that megadrive games have a liquid laminate rather then plastic. SO if you use iso you must be very gental n carefull or you will remove some of the color . nice vid
Man this is why I want a nes :)
dont have game jackets(dust covers) standard sandwhich bags works good for keeping out dust and hair
Brasso metal polish does wonders!
Sandpaper?? I'm scared to us this on my games, isn't it going to damage the contacts?
the contacts really just need to touch medal to medal
"There has yet to be a game that I couldn't get working with a little cleaning"
This is the truth.
Sand paper ruins your cartridges contacts. Just use the rubber as much as needed to remove the dirt.
I never took apart my games when cleaning them but back in the day I used to use alcohol to clean them like you did and my system was ruined after doing that so much. Plus using sandpaper on that scares me. Have you ever ruined a game by doing this?