Lightweight Intermediate Caliber Cartridge Individual Weapon System (LICC IWS)
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Lightweight Intermediate Caliber Cartridge Individual Weapon System (LICC IWS) Program Manager for FN Peter Kurupas talks with DefenseReview (DR) owner/editor-in-chief David Crane about the developmental weapon system at SHOT Show 2023.
Read more about it at defensereview.com.
So, it looks like they took the original 264 USA cartridge developed by the AMU, shortened it from 48mm to 43mm, and sharpened the shoulder. Doing this probably allowed them to run the same powder with a slightly lighter loading, yet create similar pressure. Quite ingenious.
Also, the mag looks quite similar to the proprietary design used for the LWRC Six8.
It’s actually a shortened .308 case so same base diameter. So the mags are more narrow sr25 mags same thickness and length tho
It's just a Gen 3 Magpul AR mag
I really hope this comes to the Civillian market! I would love to have this cartridge, it looks very versatile! I think for an intermediate platform, this would've been the better choice over the 6.8 x 51mm the Military went with. Not sure if it would be worth replacing 5.56 with, but it still looks like it would be great for hunting!
This in combo with 6.8 x 51mm sounds ideal to me, while also keeping 5.56 and 7.62 Nato in reserve. 6.5 x 43mm for the Assault Rifle, and 6.8 x 51mm for DMR and Machine gun roles.
I can see the 6.8 x 51mm replacing 7.62 Nato for most of, if not all of its roles. But I dont see it filling the role of 5.56. But depending on what kind of ballistics 264 Licc gets, along with how well the gun mitigates the recoil. It might be a good alternative to 5.56!
Based on speculation, claiming it can outperform 6.5 Creedmoor in short and longer barrels, due to it's higher pressures, a 110 grain looks like it could get a Velocity of 3,100 FPS in a 24 inch barrel. But that's just speculation based on what we have, and what it can be compared to (6.5 Grendel, Creedmoor, etc). I'll wait to see if we hear anything more about this cartridges performance, even though it was overshadowed and ultimately chosen over 6.8 x 51mm. I hope it doesn't get tossed to the wind and ends up on Forgotten Weapons in 10 years 😂
The original 6.5x43mm IWK had a slimmer but taller case, but the .264 USA and .264 FN/LICC have fatter cases and the latter is noticeably short. Less capacity for more rounds. The 6.5x43mm IWK would have made a great intermediate round today.
I like it 👌
The cons with the .264 LICC is that it keep using a .473 base diameter. it's bulky and limit the magazine capacity.
they should have magnumized a 6.8 SPC instead (keep the .422 base and extend the OAL to 65mm). The magpul SIX8 magazine could have been modified by extending its OAL accordingly, and allow to maintain a 30 rounds capacity.
Knowing that the normal 6.8 SPC can throw a 85 grains projectile (barnes TSX) at +3000fps out of a 16" barrel,
I guess then a lenghtened 6.8SPC could maintain the same velocity for a +95 grains projectile
this is quite good results to replace the 77 grains 5.56 that only exit at 2650fps out of a 16" barrel.
are there any working prototypes? or is it still in mockup prototype vetsion
They made several different rounds for the caliber for testing. Probably a hundred thousand rounds. Final revision of the rifles. With three different variants of the rifle system. The Armourers Bench on YT does a thorough review with ammunition numbers and types, etc..
This sort of thing in a bullpup configuration with the DT Quadmag would be ideal
Grendel cartridge eh?
Same concept as 6.5 Grendel and 6mm ARC but on steroids. 65G/6A - like 5.56 - have a maximum Cartridge OverAll Length (COAL) of 2.260 and a case head diameter of .441. FN's new .264 LICC has COAL of about 2.50 (7.62 NATO has 2.80) and the same .473 case head diameter as 7.62 NATO.
@@sixfiveoutfitters1201 Interesting.
That charging position sucks.