It would be cool if you could do a live role with three or four players all playing a different strategy to see which one of the strategies work for making money the quickest. My strategy usually is a very short-term strategy I stay in for 2 to 4 shooters it works on a long roll and then I'm out. I do usually wind up doubling my money but that's usually as far as it goes because I don't want to risk any more than that. I'm a little risk gambler
The only risk is a misrepresentation of an effective system. Depending on dice roll either light side or dark side could be a winner. You will hear of hot, cold, and choppy tables. In any instance the strategy that the dice best fits is the winning strategy. I’ve been thinking it would be rather sound to categorize the strategies in those hot, cold, choppy and learn which one for each instance you prefer then access the state of the table and dig in. One key note most systems are designed to have a bankroll for x# of shooters this is a limitation to systems as many rely on equal distribution to balance the rolls.
@@timothymesser2403 I never have a specific number of shooters in mind when I roll I just see how the first shooter put his out and then have a second shooter plays out and if I lose half my bankroll in the first two shooters I'm out.
Hi couple things on this. First this is probably the best strategy I have ever seen but after watching I have adjustments to make it even better. When you win a higher level come or don't come instead of dropping to the previous level for example you win a 75 come out instead of dropping it to the next level 50 you don't bet anything on the come or the don't you just leave your dont pass on hoping for the 7 vs the point. Also another adjustment is when you roll a 4 or a 10 you raise your odds on the dont pass line and bump it up to a higher amount. I think that from your example of play you can adjust the money management after winning the come out points or the dont come wins. Just because you drop to the previous bet size doesn't mean you have to after a win instead use more money management by not giving back almost all of it. So if you win a 50 dollar win on the come out you should only do 5 dollars on the come out on the next bet .
I watch all of your videos to learn a new strategy. No matter what I always find myself returning to the "IRON CROSS". That strategy continues to be one that makes more money. Thank you for teaching that!!
I use a variant of iron cross where instead of only losing on a 7 roll i, instead, only lose on a 5 roll. Odds of rolling a 5 is only 1/9 which beats the 1/6 odds of rolling a 7
@@CreamerOfTheDairySquad I have had some great craps wins by if it's a six or eight I half it so bet on three or four. Then if 2. 3 or , 4 roll; I double the winner and bet on 4, 6 or 8. If I roll 6 I may bet on double six or the any craps as it contains the 6:6.
@@CreamerOfTheDairySquad I had few big wins by placing on 4, 5 , 9, 10 to loose . Thinking about it now betting on the online versionn of craps, the seven to win has some odds and also this means I won't loose my pound or 0.50pence ( like cents) on two excellent popular online casinos " V X X R X X N " OR THE SISTERSITE "J X X X- P X X - J XY . So I will try it out 8 bet on the bottom point line or don't come and also at same time bet on just 4 & 10 , or swap to 5 & 9 or even all 4, 5 6 , 9 and 10..I'm no expert I learnt by playing what I'm happy to lose, then no upset I like demo mode .
@@CreamerOfTheDairySquad Creamer do you have an email to discuss your strategy please? I have some questions and maybe some suggestions too much to text on here. Thanks!
here is what i do count 20-25 times as you play #s on no 12and 2 coming- hitting- then start playing the 12 or 2.i pick one-could play both but ??. and play every roll and eventually shortly(could press as you go if want go for it.) it will hit !!! its amazing it does dealers freak out.... i play with $25 chip and push to $50..stay-- Ive hit back to back so if you hit press it one last time go back counting again.. have bank could just use $10... have a nice day..====. another is set across $ 154 all #s then press 2-3 times all then down on all and put on no #4 or #10 whip the dice 7 out !!! check that one go in making $$ with #s then out of game with a #7..... thankyou... good luck try them !!
The More you lay the "less" your return on investment. After you lose one lay bet now you have to win two lay bets just to break even. You're digging yourself a hole you may not be able to get out of P.S. Playing for a lower house edge (vig) is crap with a capital C!
Thank you for posting Color. The strategy is a great one but good luck finding a casino that will let you play Doey/don't. I would ditch the come bet as it dilutes the don't odds
I tip when I'm winning, I know the dealers can't control the dice, and the dealers appreciate tips whenever, but I do tip when I'm winning that way the dealers kind of cheer you on because they know you're going to tip them if you win
This combination system works long term and is a grind. I do add a two way hardway when I’m in the positive. Also drop singles dealers choice every new shooter. Also tip at end of each session a percentage of a large win.
I noticed that the sequence of numbers for the second part of the strategy almost match up with twice the Fibonacci sequence (the matching numbers in the sequence would be 5,8,13,21,34,55, and 89 -- twice these numbers would be 10, 16, 26, 42, 68, 110, and 178). Only the fifth number doesn't match. Just an observation.
Thanks for the video. Like you i'm a fan of Craps. Every system "works" if you win and every strategy can minimise or hedge your losses. The trick of course is to use the right strategy at the right time...If there was a guaranteed wining system, i'm sure "the House" would modify their games accordingly.
Waaaaay too boring for me. Of course, I am glad you showed it Jeremy. I really think you would have to play 5 days straight(no sleep) on 24 hour tables to make 5k this way. Not enough profit on wins and too many rolls where nothing happens.
A tip for those people who normally never play the dark side. if you are laying odds on your bet, to not confuse the dealers, your odds are placed towards the dealer and heeled away from your flat bet.
@Jeff Carter no, sorry I wasn't completely clear with that... Let me clarify; If you were standing where the stickman was; you have a dealer on your left and right (in his videos CU is the right dealer, you can tell by the prop box or follow the curve of the layout)
@@sarry419 Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. Until now I've always healed my odds to the right of my DP without regard to the dealer position (because I didn't know this tip), though I would bridge if the odds bet would pay the same as the flat bet. Thanks for the tip!
@@ThePepperfly you can exercise this point as well if you put the dealers on the line ( they can also have odds that anyone can contribute towards) and please call it out that it's the dealers. Get better service and have them in favor if you want to be rated or asking for comps...
Anyone wanting a more complete explanation as to how DP odds should be placed and why, it's queued up in the link to this fine Color Up/Casino Quest collaboration vid: ruclips.net/video/O5G5PYnJZ-s/видео.html.
I love the doey-don’t as well. I do it so that I can have flexibility in tacking on odds when I think the 7 is due soon. I don’t bother with the horn high insurance bet because it’s just a minimum pass line bet most of the time…
I just used the Come playing come all the time, not switching using the 7 level betting system. I won $110 fairly quickly on Wizard of Odds Craps Simulation. Then I bet Don't Come all the time, not switching using the 7 levels. Again I won $125 quickly. So it appears that you don't have to switch! John Patrick, rest his soul, hated the Come because you have to get the number twice to win.
I scrolled through the video a couple times and didn't see this, but what would I do in this scenario: bet the pass/don't pass, establish a point, bet the come, travels to a non-point number, then eventually roll the point before rolling the come bet, and it just sits there. Sorry if this is intuitive, I'm relatively new to craps. Thanks!
Also with the free odds on all bets would lower the house edge also and the break is just to give you time to re gourp to cut your loses or decide to go back at it at the table
Hmmm....Let's say the roll lasted roughly 20 minutes. So $110 per 20 minutes translates into $330 an hour, and that times 13 hours is $4290. And ALL this is ASSUMING the dice continue to go the way they went for the given 20-minute roll. A VERY big assumption, to say the least!
I actually play the "Percentage Plus" system sometimes, often times by itself. It is a very boring system and takes a long time to win. I have been successful with it though. Not $5000 a day successful as claimed though. And nothing makes your butt pucker more than being at Level 4 and the point is 6 or 8. Adding the "Strong Betting" portion makes it a little less boring. People look at you like "What are you doing" and like I said, it's pretty boring. I wish you could play the "doey don't" on the individual bubble craps. If you could, I would use this system all day long.
If you actually apply some patience behind the percentage plus system ( I’ve been doing this . It’s just playing the odds) like waiting for a shooter to make 2 points then applying the correct level of odds you actually push your win % / players advantage up tremendously because now the shooter has to make 6 points to beat you instead of just 4. Patience and math will prevail
@@19HunnitBaby very true but most shooters don't make it past the 2nd point, so playing the system from the start is also good math. Don't want to miss out on those to immediately 7 out, especially at a cold table.
@@Charles-cs6ej That's the danger with any negative progression system. If you hit that "max level" you're out a LOT; basically wiping out hours and hours worth of slow wins. The casino knows this, so for every 10 players that uses such a system and comes out ahead by $100, there's one player that lost $2,000 instead with the same system. It gives you a higher chance to come out ahead, but if you come out behind, you come out behind by your entire bankroll. Play the same system for enough time, and it will happen to you; You cannot escape the house edge.
If you want, you can implement a 3rd strategy into this. Several times you rolled two 7s in a row on the come out. Once you see two 7s in a row on come out, immediately jump into a one roll Iron Cross the next roll. Bet $5100 to win $850 on the next roll then pull it down. If 2 or 12 rolls you win $1700. But three 7s in a row is rare and usually doesn’t happen.
Nope, I don’t see too often. Have seen though. It’s a 1 in 216 chance of rolling 3 times in a row, but after it’s rolled twice the next roll is 1 in 6. I’ll gladly give it a try with your money :) but I’m personally just not going to take a $5k risk on 1 in 6 chance
@@ColorUp Every roll is 1/6 chance the 7 rolls. But odds of the 7 rolling 3 times in a come out is so rare I’d take the risk and then pull it down. Especially if you see it roll 3 times in a row, the chances of a 4th 7 is so rare, it’s worth the risk to me. You can even split up the bet to $2500 to win $425 in one roll.
What needs to be worked on is the doey dont part. You won everytime but one. But never increased your bet. Since this system gives true odds your job is to increase bets when you are on a streak until the streak turns against you. You will always have more wins than loses with this system. But that does not mean you make more money because they are not even bets. Any suggests on how to increase or decrease bets?
Yes, that would let you take advantage of a 7out roll but nor a point hit roll. I believe the suggest of ending your session when you win $50 or loose your bank roll of $300. Using that combined with increasing your odds bet might be the best approach. I enjoy your videos very much. Thank you. Dan
I did this but from the light side. I put odds on the pass and I do come bets. This allows multiple come wins per shooter and, while I win fewer pass line bets than DPs, with the progression I can take two or three more losses in a row than if I was on the dark side so I have more chances to recoup my losses. It's a small same size but starting with $500 I've earned an average of $700 in 5 sessions without losing.
Out of all these strategies I still like the 6-8 spread over all these because you go with a predetermined amount of loss you are willing to lose per roller but one strong roll can make you a lot. So in a way I’d rather bet on 40 per roller that 1 in 10 rollers will have a decent roll
Negative progressions are the key to ever winning long term in a casino. Even if you lose one session, that is not a problem. The key is keeping your progression to about 4 times, that way you don't have to use a massive bankroll, and your inevitable loss is simply recouped by a winning session or two. This "system" is a massive grind and certainly does not appear like it would win long term though. There's much more profitable ways to play the game that don't require so much attention to detail for your bet amounts. Plus any system that attempts to hedge a 50/50 bet like the pass line is an immediate red flag.
You can't play a don't pass and a pass on a bubble craps machine. So a modification that I came up with is you lay the point just as if you were laying odds on the don't pass. It's not quite as effective because you have to pay the vig on each win, but this will allow you to grind away at a bubble craps machine if you wish.
Why wait for a point? This strategy is nothing more than a negative progression on the DP/7 appearing. So either protect a DP come out against 7/11 and then lay any odds needed to achieve the win goal ... Or.... just lay against the number of your choice in an amount to reach the win goal. Lol, so simple on BC! GOOD LUCK!
@@ColorUp given our country he can try but I'm sure his statements are way too verbose that no judge in the world would hear the case. Then again, they may make him haul a tablen into the court and put his money where his mouth is. He's the one making guarantees.. lol
Anytime someone tells me they have a foolproof gambling strategy for craps or any other casino game i simply tell them…”If ya got a feeling take it to the ceiling!”
When you won that $25 come bet, could you make another come bet on the next roll? Because you rolled two 8s in a row. Just wondering what the rules of craps would say.
Gary Davidson one thing I hear is popular is doing one COME BET only, then when it's hit and you make money, do another Come bet. Keep doing this until a 7 is rolled. I heard less do 2 come bets at the same time.
I'm not a tech guy, but I would recommend somehow speeding up the video on these type of videos where you are just waiting for the dice to hit one number.
When the shooter rolls the dice off the table, I’ve seen it where he hits a 7 on the next roll after the dice switch. Is it a smart move to then place money on the Come bet? 7 will win, otherwise it goes to whatever number it hits?
The 7 will roll once out of six times after going off table. When we see it happen though it sticks in our minds, and that’s called confirmation bias. That being said, come bet in that situation makes a lot of sense, if you think the 7 will show
OK I have the electronic copy of that book the book takes/lays odds on the come/don't come also other then that the books says 300 but it really is a higher game bank roll and you can play it either way lite or dark side the part I like about the doey/ don't nuteules the 7 and puts "loosing number to the 12 which is rare"
Maybe but I know my knockout craps was for 300.00 but after reading further its a larger game bank roll because your playing two games at once in my book it has two forms of bankroll
I was reading some of your other comments and we must have different copys of the same tiled book i watch and follow most craps channels on youtube but enjoy your the best keep up the great work
I watched your How to Play Craps for Beginners video and I was just unsure about something that was covered in the video slightly. So if a game is in progress with a point established. A new player can come in and get chips and put Place Bets without having to put anything on pass or don't pass line and win if it hits the Place Bets chosen? Or can they put Place Bets but they won't be On until the shooter 7s out? And if a player can make Place Bets and win on them without having to put a pass/don't pass line bet, why is that the case? To my understanding, having to place a begging bet on the pass/don't pass line is pretty much the casino's charge in order for the player to play.
You can make place bets at anytime, if the puck is ON they are “working” if the puck is off, you can override that by asking dealers to have your bets “working” you can play all day and never make a pass/dp bet. That bet is required only if/when you are the shooter of the dice. As far as the fee to play, the casino takes a small fee out of every single bet on the table, by keeping a small percentage anytime you win a bet.
No. Even if you didn’t want the 6/8 worst case just make a same size place bet. Then you either break even or win some with place bet. Never pull down a dont bet
Knockout Craps is part of the Gamblers Bookcase series. The fact is ALL of the systems can win, and ALL of the systems can lose. The key is to find a system that you like to play & hopefully you win more then you lose. But don't ever look at any of these systems as a way to quit your full time job.
The real problem with all betting systems is that the SYSTEMS are usually counting on the gamblers fallacy to work (increasing bets after a loss: I actually do the opposite with great effect).
After watching this full video, I see the HORRIBLE FLAW in this strategy, and I feel I have a solution! I would simply just KEEP on PROGRESSING on BOTH sides of this strategy and when you get a win on whichever one wins, THEN drop down to the minimum for BOTH and keep repeating this and THEN you SHOULD NEVER lose!!!
@T.Irwin you need to think in terms of rolls not time, after all, it's rolls that generate money. That being said, according to CEG casinos try to get 60 rolls per hour so you can use that to calculate an hourly.
Some casinos do not allow. I’m guessing a couple in the East do. Not sure why casinos don’t allow, it doesn’t give the player any advantage, the casino still gets its percentage.
Question: I just your video (I know this is a little late), but my question is why not playing the other numbers as buys, thus seem like a waste to not be making more money should table be hot? This seems like a waste long drawn out process for a little bit of nothing, even though long process to capitalize. I would be drinking just waiting🤣🤣🤣🤣
I figured you will only lose at craps . You invest too much and win in small increments . You have to first recover ur money and the 7 on average will fall before u recover .
System won Jeremy because of 3 reasons: there's both dark side--favored in first 7 rolls, and light side. Third, like every 'energy' in the universe, there's 'waves', and he uses a 'Baccarat system to favor the 'waves'...for DC vs Come, which is what smart Baccarat players do...and those folks understand 'waves' of energy to the game. To check this out further, look at Quantum Physics 'double slit experiment' on RUclips. You can think of each single 'particle' like each roll of the dice...so...is that single dice 'roll' something 'unto itself' or is it 'connected'? The 'double slit' experiment proved that as humans we see each individual particle travel through the 'slit' on one of 2 sides...right or left. We do Not see any connection...on this side of the slits. On the Other side of the 2 slits, the particles assemble into a classical 'wave' pattern of energy. The particles, while they go through 1 at a time...fired from a stabilized laser from the exact same point each time...they assemble on the other side of the slit, not into a single 'same' point, but into a 'wave'...so the 'unconnected' particles ARE connected. So, although energy can and does travel as particles...like a roll of the dice, that roll is connected to every other roll, in a 'wave form'. You have to 'see' in your mind or 'feel' the waves, and you'll know where the game is going. Think this concept doesn't work...tell that to Baccarat players...they'll laugh😂 As humans, with limited observation and evaluation skills, we miss the 'interconnectedness' of Everything. But, at a craps table when it's a warm or hot table...then add a really 'negative' or nervous or agitated or angry person, and the table goes cold. We've all seen and 'figured this out'. So, yeah, this strategy won for 3 good reasons. It's Not a large dollar strategy. Not massively, but in 4 hours, you'd be up over $400...that's a 'good daily paycheck' for many folks!😎
Color Up: "I'm not sure what happened to his 'guarantee' that you will never lose." He just said that to lure people in, just like you do with the titles of your videos. :-}
Not exactly, he lures people in, and then continues to be dishonest. I provide click bait titles but always show the truth. Also my content is free, not scamming people to pay $130 for a strategy that is no better than anything else. You may not agree and think we are both snake oil salesman, thats fine.
@@ColorUp I meant that comment to sound tongue-in-check, I guess I failed. I like your videos very much, and you present the systems in a straight up fashion. Keep up the good work!
@@1stgradevernacular925 Thanks, it is hard to communicate in text form many times, I should have caught on with the smiley face you added to comment. Thanks for watching!
By my calculations if you just won $110 in 20 min of rolling (would be much slower on a live table) you could net $4950 in 15 hours of straight playing if you kept this up. Super boring. I feel like you have better odds throwing $25 chips on the All Tall Small bet and landing that and making $5,250.... idk
Funny thing.. At your 110$ profit in 20 mins of your video it is almost 5k in 13 hours as advertised. Obviously you played much faster then a real game
Oops sorry lol It's a phrase/reference from the video game called Portal. In the game, a cake is promised if the protagonist goes through an elaborate maze/obstacle course. The cake winds up being a lie though, not unlike an elaborate craps system promising untold riches and guaranteed wins if you buy into it.
Way to winning, Know when to LEAVE the table and go get a burger... Set a goal, Make the goal LEAVE even it's in 15 minutes. The longer you stay ,, you LOSE
All tragedies I watched on RUclips are won’t help nothing. If you want to win at craps table with 2 chance: First is LUCK ! Second is practice how to control the diced , less 7 cone out is more wins.
Was finally able to play craps for the 1st time. Used your favorite strategy with a 10 buck table. Didnt go very well. Not blaming you obviously. Just no long rolls or parlayed ass line wins lol
I like the crunchy math part of this strategy. But I probably wouldn't play it. Great video though. I love your strategy videos. I've been your subscriber for over 2 years. Keep up the great work.
It would be cool if you could do a live role with three or four players all playing a different strategy to see which one of the strategies work for making money the quickest. My strategy usually is a very short-term strategy I stay in for 2 to 4 shooters it works on a long roll and then I'm out. I do usually wind up doubling my money but that's usually as far as it goes because I don't want to risk any more than that. I'm a little risk gambler
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The only risk is a misrepresentation of an effective system. Depending on dice roll either light side or dark side could be a winner. You will hear of hot, cold, and choppy tables. In any instance the strategy that the dice best fits is the winning strategy. I’ve been thinking it would be rather sound to categorize the strategies in those hot, cold, choppy and learn which one for each instance you prefer then access the state of the table and dig in. One key note most systems are designed to have a bankroll for x# of shooters this is a limitation to systems as many rely on equal distribution to balance the rolls.
@@timothymesser2403 I never have a specific number of shooters in mind when I roll I just see how the first shooter put his out and then have a second shooter plays out and if I lose half my bankroll in the first two shooters I'm out.
Hi couple things on this. First this is probably the best strategy I have ever seen but after watching I have adjustments to make it even better. When you win a higher level come or don't come instead of dropping to the previous level for example you win a 75 come out instead of dropping it to the next level 50 you don't bet anything on the come or the don't you just leave your dont pass on hoping for the 7 vs the point. Also another adjustment is when you roll a 4 or a 10 you raise your odds on the dont pass line and bump it up to a higher amount. I think that from your example of play you can adjust the money management after winning the come out points or the dont come wins. Just because you drop to the previous bet size doesn't mean you have to after a win instead use more money management by not giving back almost all of it. So if you win a 50 dollar win on the come out you should only do 5 dollars on the come out on the next bet .
I watch all of your videos to learn a new strategy. No matter what I always find myself returning to the "IRON CROSS". That strategy continues to be one that makes more money. Thank you for teaching that!!
Excellent!
I use a variant of iron cross where instead of only losing on a 7 roll i, instead, only lose on a 5 roll. Odds of rolling a 5 is only 1/9 which beats the 1/6 odds of rolling a 7
@@CreamerOfTheDairySquad I have had some great craps wins by if it's a six or eight I half it so bet on three or four.
Then if 2. 3 or , 4 roll; I double the winner and bet on 4, 6 or 8.
If I roll 6 I may bet on double six or the any craps as it contains the 6:6.
@@CreamerOfTheDairySquad I had few big wins by placing on 4, 5 , 9, 10 to loose .
Thinking about it now betting on the online versionn of craps, the seven to win has some odds and also this means I won't loose my pound or 0.50pence ( like cents) on two excellent popular online casinos " V X X R X X N " OR THE SISTERSITE "J X X X- P X X - J XY .
So I will try it out 8 bet on the bottom point line or don't come and also at same time bet on just 4 & 10 , or swap to
5 & 9 or even all 4, 5 6 , 9 and 10..I'm no expert I learnt by playing what I'm happy to lose, then no upset I like demo mode
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@@CreamerOfTheDairySquad Creamer do you have an email to discuss your strategy please? I have some questions and maybe some suggestions too much to text on here. Thanks!
I learn a lot about craps from your videos. most importantly is seeing the reality of gambling and no system is perfect. Keep up the great videos
I just finished something with your same message a minute ago! Thank you for telling the truth and keeping craps fun. Well done sir!
Cool, I’ll have to check your vid out!
here is what i do count 20-25 times as you play #s on no 12and 2 coming- hitting- then start playing the 12 or 2.i pick one-could play both but ??. and play every roll and eventually shortly(could press as you go if want go for it.) it will hit !!! its amazing it does dealers freak out.... i play with $25 chip and push to $50..stay-- Ive hit back to back so if you hit press it one last time go back counting again.. have bank could just use $10... have a nice day..====. another is set across $ 154 all #s then press 2-3 times all then down on all and put on no #4 or #10 whip the dice 7 out !!! check that one go in making $$ with #s then out of game with a #7..... thankyou... good luck try them !!
The More you lay the "less" your return on investment. After you lose one lay bet now you have to win two lay bets just to break even. You're digging yourself a hole you may not be able to get out of P.S. Playing for a lower house edge (vig) is crap with a capital C!
Thank you for posting Color. The strategy is a great one but good luck finding a casino that will let you play Doey/don't. I would ditch the come bet as it dilutes the don't odds
I tip when I'm winning, I know the dealers can't control the dice, and the dealers appreciate tips whenever, but I do tip when I'm winning that way the dealers kind of cheer you on because they know you're going to tip them if you win
well done maestro
the do/dont system works well when you limit yourself to 1 lose per shooter having 5 shooters make there point is rare
I find this strategy not very exciting. But good to see other strategy and how it plays out.
Not very exciting but a very good strategy to indulge in those comp drinks while waiting for your turn to roll.
This combination system works long term and is a grind. I do add a two way hardway when I’m in the positive. Also drop singles dealers choice every new shooter. Also tip at end of each session a percentage of a large win.
I noticed that the sequence of numbers for the second part of the strategy almost match up with twice the Fibonacci sequence (the matching numbers in the sequence would be 5,8,13,21,34,55, and 89 -- twice these numbers would be 10, 16, 26, 42, 68, 110, and 178). Only the fifth number doesn't match. Just an observation.
Thanks for the video. Like you i'm a fan of Craps. Every system "works" if you win and every strategy can minimise or hedge your losses. The trick of course is to use the right strategy at the right time...If there was a guaranteed wining system, i'm sure "the House" would modify their games accordingly.
Exactly
Waaaaay too boring for me. Of course, I am glad you showed it Jeremy. I really think you would have to play 5 days straight(no sleep) on 24 hour tables to make 5k this way. Not enough profit on wins and too many rolls where nothing happens.
A tip for those people who normally never play the dark side. if you are laying odds on your bet, to not confuse the dealers, your odds are placed towards the dealer and heeled away from your flat bet.
So, that means the odds should have been on the left side of the flat bet in this case, based on the table layout view we see here?
@Jeff Carter no, sorry I wasn't completely clear with that... Let me clarify; If you were standing where the stickman was; you have a dealer on your left and right (in his videos CU is the right dealer, you can tell by the prop box or follow the curve of the layout)
@@sarry419 Ah, gotcha. Makes sense. Until now I've always healed my odds to the right of my DP without regard to the dealer position (because I didn't know this tip), though I would bridge if the odds bet would pay the same as the flat bet. Thanks for the tip!
@@ThePepperfly you can exercise this point as well if you put the dealers on the line ( they can also have odds that anyone can contribute towards) and please call it out that it's the dealers. Get better service and have them in favor if you want to be rated or asking for comps...
Anyone wanting a more complete explanation as to how DP odds should be placed and why, it's queued up in the link to this fine Color Up/Casino Quest collaboration vid: ruclips.net/video/O5G5PYnJZ-s/видео.html.
I play the "doey don't" all the time, but I always place $1 on the 12 every come out roll
Doey Don't LMAO..John Patrick is rolling in his grave
I love the doey-don’t as well. I do it so that I can have flexibility in tacking on odds when I think the 7 is due soon. I don’t bother with the horn high insurance bet because it’s just a minimum pass line bet most of the time…
I just used the Come playing come all the time, not switching using the 7 level betting system. I won $110 fairly quickly on Wizard of Odds Craps Simulation. Then I bet Don't Come all the time, not switching using the 7 levels. Again I won $125 quickly. So it appears that you don't have to switch! John Patrick, rest his soul, hated the Come because you have to get the number twice to win.
I think you should triple the net amounts and win 3 times as fast. Implement the Iron Cross into this only after two 7s on the come out.
2:48 those amounts are a Fibonacci sequence, the sum of the previous two equals the next. Level 5 should be $68.
I scrolled through the video a couple times and didn't see this, but what would I do in this scenario: bet the pass/don't pass, establish a point, bet the come, travels to a non-point number, then eventually roll the point before rolling the come bet, and it just sits there. Sorry if this is intuitive, I'm relatively new to craps. Thanks!
The come bet would remain in place until the number it is on rolls or the 7 causes it to lose.
Mastered and 7min, this is a great system color up.
They are all good bets, hard to go wrong with solid bets :)
Also with the free odds on all bets would lower the house edge also and the break is just to give you time to re gourp to cut your loses or decide to go back at it at the table
when you take a break, that to me is a session which means a loss. If its a never ending session, I guess you can't lose because it never ends :)
Hmmm....Let's say the roll lasted roughly 20 minutes. So $110 per 20 minutes translates into $330 an hour, and that times 13 hours is $4290. And ALL this is ASSUMING the dice continue to go the way they went for the given 20-minute roll. A VERY big assumption, to say the least!
I actually play the "Percentage Plus" system sometimes, often times by itself. It is a very boring system and takes a long time to win. I have been successful with it though. Not $5000 a day successful as claimed though. And nothing makes your butt pucker more than being at Level 4 and the point is 6 or 8. Adding the "Strong Betting" portion makes it a little less boring. People look at you like "What are you doing" and like I said, it's pretty boring. I wish you could play the "doey don't" on the individual bubble craps. If you could, I would use this system all day long.
If you actually apply some patience behind the percentage plus system ( I’ve been doing this . It’s just playing the odds) like waiting for a shooter to make 2 points then applying the correct level of odds you actually push your win % / players advantage up tremendously because now the shooter has to make 6 points to beat you instead of just 4. Patience and math will prevail
@@19HunnitBaby very true but most shooters don't make it past the 2nd point, so playing the system from the start is also good math. Don't want to miss out on those to immediately 7 out, especially at a cold table.
Great video I've been watching your Channel 4 years great Channel love you thanks for the info
Appreciate that, thanks for watching
Looks like a good strategy! You never came close to the 7 th level but I'm sure with a lot of bad luck you could lol! Thanks for the video! Always
They are are good low house edge bets.
I hit 7th level twice within 45 mins.... luckily won both times.
@@Charles-cs6ej That's the danger with any negative progression system. If you hit that "max level" you're out a LOT; basically wiping out hours and hours worth of slow wins. The casino knows this, so for every 10 players that uses such a system and comes out ahead by $100, there's one player that lost $2,000 instead with the same system.
It gives you a higher chance to come out ahead, but if you come out behind, you come out behind by your entire bankroll. Play the same system for enough time, and it will happen to you; You cannot escape the house edge.
If you want, you can implement a 3rd strategy into this. Several times you rolled two 7s in a row on the come out. Once you see two 7s in a row on come out, immediately jump into a one roll Iron Cross the next roll. Bet $5100 to win $850 on the next roll then pull it down. If 2 or 12 rolls you win $1700. But three 7s in a row is rare and usually doesn’t happen.
1 in 6 chance it rolls again, I couldn’t risk $5100 with those odds.
@@ColorUp So you see three 7s on come out roll often? How about four 7s in a row on the come out?
Nope, I don’t see too often. Have seen though. It’s a 1 in 216 chance of rolling 3 times in a row, but after it’s rolled twice the next roll is 1 in 6. I’ll gladly give it a try with your money :) but I’m personally just not going to take a $5k risk on 1 in 6 chance
@@ColorUp Every roll is 1/6 chance the 7 rolls. But odds of the 7 rolling 3 times in a come out is so rare I’d take the risk and then pull it down. Especially if you see it roll 3 times in a row, the chances of a 4th 7 is so rare, it’s worth the risk to me. You can even split up the bet to $2500 to win $425 in one roll.
B W yeah, I get it. Just not for me.
What needs to be worked on is the doey dont part. You won everytime but one. But never increased your bet. Since this system gives true odds your job is to increase bets when you are on a streak until the streak turns against you. You will always have more wins than loses with this system. But that does not mean you make more money because they are not even bets. Any suggests on how to increase or decrease bets?
you can increase bet by betting more on the line bet which in turn allows more in odds to be added
Yes, that would let you take advantage of a 7out roll but nor a point hit roll. I believe the suggest of ending your session when you win $50 or loose your bank roll of $300. Using that combined with increasing your odds bet might be the best approach. I enjoy your videos very much. Thank you. Dan
I did this but from the light side. I put odds on the pass and I do come bets. This allows multiple come wins per shooter and, while I win fewer pass line bets than DPs, with the progression I can take two or three more losses in a row than if I was on the dark side so I have more chances to recoup my losses. It's a small same size but starting with $500 I've earned an average of $700 in 5 sessions without losing.
@Qui-John Gin - Do you have an email to discuss your strategy and maybe some suggestions?
Out of all these strategies I still like the 6-8 spread over all these because you go with a predetermined amount of loss you are willing to lose per roller but one strong roll can make you a lot. So in a way I’d rather bet on 40 per roller that 1 in 10 rollers will have a decent roll
Pretty much knowing your cost per roller and then having pure upside is a pretty fun way to play
agreed
He made his point at 5 prior to the 7 on the 2nd shooter.
Negative progressions are the key to ever winning long term in a casino. Even if you lose one session, that is not a problem. The key is keeping your progression to about 4 times, that way you don't have to use a massive bankroll, and your inevitable loss is simply recouped by a winning session or two.
This "system" is a massive grind and certainly does not appear like it would win long term though. There's much more profitable ways to play the game that don't require so much attention to detail for your bet amounts. Plus any system that attempts to hedge a 50/50 bet like the pass line is an immediate red flag.
Have you considered hitting two strategies against each other? I would be interested to see how this plays against the iron cross at any given roll
Maybe have another dealer side-by-side and check the opposite strategy
I’ve done multiple videos comparing side by side
You can't play a don't pass and a pass on a bubble craps machine. So a modification that I came up with is you lay the point just as if you were laying odds on the don't pass. It's not quite as effective because you have to pay the vig on each win, but this will allow you to grind away at a bubble craps machine if you wish.
Why wait for a point? This strategy is nothing more than a negative progression on the DP/7 appearing. So either protect a DP come out against 7/11 and then lay any odds needed to achieve the win goal ... Or.... just lay against the number of your choice in an amount to reach the win goal.
Lol, so simple on BC! GOOD LUCK!
What happenes when you place the come bet and the next roll is a 2/3/12 ? You lose it but do you then immediately bet again, higher, on don't come?
Correct
Hey Jeremy love it buddy. A hate snake oil sales tactics and just blatant false claims made to peddle a product. Glad to see you do this one.
Trying to do part. I don’t think he can sue me?
@@ColorUp given our country he can try but I'm sure his statements are way too verbose that no judge in the world would hear the case. Then again, they may make him haul a tablen into the court and put his money where his mouth is. He's the one making guarantees.. lol
It would be more about showing his “copyrighted” written content. But strategies are hundreds of years old, not like you can patent them.
@@ColorUp agreed. He didn't come up with it.
Was the guy someone who calls himself the professor? That looks like some mob guy.
Anytime someone tells me they have a foolproof gambling strategy for craps or any other casino game i simply tell them…”If ya got a feeling take it to the ceiling!”
This is why I watch your videos over other 'experts'.
appreciate you watching
I never spent a whole day at a craps table but I would be concerned about how to handle losing streaks having spent so much time at the table.
Take a break, go get lunch
When you won that $25 come bet, could you make another come bet on the next roll? Because you rolled two 8s in a row. Just wondering what the rules of craps would say.
Yes, you can make continuous come bets if you like. Waiting was just his strategy rules, not rules of craps.
Gary Davidson one thing I hear is popular is doing one COME BET only, then when it's hit and you make money, do another Come bet. Keep doing this until a 7 is rolled. I heard less do 2 come bets at the same time.
I'm not a tech guy, but I would recommend somehow speeding up the video on these type of videos where you are just waiting for the dice to hit one number.
Thanks
What would the bets be for a minimum $25 table?
About the 5000 in 13 hours.
You played somthing round 20 min, made 110, is 330 per hour, times 13 is more than 4000 in 13 hours
Wouldnt triple odds for a $10 bet at level 3 5/9 be $54 not $45 or did I math that wrong?
When the shooter rolls the dice off the table, I’ve seen it where he hits a 7 on the next roll after the dice switch. Is it a smart move to then place money on the Come bet? 7 will win, otherwise it goes to whatever number it hits?
The 7 will roll once out of six times after going off table. When we see it happen though it sticks in our minds, and that’s called confirmation bias. That being said, come bet in that situation makes a lot of sense, if you think the 7 will show
OK I have the electronic copy of that book the book takes/lays odds on the come/don't come also other then that the books says 300 but it really is a higher game bank roll and you can play it either way lite or dark side the part I like about the doey/ don't nuteules the 7 and puts "loosing number to the 12 which is rare"
Hmm, I read a couple times, does not mention odds on the come/dc bets? maybe a similar strategy he has?
Maybe but I know my knockout craps was for 300.00 but after reading further its a larger game bank roll because your playing two games at once in my book it has two forms of bankroll
R Godfrey yeah, I didn’t discuss his suggested bankroll, but pretty sure at some point in book it says $12k 😮
I was reading some of your other comments and we must have different copys of the same tiled book i watch and follow most craps channels on youtube but enjoy your the best keep up the great work
Appreciate you watching!
I watched your How to Play Craps for Beginners video and I was just unsure about something that was covered in the video slightly.
So if a game is in progress with a point established. A new player can come in and get chips and put Place Bets without having to put anything on pass or don't pass line and win if it hits the Place Bets chosen? Or can they put Place Bets but they won't be On until the shooter 7s out?
And if a player can make Place Bets and win on them without having to put a pass/don't pass line bet, why is that the case? To my understanding, having to place a begging bet on the pass/don't pass line is pretty much the casino's charge in order for the player to play.
You can make place bets at anytime, if the puck is ON they are “working” if the puck is off, you can override that by asking dealers to have your bets “working” you can play all day and never make a pass/dp bet. That bet is required only if/when you are the shooter of the dice. As far as the fee to play, the casino takes a small fee out of every single bet on the table, by keeping a small percentage anytime you win a bet.
The payout on a place bet is less than an odds bet behind the pass line. That's why you can bet it without a pass line bet.
Is there ever a situation where you would want to call no action for the 6 and 8 DC rolls? Maybe if you were regretting the size of your bet?
No. Even if you didn’t want the 6/8 worst case just make a same size place bet. Then you either break even or win some with place bet. Never pull down a dont bet
Great video.
What if you just play odds instead on dont pass line odd?
I have a question that’s bugging me. Why do they use 5 dice 🎲 instead of 6
Some places actually do let you choose from 6 dice. But they come from manufacturing in sleeves of 5
Thanks for the quick response
Do you boys ever analyze the other players gambling techniques and either play with them or play against them?
He dose do a lot with other channels and also dose the challenge where he has a other players against him
Is the switching on a loss good or not?
you couldn't use this strategy in most casinos, because they only allow max odds bets of 3x/4x/5x on pass/don't pass
I’m not sure most, but many only allow 345x odds
I played place bets 6 and 8. Martingale strategy and made money.
Everything’s works sometimes, nothing works all the time
@@ColorUp FACTS
@@ColorUp I set a profit target, hit the target then walk away.
Would the casino allows betting pass and don’t?
Most do, it’s called “doey dont” I have done videos on it
@@ColorUp by the way I missed you by 4 days when you shot the video at the GSR. I wished I was there. Thanks
I was there filming again today. It’s becoming a regular thing.
@@ColorUp are you going back any time soon? I would like to come up and meet you!
Thanks for showing this interesting comparison!
What program do you use to put the numbers rolled on the screen?
Some youtubers have it set up to automatically add numbers.., I’m not that smart :) I add numbers later in my video editing program, Final Cut Pro.
I don't care what guarantees this system gives. I'd rather lose money betting a more exciting strategy.
ha, many players would agree with you
Hedge Hog method nets 4 figures on your rolls
So you're in Colorado?
I have been to many casinos and played craps and have never seen a table less than $10 a play.
Thats a shame, $5 tables are awesome.
Knockout Craps is part of the Gamblers Bookcase series. The fact is ALL of the systems can win, and ALL of the systems can lose. The key is to find a system that you like to play & hopefully you win more then you lose. But don't ever look at any of these systems as a way to quit your full time job.
Correct, and that’s why no strategy is worth paying for.
The real problem with all betting systems is that the SYSTEMS are usually counting on the gamblers fallacy to work (increasing bets after a loss: I actually do the opposite with great effect).
that was hilarious, "why am I gonna show you this for free? because strategies are not worth anything..."
LMAO to the intro Jeremy!!!
Where can I submit my strategy?
My dice advice form on website colorup.club
Old quack off his rocker.. knew who you were talking about as soon as you said knockout
After watching this full video, I see the HORRIBLE FLAW in this strategy, and I feel I have a solution!
I would simply just KEEP on PROGRESSING on BOTH sides of this strategy and when you get a win on whichever one wins, THEN drop down to the minimum for BOTH and keep repeating this and THEN you SHOULD NEVER lose!!!
So $1500 in 13 hours is about $115/hr or, for a table looking to get in 1 roll a minute, just under 2 bucks a roll.
Hmm, thanks for breaking that down.
@T.Irwin you need to think in terms of rolls not time, after all, it's rolls that generate money. That being said, according to CEG casinos try to get 60 rolls per hour so you can use that to calculate an hourly.
@T.Irwin He was rolling very fast. In the casino, 60-90 rolls per hour depending how busy the table is.
If this system never fails, just bring a bigger bankroll and triple the bets.
Sorry you can't do the doey don't here on the east coast.
Some casinos do not allow. I’m guessing a couple in the East do. Not sure why casinos don’t allow, it doesn’t give the player any advantage, the casino still gets its percentage.
Question: I just your video (I know this is a little late), but my question is why not playing the other numbers as buys, thus seem like a waste to not be making more money should table be hot? This seems like a waste long drawn out process for a little bit of nothing, even though long process to capitalize. I would be drinking just waiting🤣🤣🤣🤣
All strategies have different goals. Aggressive, time at table, low risk etc.
@@ColorUp Yeah, understand, thanks for the reply and content, has been instructive/educational, thus enjoyed.
i just clawed my eyes out
Sounds painful
It made money I didn’t think it would
Everything wins sometimes, nothing wins all the time
I figured you will only lose at craps . You invest too much and win in small increments . You have to first recover ur money and the 7 on average will fall before u recover .
Love it… not $129, not $99, not even $29. But wait, THERES MORE!! 😆
System won Jeremy because of 3 reasons: there's both dark side--favored in first 7 rolls, and light side. Third, like every 'energy' in the universe, there's 'waves', and he uses a 'Baccarat system to favor the 'waves'...for DC vs Come, which is what smart Baccarat players do...and those folks understand 'waves' of energy to the game.
To check this out further, look at Quantum Physics 'double slit experiment' on RUclips. You can think of each single 'particle' like each roll of the dice...so...is that single dice 'roll' something 'unto itself' or is it 'connected'?
The 'double slit' experiment proved that as humans we see each individual particle travel through the 'slit' on one of 2 sides...right or left. We do Not see any connection...on this side of the slits.
On the Other side of the 2 slits, the particles assemble into a classical 'wave' pattern of energy. The particles, while they go through 1 at a time...fired from a stabilized laser from the exact same point each time...they assemble on the other side of the slit, not into a single 'same' point, but into a 'wave'...so the 'unconnected' particles ARE connected.
So, although energy can and does travel as particles...like a roll of the dice, that roll is connected to every other roll, in a 'wave form'. You have to 'see' in your mind or 'feel' the waves, and you'll know where the game is going. Think this concept doesn't work...tell that to Baccarat players...they'll laugh😂
As humans, with limited observation and evaluation skills, we miss the 'interconnectedness' of Everything. But, at a craps table when it's a warm or hot table...then add a really 'negative' or nervous or agitated or angry person, and the table goes cold. We've all seen and 'figured this out'.
So, yeah, this strategy won for 3 good reasons.
It's Not a large dollar strategy. Not massively, but in 4 hours, you'd be up over $400...that's a 'good daily paycheck' for many folks!😎
"win craps easy every time, just don't roll a 7 if you don't wanna."
-Barak Obama
Color Up: "I'm not sure what happened to his 'guarantee' that you will never lose." He just said that to lure people in, just like you do with the titles of your videos. :-}
Not exactly, he lures people in, and then continues to be dishonest. I provide click bait titles but always show the truth. Also my content is free, not scamming people to pay $130 for a strategy that is no better than anything else. You may not agree and think we are both snake oil salesman, thats fine.
@@ColorUp I meant that comment to sound tongue-in-check, I guess I failed. I like your videos very much, and you present the systems in a straight up fashion. Keep up the good work!
@@1stgradevernacular925 Thanks, it is hard to communicate in text form many times, I should have caught on with the smiley face you added to comment. Thanks for watching!
only true way to win consistently in craps is to learn how to throw dice.
I agree, just haven't seen any craps players that can throw consistently to provide a living (pro)
Probably you're a rich person today sir did you play it
Why even play the pass line… might as well just put that bet into the field on the come out roll
By my calculations if you just won $110 in 20 min of rolling (would be much slower on a live table) you could net $4950 in 15 hours of straight playing if you kept this up. Super boring. I feel like you have better odds throwing $25 chips on the All Tall Small bet and landing that and making $5,250.... idk
people would look at me like im fucking stupid if i bet pass and don't lol
Funny thing.. At your 110$ profit in 20 mins of your video it is almost 5k in 13 hours as advertised. Obviously you played much faster then a real game
HILARIOUS about this person's OUTLANDISH claims!!!!!
That's too much to remember for not much action.
Grind strategy that you need charts for ha :)
@@ColorUp I don't want to be that guy at the table...
The cake was a lie 😆🃏
Never heard that term before
Oops sorry lol
It's a phrase/reference from the video game called Portal. In the game, a cake is promised if the protagonist goes through an elaborate maze/obstacle course. The cake winds up being a lie though, not unlike an elaborate craps system promising untold riches and guaranteed wins if you buy into it.
I remember playing portal, but don’t remember the specifics or story, just warping around they walls ha
You hit the point then hit a 7 right with a false pay
Right, thats why there are big notes that pop up on the screen
Way to winning, Know when to LEAVE the table and go get a burger... Set a goal, Make the goal LEAVE even it's in 15 minutes. The longer you stay ,, you LOSE
good video
$110 profit minus the point 5 hit mistake. Either way, so boring. Not my cup of tea for a strategy
It is not the strategy for action junkies for sure. pretty slow
All tragedies I watched on RUclips are won’t help nothing. If you want to win at craps table with 2 chance: First is LUCK ! Second is practice how to control the diced , less 7 cone out is more wins.
If dice control was possible, many players would win and casinos would stop the game. Luck is the key, strategies are for money management.
If there's a World Record for the most boring strategy of craps. This is IT!!!
It might be top 10 :)
Was finally able to play craps for the 1st time. Used your favorite strategy with a 10 buck table. Didnt go very well. Not blaming you obviously. Just no long rolls or parlayed ass line wins lol
Bummer, you didn’t get the first time player luck 🍀
@@ColorUp It's cause he wasn't a female virgin player. :D
Wow. Horn, six, horn, six, horn, six, horn, six, horn, six. LOL
I like the crunchy math part of this strategy. But I probably wouldn't play it.
Great video though.
I love your strategy videos.
I've been your subscriber for over 2 years.
Keep up the great work.
Thank you for continuing to support by watching!! I have fun filming these
What a crazy weekend this last weekend in Vegas was!
Bonethrower??
No. I don’t believe he try’s to sell any strategy.
This system did not work for me. Ended up losing $700. My mf chest hurts