Just got back from a 7 day cruise on RC Symphony… started out day one with a $500 buy in… was able to use this same strategy all week and turn a 3k profit… played enough to comp a free cruise. Much thanks!!! Look forward to future videos
I just got back from RC Anthem of the Seas and wish I'd known these strats and tips before playing 🤣 I love watching and playing this game. 1 guy won all the money he'd spent on the cruise back in full, got a profit and earned enough for a comp cruise
Did you manage to accumulate a free cruise with your playing time ? Never been on a cruise but close to retirement and considering cruising love craps, thanks
@@MrJenten10 actually on our last cruise of the year (our 4th since this post). Have gotten to “prime” again for the following year on RC and continue to get comp offers monthly… this strat works hands down… I do not do the nightengale variation, and start with $500. I continue to press out the 6 & 8 and collect all 4/5/9/10 hits once out to the wings. Beat of luck!
Just did this on a play table and did the exact same thing and started with 500, got to the third tear right away and then started winning like crazy got all the way up to 3000 before i hit a 7 again
Another great day at Venetian. 300 buy in cased out at 1235. There was one amazing shooter who made the difference. When his turn was over I was out. Again thanks for your videos. 👍🏻
One thing about this strategy which I like is that you can start as low as the $18 level! Pays 21 and place the other two numbers for 10 each. It’s a tower strategy where you are using the six and 8 to tower me the 4/5, 9/10 coupled with regressing and a progressive (martingale) on the 6/8. Very cool! You would need $1,008 to go 7 levels with this strategy at the $18 on each of the 6/8
Just returned from Shreveport and used a low-roller version (3 levels - 18 - 30 - 42) of the system. Bought in for $200 on a $10 table. Three sessions and came out a winner on all. Drove away with a $657 profit. This is now my "Go To" craps system -- UNTIL you show me a better one. (Ha!) During the week, Bally's opens the table games at 10 a.m. with only the Crapless table. The standard table opened at 8 p.m. Btw - I had some really long rolls with a new dice set and an unorthodox grip. On my last session, the stick man chuckled and looked to the boxman when he saw my first roll. I then proceeded to roll the "ALL." When I hit the last number, the boxman laughed and shook his head. Unfortunately, I don't bet the "ALL" bonus bets. Thanks again.
Alright so I tried this strategy with 300 bucks and literally 7ed out twice on the first go around so I had to martingale it and pull another 300. Managed to climb out of it to 1400 down to 600 then back up to about 1200. I had live bets on a 25 roll streak before shooter hit 7 and I came out with a 470 dollar profit. It was a thrilling night with its ups and downs. The hardest part about this strategy is watching other people hit pass line odds bets or horn bets while you’re waiting for your numbers. Or worse you keep hitting 8 or 6 and now you have 100 dollar buy bets that might 7 out on you.
I absolutely love this strategy. I first saw it last week on Vince's channel. I tend to have long rolls, so I thought this was a perfect strategy. Been playing this strategy for the last week. Seems like the Dice have brains because I suddenly can't roll a 6 or 8 to save my life! 😅😅
Sammy 3! Stay flexible. When you can't seem to roll 6 and 8, that means 10 ways of 36 are out to lunch. Other numbers have to be hitting much more often to compensate.
@@ColorUp True. I've already made a couple "adjustments" to it, but it's an awesome strategy as it is. I just made it a bit more comfortable for the "low level investor" 😎
This is a lot of fun and teaches chip placement well in play. I like this one thanks for sharing. It gets to be a nailbiter as the theory rolls along, but I like how you reset back down once you peeled out some winnings. You highlight the pros of the strat well.
I love your channel. Great interviews with a very experienced dealer as well as not giving hyerbolic incorrect information (done by a lot of the other craps channels).
Shout out to my man Color up and Vince.. turned 150 into 750 with this strategy on the $15 table using $24 6&8 and giving dealer $2 to make 4,5,9,10 bets 15 each.. made my weekend highly recommend
Thank you for sharing this video. If I’m down I’m going to collect on 3rd 6,8 instead of add to the outside numbers. And I also try to make a 7 on come out thus I will keep my numbers off until a point is established.
I was recently in Vegas playing at the encore and noticed a hubbub around the craps table. Jumped in the game and witnessed what is likely to be the most amazing dice roll I’ve ever seen. A guy shot for an hour and forty five minutes! He started with $2000 and walked from the table with $200K. Madness. I played conservatively and made $1700 off him
Keep playing. You will find quick sevens and lose big time. I’ve tried it out over 10 games. Down big time. If you win once go home and count your blessings.
@@dr.macgmail2287 right the math scares me. its not a Martingale system because after 3 tiers he does not double and from what i see there is way more at risk then is what was talked about. On the second tier you have over 500. at risk.
Overall even though the don't has the slight edge the pass ability to collect, push, etc is really fun. I like don't pass but really tempted on to go light side
I played your video today before I went to the table at a casino in mass today. I had a few of your strategies in mind. I failed at the don’t pass. But won using the pass line. I wanted to be different from everyone else at the table so bad using the don’t pass. Failed miserably. Started with $260 buy in. Lost $160 in ten minutes using the don’t pass. Gained back my loss n more using the pass line and pressed the 6 n 8 with odds on the point. Left with 999 in less than two hours. I’m happy with my results being a beginner. Thanks for all your videos of knowledge. Btw. I did well using the dice rolling management. I hit the point four times with having to roll for fifteen minutes.
Can you remake this strategy I love this one 😂😂.. fresh rolls would be amazing to watch. Thank you brotha! You took the fear or confusion I had with this game 😅 now I enjoy more than just roulette 😂😂. Love this channel 🤘🤘🤘
I’ve watched all his videos and this is one of the best strategies I’ve seen because of the low risk high reward. I know it can lose just like everything else but I haven’t seen it lose very often.
@@rockycoates7198 you have to consider both the frequency of wins/losses and the size. If all you have is 3 levels you’re going to go bust A LOT. Even if you add 3-4 more levels you’re going to take some huge losses more often than you think. Of course it can work but this is a pretty risky strategy
@@MyopiaMovie well maybe your right, like I said everything can lose and I’ve seen this one lose but overall think it’s a strategy that wins a lot! I’ve only rolled it out once myself and I did it randomly because I think that’s the only way to test a strategy and did very well.
I think a great variation would be once you're in profit and a 6/8 hits, take the money and go 96 across and then press and collect from there until a 7, then start over
@kylebrink7523 @colorup That is how I am going to play it out too. I have been a part of a few 30 something rolls before and even a 46 roll where I was the shooter (roll-2-win, that’s how I know the roll count lol 😊) and constantly taking down a 4,5, 9 and 10 each time after it hits would never let those numbers hit those monster sizes they can reach from a partial collect and press each time. During those rolls I mentioned, by the time of the 7 out I had 210 six and eights working for me, $125 5 & 9’s etc. Although you would still do fine on a monster roll playing this system just as shown in the video, the end result would be substantially less winnings. Like you said in your comment, after recouping the initial investment and being in profit, partial press and collects from there on out. To the moon as Brian from HCS likes to say!
Trying this a few nights at the local casino. With someone 6/8 sometime it doesn’t hit once before 7 comes. A cold streak is really painful, or seeing 8-12 rolls and not hit 6 or 8 once.
remember there are 6 ways to roll a 7 and 5 ways to roll a 6 or 8, it sounds like the shooter has 10 ways to win but that is not true the odds are still the same. 6 ways to loose and only 5 ways to win. Its great if the shooter makes his point but all lightside strategy work if the shooter is hitting the points. be careful of this one you could loose a lot. JMO
Played craps for the first time tonight, won $475. $10 table. My strategy was $32/34 inside, let it roll 3 times, collect my ROI, then full press to $24 on the 6&8. 2 for $30. Collect twice, press. Once i reached my certain amount, I’d drop down to 2 units, then start over.
@@ColorUp but also believe as a Dice Dealer, I have a legs up knowing what are good and bad ways to play, the prob seems good and sometimes it can be, but it’s a money pit.
Vince took some of your advice and did a couple more videos of this strategy with regressions. Seems to be even better. I’ve rolled it out manually and electronically a few times and have had good success. I’m making slight variations like crossing from upside to downside to plug holes before increasing multiple units on another. Really like this strategy.
Just played this in Tahoe (made it out yesterday before the storm hit) on the roll to win. I didn’t do the martingale but I bought in for $100 and left with $527! I rolled two separate 20+ rolls but definitely my favorite strategy!
Hi Jeremy. Loved the video. I followed your link to Vince's channel, but could not find a video that represents what you've shown today, so I'm going to review yours a few more times and roll this out at home. Do the "feel" test and see how it handles.
I my opinion, no matter the strategy employed it all comes down to money management based on your backroll. Have you covered money management in any of your videos? Yes, money management is boring, but it is very important if you do not want to leave the casino with severe depression LOL.
New to craps. If you have your bets working on the come out, do you not lose them on a 2,3 or 12? In the video you hit a craps 2 on the come out and it didn’t affect your bets so I was just curious.
I enjoy your presentations!! This was a good one. Of course you know as well as anyone that none of these 'systems' work over time. The only sane bet to make at the craps table is min line and max free odds.
Correct, no play works over time, and because of that I wouldn’t agree that line & max odds is the only sane bet, as it also is a losing endeavor. Play the way you like and bets you want, you have to get lucky and beat the odds to win.
No truer words were said. Even with DC at maximum odds , you still need to strategize in not over investing winnings or your losses will be great until you hit that super role if that ever happens before your deep in the hole
I saw you did buy bet on 4 and 10. Correct me of I am wrong. It worths also doing so for 5 and 9 is the bet is above or equal to $30. For example $50 bet, place bet has return of $70 while buy bet has $73
Depends. It is a better payoff at some dollar amounts, but the house edge is much higher if you have to bet $52 to win $75. However, anytime the vig is only collected I’d bet wins, and not collected up front, a buy bet is better than a place bet. Most casinos sadly don’t offer this though. Take advantage of those that do.
I said the very same thing. It’s all about probability versus payoff. If it were about payoff everybody would be playing the prop bets but it’s not. It’s about probability in taking math away from the casino as much as possible.
Guys this strategy is not for the feint of heart but I will say, I put in 600 came out a little over 2200 so like 1600+ on profits, I was down at first doing this strategy but once you get a good roll going you’re good!
Hi color up, When it hits say 6, instead of buy/place the 4/5, would it be doable for 5/9 instead? My logic on that is the 5/9 has better odds. But wasn’t sure if this would effect the strategy much.
that’s fine, you would have 8 dice combos with the 5/9 vs 7 dice combos with the 4/5 or 9/10. Shouldn’t change strat much, but you do get paid more on those 4/10 hits. I guess if 6/8 rolled again you would then add 4/10. Try it out
Been trying this strategy on an app not for real money, Tier 1&2 playing until rack was at even(ish) or better from bankroll starting going into tier 1, tier 3+ until bankroll was was even(ish) or better, then reset to tier 1. Done over 1000 rolls, been down to tier 13, no limits on spreading out to 4,5,9, &10. Up around $6900!
played it on wizard of odds. went all the way to the $336 x2 level before getting enough for a bit over $200 profit before pulling bets back down to $42 x2. takes $3024 to run the system all the way to the end without any wins before the last 2 bets of $336 each.
If you are in a deficit and you are only going up three tiers, do you stay at the third tier if you continue to roll 7's or go back to the first tier? Obviously if you run out of bankroll you would be done or reup on the bankroll.
I’m a fan of this style!! I understand the reason we buy instead of place the 4 and 10, which is why we place 42 on the 6 and 8, but I prefer a different betting sequence: 30 on the 6 and 8, with 30 spreading out 4 and 5 or 9 and 10, pocket the 5. This way, one martingale allows me to drop back down immediately after a hit and still spread with small risk. Plus, I eliminate the need for 1 dollar units and can still play with a 500 bankroll. What do you think?
While I was watching this video, I was thinking about starting with $30 on the 6/8, as you mentioned. I am still new to craps and trying a few different strategies.
I like this but would make some changes: First, I would NOT use Martingale because it's just TOO RISKY! I would just stick constantly with the $42 EACH on 6 and 8, BUT I would COLLECT FIRST and THEN I would spread to the other numbers but would start FIRST with the 5 and 9, and then the 4 and 10, and collect ALL when each of those numbers hits, but would STILL COLLECT FIRST THEN spread out as I just mentioned for those other numbers, and keep on doing that with the collect first then spread out for when the 6 and 8 keep hitting!
There seems to be a "fatal flaw" in this strategy. When you hit, you press the numbers other than 6 and 8 (those conceivably are the ones that hit the most other than the 7). If you get on a heater, how do you press the 6 and 8? It seems the only way you press those two numbers is when you're losing.
Maybe I misunderstood the explanation, but around 8:00 you've increased to the second tier and hit your 8, don't you go back down to the lower level at that point?
Im not sure the case at 8min, but at 4:55 I explain when to drop bets. Basically you only lower bets down, when you are in profit. So maybe I wasn't in profit at that point?
But for the bypassed Comeout and unnecessary Martingale this looks like The Dice Doctor’s S-T-R-E-T-CH Play, circa 1981. What’s missing are Grafstein’s superb Stop Loss moves: the points Six or Eight Comeout roll ( that triggers an “all down” of current mid-pressed, across the board place & buy bets ) or the crap roll Comeout ( that does the same, while requiring the Pass Line flat be lowered to its base value ).
Just tried this system at the house and turned $500 into $3086 in roughly 1.5 hours. I’m headed to the casino in a couple of weeks and excited to give it a try.
Quick question, when you have the bet always on, can you lose that money when you're rolling for the point? I saw him roll a 2 during the point roll and he didn't lose any money. Is it only when a 12 is rolled? Or a 7?
Also, I viewed this again and noticed that you said " five o' ten " instead of " five, ten " as in 510, and that reminds me of my time in Public School in 1st grade and the teacher asked one of the students to find out the time for her by going out in the hallway to check the clock because there was NO clock in our classroom, and when the student came back he said it was " eleven o' ten " so then the teacher corrected him and also said it for ALL the rest of us that it's properly said as " eleven, ten " and then gave us a lesson on how to properly tell time! So, when I heard you say that, it made me laugh because of that time that I had amazingly remembered in 1st grade!
Boom. Watched this yesterday went to the casino on a whim and turned $500 into $3k and had the time of my life. Hadn’t played since my 20s and I used to just splash chips That dudes channel is creepy and but strategy is genius ❤
Its to signify it is a buy bet instead of a place bet. They are essentially the same bet, but pay different. Here is a video about it ruclips.net/video/qRsaYIj-cgc/видео.html
Can you explain the reason you buy the 10? You put a little buy chip on top of the 10 after you hit the 8. Also, what is the little white ON chips purpose? Ty
"On" marker is for when you ask the dealer to overide the main "off" puck and you want your bets working. The buy bet is essentially the same as a place bet, but in the case of 4 or 10, it pays better.
You can start with any multiple of $6 on 6/8 and multiples of $5 on 4/5/9/10. I start at $24 each on 6/8. $18 works but $12 doesn’t pay enough to cover 4/5/9/10.
Exactly. All those little wins that you stockpile will disappear if you play a Martingale strategy long enough, when you eventually lose on some gigantic bet that you kept doubling up using Martingale. Oh, and if you happen to win one of those giant doubled, tripled, quadrupled, up Martingale bets, sweating it out, hoping and praying--- the big win brings your bank roll back to.... wait for it.....EVEN!
@@ericmadeoftin8206 tried the Marty on roulette. Would wait for eight hi/lo odd/even red/black in a row then start the martingale. Worked great til it didn’t.lol. No Marty for me after that night!
What is Vince's Channel? The link in the description gives me a Video Unavailable message. From other comments below sounds like he's made changes to the strategy and maybe that's why he pulled it down. Would like to check out his vids and see how he's modified the strategy. Thanks
I really like this strategy. Was trying to find it on the other channel you mentioned but I'm not sure which one it was. Can you link to the video or let me know the title of Vincent's video? Thank you so much for your great content!!!
This is an interesting one but man, could me scary. I watched a Casino Quest video showing their Panda Degen strategy. Lots of money yet lots of hedging. Have you seen that one and thought about trying it out? I just feel you explain stuff in a way that I get easier and I understand especially any unknown nuances.
I'm definitely still a newbie for sure. I think hedge betting though can do well if the dice are hitting. The moment you start point-7 out at the start of rolls is when you get an issue. At that point small wins are not going to overcome those hedge betting losses. At the end of the day, the house always has an edge. Hedge betting can work, aggressive betting can work. Just what kind of gambler are you and how are the dice working that day. It's all preference. Plus different strategies can work with others. A low bankroll can use hedging, work their way to, let's say double tap and so on. At the end of the day, just have fun with what you can afford.
The same odds exist in card craps. They just use playing cards to determine which of the the 36 combinations is the “dice roll” so sure, anything I’d play on regular table I’d play with card craps
It definitely doesn't work on bubble dice. Tried it twice and got hammered. Seems like all the outside numbers roll more. Thinking of trying to place the 5/9 from the getgo.
Solid strategy. I almost think just keeping 6 and 8 at the first level and no progressing would work too. Prevents a bad marty run. Just still have the big bankroll to weather a rough run, but you are lasting longer in a worse case scenario. Thiughts?
bigger bankrolls puts more money at risk, sounds like a scam to me. I have heard this before, if I only had more money I could have stayed longer but that never ends well. JMO
@@Mc.flyyy11 oh ya I have paid the price a few times. Now I play for entertainment risk the minimum. But i never get hurt too bad. This one can hurt you, be careful. There is a lot of excitement about this and I dont want to see people get hurt. You know its so much more difficult to teach someone not to risk large amounts. People are funny.
Nice strategy. Love your videos and explanations. Has anyone seen crap tables go back to $5? Since the pandemic has slowed down and times are still hard for the working man?
They tend to roll once in every 6 rolls according to probability and they don’t know if puck is on or off, but you never know. Every monster long roll includes 7s, and those will be on come out roll so…
The problem I see is you are starting out shooting for 2 particular numbers (6 and 8). You can get a hot roller, who is hitting everything but, and you are gaining nothing and just waiting for the inevitable 7. You not only need to avoid the 7s but also hit the 6s and 8s early. Very volatile.
I see no reason to double the 6 and 8 if a seven rolls. This system is looking for numbers anyway. No need to chase them by doubling up. Also, I would be off on the come out. Other than that I like it.
I might have missed something - but what is the reason (when) that you get the dealer to pull your place bets down (off the table into your pocket) leaving that number clear. Is it a certain threshold of pushing the bet?
Cool strategy. Was wondering if modifying it a bit to put winnings on 5&9 after first hit rather than "up town or down town"? Also, what about working into the strategy w two units on 6&8 on a five dollar table?
In this video is this assuming it’s a $25 table? Would playing $30 on 6/8 work the same? In Vegas on the strip the cheapest I can find is $15, so what would the bet be?
yes you can adapt. so you want to bet enough on 6/8 that with a win, you can bet two more numbers. so on $15 table you need to win $30. A bet of $30 on 6/8 would win you $35, so that would do the trick. could also bet $24 to win $28, and then just toss $2 to dealer to have enough to cover two more numbers.
@@ColorUp I did this last night at Mirage at a 25. Streaky table. Didn’t do so hot, but this morning at Luxor was a 10 dollar and played a modified-ish iron cross with a mix of some of your strategies and doubled my 300 buy in! But as you say, that’s how the dice roll. Back in my room watching more of your vids while I take a breather and see if I can get any more ideas. Thanks man!
Why not just bet 4,5,6,8,9,10 like $25 each, 150 total? The way I see it is, 3 - 6 hits of any of those numbers and you are free rolling the rest of the roll. If you roll a 7 right out, you just place the same amount, and 3-6 hits gets back losses, then just continue on the roll, and juice up bets once you are free rolling again. Missing safe dice roll numbers just feels silly when you will bet it anyway.
Most casinos the vig for $50 bet will just be $2 either if paid up front or only collected on win. I guess they could round up the $2.50 to $3. But I don’t think standard.
Is there a reason you chose that design in table where it’s more expert level knowing where to place your bets vs the beginner friendly version showing odds and delineated betting zones?
Just got back from a 7 day cruise on RC Symphony… started out day one with a $500 buy in… was able to use this same strategy all week and turn a 3k profit… played enough to comp a free cruise. Much thanks!!! Look forward to future videos
Comp
Cruise nice!!
I just got back from RC Anthem of the Seas and wish I'd known these strats and tips before playing 🤣 I love watching and playing this game. 1 guy won all the money he'd spent on the cruise back in full, got a profit and earned enough for a comp cruise
Did you manage to accumulate a free cruise with your playing time ? Never been on a cruise but close to retirement and considering cruising love craps, thanks
@@MrJenten10 actually on our last cruise of the year (our 4th since this post). Have gotten to “prime” again for the following year on RC and continue to get comp offers monthly… this strat works hands down… I do not do the nightengale variation, and start with $500. I continue to press out the 6 & 8 and collect all 4/5/9/10 hits once out to the wings. Beat of luck!
I’m 18 and love getting to play on RC. I only play with around $100 I make from the summer before but it’s fun.
You could start at 18 instead 42. For any of you low rollers our there. Then spread the 21 to the numbers with the $1 for the dealers or a hardway
If you bet $10 on the 4 and 10, what's the Vig at most tables? $1?
@@matchoow AC won't buy until $20
Just did this on a play table and did the exact same thing and started with 500, got to the third tear right away and then started winning like crazy got all the way up to 3000 before i hit a 7 again
Another great day at Venetian. 300 buy in cased out at 1235. There was one amazing shooter who made the difference. When his turn was over I was out. Again thanks for your videos. 👍🏻
Love it!
You gotta know when to walk away. Good job!
One thing about this strategy which I like is that you can start as low as the $18 level! Pays 21 and place the other two numbers for 10 each. It’s a tower strategy where you are using the six and 8 to tower me the 4/5, 9/10 coupled with regressing and a progressive (martingale) on the 6/8. Very cool!
You would need $1,008 to go 7 levels with this strategy at the $18 on each of the 6/8
I'm going to try this "$18 variation" at Hard Rock Casino in Sacramento this afternoon. $500 bank roll. Let's see how we do...
@@mikepinkerton5496 keep us posted on how it works out.
@@mikepinkerton5496 any luck? Cool strategy regardless
@@LaphroaigFan He made millions and is now living in Thailand. We'll never hear from him again
@@paulconrad6220 dammit I knew it
Just returned from Shreveport and used a low-roller version (3 levels - 18 - 30 - 42) of the system. Bought in for $200 on a $10 table. Three sessions and came out a winner on all. Drove away with a $657 profit. This is now my "Go To" craps system -- UNTIL you show me a better one. (Ha!) During the week, Bally's opens the table games at 10 a.m. with only the Crapless table. The standard table opened at 8 p.m. Btw - I had some really long rolls with a new dice set and an unorthodox grip. On my last session, the stick man chuckled and looked to the boxman when he saw my first roll. I then proceeded to roll the "ALL." When I hit the last number, the boxman laughed and shook his head. Unfortunately, I don't bet the "ALL" bonus bets. Thanks again.
Did you find a better bet?
Alright so I tried this strategy with 300 bucks and literally 7ed out twice on the first go around so I had to martingale it and pull another 300.
Managed to climb out of it to 1400 down to 600 then back up to about 1200. I had live bets on a 25 roll streak before shooter hit 7 and I came out with a 470 dollar profit.
It was a thrilling night with its ups and downs. The hardest part about this strategy is watching other people hit pass line odds bets or horn bets while you’re waiting for your numbers.
Or worse you keep hitting 8 or 6 and now you have 100 dollar buy bets that might 7 out on you.
I absolutely love this strategy. I first saw it last week on Vince's channel.
I tend to have long rolls, so I thought this was a perfect strategy.
Been playing this strategy for the last week. Seems like the Dice have brains because I suddenly can't roll a 6 or 8 to save my life! 😅😅
Ha figures, the dice gods say no 6/8 for you.
Sammy 3! Stay flexible. When you can't seem to roll 6 and 8, that means 10 ways of 36 are out to lunch. Other numbers have to be hitting much more often to compensate.
Would love to see a revisit to this strategy or with any updated way of playing it.
So THIS is what Vince has been spending so much time working on! I........I LOVE IT!! It's pure GENIUS!! 👍🏾👍🏾✊🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
started rough, but ended well and fast
@@ColorUp True. I've already made a couple "adjustments" to it, but it's an awesome strategy as it is. I just made it a bit more comfortable for the "low level investor" 😎
@@ColorUp Great video! Your explanation of strategies is PERFECT! 👍🏾👍🏾
Just ran this with a 1500 bank roll cashed out 2345 after about 40 min of play. Solid system. Set a realistic walk value!!!
This is a lot of fun and teaches chip placement well in play. I like this one thanks for sharing. It gets to be a nailbiter as the theory rolls along, but I like how you reset back down once you peeled out some winnings. You highlight the pros of the strat well.
I love your channel. Great interviews with a very experienced dealer as well as not giving hyerbolic incorrect information (done by a lot of the other craps channels).
Used this strategy on the electronic Roll to Win table and colored up $2,000. Thank you so much for these strategies.
I rolled this out without using a martingale. On my channel. Didn’t work as good. I quess the risk is worth it. Great video!!!
Not sure it is or not, but certainly makes up for the loses when you increase. Either way, gotta roll that 6/8 and then an outside number.
Very nice demonstration. Always entertaining, informative, well done. Keep up the good work, my friend.
Thanks
Shout out to my man Color up and Vince.. turned 150 into 750 with this strategy on the $15 table using $24 6&8 and giving dealer $2 to make 4,5,9,10 bets 15 each.. made my weekend highly recommend
Thank you for sharing this video. If I’m down I’m going to collect on 3rd 6,8 instead of add to the outside numbers. And I also try to make a 7 on come out thus I will keep my numbers off until a point is established.
I was recently in Vegas playing at the encore and noticed a hubbub around the craps table. Jumped in the game and witnessed what is likely to be the most amazing dice roll I’ve ever seen. A guy shot for an hour and forty five minutes! He started with $2000 and walked from the table with $200K.
Madness. I played conservatively and made $1700 off him
Those are fun tables
Legend! Shows you what can sometimes happen to the poor casinos.
Betting conservatively, you should have made $30K.
Did he throw it randomly or preset the dice when he played the table.
Played this on my table at home as a random roller. Only MG'd to the 2nd level and walked at 1750.00 with 500 buy in.
Nice
@@ColorUp love your vids brother, great for the regular Joe's like me
Keep playing. You will find quick sevens and lose big time. I’ve tried it out over 10 games. Down big time. If you win once go home and count your blessings.
@@dr.macgmail2287 right the math scares me. its not a Martingale system because after 3 tiers he does not double and from what i see there is way more at risk then is what was talked about. On the second tier you have over 500. at risk.
Overall even though the don't has the slight edge the pass ability to collect, push, etc is really fun. I like don't pass but really tempted on to go light side
I played your video today before I went to the table at a casino in mass today. I had a few of your strategies in mind. I failed at the don’t pass. But won using the pass line. I wanted to be different from everyone else at the table so bad using the don’t pass. Failed miserably. Started with $260 buy in. Lost $160 in ten minutes using the don’t pass. Gained back my loss n more using the pass line and pressed the 6 n 8 with odds on the point. Left with 999 in less than two hours. I’m happy with my results being a beginner. Thanks for all your videos of knowledge. Btw. I did well using the dice rolling management. I hit the point four times with having to roll for fifteen minutes.
Glad the dice went on your favor in the end.
Can you remake this strategy I love this one 😂😂.. fresh rolls would be amazing to watch. Thank you brotha! You took the fear or confusion I had with this game 😅 now I enjoy more than just roulette 😂😂. Love this channel 🤘🤘🤘
Craps rules!!!!
I’ve watched all his videos and this is one of the best strategies I’ve seen because of the low risk high reward. I know it can lose just like everything else but I haven’t seen it lose very often.
not so sure about the low risk part
@@ColorUp well that all depends on your bank roll but with a 1500 dollar bank roll I can see this winning more times than not with a few tweaks!
@@rockycoates7198 you have to consider both the frequency of wins/losses and the size. If all you have is 3 levels you’re going to go bust A LOT. Even if you add 3-4 more levels you’re going to take some huge losses more often than you think.
Of course it can work but this is a pretty risky strategy
It isn't low risk with the martingaling.
@@MyopiaMovie well maybe your right, like I said everything can lose and I’ve seen this one lose but overall think it’s a strategy that wins a lot! I’ve only rolled it out once myself and I did it randomly because I think that’s the only way to test a strategy and did very well.
This is an awesome strategy too if the dice are cooperating. I’m definitely give this a try also my next visit to the craps tables.
I think a great variation would be once you're in profit and a 6/8 hits, take the money and go 96 across and then press and collect from there until a 7, then start over
@kylebrink7523 @colorup That is how I am going to play it out too. I have been a part of a few 30 something rolls before and even a 46 roll where I was the shooter (roll-2-win, that’s how I know the roll count lol 😊) and constantly taking down a 4,5, 9 and 10 each time after it hits would never let those numbers hit those monster sizes they can reach from a partial collect and press each time. During those rolls I mentioned, by the time of the 7 out I had 210 six and eights working for me, $125 5 & 9’s etc. Although you would still do fine on a monster roll playing this system just as shown in the video, the end result would be substantially less winnings. Like you said in your comment, after recouping the initial investment and being in profit, partial press and collects from there on out. To the moon as Brian from HCS likes to say!
Trying this a few nights at the local casino. With someone 6/8 sometime it doesn’t hit once before 7 comes. A cold streak is really painful, or seeing 8-12 rolls and not hit 6 or 8 once.
It happens, gotta look out for that
remember there are 6 ways to roll a 7 and 5 ways to roll a 6 or 8, it sounds like the shooter has 10 ways to win but that is not true the odds are still the same. 6 ways to loose and only 5 ways to win. Its great if the shooter makes his point but all lightside strategy work if the shooter is hitting the points. be careful of this one you could loose a lot. JMO
Played craps for the first time tonight, won $475. $10 table.
My strategy was $32/34 inside, let it roll 3 times, collect my ROI, then full press to $24 on the 6&8. 2 for $30. Collect twice, press. Once i reached my certain amount, I’d drop down to 2 units, then start over.
Nice play. Sounds like a great first experience!
@@ColorUp but also believe as a Dice Dealer, I have a legs up knowing what are good and bad ways to play, the prob seems good and sometimes it can be, but it’s a money pit.
Only has a $200 bank roll. Took me roughly 2 - 3 hours to build it.
@@ColorUp if I wasn’t such a pussy I’d press more more 😂
Vince took some of your advice and did a couple more videos of this strategy with regressions. Seems to be even better. I’ve rolled it out manually and electronically a few times and have had good success. I’m making slight variations like crossing from upside to downside to plug holes before increasing multiple units on another. Really like this strategy.
What’s Vince’s channel on RUclips
The channel referenced in the description has no content besides one community post with the chart and two video links; both videos "unavailable".
@ObsessedWithPool 🤷♂️ must have deleted everything
Just played this in Tahoe (made it out yesterday before the storm hit) on the roll to win. I didn’t do the martingale but I bought in for $100 and left with $527! I rolled two separate 20+ rolls but definitely my favorite strategy!
$10 min table!
Hi Jeremy. Loved the video. I followed your link to Vince's channel, but could not find a video that represents what you've shown today, so I'm going to review yours a few more times and roll this out at home. Do the "feel" test and see how it handles.
His video he just goes up to higher levels.
John you are crazy. Vince has been working this strategy hard. It looks good.
Trying to find Vince's version of this on his channel. Not finding it. Did he delete the video you are referencing?
I my opinion, no matter the strategy employed it all comes down to money management based on your backroll. Have you covered money management in any of your videos? Yes, money management is boring, but it is very important if you do not want to leave the casino with severe depression LOL.
New to craps. If you have your bets working on the come out, do you not lose them on a 2,3 or 12? In the video you hit a craps 2 on the come out and it didn’t affect your bets so I was just curious.
Place bets only lose to the 7. craps numbers do not effect place bets. So when working on come out roll, only 7 will cause loss
I enjoy your presentations!! This was a good one. Of course you know as well as anyone that none of these 'systems' work over time. The only sane bet to make at the craps table is min line and max free odds.
Correct, no play works over time, and because of that I wouldn’t agree that line & max odds is the only sane bet, as it also is a losing endeavor. Play the way you like and bets you want, you have to get lucky and beat the odds to win.
you are correct sir!
No truer words were said. Even with DC at maximum odds , you still need to strategize in not over investing winnings or your losses will be great until you hit that super role if that ever happens before your deep in the hole
I saw you did buy bet on 4 and 10. Correct me of I am wrong. It worths also doing so for 5 and 9 is the bet is above or equal to $30. For example $50 bet, place bet has return of $70 while buy bet has $73
Depends. It is a better payoff at some dollar amounts, but the house edge is much higher if you have to bet $52 to win $75. However, anytime the vig is only collected I’d bet wins, and not collected up front, a buy bet is better than a place bet. Most casinos sadly don’t offer this though. Take advantage of those that do.
When you hit a 6 or 8, instead of going up town or down town, would it be better odds wise to place the 5 and 9 then work out to the 4 and 10 next?
maybe, just depends what numbers roll next 😄 the difference is one extra dice combination you would have working for ya with 5/9
I said the very same thing. It’s all about probability versus payoff. If it were about payoff everybody would be playing the prop bets but it’s not. It’s about probability in taking math away from the casino as much as possible.
If it was about math, the 5/9 would be last as it’s the highest house edge bet at 4%
Not so. The house age only 5/9 is 4.76% the house edge on the 4/10 is 6.67% only if you buy the 4 and 10 is the house the same as the 5/9 at 4.76%.
5/9 place bet is 4%. 4/10 buy bet with vig on win is 1.67% which is most common now and you wouldn’t make a place bet on 4/10 which would be over 6%
Guys this strategy is not for the feint of heart but I will say, I put in 600 came out a little over 2200 so like 1600+ on profits, I was down at first doing this strategy but once you get a good roll going you’re good!
I went to Canadian mad professors you tube channel I couldn’t find where he talked about this strat
Hi color up,
When it hits say 6, instead of buy/place the 4/5, would it be doable for 5/9 instead? My logic on that is the 5/9 has better odds. But wasn’t sure if this would effect the strategy much.
that’s fine, you would have 8 dice combos with the 5/9 vs 7 dice combos with the 4/5 or 9/10. Shouldn’t change strat much, but you do get paid more on those 4/10 hits. I guess if 6/8 rolled again you would then add 4/10. Try it out
Been trying this strategy on an app not for real money, Tier 1&2 playing until rack was at even(ish) or better from bankroll starting going into tier 1, tier 3+ until bankroll was was even(ish) or better, then reset to tier 1. Done over 1000 rolls, been down to tier 13, no limits on spreading out to 4,5,9, &10. Up around $6900!
What app do you use? I can't seem to find one that I like
It will work, until it doesn't and it loses big. The risk of playing martingale type strategies.
played it on wizard of odds. went all the way to the $336 x2 level before getting enough for a bit over $200 profit before pulling bets back down to $42 x2.
takes $3024 to run the system all the way to the end without any wins before the last 2 bets of $336 each.
Ouch, I’m not playing it to $3k,
@@ColorUp no doubt! playing it to $500 would be a stretch for me. lol
If you are in a deficit and you are only going up three tiers, do you stay at the third tier if you continue to roll 7's or go back to the first tier? Obviously if you run out of bankroll you would be done or reup on the bankroll.
I’m a fan of this style!! I understand the reason we buy instead of place the 4 and 10, which is why we place 42 on the 6 and 8, but I prefer a different betting sequence: 30 on the 6 and 8, with 30 spreading out 4 and 5 or 9 and 10, pocket the 5. This way, one martingale allows me to drop back down immediately after a hit and still spread with small risk. Plus, I eliminate the need for 1 dollar units and can still play with a 500 bankroll. What do you think?
There are some casinos that allow or even auto buy 4/10 anything above $10, so that would work.
While I was watching this video, I was thinking about starting with $30 on the 6/8, as you mentioned. I am still new to craps and trying a few different strategies.
High risk, high reward. Very dangerous strategy that will boom or bust quickly. Intriguing, but not sure if I can stomach those bets.
I hear ya
I like this but would make some changes:
First, I would NOT use Martingale because it's just TOO RISKY!
I would just stick constantly with the $42 EACH on 6 and 8, BUT I would COLLECT FIRST and THEN I would spread to the other numbers but would start FIRST with the 5 and 9, and then the 4 and 10, and collect ALL when each of those numbers hits, but would STILL COLLECT FIRST THEN spread out as I just mentioned for those other numbers, and keep on doing that with the collect first then spread out for when the 6 and 8 keep hitting!
There seems to be a "fatal flaw" in this strategy. When you hit, you press the numbers other than 6 and 8 (those conceivably are the ones that hit the most other than the 7). If you get on a heater, how do you press the 6 and 8? It seems the only way you press those two numbers is when you're losing.
You don't press. The bet stays the same due to the tier that you are on. So the pressing of the 6 and 8 happens when you change tiers.
Maybe I misunderstood the explanation, but around 8:00 you've increased to the second tier and hit your 8, don't you go back down to the lower level at that point?
Im not sure the case at 8min, but at 4:55 I explain when to drop bets. Basically you only lower bets down, when you are in profit. So maybe I wasn't in profit at that point?
But for the bypassed Comeout and unnecessary Martingale this looks like The Dice Doctor’s S-T-R-E-T-CH Play, circa 1981. What’s missing are Grafstein’s superb Stop Loss moves: the points Six or Eight Comeout roll ( that triggers an “all down” of current mid-pressed, across the board place & buy bets ) or the crap roll Comeout ( that does the same, while requiring the Pass Line flat be lowered to its base value ).
Just tried this system at the house and turned $500 into $3086 in roughly 1.5 hours. I’m headed to the casino in a couple of weeks and excited to give it a try.
Should note that I was playing at a much faster pace than at an actual casino. 4-5 times faster if I had to estimate
Update 20 minutes later. Restarted with $1k buy in, lost $852 in 20 minutes.
Quick question, when you have the bet always on, can you lose that money when you're rolling for the point? I saw him roll a 2 during the point roll and he didn't lose any money. Is it only when a 12 is rolled? Or a 7?
Place bets only lose when a 7 is rolled.
why did you pay on the come out roll on 8 when the Puck was off ? 9:24
Because the bets are always working irrespective of comeout roll or otherwise
Also, I viewed this again and noticed that you said " five o' ten " instead of " five, ten " as in 510, and that reminds me of my time in Public School in 1st grade and the teacher asked one of the students to find out the time for her by going out in the hallway to check the clock because there was NO clock in our classroom, and when the student came back he said it was " eleven o' ten " so then the teacher corrected him and also said it for ALL the rest of us that it's properly said as " eleven, ten " and then gave us a lesson on how to properly tell time! So, when I heard you say that, it made me laugh because of that time that I had amazingly remembered in 1st grade!
I love it will definitely try this out soon
Have fun!
Boom. Watched this yesterday went to the casino on a whim and turned $500 into $3k and had the time of my life.
Hadn’t played since my 20s and I used to just splash chips
That dudes channel is creepy and but strategy is genius ❤
Ha, sorry about being creepy, but glad to hear it went well at the casino for you!
@@ColorUp lol your channel is amazing. The link to Vince’s channel…creepy
Love your channel. Starting a family craps table build on Sunday.
Love this strategy.
Low risk, high reward, fun,
And you’d never miss any hot shooter
Wow Color Up showing some rail management. Nice to see
Ha
Question- why do you put the buy button on top of the number? Sorry for the stupid question just trying to learn this game.
Its to signify it is a buy bet instead of a place bet. They are essentially the same bet, but pay different. Here is a video about it ruclips.net/video/qRsaYIj-cgc/видео.html
Can you explain the reason you buy the 10? You put a little buy chip on top of the 10 after you hit the 8. Also, what is the little white ON chips purpose?
Ty
"On" marker is for when you ask the dealer to overide the main "off" puck and you want your bets working. The buy bet is essentially the same as a place bet, but in the case of 4 or 10, it pays better.
Are the tiers still the same even at a smaller buy in?
This table was a $25 buy in - so what would the tiers be for a $10? $15? buy in?
You can start with any multiple of $6 on 6/8 and multiples of $5 on 4/5/9/10. I start at $24 each on 6/8. $18 works but $12 doesn’t pay enough to cover 4/5/9/10.
The martingale works until it doesnt. All those small gains go away when it does.
Yep, that’s the trouble with martingales
It's not a true marty, it's more of a level up ($42 each level up) kinda like Waylon
Exactly. All those little wins that you stockpile will disappear if you play a Martingale strategy long enough, when you eventually lose on some gigantic bet that you kept doubling up using Martingale. Oh, and if you happen to win one of those giant doubled, tripled, quadrupled, up Martingale bets, sweating it out, hoping and praying--- the big win brings your bank roll back to.... wait for it.....EVEN!
@@ericmadeoftin8206 tried the Marty on roulette. Would wait for eight hi/lo odd/even red/black in a row then start the martingale. Worked great til it didn’t.lol. No Marty for me after that night!
What is Vince's Channel? The link in the description gives me a Video Unavailable message. From other comments below sounds like he's made changes to the strategy and maybe that's why he pulled it down. Would like to check out his vids and see how he's modified the strategy. Thanks
ruclips.net/user/VinceArmenti
I really like this strategy. Was trying to find it on the other channel you mentioned but I'm not sure which one it was. Can you link to the video or let me know the title of Vincent's video? Thank you so much for your great content!!!
He deletes so many of his so 🤷♂️ and he also makes tons of slight variations.
This is an interesting one but man, could me scary. I watched a Casino Quest video showing their Panda Degen strategy. Lots of money yet lots of hedging. Have you seen that one and thought about trying it out? I just feel you explain stuff in a way that I get easier and I understand especially any unknown nuances.
I’ve seen in past. Maybe I’ll do it at some point but I just finished doing a handful of casino quest strategies, so would be awhile
I have found that most hedge strategies dont work in the long run.
I'm definitely still a newbie for sure. I think hedge betting though can do well if the dice are hitting. The moment you start point-7 out at the start of rolls is when you get an issue. At that point small wins are not going to overcome those hedge betting losses.
At the end of the day, the house always has an edge. Hedge betting can work, aggressive betting can work. Just what kind of gambler are you and how are the dice working that day. It's all preference.
Plus different strategies can work with others. A low bankroll can use hedging, work their way to, let's say double tap and so on. At the end of the day, just have fun with what you can afford.
Curious, would you try this with the Indian Card Game Style Craps?
The same odds exist in card craps. They just use playing cards to determine which of the the 36 combinations is the “dice roll” so sure, anything I’d play on regular table I’d play with card craps
So, could you start with $12 on the 6 and 8, and go up by $12 if you lose at a $5 table? Seems that would help with a smaller bank roll.
Why not start off at an $18 six and eight. That would at a level or lower your buy-in.
Sure, I showed it as the creator proposed it.
That would only work on a 10 table though with the 21 payout, 24 would pay 28 put in 2 on a 15 table though
It definitely doesn't work on bubble dice. Tried it twice and got hammered. Seems like all the outside numbers roll more. Thinking of trying to place the 5/9 from the getgo.
Bubble machines give same results as real tables. Random.
@@ColorUp I playedd 4 times and got destroyed all 4 times.
I missed why the 7, when the point was off at minute 17, required all the bets to taken away?
I was "working my bets" I say that at 16:58 and there is an "on" marker on one of my bets to indicate this.
Really liked the outcome,,thanks for this video.
It was dicey to start but ended well
Interesting strategy…I’ve always been against Martingale strategies but this one seems pretty cool.
They always work...until they don't and you get stuck for a big loss
@@ColorUp Lol… very true!
How would you play this when you’re shooting? Since you have to place a pass line bet?
Just add an additional minimum pass line bet
Is the math set up where you need to use 42 as buy in or could you get away with lower
How would you play this on a $20 minimum table in roll to win format?
Solid strategy. I almost think just keeping 6 and 8 at the first level and no progressing would work too. Prevents a bad marty run. Just still have the big bankroll to weather a rough run, but you are lasting longer in a worse case scenario. Thiughts?
Yeah, I’m not a big fan of pressing numbers when I lose
Yup and turn it into a grinder and just go up units of 6$
bigger bankrolls puts more money at risk, sounds like a scam to me. I have heard this before, if I only had more money I could have stayed longer but that never ends well. JMO
@@dlvmark sounds like you've been burned a few times. Sorry for your loss
@@Mc.flyyy11 oh ya I have paid the price a few times. Now I play for entertainment risk the minimum. But i never get hurt too bad. This one can hurt you, be careful. There is a lot of excitement about this and I dont want to see people get hurt. You know its so much more difficult to teach someone not to risk large amounts. People are funny.
Are you paying live at all in Reno? GSR? Atlantis?
I am. Been working on a partnership with a local. Will announce soon where people can join me soon.
Nice strategy. Love your videos and explanations. Has anyone seen crap tables go back to $5? Since the pandemic has slowed down and times are still hard for the working man?
I don’t think any have gone down, but the ones that stuck it out at $5 still around. Off strip Vegas for example.
I love this system in combination with a squeeze play. Im out in two hits and throw this one out.
This is my new favorite.
Interesting strategy!
Man, i think i would turn my bets off on the come out. Those 7s tend roll on the come out
They tend to roll once in every 6 rolls according to probability and they don’t know if puck is on or off, but you never know. Every monster long roll includes 7s, and those will be on come out roll so…
One of t h e Best Strategies Yet 🎲🎲🥂
Glad you liked this one
The problem I see is you are starting out shooting for 2 particular numbers (6 and 8). You can get a hot roller, who is hitting everything but, and you are gaining nothing and just waiting for the inevitable 7. You not only need to avoid the 7s but also hit the 6s and 8s early. Very volatile.
You do have to hit 6/8 just to start. They are two most common besides 7, but ya never know what will roll
I see no reason to double the 6 and 8 if a seven rolls.
This system is looking for numbers anyway.
No need to chase them by doubling up.
Also, I would be off on the come out.
Other than that I like it.
I might have missed something - but what is the reason (when) that you get the dealer to pull your place bets down (off the table into your pocket) leaving that number clear. Is it a certain threshold of pushing the bet?
Any time the 4,5,9,10 hit you remove bet and profit. Anytime the 6,8 hit you build those outside numbers back up
@@ColorUp thanks. Great videos, just found you
Cool strategy. Was wondering if modifying it a bit to put winnings on 5&9 after first hit rather than "up town or down town"? Also, what about working into the strategy w two units on 6&8 on a five dollar table?
Sure adapt as you like, using 5/9 picks up one more dice combo, but also pays less than 4/10 so 🤷♂️ and can be scaled down for lower limit tables
You could just press the 6 and 8 if you are feeling it.
Can you do this strategy again please?
why?
In this video is this assuming it’s a $25 table? Would playing $30 on 6/8 work the same? In Vegas on the strip the cheapest I can find is $15, so what would the bet be?
yes you can adapt. so you want to bet enough on 6/8 that with a win, you can bet two more numbers. so on $15 table you need to win $30. A bet of $30 on 6/8 would win you $35, so that would do the trick. could also bet $24 to win $28, and then just toss $2 to dealer to have enough to cover two more numbers.
@@ColorUp I did this last night at Mirage at a 25. Streaky table. Didn’t do so hot, but this morning at Luxor was a 10 dollar and played a modified-ish iron cross with a mix of some of your strategies and doubled my 300 buy in! But as you say, that’s how the dice roll. Back in my room watching more of your vids while I take a breather and see if I can get any more ideas. Thanks man!
you can have the bets working before a point is established?
Sure can
@@ColorUp definitely gonna give this one a try
Why not just bet 4,5,6,8,9,10 like $25 each, 150 total? The way I see it is, 3 - 6 hits of any of those numbers and you are free rolling the rest of the roll. If you roll a 7 right out, you just place the same amount, and 3-6 hits gets back losses, then just continue on the roll, and juice up bets once you are free rolling again. Missing safe dice roll numbers just feels silly when you will bet it anyway.
Sure, just a different way to play
Will try it today on 15$ table. 18$ on 6/8.Will let u know.
2 hours and up 500$. U need to have bankroll and don’t be greedy and take down bets after some time, course 7 is always coming.
Nice color up
@@ColorUp lost it all today 1700$. Cold table.
Great one
Why did you have a no on 6 sorry new to this
The vig on a $50 Buy bet on the 10 is normally $2.
If it is a $50 buy bet on 4，does casino only charges $2? I thought they round up to $3. Also this assumes commision only paid at win, right?
Most casinos the vig for $50 bet will just be $2 either if paid up front or only collected on win. I guess they could round up the $2.50 to $3. But I don’t think standard.
Can someone please post a link to Vince;s page, the link does not work. thank you
Weird he deleted his video.... just youtube search Vince armenti craps
@@ColorUp thank you
Is there a reason you chose that design in table where it’s more expert level knowing where to place your bets vs the beginner friendly version showing odds and delineated betting zones?
Just because I like the cleaner look.
When you play craps in Las Vegas, the tables do not show the payouts for each bet.
They expect you to know them.
Why buy the 4 and 10 ? Does it pay more than a place bet? Update I just watched your buy bet video. That explains the buy bet here.
Yes it pays double
A Buy bet pays the true odds minus a 5% vig.
I watched Vince videos, he uses 5,6,8 and 9. not just 6 and 8 to start,, Where did this come from?
Sent straight from Vince to me. He changes and adapts his with multiple versions.