Wow, What a historian Gary and the team are at Legendary Motorcar are. This has got to be the best place to send auto history to if you are going to restore.
My lust for Mustang's grew in the late 60's with an expat Canadian in Allan Moffat through the 69 Boss 302 factory racer. He was my Ford hero here in Oz for many years, still is for that matter. Our Australian GTHO is fetching multi 100k's these days, even more for low milage examples .Anything Shelby or 60's Mustang or Ford mucle get's my attention. Look him up on the tube and Ford Touring car History .
I have been gathering components to build a Tour deFrance replica. The actual TDF Mustangs were pre production 64.5 hardtops that were prepared by Holman & Moody race shop and then sent to Alan Mann racing in Britain. These are the first Mustangs to win an international race. I think that one of either of these coupes would make a great track toy or autocross event tool.
Steve, Allan Moffett’s first drive in a Shelby Mustang was in my ‘66 Trans-Am coupe. He had the Allan Mann Cortina’s at Stuttgart, Arkansas in 1967. I let him drive it a few laps. John McComb
Always liked the first gen Mustang Coupes the best. Just a timeless design that does not look dated or odd in any way. When I initially saw a first gen fastback I thought it looked like a fish station wagon with those gills on the back. I have grown to appreciate the fastbacks and think they look cool now but the coupe or "Notch back" is still my favorite by far so I think this thing is really neat.
As always, excellent presentation and production....well done! Question: Would you know if those notchbacks started out as HiPo K-Codes like the Shelby fastback GT350s did?
The car is stunning but the story and men who built them and drove them are legendary. Oh..by the way loved watching you and your dad on t.v.!! It was a great show! Hope to see you guys on again??
@@legendarymotorcar I can understand that..I'll be watching and thanks for what you and your dad do you guys are a class act for sure does your dad still have that challenger that y'all built to run against the super car? That was a bad boy!" I loved it!! God bless and stay healthy 😷✌
“Straight out of a GT350”… you should say “Straight out of a GT350 R-model.” Beautiful car…now how about the 67 model your dad has been behind the wheel lately!
An observation not addressed: Is this a GT model or not. It doesnt seem to be as it has regular Mustang side and rocker trim and not GT trim. So its apparently not a GT but then why the GTs light bar ??
I have a problem with the statement that a Shelby could not run cause it was a 2 seater, and that may be true. The problem was that no other manufacturer had a "fastback" sedan and "fastbacks" had a definite areodynamic advantage. To keep an even playing field Ford had to use their Mustang "coupe". In 1966 this Mustang would be competing against Novas, Darts, Valiants, and maybe the Corvair!
Not true, based on number of seats not body style. Porsche 911s were even more “fastback” than a Mustang 2+2 (Ford did not call them fastbacks) but they were homologated as a 4-seater and raced as sedans in SCCA whereas the GT350 was homologated as a 2-seater and raced in sports car class. With the popularity of Trans-Am Ford saw value in homologating their performance Mustangs as sedans and thus changed name to “Sportsroof” and added windows for the rear passengers.
@@markhale8084 then why was the Mustang 2+2 fastback not allowed to race. Yeah I said fastback, I think that ford called their two Mustang body styles Sportroof and Coupe. The term fastback is a cliche from 1965 and everybody used it. The 2+2 nomenclature means two front seats and two back seats. I don't remember Porches running in this class or in the later Trans Am classes. But there were two classes that competed together, two liter and under, and the five liter and under. In 1967 Porche lobbied SCCA to reclassify the 911 as a sedan and it dominated the two liter class. In reality Mustangs and Porche raced together, but in different classes.
@@markhale8084 also remember that later, when their was Barracudas, Challengers, Camaros, Firebirds, Cougars and Javelines competing, the sportroof Mustangs were allowed. BUT not in 1966!
The 2+2 body was allowed to race but not as a 4 seat sedan. The GT-350 was homologated as a 2 seater and I’m sure Ford never tried to homologate a standard 2+2 as a 4 seat sedan. Ford called them 2+2s in 65 thru 68 (65/66 even were lettered as such on front fender). That is basically saying car is not a sedan as the +2 is extra seating in a pinch. Back in 60s there were Mustang 2+2s racing alongside Mustang GT-350s (they were originally called Mustang GT-350s and not Shelby GT-350s) in B-production while the “notchbacks” raced in A-sedan or Trans-am because they were homologated as 4 seaters. Besides, except for maybe Daytona I doubt there was much of an aerodynamic difference between the two body styles on your typical SCCA track. You still can’t ignore fact that 911 has a fastback yet was homologated as a 4 seater and thus raced as a sedan. As far as the later sportsroof, as I indicated already, Ford saw value in having the performance models race in Trans-Am and thus the 69/70 “fastbacks” were renamed sportsroof and grew extra windows AND then were homologated as 4 seat sedans.
@@markhale8084 you keep talking about 67, 68, and 69. This RUclips video is about a 1966 Mustang. Things were different in 1966. Mustang had a "Sportsroof" and a "Coupe". No other manufacturer had a fastback model in 1966, except the Plymouth Barracuda. And also, you must remember that the SCCA will have one race and there may be two, three or maybe five classes competing in the one race. You may not be the first to cross the finish, but you could be first in your class. In the late 1960s, Porche and Mustang competed in different classes. The surprising thing is, it was not unusual for the two liter class to cross the finish line ahead of the five liter classes. To the best of my knowledge and research, these classes never raced at Daytona, but top speeds of 160 were somewhat common. I think that a fastback body style would be worth 50 to 75 horses at that speed. Or maybe 10 mph on the top end.
31k subscribers???? Are we really living under rocks now people?? This channel is fantastic
LMC has some legendary cars.
@@dave99887 your not kidding.... have a good night man!
Absolutely
Was free to air in Australia for a while when his dad did Dream Car Garage. Still well and truly up there...
great job, was fortunate to see LMC sundays with my father when your dad did show!!! as a younger man... iwas hooked on cars when born in 1964
Wow, What a historian Gary and the team are at Legendary Motorcar are. This has got to be the best place to send auto history to if you are going to restore.
My lust for Mustang's grew in the late 60's with an expat Canadian in Allan Moffat through the 69 Boss 302 factory racer. He was my Ford hero here in Oz for many years, still is for that matter. Our Australian GTHO is fetching multi 100k's these days, even more for low milage examples .Anything Shelby or 60's Mustang or Ford mucle get's my attention. Look him up on the tube and Ford Touring car History .
Ur as great at telling these car stories like ur father is , great job kiddo , I love ur guys videos, keep ‘em coming !
Yes...I WANT a car like this!!!!
Yes! I most definitely want a car like this. Especially being a Ford guy.
I have been gathering components to build a Tour deFrance replica. The actual TDF Mustangs were pre production 64.5 hardtops that were prepared by Holman & Moody race shop and then sent to Alan Mann racing in Britain. These are the first Mustangs to win an international race.
I think that one of either of these coupes would make a great track toy or autocross event tool.
This Shelby Mustang is stunning!!! Thanks for sharing this exciting video!!! 👍👍
Steve, Allan Moffett’s first drive in a Shelby Mustang was in my ‘66 Trans-Am coupe. He had the Allan Mann Cortina’s at Stuttgart, Arkansas in 1967. I let him drive it a few laps. John McComb
Amazing story of an Amazing Car! Thanks for sharing it with us! 👍👍🐍🐍
I agree Rich!!!
Thanks guys 😎
Always liked the first gen Mustang Coupes the best. Just a timeless design that does not look dated or odd in any way. When I initially saw a first gen fastback I thought it looked like a fish station wagon with those gills on the back. I have grown to appreciate the fastbacks and think they look cool now but the coupe or "Notch back" is still my favorite by far so I think this thing is really neat.
You tell the stories very well Gary. I would rip the snout out of that car.
As always, excellent presentation and production....well done!
Question: Would you know if those notchbacks started out as HiPo K-Codes like the Shelby fastback GT350s did?
Another frigin goodn eh? Love the show!
Great video thank you
Gary
Great review and I learned something about a car I didn’t know about.
Great job!
Dang, dude your doing a better job than dear old dad!!! Way to go!!!
I can only imagine what that beautiful peice of automotive history is worth!!!.🤙🇺🇸🙏
Great video... watched it 3 times already .....and YES I definitely want a car like this
Excellent channel with true enthusiasts
Great piece of Shelby history. I feel like I'm well versed in Shelby history but I always learn a little bit more from you guys.
Great vid!!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍
You do a hell of a job Gary, Your old man can relax His business is in good hands🏎🏎
Just saw her, 41A, at Owls Head Transportation Museum in Maine TODAY!
Nice old Mustang.
I need it for groceries
I'm a Chevy guy But I Would loveToHave the other car
The car is stunning but the story and men who built them and drove them are legendary. Oh..by the way loved watching you and your dad on t.v.!! It was a great show! Hope to see you guys on again??
Thanks Kevin, We're sticking to youtube, lots of old Dream car footage on our channel as well!
@@legendarymotorcar I can understand that..I'll be watching and thanks for what you and your dad do you guys are a class act for sure does your dad still have that challenger that y'all built to run against the super car? That was a bad boy!" I loved it!! God bless and stay healthy 😷✌
i agree
I need that car 🚗
SWEET!!!
This is a very high quality vid, awesome !
But am i the only who doesn't understand that's a Coupe but it's called a sedan ?
What's a force heater?
is the tach supposed to be canted like that?
“Straight out of a GT350”… you should say “Straight out of a GT350 R-model.” Beautiful car…now how about the 67 model your dad has been behind the wheel lately!
Grand turismo sound track 👍🏼
Why is the tach rotated?
Anyone know how to make your headlights like this?
Bitch'n Gnarly Cool car ! \m/ In the process of making a comfy streetable clone of a '68 Trans Am coupe. :)
Right on!!!
also there was a notch back that raced at bridgehampton L. I. N. Y.
Fabulous car, given the chance Ken would have really smoked it!
An observation not addressed: Is this a GT model or not. It doesnt seem to be as it has regular Mustang side and rocker trim and not GT trim. So its apparently not a GT but then why the GTs light bar ??
Me,, hey babe I found my new Daly driver ,, seats 4 has good pic up in traffic lol
I have a problem with the statement that a Shelby could not run cause it was a 2 seater, and that may be true. The problem was that no other manufacturer had a "fastback" sedan and "fastbacks" had a definite areodynamic advantage. To keep an even playing field Ford had to use their Mustang "coupe". In 1966 this Mustang would be competing against Novas, Darts, Valiants, and maybe the Corvair!
Not true, based on number of seats not body style. Porsche 911s were even more “fastback” than a Mustang 2+2 (Ford did not call them fastbacks) but they were homologated as a 4-seater and raced as sedans in SCCA whereas the GT350 was homologated as a 2-seater and raced in sports car class. With the popularity of Trans-Am Ford saw value in homologating their performance Mustangs as sedans and thus changed name to “Sportsroof” and added windows for the rear passengers.
@@markhale8084 then why was the Mustang 2+2 fastback not allowed to race. Yeah I said fastback, I think that ford called their two Mustang body styles Sportroof and Coupe. The term fastback is a cliche from 1965 and everybody used it. The 2+2 nomenclature means two front seats and two back seats. I don't remember Porches running in this class or in the later Trans Am classes. But there were two classes that competed together, two liter and under, and the five liter and under. In 1967 Porche lobbied SCCA to reclassify the 911 as a sedan and it dominated the two liter class. In reality Mustangs and Porche raced together, but in different classes.
@@markhale8084 also remember that later, when their was Barracudas, Challengers, Camaros, Firebirds, Cougars and Javelines competing, the sportroof Mustangs were allowed. BUT not in 1966!
The 2+2 body was allowed to race but not as a 4 seat sedan. The GT-350 was homologated as a 2 seater and I’m sure Ford never tried to homologate a standard 2+2 as a 4 seat sedan. Ford called them 2+2s in 65 thru 68 (65/66 even were lettered as such on front fender). That is basically saying car is not a sedan as the +2 is extra seating in a pinch. Back in 60s there were Mustang 2+2s racing alongside Mustang GT-350s (they were originally called Mustang GT-350s and not Shelby GT-350s) in B-production while the “notchbacks” raced in A-sedan or Trans-am because they were homologated as 4 seaters.
Besides, except for maybe Daytona I doubt there was much of an aerodynamic difference between the two body styles on your typical SCCA track. You still can’t ignore fact that 911 has a fastback yet was homologated as a 4 seater and thus raced as a sedan.
As far as the later sportsroof, as I indicated already, Ford saw value in having the performance models race in Trans-Am and thus the 69/70 “fastbacks” were renamed sportsroof and grew extra windows AND then were homologated as 4 seat sedans.
@@markhale8084 you keep talking about 67, 68, and 69. This RUclips video is about a 1966 Mustang. Things were different in 1966. Mustang had a "Sportsroof" and a "Coupe". No other manufacturer had a fastback model in 1966, except the Plymouth Barracuda. And also, you must remember that the SCCA will have one race and there may be two, three or maybe five classes competing in the one race. You may not be the first to cross the finish, but you could be first in your class. In the late 1960s, Porche and Mustang competed in different classes. The surprising thing is, it was not unusual for the two liter class to cross the finish line ahead of the five liter classes. To the best of my knowledge and research, these classes never raced at Daytona, but top speeds of 160 were somewhat common. I think that a fastback body style would be worth 50 to 75 horses at that speed. Or maybe 10 mph on the top end.
Sold…$700.000.00, Barrett Jackson Scottsdale, 2023
WAS THIS GARY SPRAGGINS OLD CAR, HE SHOULD BE THE OWNER THAT WAS IN TEXAS
If Ken did get to race it he would have rebuilt it first. One of the finest British racing drivers of all.
needs got nothing to do with it!!
rad??????????????????????
Sorry...should have read your spiel first...I see they were K-Codes!...thanks
They are COUPES! NOT notch backs. Jeez...
Looks bloody awful, like it's made out of plastic. Ridiculously over restored.
Only one way to fix that... take it racing