Hilton Honors Points : How much are they worth??
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Amen, brother! I just booked a 5 night stay in Nashville for 280,000 HH points that covered the $3,720 it would have cost. That was 1.32¢ per point redemption!!
When we were looking I found multiple (at least 20) options for over .75¢ per point value as well. This was in multiple cities in the 7-8 states that we were looking for a specific week. So, I totally agree that those who discount Hilton Honors points are spitting out junk they heard somewhere else. Not to mention the fact that Hilton and their associated credit cards give out tons of points per dollar. Generally it’s more than other chains and their credit cards from what I’ve found.
Absolutely!
My favorite is the Conrad, and second is DoubleTree for the cookies😋
Love the cookies!!
My upcoming trip is the Canopy Chicago Central Loop for 5 nights, 1.41 cpp at time of booking. $2,830 for 50k/night
Surpass holder but considering upgrade to Aspire for an LA trip off the free night cert
That’s a great redemption. I’m a big fan of the aspire for travelers.
I was recently down to 50,000 HH points, as Hilton dominates my hotel stays. With a signup bonus on the business card, and transferring MR points while watching this video, I'm back up to 500,000.
Holy smokes! You’re Hilton Rich! Go make those memories. S
As a retiree I appreciate the Surpass Card. I now have Diamond status
Status perks are another reason why I like the Hilton Program!
We are staying hilton fort lauderdale in march & only 80k points a night ocean view 2Q HA just fyi only 320k points for 5 days. I think conrad is 95k per night . Might check if availability would save you 45k points over 3 days
Yes you are right. The Hilton is right next door and it is really awesome. We went to the Conrad last March and my little boy thought it was amazing so i wanted to go back one more time.
Love my Hilton Aspire, Business card and their loyalty program! Today I transferred 110k MR points with the +30% bonus without second guessing. That 5th night free is clutch and I've gotten some nice suite upgrades. Thanks for the info 💪💪💪
Nice work!
That was encouraging I got about a half a million hhp. If I get anywhere near a penny I will be very happy. Thank you for the video. H2 properties may be considered lower end but my wife and I really like them
They really are nice! I stayed at an H2 in Charlotte that was super cool
@@LukesPointsandMiles I stayed at the one in eugene , Oregon two weeks ago. The people there reminded me of the 70s. I loved the '70s
@@davemartinez4143 🤣
I just booked a trip with my gf to jamaica rose hall resort for next month and got .645 CPP. Might not b the best redemption but at least its going to b a fun time that i would of never experienced other wise. Plus with diamond status i might get upgraded and get free food. Plus the free night is super nice
"might get upgraded" BRO it's not guaranteed. Book the room you want
@@911eVoX i did book the room i wanted… ive never been upgraded as a diamond member But its still ok to have hope. Ive only ever been upgraded when booking thru FH&R with my platinum card.
I agree. I hate the cpp value system because if I can go where I want, it doesn’t matter what for points, then I don’t care how many points it takes
I'm glad you didn't just spout numbers for the points evaluation. Wish there were more videos like this
I felt like I had a good opportunity with all these travel plans already scheduled.
Hilton is the only hotel brand where I have stayed and never complained about a dirty room. They really take care of you.
I have to admit. I’ve had some housekeeping issues.
The most correct statement I have ever heard, I had similar crazy experiences when I booked to my brother 42 days in Turkey which costed me 210k plus Diamond status and giving a gold status because we reached 42 nights plus 20k bonus after reached 40 nights so we only spent 190k points instead of $6300 for regular rooms when in fact that my brother and his wife got mini suite for 30 days with his gold status and 12 days full suite with his Diamond status. So actually the price was supposed to be paid 3X of the $6300.
That’s an awesome redemption!!
I like tapestry collection when I’m paying with cash and Hilton resorts/Conrad with points (they usually have the best value)
Yeah that makes sense.
I agree with you I have used several million points over the years and always get good value for them. If the value is not there I will pay cash. I typically get between .8-1.25 cents per point. I do alot of 5 days plus hotel stays where I get the 5th night free. Good viedo.
Thanks Wayne! Sounds like you’re killing it!
I do this as well, I usually only book 5 night stays with points for this very reason
Shit, Luke. I wouldn’t be caught dead in any of these properties. I would rather spend the nights at the motel 6 and be happy I saved a ton of points and/or cash!!
We all have different styles. There are some nice motels 6 properties and some fairly rough ones.
@@LukesPointsandMiles Right, man! Haha, honestly they are absolutely nothing special, but I would love to stay in one of those nice properties you mention in the video, but I could not live with myself spending on them like that so I have to sacrifice a little!
@@911eVoX it’s just points man. You can get them for just using a credit card. No need to hoard them. Spend them and live a little.
I won't redeem unless I getting 1 cent per point but I usually do pretty aspirational stays. I've gotten insane value when booking at the Waldorf Astoria Los Cabos Pedregal nightly rate was well over 1k per night. I booked 5 nights for 480k hilton points at 120k points per night received the 5th night free.
Very cool!!
Thanks for the video! Working through Hilton cards right now for a Europe trip next year!
It’s great that you can get all of them!
This was interesting. I'm team Marriott at the moment and everytime I look to use points it's 0.6 to 0.8, looking for close 1.0 at least.
Marriott seems to give the most value at the more affordable properties. I have a stay at the aloft by the cowboys stadium next month that I think I got good value with.
My first experience with Hilton is getting the Surpass card and getting the 130K point bonus. Tried to book my very first Hilton hotel, found a cheaper price online and applied for a price match, spent.an hour or two on the phone and via email, gave them photographic evidence of the exact same room type and dates, and they wouldn't honor it.
And for anyone wondering, to book that room with points was literally a 0.25 cents per point redemption. 60K points for a $150/night hotel. I regret ever getting a Hilton card and won't be staying with them.
I got 150K bonus with the IHG Premier card and have already booked eight nights at two different hotels and I'm not even halfway through the bonus points, that's how valuable those points are.
This was the Doubletree in San Juan for anyone wondering. You could find it as low as $141 a night online, and Hilton charges about $170 a night. It costs 60K Hilton points which is a 0.25 cents per point redemption.
Those ihg points sound great!
@@LukesPointsandMiles yeah the hotels were pretty solid as they were international. Good amenities.
Igh maybe better deal but someone like me trying to book Hawaii igh is only a holiday Inn. I like to stay resorts or nicer hotels when on vacations. Holiday inns are great for between road trips. Hilton aaa is huge discount over normal prices and using points is kinda awful rates. I transfer my Amex points over to Hilton at a 2.5x rate currently.
I have a terrible time finding >0.5cpp value when searching for Hilton award stays. Could you do a video explaining your process for finding outsized value for your Hilton award stays?
I will add it to the list but it’s not a complicated process. If it’s .5 or under, I use cash. If it’s over I consider using points.
Im team conrad when i wanna b fancy.
double tree when im being myself😅
Can’t argue with that. Doubletree has always been generous with the upgrades for me.
Man, I always look for redemption options for Hilton properties. I check out places that I would generally visit anyway. At dates that I would like to visit them. And in all honesty, the points have very low value. I cannot justify committing to the Hilton honors program when there’s Hyatt. It would make sense to get one card, use the sign on bonus for just 1 trip, and it’s a done deal. For me at least.
Hyatt is great if there is a property where you’re going
Luke, this is by far one of the most valuable videos you've made! As you're a frequent Hilton hotel connoisseur, I consider you to be one of the experts on this topic, and this is a fantastic video documenting your personal experience with redemptions. Thank you so much for this video! Also you're hilarious, and I hope one day we can grab a drink and we can talk about points and miles!!
Thank you for the kind words, Stan! Yea let’s definitely do that one day.
I like your videos I have the surpass card i'm wondering if I should use it as my main card or will that not be a good idea?
Depends on your set up and your goals. For me the surpass is great for $15k then it goes in the drawer.
@@LukesPointsandMiles I only stayed at hilton but i would like to stay at more in the future and book my stays with my points.
Favorite Hilton hotel brand is Homewood suites having the extra space when traveling with the fam is a necessity! Full disclosure I have actually started using them for myself when I am traveling alone because I like having the apartment feel and amenities that you just don’t get in traditional hotels
I can understand that!!
How was the Conrad Ft Lauderdale? Thinking of booking a stay there. You’ll love Savannah and yes it will be busy on St Paddy’s day. The historic district is a great walking area. I also have had some mixed experiences at Hilton properties. Soiled sheets where they obviously didn’t change them on a couple of occasions. It’s not fun to pull back the top covers at 10 pm and find a surprise. Now I do a cleanliness check when I arrive.
Conrad Ft Lauderdale is the best hotel I’ve stayed at in the US.
I'm glad to see this video, because I recently switched my non-category spend from the active cash to the aspire, because I figure if I get at least .67 cpp, I'm coming out ahead. The published point valuations were making me worried that I was making a bad choice, but you've convinced me that I made the right choice.
I'm planning on using the benefits of the Aspire along with MR points I earn to plan an amazing trip for my mom, since she's never stayed in a $1000+ per night hotel or flown first class.
She will enjoy that fancy hotel room!
Ruggedly handsome good looks earned you a subscriber
Yes!!!
Thanks for the video -- I appreciate your perspective, but my experience as a budget traveler is different. I stay at hotels ~10 weekends per year in various cities such as Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York, but I always go for the absolute cheapest "acceptable" hotel that I can find. These hotels are almost always less than $200/night (often around $150/night), and it is very difficult to get more than 0.5 cents per Hilton Honors point in this scenario. On the other hand, MR points provide very decent value on United "saver" economy flights, booked through partners.
I’ve had better luck with Marriott when it comes to the more economical stays.
Luke, you’ll love the Hilton Hawaiian Village Waikiki. Our family had a fantastic stay doing the exact same method. Have fun!!!
I still like Hilton a lot but it’s now my number #2 brand. Im finding more value for family travel with Hyatt once I did a Globalist challenge.
Hyatt seems to be a favorite once you get the higher status. One day I may check that out!!
Great you’re getting value out of it, but the average for majority of folks ranges b/w .4-.6 because not everyone travel during a holiday
I think that's one of those things where you've heard it so many times, you believe it. I have gotten poor redemptions before - one example is the Hilton properties outside Disney World. The best I could get was around .5. But with the millions of points ive deployed with Hilton .4-.6 is NOT my average value and it doesn't ever have to be for you or anyone else. Unless you are good with it.
I put Hyatt first on my list then Marriott. But I just booked a three night stay with Hilton and took advantage of the crazy transfer bonus. You'll enjoy Savannah during St Pat's it's great I've been a couple of times while I was stationed down there. Great video 👍🏿
Thanks for watching!!
I am so glad you posted this video. I have known they are worth more than 0.5 or 0.6 for years. I value them at 0.8, and when you include 5 night stays, status upgrades, and the frequent Amex point transfer bonuses, their true value soars higher. This is why I think Hilton Surpass is one of the most underrated cards out there.
I agree with everything you just posted.
Great video! I respect guys who are not afraid to challenge conventional wisdom and I agree with your thoughts on this.
Thanks, Ramon!!!
awesome informative video!
Yeh, That's really amazing video.
Thanks for watching
I like your videos. I am from Germany and in September my wife and I fly to the USA. I used my Lufthansa miles and honestly I am happy to get rid of them. Booking with LH isn’t what it used to be. The availability of flights is a joke and meanwhile you gotta pay like 800 Dollars on taxes and so on for a „free bonus flight“. I concentrated very much on Hilton Honors the last two years. For us it was the best decision. We made great trips and stayed in decent hotels like the Conrad Midtown Manhattan or at the London Hilton Bankside. In Chicago we will stay five nights at the Waldorf Astoria. All paid with HH points. Hotel points have more value to me than airline miles. But I think I depends on the individual circumstances which program fits to you and your needs.
@@HoldMySoda nice! We love Germany and we’ve visited twice in the last year!!!
Awesome video! Hilton Honors is amazing. Their CCs have great multipliers + the FNC can be used at all but like 30 properties around the world. Value in pts redemptions is what you make of it. A free vacation is a free vacation. I don't care if someone thinks it's not a great points redemption as long as I think it's fair. Plus you can get Gold or Diamond with their CCs. It's absolutely crazy that people can't see the value in their program. Thanks for the great video!
I agree with all of that.
Love the shirt! Great explanation of points use and value.
Thanks for watching!!
I think having Diamond status makes the points more valuable for me since I’ll be staying at Hiltons a lot more now!
Diamond is big part of my travel enjoyment for sure! And it helps rack up the HH points on paid stays.
I vote for HLT giving you bonus points for sarcasm and dry humor. Thanks for making me laugh!
Thank you sir!!! I’m slowly adding in some personality while trying to emphasize the content.
@@LukesPointsandMiles I like it! 👍
@@LukesPointsandMiles I like it! 👍
Absolutely love the Hilton cards (aspire) . I can use the free night and turn it into a special date night with my Family.
Yes I am definitely a big fan of the aspire.
Thanks for the info! Hilton cards are my favorite cards and the Aspire card is by far the best hotel card.
This video perfectly explains why “your mileage may vary” when it comes to point redemptions. Videos like these are some of the most valuable videos in the entire credit card space. Getting to see your personal experience as someone who is a Hilton aficionado is super helpful Luke! Loving these travel videos man. Keep it up!
Thank you, sir. I’m hoping to report on my next million Hilton points some time.
@@LukesPointsandMiles I’d love to hear about it man. You definitely have a lot more experience than most with it so it’s always great to learn from you.
Luke, I've been enjoying your content for a while, and your tips have helped me save money and make my Family travel much easier.
I love hearing that!!
Great Video Luke My experiences are similar to yours. I feel like if you stay in properties such as the Waldorf Astoria or the Conrad, you get a better redemption rate but you can get good value in other Hilton properties too
I think the properties with very poor redemptions heavily weigh down the average.
@@LukesPointsandMiles absolutely
Just wanted to say that this is one of my favorite videos of yours. It’s the one that convinced me to get the Hilton aspire card, as much as any review of that card.
Thank you sir! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Luke thanks again for another video! Quick question , Amex currently dropped a lot of bonus offers and Hilton has the 1000= 2600 how good is this deal? Also will you do a video about the Amex bonus offers since it’s so many and hard for me to decide where to transfer bonus thank you !
I think the Hilton transfer “can” be a good deal. I would not normally do any transfers unless I had a redemption in mind and I was booking something. I’m not sure about the Amex transfer onus video. Maybe Sunday or Monday?
@@LukesPointsandMiles thank you keep up the good work!
Awesome stuff Luke. So do you still have Surpass and Aspire only? Do you think it's worth getting no annual honors card also on top of those two? Im debating. I figure I can always wait for upgrade offer....
I will eventually upgrade the surpass to a second Hilton at which time I may get the no annual fee card for another bonus the after the first year upgrade that one to a third aspire
How many hotel cards do you keep? How many hotel cards makes sense for someone who only travels three or four times per year?
I love the fine hotels and resorts program for vacations, and I would like to pick up an aspire card for that diamond status and a luxury vacation late this year. But I go to a lot of conventions and conferences, and those are almost always at Hyatts or Marriotts. but I have found it difficult to make the commitment to a world of Hyatt card considering how difficult it is to climb up to globalist.
I’m big on hotel cards. The aspire being my favorite. You have a rough situation, I would go with the best card with the hotel chain you stay at most. You won’t like having an aspire card and staying at hyatts all the time. You’ll feel like you’re wasting opportunity
Got a bunch of knowledge from this video, great work done luke
Glad to hear it!
I love that you stated "why"... To make memories with the spouse and child. In the last couple of years, I've pivoted my mindset this way too. I used to think "I'll go there later..." or "I'll travel when...", but life is short, the kids are only little for a while, might as well make the best of it and make memories.
Absolutely. My boy has some great memories of some really cool places and I want to really build on that.
Thanks for the Informations, Great video
Nice video, Amazing work Done
The widely respected credit card authority “The Points Guy” claims that Hilton Honors points are worth $0.006 per point, based on their database. Luke, how do we as consumers reconcile that figure with the elevated values you report in this video? 🤔
**edited. My first response wasn’t fair. I’m sure his value can be seen as fair or correct, however if you take all the terrible redemptions and either choose not to stay there or use cash, then that will leave the properties with better redemptions. With almost 600 properties, you can be choosie when finding a property to redeem your points. There are many great options.
Thank you so much for The video
Thank you! For watching.
Luke, wake up,.. Amex has a bonus points transfer to Hilton. Started today till October 31st.
Yes sir! I transferred some point to Hilton and I'm all tapped out of MR points. All my travel is booked through June. Hopefully I can take advantage of some of the bonuses before they expire.
@@LukesPointsandMiles good job brother 💪🏼
Hilton Aspire is high on my list for future cards. just trying to figure out between and the time I get it early next year how I will put spend on it vs on other cards. Obviously any travel expenses and stays at Hilton where I don't want to use points (which is probably 4-6 stays at hotels a year for me).
Fortunately, the aspire card isn’t a card that needs to be used a lot. I don’t really use mine much except for Hilton stays.
I keep saying in comments elsewhere that Surpass > Gold card. 3x base points vs 1x, plus free night w/ no limit & possible suite upgrade if you're diamond. That netted me way more than $240 uber/grubhub credit last year.
I can see how it is very valuable. However, it lacks versatility since it can only be used at Hilton and MR points can a lot of times be transferred to Hilton 1: 2.8
Boom💥💥💥 Super helpful video
You know. The other day I was looking at booking at a Hilton (the same one you mentioned in Savannah) for my wife. I was looking at the points value. I don't have a Hilton card, so I was looking at transferring my points to Hilton. It struck me that, even if you get 1:2 MR:Hilton, you're doubling your cpp. For instance, a room I was looking at for 5 nights at $1761 would be 60k a night (or 240k points because 5th night is free; that's 0.73 cpp. But, if I transfer the points over, I'm really only using 120k MR points, so it comes out to 1.47 cpp. I don't fly international, so I struggle to use my points; I think Hilton could be a good transfer since MR points are easy to accumulate (luckily I have the trifecta). I'm glad you pointed out the same thing. I was almost feeling crazy because people were using, essentially, half the valuation for Hilton points.
The problem with a blanket value for points is the blogger generally use “the average” redemption value. So even the really terrible ones go into the equation. You as the travelers you’re only going to use your points to stays for, most likely, the top 50% of redemptions. So while the average could be x, you’re going to get at least Y or you’re not using points.
I agree with you great video
Thanks, Don!!
Great video as usual. Love the way you broke down your actual bookings. I have to ask if you are booking the cheapest rooms in order to maximize diamond status?
Most of the time I book at standard room. The exception is at then Roosevelt in New Orleans I book a little better and try to get an upgrade to something special.
@@LukesPointsandMiles Thank you. This let's me know to game plan in the future. Keep bringing the heat sir 🔥 👌🏾
AMEX and Hilton sure is pushing for this credit cards. I’ve been offered many times to sign up over the mail.
I think they are great products!
Yes, they are but I just signed up for a Venture Card with SUB.
@@livefreevinnie nice move. I’ll be talking more a on the venture X soon!
Thanks a lot luke
Thanks for watching!!
Damn, I was gonna send you a giant gang of beautiful women, but I guess I'll hold off until the little one is a bit older ✊🏾
That boy won’t need any help! Haha🤣
Amazing video
Thanks for watching!!
Good information
Thank you!!
Love Embassy Suites for my daily omelets 😋
I haven’t stayed at an ES. I really want to!!
In general would the Hilton Honors card & the Hilton Surpass be a good play? 230k HH points for combined $3k spend in 3 months? Am I calculating the rate of return correctly to be ~38% return on spend valuing the HH points at 0.5?
Depends on your situation. I would do it
Embassy Suites is my favorite.
Great video Luke!! I have the HH no annual fee card, just reached 100k points. How long did it take to earn those massive points?
I’m not sure. Those points are from a few different sources. Spend, bonuses from 3 different cards and I know I bought 180k for $900. I think I got my first Hilton card in 2020.
Thanks amex boy😄
I just did a chase video!!
I'm curious and new to this game. Do you take the card for the bonus and cancel after a year? I currently got an offer for the surpass card with 130k hh and annual fee waived for a year. Do I take it and cancel after a year?
I rarely recommend canceling a card after one year. especially if you are at the beginning of your credit card journey. I would only be looking at cards that make long term sense.
Do any of the Hilton cards give you centurion lounge access?
Negative. Priority pass only.
So its best face value will convert more in your favor if u use them to book hotel stays but what about really money? I have 726k points. Is there a better company to redeem with? Amazon, green dot, etc? (To many cheat codes in this money industry)
I would not advise anyone using their Hilton Points for anything besides staying at Hilton properties. I don’t know any other redemption that would give a comparable value.
I have that card and love it for my lifestyle...do you earn hilton points if you use points to book the hilton?? Thnx for the video ..great info
No. Award stays don’t earn rewards.
@@LukesPointsandMiles ty for your quick response
How many people can stay with you if you use points for a night stay? Up to 4?
I’m not sure, I think they depends on the room and the property.
A cool video would be
Benefits from booking through amex fine hotels and resorts
Vs
Booking direct with Hilton or Marriott and taking advantage of your status there
Not exactly. If I book a Hilton through FHR and I get the benefits from both programs. All my status benefits plus the FHR benefits.
@@LukesPointsandMiles so it’s better to book through FHR?
@@DavidGarciajrtx it can be. Especially if you’re paying in cash.
@@LukesPointsandMiles okay, I feel like this changes things. I was interested in getting the Hilton aspire but if fhr is the most beneficial then I won’t get it
@@DavidGarciajrtx well I don’t know if I would say that. Both have their merits and I have both the platinum and the aspire and I plan to get another aspire.
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Reason why many people claim hilton points have low value its because the amount of points they ask is just ridiculous 😂.
There are some examples of that but I’ve gotten some really good redemptions. But then again I’ve redeemed some lousy values as well.
New Orleans Waldorf Astoria is 80k per week nite/$285 - ??
I’m not sure what the price is currently. The cash price fluctuates wildly.
I do not know what this guy is talking about but don’t need AMEX credit card to buy or collect Hilton honor points. Please everyone do research before getting another credit card.
Ha! This is a credit card channel. Are you lost?
@@LukesPointsandMiles I’m trying to tell viewers not to get credit cards since it’s worse thing ever invented by mankind.
@@SilverHonda0767 here on this channel we use credit cards to travel the world for next to nothing. We don’t accumulate debt, we use credit cards responsibly and pay them off every month and never pay interest. I can understand if you get yourself in debt by using credit cards but we don’t need your comments here. We are a responsible group that uses our financial tools to our advantage.
@@LukesPointsandMiles I didn’t say I was in credit card debt but I’m trying to inform viewers to be careful getting AMX credit card. You could of said to buy points through the H.H. is a alternative too.
@@SilverHonda0767 I don’t think you understand. But you are more than welcome to check out some of my beginner videos. We have folks on here that earn thousands and sometimes tens of thousands of dollars in travel by being responsible with their credit and their finances. I invite you to stop commenting and start learning. We would love to have you around. Then again, if you know you don’t have the discipline to use credit products to your advantage then I suggest you move on. This would not be the place for you or your comments.
Why is it that when you book with points the room cost more than doubles sometimes. Honolulu Hilton was like $350 per night no points. $700ish per night with points. Seems like an awful deal.
I’m not sure I’m following you. I don’t understand.
@@LukesPointsandMiles when looking at it earlier it appeard whenever I wanted to book with points the room cost was much higher than paying non points. Looking again I'm not seeing this. I'm considering the aspire card for the points and free night for my Hawaii stay.
@@chrish883 love Hawaii! And I love free nights
Looks like I was comparing aaa vs to the point price. Kinda sucks aaa would get such greater discount over Dimond member of Hilton when aaa is only $100 year.
@@chrish883 yeah they is very interesting.
cool T
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Long story short you're saying the card is -a 4.7% cashback credit card with an annual fee.- *Edit:* This math is wrong. Based on what Luke describes he is earning the equivalent of more than double and possibly almost triple this percent cashback.
Thanks for prompting me to double check the math, Luke.
Not at all. Which card are you talking about?
@@LukesPointsandMiles Sorry, I made a mathematical error. I've edited the original post.
In case you're curious about the mistake I made, I was bizarrely inputting a cost of $1 spend to earn 5 Hilton Rewards points. However, according to what you described you are typically earning many more points per dollar.
Eg: Buying a flight on a regular platinum Amex & converting at the rate you described produces 13 Hilton Rewards points per $1 spend. Almost triple my initial estimate.
Thanks for gently following up on this so quickly as I did not intend to misinform your viewers.
Garden Inn
Conrad
I like your style!