***** Pit himself has stated that he wasn't in Melee and seems to be salty about it, so it would have been funny to see him hold a grudge against Mewtwo and Roy
I just realized that the final frame on his victory movie (for clearing classic) has characters that somewhat represent the mother 3 cast. From the right, Boney, Hinawa, Flint, Claus, Lucas.
Lucas: Oh hey Pit!! Nice too see you again Pit: Who is that? Lucas: Um, it's me, Lucas. Palutena: I have no data on this fighter!! Lucas: I've only been gone for one game. Viridi: It must be an intruder from another dimention!! Lucas: You know what? I'll just leave.
Palutena's guidance will be the same for every DLC character. Remember,it takes a while for a character to be designed as well as making in-game details.
MGCade Times my heart exploded because of cuteness while watching this video: 9 The sleeping animation is by far one of the cutest things in this video.
Pit: Is that Ness without a hat? Palutena: That's Lucas, if you remember, you've encountered him before. Pit: Isn't he that Psychic kid? Viridi: Yeah, watch out for his PK thunder, it can launch him forward if he hits it into himself. Pit: I'll make sure that never happens! Palutena: Good luck Pit.
Pit: I kinda feel bad for Lucas. Palutena: Really? How come? Pit: Well, he was separated from his brother, his mom was terminated...long story short, his life's been a tragedy. Palutena: You have a good point there. Anyway, you probably might have noticed that a lot of Lucas's moves resemble Ness's. Pit: Yeah, so? Palutena: However, Lucas also has his differences. For example, instead of PK Flash, Lucas has a move called PK Freeze. Also, his PK Thunder goes through opponents. Pit: Other than that, they're pretty similar, right? Palutena: Yes, but there are other differences that I probably won't have time to list. Regardless, you should try to attack Lucas at middle range. Pit: Okay. I still feel bad for him. But enough remorse. Bring it on!
Man, it really sucks that the Palutena's Guidance doesn't cover DLC characters, it would've been cool watching Palutena talking about Mewtwo's creation, or about Ryu. Also, can't Ness absorb Lucas' PK Freeze?
Lucas's trophy reads that Mother 3 is still Japan-exclusive, but then again we're getting a proper release of Mother 1 so who knows? The only issue I can see is that unlike Mother 1, Mother 3 has never undergone an NoA script translation/localization, but if they're willing to put the time into it...
THEORY TIME Theory: Pit has long term memory loss Proof: Pit and Lucas were both introduced in the same game, yet pit doesn't remember Lucas Proof #2: Pit should know the strategies of any character in brawl (since they were in the same game) and should only need assistance for the new character, but pit seems to need help, and honestly doesn't know a couple non-DLC characters. But there is a slight flaw: Flaw: Pit had a couple moves changed, got a new stage, and had to get a new final smash due to palutinas addition to the game, so maybe pit was wiped clean and had a new start. Your mind has been blown.
Pit: Who is that Lucas: Remember me from Brawl Palutana: I have no data on this fighter Lucas: What data Viridi: Must be an intruder from another dimension Lucas: I am not a intruder I am from Brawl! Pit: Whatever the person the goal is to fight and win Lucas: Does any one now me any more, Ness got to no me Ness: Who are you again. Lucas: AAAAaaaaahhhhhhh!!!
All animations: Taunts: 1. Lucas slips on the floor, and gets back up. 2. Lucas suddenly holds a snake in his hand, which disappears into his pocket a few seconds later. 3. He uses his PSI to taunt. Victory Animations: 1. Lucas pulls a needle out of the ground, then goes into a fighting stance. 2. He uses the same PSI power he uses in his third taunt. 3. Lucas rubs a stick on the ground, as if he was trying to start a fire, but then notices the camera and looks at it. Palutena's Guidance: The default conversation for DLC characters; Pit asks who Lucas is, but even Palutena doesn't know who he is, leading Viridi to claim that Lucas is from another dimension. Pit then proceeds to battle Lucas, ending the conversation. No Contest: Lucas claps, with a surprised look on his face. Swimming: When Lucas swims, he puts his legs underwater, and his arms alternate between staying above the water and being underwater, when he's about to drown, he's afraid of it, and when he does drown, his arms are pointed upwards. Entrance: Lucas rides in on a magic table shaped like a Mr. Saturn. Idle Animations: 1. Lucas does some air drumming. 2. He taps his feet on the ground, as if his feet were dirty. Crowd Cheer: "Lucas! Lucas! Lucas! *cheers*" Dizzy: Lucas' head moves around in circles. Sleeping: Lucas falls asleep with his arms crossed, as if he was sitting at a tree. Star KO: All you need to know about this one is that he falls to death. Balancing: This one's similar to Wii Fit Trainer's, in that Lucas' arms are aligned perfectly together. What Villager can Pocket: PK Thunder (14% damage) and PK Fire (17% damage). What Ness can Absorb: PK Fire (5% heal), PK Thunder (4% heal) Home Run Bat Animation: A generic home run bat animation, with Lucas' iconic "Ha!" being his grunt. Screen KO: When Lucas gets Screen KO'd, it looks as if he was tied to invisible ropes. Kirby Hat: The Copy Ability for Lucas gives Kirby Lucas' hair in terms of appearance, with the ability itself giving Kirby the power to use PK Freeze. Special Flag Animation: All you need to know is that it's epic as fuck. Hammer Animation: Self-explanatory. Super-Spicy Curry: Also self-explanatory. Christmas Present: Also self-explanatory. As an example, the item that comes out of this one is a Boss Galaga. Tripping: Just about the same as Lucas' first taunt, except that he does a roundhouse kick (or whatever it is) to get back up. Growing/Shrinking animation: When he grows, he feels very powerful. When he shrinks... well, that too is self-explanatory. Final Smash: PK Starstorm. This is the same as it was in Brawl, where Lucas unleashes a powerful starstorm onto the stage, damaging opponents who get caught in it. Ending: This one has way too much detail to cover, so TL;DR one of the scenes involve Mr. Saturn. Reverse Entrance: Self-explanatory.
Brianna Wilson I used to play as Lucas a lot in Brawl as well as many other characters, but I pretty much stopped using him now. I just don't feel like using Lucas that much anymore and I like Ness more.
HOW THE F** COULD YOU NOT REMEMBER LUCAS FROM SUPER SMASH BROS. BRAWL - THE SUBSPACE EMISSARY?!! YOU WERE IN THE GAME, TOO!! You sicken me, Pit...... >:(
Lucas:Hey Pit! It's nice to see you again! Pit:Who is that? Lucas:It's me Lucas! Palutena:I have no data on this fighter. I can't believe it! Lucas:Uh, what data? Viridi:It must be a intruder from another dimension! Lucas:I'm not a intruder! I came from Brawl! Pit:Whoever it is, the goal remains the same:to fight and win! Lucas:Does Ness at least remember me? Ness:Who are you? Were you that kid from Super Smash Bros Brawl? Lucas:You know what? I'll just leave
I kinda feel bad for Lucas. He's an awesome character, but both Roy and Ryu are sooooooooooo much more interesting. Roy's redesign, especially how his attacks look, is amazing and Ryu's inputs change the game so much. Lucas on the other hand is just like "hey... I'm also here :)" Poor guy. I still love him tho
+Nurse Valentine Lucas is not better than Ness. I wish people would stop saying that Both of them are good. Neither of them are better than one another.
+Nurse Valentine yeah I apologize I just don't like it when people hate on the other character just because they main One from the same series. I can respect that you like Lucas play style more then ness. once again I apologize for overreacting
Lucas: "Hey, Pit! Nice to see you again!"
Pit: "Who is THAT?"
Lucas: "Thanks for remembering me, jerk..."
XD
***** Pit himself has stated that he wasn't in Melee and seems to be salty about it, so it would have been funny to see him hold a grudge against Mewtwo and Roy
Yep exactly!
Sammy Peterson But he was a trophy in SSBM
Yeah.... I guess that means Pit must not remember Wario, Snake, Sonic, or the rest of the newcomers in Brawl :-/
Lucas is absolutely adorable
Kurami Corrupt yes...yes he is
I just realized that the final frame on his victory movie (for clearing classic) has characters that somewhat represent the mother 3 cast. From the right, Boney, Hinawa, Flint, Claus, Lucas.
Damn, nice catch.
Ketamine Dankoo :3
Yeah it makes me cry for 6 hours after seeing it
Oh my god
Mookal H but kumatora was forgot
I almost cried with the victory animation
Lucas
Lucas (Claus skin)
Red dress Peach as Hinawa
Duck Hunt as Boney
8 bit shooter as Flint
It's cute to hear Kirby say PK Freeze
Dark Prelate Mohandar I love when Kirby say PK Free! Or PK Fat!
He looks like Donald Trump haha
Same with Ness’ PK freeze
Lucas: Oh hey Pit!! Nice too see you again
Pit: Who is that?
Lucas: Um, it's me, Lucas.
Palutena: I have no data on this fighter!!
Lucas: I've only been gone for one game.
Viridi: It must be an intruder from another dimention!!
Lucas: You know what? I'll just leave.
It's weird that Pit didn't even recognize Lucas from the previous game. They were both in brawl as newcomers.
Palutena's guidance will be the same for every DLC character. Remember,it takes a while for a character to be designed as well as making in-game details.
X'D
Ya misspelt dimension
LOL Paletuna is not in brawl thats hy she's got no data
All of his animations are so cute u_u
+Magicant Lucas in your picture looks like he's trying his very first warhead! a little too sour for you buddy? XD
Smol child taste sour item.
Piggyguy312 I T I S H O R R I F Y I N G
I dunno, he's still pretty cute when drowning. It's probably the expression that gets to me.
Ok I admit I'm fucked up
Oh wow, seen you before
the drowning animations are so heartbreaking ;-;
Also, Lucas' sleeping animation is so cute!! ;D
MGCade Times my heart exploded because of cuteness while watching this video: 9
The sleeping animation is by far one of the cutest things in this video.
All of Lucas' animations are cute tbh
Honorable mention: his victory animation with the stick
Arlie Daniel That's actually my favorite one. :D Everytime I see it I just simply have to smile, even if it was the other guy who won.
shinyUmbreon121 yes though! Sooooo cute!
No Ness's were hurt in the making of this video
Gosh everything about this sunflower child is so precious!!😻😻
When i see ness and lucas animations, i literally scream of CuteNESS.
+Chef Ness He Got Older After Brawl So Your Like 14 Now
Wait the victory animation of Lucas is the neddle? I cri everi time ;-;
It's been like that since Brawl...
Didn't he survive? :l
Peterson Byrd i miss brawl :(
CHUKIEMARC1 i dont know :/ i think not
Erick Franco He did survive. After/before the credits (don't remember) he and the others talk to you and it is mentioned that they're all fine.
Pit: Is that Ness without a hat?
Palutena: That's Lucas, if you remember, you've encountered him before.
Pit: Isn't he that Psychic kid?
Viridi: Yeah, watch out for his PK thunder, it can launch him forward if he hits it into himself.
Pit: I'll make sure that never happens!
Palutena: Good luck Pit.
Oh my god, look at his drowning animation. So brutal.
(George Lopez's voice)I know huh
Great Great It is horrifying, especially coming from a child.
How the hell didnt Pit know, who Lucas is?
He knew him in Brawl
Ikr that just weird
Lucas:Hi pit :D
Pit:WHO IS THAT?
Lucas: ;-;
I know right. That is very depressing...
Yeah it makes no sense.
Zergling1986 I like to think the Pit on Brawl is actually a different Pit from another universe, and that's why he doesn't remember
Did Ness used the choking force on Lucas? 3:18
1:18 ness was like : what da hell is that sound
Lucas' first idle animation be like "fuck you air"
2:15
Kirby: PK fre-
Lucas: PK freeze
Kirby:(hits Lucas) let me finish
Kirby PK freeze
X'D
Pit: I kinda feel bad for Lucas.
Palutena: Really? How come?
Pit: Well, he was separated from his brother, his mom was terminated...long story short, his life's been a tragedy.
Palutena: You have a good point there. Anyway, you probably might have noticed that a lot of Lucas's moves resemble Ness's.
Pit: Yeah, so?
Palutena: However, Lucas also has his differences. For example, instead of PK Flash, Lucas has a move called PK Freeze. Also, his PK Thunder goes through opponents.
Pit: Other than that, they're pretty similar, right?
Palutena: Yes, but there are other differences that I probably won't have time to list. Regardless, you should try to attack Lucas at middle range.
Pit: Okay. I still feel bad for him. But enough remorse. Bring it on!
Liam Funnyman Fixed.
I think that it's should be. Instead the same thing that they said to Mewtwo.
CanUanimatethat? 367 Glad you like it.
Would've been cooler if Kumatora/Flint/Duster joined in.
Sebhan02 I didn't think of that.
Man, it really sucks that the Palutena's Guidance doesn't cover DLC characters, it would've been cool watching Palutena talking about Mewtwo's creation, or about Ryu.
Also, can't Ness absorb Lucas' PK Freeze?
Probably not, since it doesn’t have a hitbox until it explodes. Similar to Din’s fire.
He can
1:41 Dat Voice Crack.
0:38 for God sake pit! that's Lucas! don't you remember since super smash bros brawl?!
Apparently, Pit can't remember people if they don't start in the game.
Tapu Lele get in my pokeball
//squeals//
Ahh hhes so adorable
I really hope Mother 3 gets released in America
Lucas's trophy reads that Mother 3 is still Japan-exclusive, but then again we're getting a proper release of Mother 1 so who knows? The only issue I can see is that unlike Mother 1, Mother 3 has never undergone an NoA script translation/localization, but if they're willing to put the time into it...
Theres still a chance though so
I'll just wait until it happens
【gWg】 Aya★ monther 3 is earthbound 2 on gameboy advence
Ness and lucas are the coolest in my opinion. Dont see them as adorable tbh.
Chef Ness yea because they have supernatural abilities known as PSI
THEORY TIME
Theory: Pit has long term memory loss
Proof: Pit and Lucas were both introduced in the same game, yet pit doesn't remember Lucas
Proof #2: Pit should know the strategies of any character in brawl (since they were in the same game) and should only need assistance for the new character, but pit seems to need help, and honestly doesn't know a couple non-DLC characters.
But there is a slight flaw:
Flaw: Pit had a couple moves changed, got a new stage, and had to get a new final smash due to palutinas addition to the game, so maybe pit was wiped clean and had a new start.
Your mind has been blown.
Lucas has a perfect crowd cheer.
Pit: Who is that
Lucas: Remember me from Brawl
Palutana: I have no data on this fighter
Lucas: What data
Viridi: Must be an intruder from another dimension
Lucas: I am not a intruder I am from Brawl!
Pit: Whatever the person the goal is to fight and win
Lucas: Does any one now me any more, Ness got to no me
Ness: Who are you again.
Lucas: AAAAaaaaahhhhhhh!!!
If Viridi became DLC, the Palutena Guidance would be weird.
He's so adorable! I just want to hug him! ( ˘ ³˘)♥
Pls dont touch lookis they are endangered fanart has killed off every last one ;( i cri
+Chef Ness Wait, you've seen those pervy pieces of fan art?!
Lucas is donald trumps first evolution
Lucas is like the underdog that wants to prove himself.
1:42 Lucas says: waoaoaoaooow!!!
2:42
*Lucas' Body Was Engulfed In Flames!*
1:24 Lucas's Dizzy animation is the same as Ness's Dizzy animation.
Lucas's voice is soo adorable...🥺💕💕
Here's an idea.
Every character being hit by Ryu's Focus Attack.
TheHumbleFellow done
WHY.
IS.
LUCAS.
SO.
FREAKING ADORABLE
Lucas, the boy from No where......who is the boy that's Now here. See what I did there?
2:15 The way Kirby looks and says PK FREEZE! He's 50% handsome and 50% cute!
1:05 how my sister and I used to fight as kids
I like Lucas's idle animation where he looks like he's beating drums. It's funny.
All animations:
Taunts: 1. Lucas slips on the floor, and gets back up. 2. Lucas suddenly holds a snake in his hand, which disappears into his pocket a few seconds later. 3. He uses his PSI to taunt.
Victory Animations: 1. Lucas pulls a needle out of the ground, then goes into a fighting stance. 2. He uses the same PSI power he uses in his third taunt. 3. Lucas rubs a stick on the ground, as if he was trying to start a fire, but then notices the camera and looks at it.
Palutena's Guidance: The default conversation for DLC characters; Pit asks who Lucas is, but even Palutena doesn't know who he is, leading Viridi to claim that Lucas is from another dimension. Pit then proceeds to battle Lucas, ending the conversation.
No Contest: Lucas claps, with a surprised look on his face.
Swimming: When Lucas swims, he puts his legs underwater, and his arms alternate between staying above the water and being underwater, when he's about to drown, he's afraid of it, and when he does drown, his arms are pointed upwards.
Entrance: Lucas rides in on a magic table shaped like a Mr. Saturn.
Idle Animations: 1. Lucas does some air drumming. 2. He taps his feet on the ground, as if his feet were dirty.
Crowd Cheer: "Lucas! Lucas! Lucas! *cheers*"
Dizzy: Lucas' head moves around in circles.
Sleeping: Lucas falls asleep with his arms crossed, as if he was sitting at a tree.
Star KO: All you need to know about this one is that he falls to death.
Balancing: This one's similar to Wii Fit Trainer's, in that Lucas' arms are aligned perfectly together.
What Villager can Pocket: PK Thunder (14% damage) and PK Fire (17% damage).
What Ness can Absorb: PK Fire (5% heal), PK Thunder (4% heal)
Home Run Bat Animation: A generic home run bat animation, with Lucas' iconic "Ha!" being his grunt.
Screen KO: When Lucas gets Screen KO'd, it looks as if he was tied to invisible ropes.
Kirby Hat: The Copy Ability for Lucas gives Kirby Lucas' hair in terms of appearance, with the ability itself giving Kirby the power to use PK Freeze.
Special Flag Animation: All you need to know is that it's epic as fuck.
Hammer Animation: Self-explanatory.
Super-Spicy Curry: Also self-explanatory.
Christmas Present: Also self-explanatory. As an example, the item that comes out of this one is a Boss Galaga.
Tripping: Just about the same as Lucas' first taunt, except that he does a roundhouse kick (or whatever it is) to get back up.
Growing/Shrinking animation: When he grows, he feels very powerful. When he shrinks... well, that too is self-explanatory.
Final Smash: PK Starstorm. This is the same as it was in Brawl, where Lucas unleashes a powerful starstorm onto the stage, damaging opponents who get caught in it.
Ending: This one has way too much detail to cover, so TL;DR one of the scenes involve Mr. Saturn.
Reverse Entrance: Self-explanatory.
0:21 Who else wonders what Lucas does with that stick?
Scratch the ground
MrPowerfulJeans the Jean Lord But for what purpose?
poking a dead body
Lucas is Villager confirm
DefectiveBubblebuddy He's scratching the remaining ashes of his opponents.
3:17 Was Ness being... Was Lucas being... Did they just reference... WAT
I don't know
I love Lucas's idle animations.
Gosh Lucas is such my favorite character in Smash!
Oh my gosh the victory ending! They got the family there ;0;
what family i only see flint and boney
His mom is the peach and the Lucas recolor is his brother claus
0:26 When you get caught burying a body
Lucas's Star Ko, Drowning, and tripping were sad
Lucas's Sleeping, Victory Adimations, were cute and cool
Also Kirby saying PK Freeze was too cute
0:24
Lucas: *Playing with the stick* hUH?-
1:05 i love this one
I like Lucas's little punch after the social date animation.
can you take a look at 0:25? ness's reaction really suits this scene.
W8.... I can't believe it... Ness's PK Flash can still be absorbed but not Lucas's PK Freeze??
It can be absorbed
***** It happens.... but you're pretty good with Ness, aren't you? And so is AquaRyu....
Brianna Wilson I was a Ness player for 5 years, haha XD
AquaRyu So is my brother. I'm also good with him. Have you ever used Lucas.
Brianna Wilson I used to play as Lucas a lot in Brawl as well as many other characters, but I pretty much stopped using him now. I just don't feel like using Lucas that much anymore and I like Ness more.
I like how Pit doesn't even know who Lucas is even though they were in brawl together
0:28
Lucas: BITCH YOU'VE SEEN ME BEFORE!
I noticed when he holds a pokeball, he has Ness's Idle Animation
Lucas special flag is like "I have the power!"
Nintendo is getting lazy with palutena's guidance they are using the same guidance that used with mewtwo.
Also because lucas was in brawl to begin with. Love your name too;)
The Nerdy Pikachu
Thanks :D
For Mewtwo,Roy and Ryu makes sence Pit dont know about them. But Lucas? Come on! He knew him in brawl.
saifuddin jamil Even so Roy and Mewtwo were in Melee so Palutena should have *some* data for them...
sonic is 2 cool It will be the same for all DLC fighters.
0:30 so Mei Ling knows about Lucas yet Palutena doesn't. wow.
Logan Medina and yes, I know why that happens
Rude
Lucas's clapping animation though....
Heeeaaaaaaaaagggaaaaaaaaa
Am I the only one who thought Lucas' Star KO sounds like Larry?
no
0:25 Lucas: Wh-what? I-I wasn't fapping... why, uh, would you think that *smiles uncomfortably*?
When I played Brawl, I thought he did that, too...
...
Lucas' voice sounds funny when he's dizzy.
He ate more mushrooms. Again
Lucas is Superman in his ending...Cool.
HOW THE F** COULD YOU NOT REMEMBER LUCAS FROM SUPER SMASH BROS. BRAWL - THE SUBSPACE EMISSARY?!! YOU WERE IN THE GAME, TOO!! You sicken me, Pit...... >:(
1:06 **Fighting demons intensifies**
Lucas's clapping face...looks like he's gonna start drooling. R U OK there buddy?
When you run off of a ledge, the character goes into a tumbling animation. Could you make a montage of that?
2:27 Lucas: IVE GOT THAT POWER. XD
Lucas has some of the same things as Ness!
I'm pretty sure ness can absorb the blast from PK Freeze
I love Lucas’s idle animation
3:19 Lucas's hardcore face XD
[adorable sleeping noises]
Wow Nintendo was so lazy and gave all dlc fighters the same message for Palutena's Guidance conversation
Salty Television It would cost more time to do that. Since the fans are desperate so much for new characters, they decided to drop it
Ness have the lucas especial's for change moves
1:42 DAT SCREAM °_°
Lucas such a awesome character.
His second Victory pose is like he is saying to Ness, "Do you see that, huh?, It says I'm the number 1" and Ness looks amazed :D
Pit, you know who Lucas is. you two teamed up with the others in the Subspace Emissary.
Lucas:Hey Pit! It's nice to see you again!
Pit:Who is that?
Lucas:It's me Lucas!
Palutena:I have no data on this fighter. I can't believe it!
Lucas:Uh, what data?
Viridi:It must be a intruder from another dimension!
Lucas:I'm not a intruder! I came from Brawl!
Pit:Whoever it is, the goal remains the same:to fight and win!
Lucas:Does Ness at least remember me?
Ness:Who are you? Were you that kid from Super Smash Bros Brawl?
Lucas:You know what? I'll just leave
I kinda feel bad for Lucas. He's an awesome character, but both Roy and Ryu are sooooooooooo much more interesting. Roy's redesign, especially how his attacks look, is amazing and Ryu's inputs change the game so much. Lucas on the other hand is just like "hey... I'm also here :)"
Poor guy. I still love him tho
Lucas is so awesome, that he doesnt need to change design or moves. Unlike Roy...AND NESS AND LUCAS ARE AMAZING AND ADORABLE!!!!
+MoonWolfX2 same here
+Nurse Valentine Lucas is not better than Ness. I wish people would stop saying that Both of them are good. Neither of them are better than one another.
Ness & Lucas PK
didn't you read the "at least for me" at the end?
+Nurse Valentine yeah I apologize I just don't like it when people hate on the other character just because they main One from the same series.
I can respect that you like Lucas play style more then ness. once again I apologize for overreacting
Pit, how can you not know Lucas? He was also in brawl
1:43 Voice crack
(growl of frustration) I hope Nintendo makes Palutena's Guidance dialogue for all the DLC fighters someday. -__-
Apparently his PK Fire ability also allows him to breathe fire
Btw
Ness can absorb Lucas's PK Freeze :b
1:15 though 1:19 LUCAS.......LUCAS........LUCAS love that cheer
3:19 I BELIEVE I CAN FLY
That star KO scream tho
Red dress Zelda makes more sense as Hinawa
What about Ness absorbing his PK Freeze? Lucas can also absorb Ness’s PK flash. LOL XD
Pit: Who is THAT?!
Lucas: We we’re in Brawl together.
Oh Lucas I missed you so much! TwT
Updated version of "Characters who can go under final destination"?
0:26 I'm digging a hole
why does Lucas sound like a girl in his star ko?
1:42 that scream tho 😂😂😂😂
Am I the only one who thinks his little voice crack at 1:53 is the cutest thing ever?