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@@kiddesigns7581you are paying for the convenience of mobile therapy. Just like how a pack of toilet paper cost more at a gas station than the same size at Walmart, you are paying for convenience
If you don't like the sponsor, don't use the product. You don't know what opportunities are presented to any given content creator and it is not your job to tell content creators to turn down funding that may impact their livelihood. Use the product or don't, maybe focus on the quality of the content and stay in your lane when it comes to who happens to be funding the content. Anything that requires advertisement indicates a product that cannot be successful on its own merits: think of all the online colleges whose degrees are not taken seriously that are advertised on television versus Ivy League universities who would never need commercials because the quality of education that speaks for itself is what laid the foundation for their reputation. Maybe understand the nature of advertisements and the relationship to the legitimacy of the products being advertised before criticizing a sponsorship. Learn to separate the spiel he is obligated to regurgitate in exchange for funding from a genuine and heartfelt endorsement.
One little mistake: Penny Dreadfuls weren't like true crime podcasts. They were more akin to horror comics. Yeah, some of them were based on actual crimes that were going on at the time but even those were heavily embellished and details tweaked.
So more likey Creepypastas than True Crime Podcasts. Some of them may have been "inspired by actual events" (like most horror movies that claim the same, when the real event was, "Man walks into dark basement, and has a bad feeling." There's "Based on a True Story" and "Inspired by Actual events" and "Ripped from the headlines" ... but 90 of the time it just includes someone who actually lived... Like Sarchie in "Deliver Us From Evil" Real guy, is a police officer, claims to have done battle with demons, but the movie was NOTHING like the book. (and even the truth of much of that is dubious.)
I thought this was an older video since I know Jon covered Sweeney Todd already and he already mentioned about how his schedule is gonna change for good reason, I just finished the Hook episode, but it says “posted 25 minutes ago” so LET’S GO!
3:35 please please please do your amazing research on better help. They are nothing more than a scam site and do not deserve to be talked about. Please don't ever be sponsored by them
WOW! One never knows! Soooo many short-con operators are out there now. I never follow-up on ads anymore without looking up their company’s name first myself! Good to know, though. 🍁🪷🌷🍁
I know someone in the mental health field and they were surprised to find their information listed on the site when they hadn't signed up/approved of it. Took quite a while to find the proper contact info to get it removed. If they did that to one person, they likely did it to others.
I am definitely going to do my research, I was really thinking about starting Betterhelp. It's going to be a real shame if it really is a scam, that really seemed like a comforting way to go about therapy, but seems too good to be true when you really consider the numbers of patients to therapists texting and calling om demand (how I assume it was supposed to work) Thank you for the heads up.
I tried it a few years ago and now a few month back I got an email saying that my information were sold by better help. There was a lawsuit (not investigated by me (or even involved me by my knowledge before I got the email)) and you know what ? I got 10$ on a deleted PayPal account. Wow. So yeah. Do not let sponsorship get to you.
I think the best way I see the stage and film versions are depending on how you want to view the story - bombastic and dramatic, or gritty and subdued. I love the film version don’t get me wrong, and I do credit Sondheim for being a huge part of the film and knowing he was adapting the stage into a film. But I think that’s the appeal of Sweeney Todd - you can see multiple variations of the story and they all have merit
Funny you used the clip of HBC complaining about the lack of breathing. There's a story where the late Dame Angela Lansbury (who originated the role of Mrs. Lovett on Broadway and won a Tony for it) confronted Sondheim about "By the Sea" during rehearsals, asking him "How am I supposed to breathe?" He told her "You don't." This makes sense because (as written) Mrs. Lovett is a chatty, gossipy sort of woman who doesn't let others get a word in edgewise.
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n I've been singing and doing musical theater since I was a preteen. And even I have trouble with Mrs. Lovett. That being said, I would love to play her someday.
I saw the originals. This a compilation that was needed! Thanks Jon. Very glad you kept your outro. My favorite is still the original penny dreadful without the expansion.
I love your videos! I liked the depiction of Sweeney Todd in Terry Pratchett's book Dodger. In it Sweeney is killing because of PTSD. He was a military surgeon/barber and is having flashbacks to all the people he failed to save. He sits their throat to put them out of their misery. He is really a sad figure in the book
Hard to decide between the book and the musical endings. I'm a sucker for stories that show you how destructive seeking revenge can be but I also love an unapologetic, evil villain who gets his just desserts. As someone who hadn't seen your original videos about Sweeney Todd, I appreciate the compilation and I agree that more people need to know about the actual messed up history that went on back then.
I can't help but notice Jon's shirts throughout the episode, I think they deserve their own video! It'll be called " Jons Shirt Video: Which one looks spookier!!"
Beware the next barber chair you sit in... for Sweeney Todd's spirit might still be lurking, razor in hand, waiting for his next victim. After all, some legends say his hunger for vengeance never died.
🎶These are my friends. See how they glisten. See this one shine.🎶 "At last, my arm is complete again!" Still gives me chills. I love it.❤😁🎃 P.S Hi Gunther. Sweet little puppy.❤🐶17:01
I watch it every Halloween 🎃 🥰 such a good movie but crazy. I love watching your videos it always educates me on something I either didn’t know or that I was already curious about looking into but never got around to. ☺️ Thank you for making videos!
Me too!! This year I managed to convince enough people to vote for it in a discord server that we’ll be watching it as our group Halloween movie! I’m excited to share it with others
@Minyassa it was a red fox which is why I absolutely couldn't resist lollol it was honestly one of my most magical memories 😅😅 this thing found and adopted me.... kind of a cool experience to tote around
I'm so sporadic with my viewing, I didn't know you had 3 separate videos, so I was very glad to watch this compilation with fresh eyes! Thank you for editing them together! 😊
Ever since I saw the stage play with George Hearn and Angela Lansbury on DVD in a fit of curiosity from my local library, I found I enjoyed watching it once in a while and that part where Toby ends Todd’s life still shocking a little.
Its always a good Day searching for a specific Video To find out That Jon Solo is back at it again with these perfect videos, and not only that but 2 days after it posted I found it whats the chances🔥🔥
Best Jon Solo I can recall seeing! At least in many months. GREAT research & great storytelling, as usual. I’m also a Broadway afficio, since kindergarten! Sweeney Todd was one of Sondheim’s best works-ever. The stage production was Excellent, with Len Cariou & Angela Lansbury! The Greek Chorus added what the film lacked-connection to a specific audience. Interestingly, there was no mention of Sawney Beane, a character of British lore/18th century reality, too. He wasn’t a barber at all, though. He was said to have been the “inspiration” for Sweeney Todd, too. But his story consisted of even more barbaric acts, to wit: Beane was described as the progenitor of a family who lived in caves in a heavily-forested area near London. The family all specialized in highway robberies of stagecoaches passing on the main roads, particularly after nightfall. Instead of being content to rob & flee, however, the family was said to have forced the passengers to disembark, robbed them of all possessions, then killed them. Still worse, they carried the bodies off and back to their caves, where they made meals of them. I’m not sure of what became of their drivers and horses, & carriages, but the stories of disappearances eventually led the law to conduct searches, the first of which were unsuccessful. However, one of the children, oddly-attired in evidently stolen clothing was eventually spotted and then followed, leading the posse of investigators to the chain of caves. It was there discovered by the discarded heaps of bones and cooking utensils what had ultimately become of the missing persons. It was also discovered that Sawney Beane, in “factoid,” had several dozen children living with him and their various mothers, all related to him by some nefarious chain of incestuous relations. They were all rounded-up, taken to The Old Bailey and tried, found guilty, & sentenced to death, down to the youngest toddlers and infants-all deemed too depraved, too incapacitated, too unfit for society to live, given their acclimations. It was said to have been one of the saddest and most tragic mass executions ever witnessed. IF the story is true. It seems to have disappeared from the web. But when the musical play “Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street,” premiered & became a big hit, it was easy to find, along with references to “The String of Pearls,” & other “penny dreadfuls.” 👻🎃💀🗝☠️🎃
jon im pretty sure your original series of sweeney todd videos is the reason im obsessed with this story now id never been interested in the burton film before but i decided to listen to the original cast album for a laugh and now im hearing the music that nobody hears
Jon with Gunther reminds me of The Why Files with that guy and hecklefish. The only differences being Gunther doesn't talk and Jon does legends whereas the Why Files guy does conspiracies
Is there going to be a messed-up origins on Beetlejuice? Even though I haven't seen the first one, I watched the new movie with my dad in the theatre near us and I'm now interested. Is Beetlejuice a character made by Tim Burton? Even so, what are his inspirations for the character? Also, I'm still looking forward to the messed-up origins of the Boogeyman. You haven't forgotten, have you?
I think I loved the 36 page version of the novel as well as the musical both Broadway and film. Honestly I was hoping that you'd do a scary story video as promised last week and my request was the baby sitter and the man upstairs. Nevertheless regardless of what you said, it's unpredictable that you'd recap the sweeny Todd lore and I actually enjoyed it
I hadn't seen the other 3 so found this really awesome in depth episode. The mention of people believing corpses could heal them definitely was established already. I remember reading a translation of Bede's Ecclesiastical history of the Anglo Saxon people, and like tons of it is him explaining how dead saints body parts will heal people.
Until the end of this, I didn't realize that it was a complication. Thank you. It is becoming very annoying that the channels I like to watch are nothing but those.
hi french speaker here, I did some research and it does seems like there's a parisien legend about a barber and a pie maker (both are men in this legend tho) and it does talk about the fact that they were caught because of a dog but i haven't read anything about a statue and looked at the road in question (now chanoinesse it used to be called marmoussets) also in what i read the house were burned and not the criminals. I only read quickly and not that much in detail but can make more researsh if needed. have a good day :)
I really enjoyed this entire video! I like the movie best, but that may be because hearing a synopsis is no substitute for the impact of actually watching or reading a work, and the movie is the one I've seen. So I'm going to read The String of Pearls on Project Gutenberg, and then see if I can find a recording of the musical somewhere. I don't think it's based on a true story but rather is probably an amalgam of various different combined serial killer stories and anecdotes put together by the original author. This has been fascinating stuff, thank you! Excellent rabbit hole.
Johnny Depp can sing- he's in a band when not working on screen projects. I'd argue that for the medium, his vocals were excellent for the film adaptation. They were more subtle and reflected the aloof and almost dual nature of the character. Just my opinion, of course.
Another channel I watch, the Grimmlife Collective went to London recently and did a then and now shots of Fleet Street. The addresses are real, (even if the story is fictional). Very interesting.
I wonder what you're going to do with all these videos. I've been creating several storylines of my own. You and I are of Scorpio, so it's pretty cool how we are connected in these lores. Thanks and you're welcome, Jon Solo.
Sorry, I just have to comment on the merch that appeared below this video for me. I saw a nice blue shirt on you, with a calming nice background and a ghostly ships helm on the shirt. It was small enough I couldn't make out the rest of it. I was like "ooooo, this looks pretty and cool, I wonder what it is. /click/ OH GAWD! oh..mygod...uuuummm.....uuhhhh..aaaaaag /shudders/ no! Just no...not for me." Sufficiently creeped me out. Awesome art, and props to the artist for extreme creepy. I couldn't live with that in my wardrobe. X3 Edit: added slashes, because apparently asterisks are for formatting. >.=.
I really liked the 'true crime...or is it' chapter. I felt it was a good illustration of how to evaluate sources of information. I am always on the look out for videos to help teach my kid how to evaluate the information they hear and critical thinking skills. It was a fun lesson.
I thought they did pretty great with the singing given their circumstances. Especially the song Misses Lovett sang when she was talking about settling down with Sweeney on the beach. I felt like that song was made for Carter Bonnum
You missed an opportunity to mention a similar serial killer who did exist. Great Depression era Germany there was a guy who hosted travelers for free. He killed them and sold the meat to a town desperate for food, especially fresh meat. Obsolete Oddity has a great video about it.
tbh singing in bands doesn't equate to singing in Musical Theatre (most theatre folks are classically trained in voice and usually take classes in vocal control). Stephen Sondheim's pieces are super technical and have hard rhythms/syncopation to follow, so someone with Johnny's type of vocal experience would really struggle with Sondheim's works.
He was actually a guitarist, but his album with Jeff Beck showed a tremendous amount of growth as a singer. He's not classically trained, and Sondheims material isnt easy, but I honestly think that he made it work for the most part. His rendition of "My Friends" is probably the best rendition I've heard of the song, and his Epiphany is also quite good. But then you have JCB who has such a natural talent as a vocalist, and Sacha Baron-Cohen who is classically trained. The contrast is insane.
I think the story is basically playing on the fact that a basic part of male hygiene is to take a blade, the sharper the better, to your neck. Basically Sweeny Todd is the physical manifestation of letting intrusive thoughts win.
I never watched the movie because it’s a musical. I made the joke at work that I don’t watch them because people don’t just start signing and dancing in my experience. Now my coworkers duplicate that south park episode
45:09 That bit with the dog sounds like the Dog and Tucker Box. There’s an actual statue in NSW Australia of a dog sitting on a tucker box (lunch box) waiting for his owner. I can’t remember if it was a story or a real event but there was a man who had a dog. He would go to work and his dog would sit on the tucker box all day waiting for him. One day the man died at work and no one went to get the dog. It died sitting on the tucker box waiting for his master.
Burton's Sweeney Todd would have worked better as a straight-up slasher horror without the silly songs. It could still be macabre and melodramatic like the original String of Pearls or the 1936 film with Tod Slaughter
Nice job, and I suppose it only makes sense that, with this much material to wade through, you judiciously omitted mention of the several other recent films (i.e. within the last 30 years) made on the subject, or the old Todd Slaughter show. Folks do seem to love the tale, and I must admit it's my favorite Sondheim show.
There was another version of Sweeney Todd from 1936 which was a British Drama. It was directed by George King and starred Tod Slaughter 😉😂 I am not joking that is the guy's name
Decades ago PBS showed a version of the Sweeney Todd story where, IIRC, the ending was that Sweeney was hallucinating his killings, that they never really occurred.
You didn't pull me away from my own voice blabbing around in my head stuck in my thoughts at first until you mentioned messed up true origins! I'm like really, that's what grabbed my attention?! 🤦🏼♀️😂 So here we go! Thanks for getting me out of my own head! It's all good seriously!
There is a case in Hannover, Germany. A guy who offered a place to sleep to young boys looking for work, raped and killed them. He used to pick them at the central station. It is said that she made sausages with the bodies. Horrible!
It's amazing how many people can't wrap their heads around the idea that a work of fiction was just completely made up. Why assume it's based on a real killer?
Holy Cow !! This story is more complicated than what excepted 😮 I've heard of the movie and play, and only glanced at film trailers. This is the first time I've heard the full story !!
It's interesting that there are some accounts of a fourteenth century French barber who was the real life inspiration of Sweeney Todd. Fourteenth century France was beset by severe famines, plague (the population that worked in agriculture was dying off), and war (local and foreign armies were pillaging local foodstuffs to feed their troops) causing critical food shortages that caused some people to resort to cannibalism.
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Don't they sell user data?
@@arthurmartin4616 Greedy content creators don't care, they just want lots of free money.
To me it adds to the story that they are not the best singers but actors, but maby that´s just me.
How can you still partner with this bs?
Jon please dump better health as a sponcer - they are a scam as most of their "therapist" are not licenced and dont follow hipa standards - it also has been reported that they sale user data. Please do some research on them. I love all your content and have no issue with any of your other sponcers but this one is really not a good sponcer.
I agree with this comment many ads have tried to advertise the app as accessible and cheap however it is 10x more expensive than regular therapy
@@kiddesigns7581you are paying for the convenience of mobile therapy. Just like how a pack of toilet paper cost more at a gas station than the same size at Walmart, you are paying for convenience
But I agree with the original comment
Yea they have infected RUclips.... I can't think of very many creators that don't have them and I don't think many of them are aware of who they are.
If you don't like the sponsor, don't use the product.
You don't know what opportunities are presented to any given content creator and it is not your job to tell content creators to turn down funding that may impact their livelihood. Use the product or don't, maybe focus on the quality of the content and stay in your lane when it comes to who happens to be funding the content. Anything that requires advertisement indicates a product that cannot be successful on its own merits: think of all the online colleges whose degrees are not taken seriously that are advertised on television versus Ivy League universities who would never need commercials because the quality of education that speaks for itself is what laid the foundation for their reputation. Maybe understand the nature of advertisements and the relationship to the legitimacy of the products being advertised before criticizing a sponsorship. Learn to separate the spiel he is obligated to regurgitate in exchange for funding from a genuine and heartfelt endorsement.
One little mistake: Penny Dreadfuls weren't like true crime podcasts. They were more akin to horror comics. Yeah, some of them were based on actual crimes that were going on at the time but even those were heavily embellished and details tweaked.
They weren't exactly the most accurate accounts of the actual crimes!
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n that's what I mean.
So more likey Creepypastas than True Crime Podcasts. Some of them may have been "inspired by actual events" (like most horror movies that claim the same, when the real event was, "Man walks into dark basement, and has a bad feeling."
There's "Based on a True Story" and "Inspired by Actual events" and "Ripped from the headlines" ... but 90 of the time it just includes someone who actually lived... Like Sarchie in "Deliver Us From Evil" Real guy, is a police officer, claims to have done battle with demons, but the movie was NOTHING like the book. (and even the truth of much of that is dubious.)
@@numenlad7903 yep, Creepypastas/NoSleep would be a good way to describe them.
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n that’s what I mean.
Glad to see your still uploading videos and caring for your future kid
Bros not gonna read his kid stories, he's just gonna hit play on his channel😂😂
@@Biblecmpvictm good one 🤣
She's here!! ❤
He has a still that uploads videos? WOW
@debbylou5729 the fuck did you just say🤣🤣
"Try The Priest" is my favorite song in the musical. I really get a kick out of the commentary humor of the word play!
How is Locksmith?
How about Rear Admiral?
Too salty, I prefer General
With or without his privates? With, is extra!
The politician so oily... you never know if it's going to run
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@ it’s served with a doily 😂 have one? Put it on a bun! Wellyou never know when it’s going to ru😂😂😂
I thought this was an older video since I know Jon covered Sweeney Todd already and he already mentioned about how his schedule is gonna change for good reason, I just finished the Hook episode, but it says “posted 25 minutes ago” so LET’S GO!
i think it's a compilation
@@charlessaints it is but it’s better than nothing and some new info sprinkled in there which I don’t mind :)
3:35 please please please do your amazing research on better help. They are nothing more than a scam site and do not deserve to be talked about. Please don't ever be sponsored by them
WOW! One never knows! Soooo many short-con operators are out there now. I never follow-up on ads anymore without looking up their company’s name first myself! Good to know, though. 🍁🪷🌷🍁
I'm glad someone else knows about the better help scam.
I know someone in the mental health field and they were surprised to find their information listed on the site when they hadn't signed up/approved of it. Took quite a while to find the proper contact info to get it removed. If they did that to one person, they likely did it to others.
I am definitely going to do my research, I was really thinking about starting Betterhelp. It's going to be a real shame if it really is a scam, that really seemed like a comforting way to go about therapy, but seems too good to be true when you really consider the numbers of patients to therapists texting and calling om demand (how I assume it was supposed to work)
Thank you for the heads up.
I tried it a few years ago and now a few month back I got an email saying that my information were sold by better help. There was a lawsuit (not investigated by me (or even involved me by my knowledge before I got the email)) and you know what ? I got 10$ on a deleted PayPal account. Wow. So yeah. Do not let sponsorship get to you.
I love the look that Gunther gives Jon! Like Gunther was thinking, who said that you could kiss me on camera? Didn't we talk about this before? 😂🤣
I think the best way I see the stage and film versions are depending on how you want to view the story - bombastic and dramatic, or gritty and subdued. I love the film version don’t get me wrong, and I do credit Sondheim for being a huge part of the film and knowing he was adapting the stage into a film.
But I think that’s the appeal of Sweeney Todd - you can see multiple variations of the story and they all have merit
Funny you used the clip of HBC complaining about the lack of breathing.
There's a story where the late Dame Angela Lansbury (who originated the role of Mrs. Lovett on Broadway and won a Tony for it) confronted Sondheim about "By the Sea" during rehearsals, asking him "How am I supposed to breathe?"
He told her "You don't."
This makes sense because (as written) Mrs. Lovett is a chatty, gossipy sort of woman who doesn't let others get a word in edgewise.
I guess finding it difficult to play Mrs. Lovett is universal!
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n I've been singing and doing musical theater since I was a preteen. And even I have trouble with Mrs. Lovett.
That being said, I would love to play her someday.
@@janeyrevanescence12 Do you know what range Mrs. Lovett is in?
@@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n IIRC, she's alto-mezzo
I saw the originals. This a compilation that was needed! Thanks Jon. Very glad you kept your outro. My favorite is still the original penny dreadful without the expansion.
I love your videos! I liked the depiction of Sweeney Todd in Terry Pratchett's book Dodger. In it Sweeney is killing because of PTSD. He was a military surgeon/barber and is having flashbacks to all the people he failed to save. He sits their throat to put them out of their misery. He is really a sad figure in the book
"And he screamed to the crowd; "The Pies are Soylent Green!"
Ha! That's what I was going to say. But I looked at the comments to see if someone else beat me to that reference!
@@mommatanya1 My apologies. Sorry. If it helps, the comment only got 3 likes. I think you dodged the bullet this time around.
Hard to decide between the book and the musical endings.
I'm a sucker for stories that show you how destructive seeking revenge can be but I also love an unapologetic, evil villain who gets his just desserts.
As someone who hadn't seen your original videos about Sweeney Todd, I appreciate the compilation and I agree that more people need to know about the actual messed up history that went on back then.
I can't help but notice Jon's shirts throughout the episode, I think they deserve their own video! It'll be called " Jons Shirt Video: Which one looks spookier!!"
Damn it John that opening joke just pulled me right in. 10/10
Beware the next barber chair you sit in... for Sweeney Todd's spirit might still be lurking, razor in hand, waiting for his next victim. After all, some legends say his hunger for vengeance never died.
Angela Lansbury is an awesome "Mrs. Lovett"!!!!!
Please drop better help. They are an absolute scam at best. It really really makes your channel look bad when we all know you are an awesome creator!
Most RUclips sponsors are scams. Best to just ignore all the sponsors and ads in the first place.
Facts bro
🎶These are my friends. See how they glisten. See this one shine.🎶 "At last, my arm is complete again!" Still gives me chills. I love it.❤😁🎃 P.S Hi Gunther. Sweet little puppy.❤🐶17:01
Damn, boy, this must have been a TON of work. Nicely done!
Gunther is here for his adoring fans ❤
I liked his segment best of all! Sweet fella, & he genuinely seemed “concerned.” 🐾🐾
Who the heck is Gunther
AWWWEEE nvm Gunther is the doggie!!!!! AWWWEEE so cute!!!!!
Dude he has my dog locked in an oven.
I live on a street called Sweeney street in western western xo cheers and thankyou so much Jon Solo your the best English teacher and story teller :)
When did the dog waiting for his owner become part of the legend. It immediately made me think of Hachiko
I watch it every Halloween 🎃 🥰 such a good movie but crazy. I love watching your videos it always educates me on something I either didn’t know or that I was already curious about looking into but never got around to. ☺️ Thank you for making videos!
that's an awesome tradition! and hey thank YOU for watching :)
@@JonSolo thank you and your welcome ☺️
Me too!! This year I managed to convince enough people to vote for it in a discord server that we’ll be watching it as our group Halloween movie! I’m excited to share it with others
Dog named "Copper".... By Todd? We just veered off into "The Fox and the Hound" 🤔😂
I once had a fox i named copper as a little jokey joke cause of that movie lol
@@beepboopbeep4801 To be honest, it's a better name for a fox, considering the color. Unless it wasn't a red fox, in which case ignore this remark.
@Minyassa it was a red fox which is why I absolutely couldn't resist lollol it was honestly one of my most magical memories 😅😅 this thing found and adopted me.... kind of a cool experience to tote around
I'm so sporadic with my viewing, I didn't know you had 3 separate videos, so I was very glad to watch this compilation with fresh eyes!
Thank you for editing them together! 😊
37:29 So is One of the oldest examples of people taking a popular franchise and stretching it out until they can no longer make money out of it
I was watching the original 3 jon solo episodes of this yesterday this is such like perfect timing
I love sweeney todd so much
Ever since I saw the stage play with George Hearn and Angela Lansbury on DVD in a fit of curiosity from my local library, I found I enjoyed watching it once in a while and that part where Toby ends Todd’s life still shocking a little.
Its always a good Day searching for a specific Video To find out That Jon Solo is back at it again with these perfect videos, and not only that but 2 days after it posted I found it whats the chances🔥🔥
Best Jon Solo I can recall seeing! At least in many months. GREAT research & great storytelling, as usual. I’m also a Broadway afficio, since kindergarten! Sweeney Todd was one of Sondheim’s best works-ever. The stage production was Excellent, with Len Cariou & Angela Lansbury! The Greek Chorus added what the film lacked-connection to a specific audience.
Interestingly, there was no mention of Sawney Beane, a character of British lore/18th century reality, too. He wasn’t a barber at all, though. He was said to have been the “inspiration” for Sweeney Todd, too. But his story consisted of even more barbaric acts, to wit: Beane was described as the progenitor of a family who lived in caves in a heavily-forested area near London. The family all specialized in highway robberies of stagecoaches passing on the main roads, particularly after nightfall. Instead of being content to rob & flee, however, the family was said to have forced the passengers to disembark, robbed them of all possessions, then killed them. Still worse, they carried the bodies off and back to their caves, where they made meals of them. I’m not sure of what became of their drivers and horses, & carriages, but the stories of disappearances eventually led the law to conduct searches, the first of which were unsuccessful. However, one of the children, oddly-attired in evidently stolen clothing was eventually spotted and then followed, leading the posse of investigators to the chain of caves.
It was there discovered by the discarded heaps of bones and cooking utensils what had ultimately become of the missing persons. It was also discovered that Sawney Beane, in “factoid,” had several dozen children living with him and their various mothers, all related to him by some nefarious chain of incestuous relations. They were all rounded-up, taken to The Old Bailey and tried, found guilty, & sentenced to death, down to the youngest toddlers and infants-all deemed too depraved, too incapacitated, too unfit for society to live, given their acclimations. It was said to have been one of the saddest and most tragic mass executions ever witnessed.
IF the story is true. It seems to have disappeared from the web. But when the musical play “Sweeney Todd, the Demon Barber of Fleet Street,” premiered & became a big hit, it was easy to find, along with references to “The String of Pearls,” & other “penny dreadfuls.” 👻🎃💀🗝☠️🎃
jon im pretty sure your original series of sweeney todd videos is the reason im obsessed with this story now
id never been interested in the burton film before but i decided to listen to the original cast album for a laugh and now im hearing the music that nobody hears
Gunther looked at Jon like what da heck was that about lol.
"He seldom laughed but he often smiled" feels like a nod towards Sweeney's horrible laugh.
I'm glad you are such a stickler for your sources. It warms my heart. One of the many reasons I'm a fan for life.
Jon, as a new listener I appreciate the compilation. More please
Johnny Depp has been singing for years. He has a band called Hollywood Vampires. Along with Alice Cooper and Joe Perry.
Gunther s look at 17:08 HAHAHAHA pure treasure! Love to that sweet lil puggy! 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
I like it when you compile the tale together in 1 video. Thank you.
Jon with Gunther reminds me of The Why Files with that guy and hecklefish. The only differences being Gunther doesn't talk and Jon does legends whereas the Why Files guy does conspiracies
Something can be said about turning the mundane and safe and quiet into something frightening
Is there going to be a messed-up origins on Beetlejuice? Even though I haven't seen the first one, I watched the new movie with my dad in the theatre near us and I'm now interested. Is Beetlejuice a character made by Tim Burton? Even so, what are his inspirations for the character? Also, I'm still looking forward to the messed-up origins of the Boogeyman. You haven't forgotten, have you?
I think I loved the 36 page version of the novel as well as the musical both Broadway and film. Honestly I was hoping that you'd do a scary story video as promised last week and my request was the baby sitter and the man upstairs. Nevertheless regardless of what you said, it's unpredictable that you'd recap the sweeny Todd lore and I actually enjoyed it
I hadn't seen the other 3 so found this really awesome in depth episode. The mention of people believing corpses could heal them definitely was established already. I remember reading a translation of Bede's Ecclesiastical history of the Anglo Saxon people, and like tons of it is him explaining how dead saints body parts will heal people.
My takeaway from this is that "The String of Pearls" was the Victorian equivalent of "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair, except less based on fact.
i know you are having a baby, and much love to you and you family.
Until the end of this, I didn't realize that it was a complication. Thank you. It is becoming very annoying that the channels I like to watch are nothing but those.
hi french speaker here, I did some research and it does seems like there's a parisien legend about a barber and a pie maker (both are men in this legend tho) and it does talk about the fact that they were caught because of a dog but i haven't read anything about a statue and looked at the road in question (now chanoinesse it used to be called marmoussets) also in what i read the house were burned and not the criminals. I only read quickly and not that much in detail but can make more researsh if needed.
have a good day :)
I really enjoyed this entire video! I like the movie best, but that may be because hearing a synopsis is no substitute for the impact of actually watching or reading a work, and the movie is the one I've seen. So I'm going to read The String of Pearls on Project Gutenberg, and then see if I can find a recording of the musical somewhere. I don't think it's based on a true story but rather is probably an amalgam of various different combined serial killer stories and anecdotes put together by the original author. This has been fascinating stuff, thank you! Excellent rabbit hole.
As always a wonderful explanation of a story I have always enjoyed!
Wow❣️ Interesting versions. I’m intrigued by “The String of Pearls”. 👍
Johnny Depp can sing- he's in a band when not working on screen projects. I'd argue that for the medium, his vocals were excellent for the film adaptation. They were more subtle and reflected the aloof and almost dual nature of the character. Just my opinion, of course.
That look Jon gets from Gunter after telling him he is supposed to take one some cohost responsibility is priceless.😂
Eyyyy, I can appreciate a content maker with a heart for fur babies, Gunther looks like he enjoys a good belly rub 😂
Another channel I watch, the Grimmlife Collective went to London recently and did a then and now shots of Fleet Street. The addresses are real, (even if the story is fictional). Very interesting.
I was looking dead into my dog's eyes right when you said his name and he looked at me and cocked his head like me😅
I wonder what you're going to do with all these videos. I've been creating several storylines of my own. You and I are of Scorpio, so it's pretty cool how we are connected in these lores.
Thanks and you're welcome, Jon Solo.
Sorry, I just have to comment on the merch that appeared below this video for me. I saw a nice blue shirt on you, with a calming nice background and a ghostly ships helm on the shirt. It was small enough I couldn't make out the rest of it. I was like "ooooo, this looks pretty and cool, I wonder what it is. /click/ OH GAWD! oh..mygod...uuuummm.....uuhhhh..aaaaaag /shudders/ no! Just no...not for me."
Sufficiently creeped me out. Awesome art, and props to the artist for extreme creepy. I couldn't live with that in my wardrobe. X3
Edit: added slashes, because apparently asterisks are for formatting. >.=.
I really liked the 'true crime...or is it' chapter. I felt it was a good illustration of how to evaluate sources of information. I am always on the look out for videos to help teach my kid how to evaluate the information they hear and critical thinking skills. It was a fun lesson.
21:45 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I like the Film version but the Play Version I would definitely watched as much as the Film version.
I thought they did pretty great with the singing given their circumstances.
Especially the song Misses Lovett sang when she was talking about settling down with Sweeney on the beach. I felt like that song was made for Carter Bonnum
You missed an opportunity to mention a similar serial killer who did exist. Great Depression era Germany there was a guy who hosted travelers for free. He killed them and sold the meat to a town desperate for food, especially fresh meat. Obsolete Oddity has a great video about it.
What is the video called? I’m interested
Um what?…Johnny Depp started his career as a musician and had been in several amateur bands before he became an actor.
tbh singing in bands doesn't equate to singing in Musical Theatre (most theatre folks are classically trained in voice and usually take classes in vocal control). Stephen Sondheim's pieces are super technical and have hard rhythms/syncopation to follow, so someone with Johnny's type of vocal experience would really struggle with Sondheim's works.
I think he's specifically referring to performing singers as in theatre
He was actually a guitarist, but his album with Jeff Beck showed a tremendous amount of growth as a singer. He's not classically trained, and Sondheims material isnt easy, but I honestly think that he made it work for the most part. His rendition of "My Friends" is probably the best rendition I've heard of the song, and his Epiphany is also quite good. But then you have JCB who has such a natural talent as a vocalist, and Sacha Baron-Cohen who is classically trained. The contrast is insane.
Cool shirts, Jon.
I think the story is basically playing on the fact that a basic part of male hygiene is to take a blade, the sharper the better, to your neck. Basically Sweeny Todd is the physical manifestation of letting intrusive thoughts win.
I never watched the movie because it’s a musical. I made the joke at work that I don’t watch them because people don’t just start signing and dancing in my experience. Now my coworkers duplicate that south park episode
"Penny Dreadful" is also an *AWESOME* Drag name 😂😂😂
45:09 That bit with the dog sounds like the Dog and Tucker Box. There’s an actual statue in NSW Australia of a dog sitting on a tucker box (lunch box) waiting for his owner. I can’t remember if it was a story or a real event but there was a man who had a dog. He would go to work and his dog would sit on the tucker box all day waiting for him. One day the man died at work and no one went to get the dog. It died sitting on the tucker box waiting for his master.
37:04 So, what you're saying is that Sweeney Todd was basically a slasher villain like Jason Voorhees and Michael Myers?
I have seen multiple versions of Sweeney Todd , from movies to variants of the musical, and even a graphic novel
Burton's Sweeney Todd would have worked better as a straight-up slasher horror without the silly songs. It could still be macabre and melodramatic like the original String of Pearls or the 1936 film with Tod Slaughter
Nice job, and I suppose it only makes sense that, with this much material to wade through, you judiciously omitted mention of the several other recent films (i.e. within the last 30 years) made on the subject, or the old Todd Slaughter show. Folks do seem to love the tale, and I must admit it's my favorite Sondheim show.
Ironically he made what is considered by a majority of people the best musical in nightmare before Christmas
And yes I'm aware that it's mostly Henry Selik
It's not held in quite the high regard you claim, but it is funny. Not to mention Burton created Corpse Bride, which is also a musical.
NOT MY POOR DOG COPPER!!!!
🎉yay! Great one!❤
Where can i find the additional chapters please?
Oh he KIND OF brought back the intro music... lovely
There was another version of Sweeney Todd from 1936 which was a British Drama. It was directed by George King and starred Tod Slaughter 😉😂
I am not joking that is the guy's name
I just enjoy lore and find history and myth mixed together interesting. Thank you so much ❤ xxxxxx
Decades ago PBS showed a version of the Sweeney Todd story where, IIRC, the ending was that Sweeney was hallucinating his killings, that they never really occurred.
Johnny Depp had sang plenty before Sweeney Todd, he did Cry- baby YEEEEARRRRSSSSS
That’s what I came to say. He’s part of a group for goodness sake.
cast that could sing and is a professional singer, Jamie Campbell Bower! his voice is amazing.
Johnny Depp HAS been in a musical. It is called Cry Baby. He's in it with Ricki Lake.
Yes .
Cry Baby is a brilliant John Waters film. 🦩
You didn't pull me away from my own voice blabbing around in my head stuck in my thoughts at first until you mentioned messed up true origins! I'm like really, that's what grabbed my attention?! 🤦🏼♀️😂 So here we go! Thanks for getting me out of my own head! It's all good seriously!
I actually just finished your original 3 part release of this a couple days ago...
Great Compo!
Love your shirt😍
For a more heroic Halloween, try the messed up origins and Mythology behind Stravinsky's Firebird.
When you mentioned the odd laugh, I immediately went to Johnny's laugh as both the Mad Hatter and Willy Wonka.
Respect to you for reading those extra 130+ chapters for this 💀😭🤣 I would have ended everything and act like I didn't see that 😆
There is a case in Hannover, Germany. A guy who offered a place to sleep to young boys looking for work, raped and killed them. He used to pick them at the central station. It is said that she made sausages with the bodies. Horrible!
I would like a report on this bit of gruesome history. 🤔😥
It's amazing how many people can't wrap their heads around the idea that a work of fiction was just completely made up. Why assume it's based on a real killer?
I've seen the play but not the movie. It does sound like something that could happen in the time period, well, all the mentioned time periods.
Holy Cow !! This story is more complicated than what excepted 😮 I've heard of the movie and play, and only glanced at film trailers. This is the first time I've heard the full story !!
I couldn’t help but turn my head when watching the gory parts of Tim Burton’s take on the story.
While Depp doesn't often appear in musicals, he went to Hollywood as part of a band. And he still performs with bands on occasion.
14:41 hahaha Peter Pettigrew
I thought he said “Pedigree.” But I wondered myself when Beadle Bamford Timothy Spalls’ character became “Peter Pedigree.”
It's interesting that there are some accounts of a fourteenth century French barber who was the real life inspiration of Sweeney Todd. Fourteenth century France was beset by severe famines, plague (the population that worked in agriculture was dying off), and war (local and foreign armies were pillaging local foodstuffs to feed their troops) causing critical food shortages that caused some people to resort to cannibalism.
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