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  • Опубликовано: 12 мар 2021
  • I spend a lot of time critiquing your Football Manager stuff. The tactics, the saves, the transfers, the scouting, all of that was on the chopping block in my last video. So, it’s only fair that I get my own tactic raided by two RUclipsrs I’ve worked with before. They play FM all the time, know their stuff, and will see my FM21 tactic without actually knowing it’s mine. I’ll have fun at the end telling them all their compliments or tips were not for someone else but the person they are talking to, but this should be a fun productive experience for me too.
    If I’m dishing it out I should be able to take it too. That being said, I’m offended my FM tactic is always perfect. Sarcasm, but I really have been trying to improve my tactical understanding in FM21, because it has always been the biggest hole in my game in past years. I love all of the stuff outside of the match engine and actual gameplay, get the transfers and player development right, and let those wonderkids do the work my tactic couldn’t. This will help me get better and help you get better too! Win-win and another win because what a great day to be alive and on RUclips.
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Комментарии • 112

  • @TomFM
    @TomFM 3 года назад +673

    Thank you for having me! If I'd have known it was your tactics from the start I would have been much more brutal 😉

  • @MegaSting1981
    @MegaSting1981 3 года назад +215

    "I would destroy this tactic"
    Oh, come on then you two! Get. It. On!

  • @LooneyHoon
    @LooneyHoon 3 года назад +362

    Appreciate you having me on! I’m using these tactics in the future!

    • @DCFCEthan
      @DCFCEthan 3 года назад +3

      only record breakers deserve to be on a good FM vid 😏

    • @Mrmayhembsc
      @Mrmayhembsc 3 года назад +4

      love the Norwich kits :)

    • @LooneyHoon
      @LooneyHoon 3 года назад +2

      @@Mrmayhembsc

  • @mattlord97
    @mattlord97 3 года назад +38

    The 433 with the defensive mid definitely does work, especially if you're a smaller club going up against a higher division side in a cup or something, it's normally what I've used in those scenarios and unless they're a significantly better side (like a prem side against a non league side) it works well and at the absolute worst you come out with a narrow loss, but often you can get draws and wins

  • @samuelevolve184
    @samuelevolve184 3 года назад +110

    I mean, isn't it the best way to hear a non-bias criticism?

  • @joehunt390
    @joehunt390 3 года назад +13

    After watching your tier list for postion/roles i switched my cam from advanced playmaker to shadow striker and he has equalled his goal tally for the whole of last season in 15 games

  • @MrEimaiegw
    @MrEimaiegw 3 года назад +22

    i just started my first save today on FM21. I picked Deportivo la Coruna. Wish me luck! haha

    • @mirage5566
      @mirage5566 3 года назад +1

      How has it gone? I'm with Coruña myself

    • @fifivid
      @fifivid 3 года назад

      So how is it going so far ? Hope you have fun! It's all that matters :)

    • @MrEimaiegw
      @MrEimaiegw 3 года назад +2

      I just got back at second division. I secured the title at third division and i hope for this season for at least a mid table position

    • @mirage5566
      @mirage5566 3 года назад

      @@MrEimaiegw I think you can go straight up if you get some loans in

    • @MrEimaiegw
      @MrEimaiegw 3 года назад

      @@mirage5566 it's not so easy mate. Haha..i have a request from the board go sign under 23 yo players and with promising future for profit for the club. I think i could try and finish mid table (5th-10th) and maybe then try to climb up! So far i have 3/3 losses in friendly matches haha

  • @Jayvees
    @Jayvees 3 года назад +2

    Your tactic is something special and a really great video to learn more about tactics in Football Manager.

  • @erethjallsen8819
    @erethjallsen8819 3 года назад +3

    Love the Tom cameo, my favorite youtuber for so long

  • @mattypusplatypus3340
    @mattypusplatypus3340 3 года назад +3

    Right before you made that joke @0:50 about not working out as much as it looks like, I thought 'Damn, Zealand is getting broad!' lol

  • @smwebbo
    @smwebbo 3 года назад +17

    6:22 when you touch something hot

  • @Seedmember
    @Seedmember 3 года назад +4

    Some things are very subjective. "Play out of defence" with players with low mental stats is an invitation to get the ball stolen right outside your box. On the other hand, if your midfield has low athleticism, "clearing it long" can become dangerous.
    Then individual traits come in play and since 2020 I've seen that players get them way faster than before and sometimes completely randomly from their mentoring groups.
    A tactic is as good as its players and their familiarity with it. Unless we're talking about some unbalanced goofiness like 3 defenders and 7 mids. Which I honestly believe could work if you have the right players, again.

  • @finding_aether
    @finding_aether 3 года назад +5

    Looks like what Mourinho used when he first came to Chelsea. Thats a pretty decent tactic 😆

  • @aligurjy6430
    @aligurjy6430 3 года назад

    Wowowo i was struggling to win over athletico madrid with my valencia team in the semifinal of the Spanish cup until I saw your video and used the 4-1-4-1 and it didn't disappoint me at all I got my win in the first attempt, wowow it was very intense I was down to 1-3 in the first half bout in the second half I won 4-3 in last minutes it was very helpful thanks mate!
    All love from Sweden

  • @skii6387
    @skii6387 3 года назад +1

    Really great video idea clicked straight away💯👍

  • @tomislavhabulan
    @tomislavhabulan 3 года назад +3

    Toms scale, brilliant

  • @freewiley5979
    @freewiley5979 3 года назад +1

    Zealand I love the consistency lately, keep it up!

  • @benjamingillum6680
    @benjamingillum6680 3 года назад +6

    Rating 10 should be niran (FNG) Since he won the streamer show down

  • @gazamidori2866
    @gazamidori2866 3 года назад +1

    Ngl never watched your streams, didn't know your tactics. Glad to say that mine and yours and pretty much identical. I have a PF and an AM. attacking Fullbacks. Besides that pretty much identical tactics and Instructions.

  • @nateyoung189
    @nateyoung189 3 года назад +6

    Impressed you managed to get James Acaster on the channel

  • @vaaggasje
    @vaaggasje 3 года назад +1

    17:42 Classic headphones hair

  • @troy1190
    @troy1190 2 года назад

    Big up for Zealand wearing Chinese red shirt, fan from China

  • @Roscododger
    @Roscododger 3 года назад +21

    I would love to see Looney Hoon on the streamer showdown. Great streamer, creator and a really fun guy.
    Edit: I called it
    Edit: This is awkward

  • @aidanmagill6769
    @aidanmagill6769 3 года назад +6

    You can't judge a tactic if you don't know what it's trying to achieve.

    • @DrZaius3141
      @DrZaius3141 Год назад

      Also if you don't know the squad's abilities, limitiations, competition.

  • @asterisarabatzis721
    @asterisarabatzis721 3 года назад +3

    Hello Zealand. Do you upload your tactics anywhere?

  • @tyranttracergaming
    @tyranttracergaming Год назад

    Wow got recommended this video now.

  • @CH33KYiZninj4
    @CH33KYiZninj4 3 года назад

    i went 60 games unbeaten with the 433 this year thank you very much

  • @roxe-8753
    @roxe-8753 3 года назад +1

    Dw with iwb absoluely perfect well im usethem on mine from early fm 21

    • @jackstonbond
      @jackstonbond 3 года назад

      YES! I've never seen somebody suggest this on a stream or in the comments but my god I've used it for all of fm21 in different scenarios and it's incredible. DW is definitely my favourite role this FM, you can have any sort of player play it well tbh! I had a national league team save where I had 3 strikers and both of my DWs finished on 15+ assists

  • @subliminalgravy1549
    @subliminalgravy1549 3 года назад +2

    Im 13 seconds in and all i can think is Z ordered that shirt a size too small and his arms/shoulders look mad bigger than before. Also his head but ya know... (fellow 5 head bro here)

    • @Roscododger
      @Roscododger 3 года назад

      He has had it for years. Its not new by any means and he was a lot smaller when he got it.

    • @subliminalgravy1549
      @subliminalgravy1549 3 года назад

      @@Roscododger ah fair, not been here for years, first time ive seen it

  • @thiagogfalcao
    @thiagogfalcao 3 года назад +1

    Z, what's with the WBs? Why not use FBs when you have wingers in the midfield stratum?

  • @nilspils5223
    @nilspils5223 3 года назад +1

    Could it be that on 14:00 tactic, that u force them inside on defend duty so u win the ball midfield, and then pass out to attacking wingers who are already high up the pitch and have space to attack? Can that be a good idea?

  • @mikeoxmaul6699
    @mikeoxmaul6699 3 года назад +14

    Scuffed tactics tbh

  • @Rob_FortyTwo
    @Rob_FortyTwo 3 года назад +2

    I want to know if you adjusted any of the tactics based on their feedback.

  • @shawngillogly6873
    @shawngillogly6873 3 года назад +2

    Don't agree with the assertion 433 doesn't work in FM21 at all. I've used it a great deal this year, to good effect.

    • @winsingtoniii681
      @winsingtoniii681 3 года назад

      Yep, I use it regularly and it works well, a little surprised they were saying it's less good this year. I guess it might be less good relative to how good 4-2-3-1 is this year, but that's more a commentary on how overpowered 4-2-3-1 is this year.

    • @jonnyhull7860
      @jonnyhull7860 3 года назад +1

      I play 433 with a def mid, and I've won everything I won the prem with qpr, and won the Scottish prem league with queenspark won all the leagues, its your tactics and player tactics that are key in my view 👍

    • @sld1776
      @sld1776 3 года назад

      The 433 is always good in FM. Every tactic has a weakness, and the 433 weakness--space between wide forwards and wingbacks--is acceptable.

  • @Liristis007
    @Liristis007 3 года назад

    I'm a noob. Doing xbox version. 4th season currently as morecambe (asked to manage during season 2 from hungerford in VNS)
    I am struggling. Got relegated and currently 2nd in vanarama to get back to league 2
    I dont know if I'm making money and cant bring in quality players worth the correct division I'm in it plan to get into. Plus losing games I really shouldnt like last place!

  • @ottson
    @ottson 3 года назад +1

    Why the fawk would you have a sweeper keeper on defend duty?

  • @hugefanofgabicallumb7216
    @hugefanofgabicallumb7216 2 года назад

    hey... was z talking about Bogdan Nap at 1:21 (10 being well it used to be ... but lets just put my face) ???

  • @wasabi5
    @wasabi5 3 года назад +2

    At real game, you have to adapt the tatic during the game, you never get good results if you use the same tatic at 90 minutes, against diferent teams, the good coach adapt and is creative, best regards from Portugal

  • @veeclash4157
    @veeclash4157 3 года назад

    I love how they just BRUTALLY TORE apart your tactics. LOL. Makes a guy want to second guess his tactics and make em a little better, maybe?

  • @d-towngooner5260
    @d-towngooner5260 3 года назад

    Hay dude, what would your masterful mind advise on taking advantage of my opposition using wb (att) on both sides of defense ?

  • @lewislc2714
    @lewislc2714 3 года назад +1

    Who was the first guy he seems cool

  • @jnca98
    @jnca98 3 года назад

    im not agree with the 451 opinions. If the wingers are in attack role, they can arrive in area easily even if they play as mildfielders

  • @carldone6845
    @carldone6845 3 года назад

    Looks like I’m sitting on a 5 for most of my custom tactics 😩

  • @hariharasaimohan205
    @hariharasaimohan205 3 года назад +1

    Wait..... isn't the first tactic a copy of Totaalvoetball?

  • @joemurphy4971
    @joemurphy4971 3 года назад

    Big up Norwich City!!!

  • @gamewithgreg
    @gamewithgreg 3 года назад

    Quite a few times Tom said "you" instead of "the person who submitted this tactic", so I wondered whether he knew all along 🤔

    • @mrfreeman2911
      @mrfreeman2911 3 года назад

      He was talking to the person who made the tactic.

    • @man4437
      @man4437 2 года назад

      That's like being surprised that people call her "Liz" instead of "Her majesty the queen of England and the commonwealth"

  • @riddis8785
    @riddis8785 3 года назад

    Bro if it aint 4-2-3-1 i legit cant play, whenever i play i always use this formation and any other is just bad for me

  • @willynilly63
    @willynilly63 3 года назад

    Can someone tell me a good, in date video, to help me install a good facepack easily. I’m new to the game and when I try to do it the faces usually still don’t show.

  • @EssyOnYT
    @EssyOnYT 3 года назад

    He just uploaded on the live channel and main at the same time 😭

    • @iamAyal
      @iamAyal 3 года назад

      He does that very often

  • @markpost2248
    @markpost2248 3 года назад

    go Chessi!!

  • @robertwatson4676
    @robertwatson4676 3 года назад +1

    Some one should tell Tom that he needs to work on his pronunciation of gegen

  • @s3credryzen463
    @s3credryzen463 3 года назад +1

    early check im 4th

  • @hyytyyhuuto2795
    @hyytyyhuuto2795 3 года назад +5

    You make your tactics and formation for players you got. Streghts and weaknesses. This vid feels stupid. More like: tell me how to abuse match engine not a boring way

  • @FranzFridl
    @FranzFridl 3 года назад +1

    F9 and SS toghether? That's like a lot of overlap. I've never tried it. And no inverted wingers or inverted full backs? I always have inverted wingers to push more bodies to the box. But I'm getting pelted at my save so...

    • @FranzFridl
      @FranzFridl 3 года назад

      @@colouredIncognito thanks! I've been playing for a wile but I feel there's more to learn

    • @primeprover
      @primeprover 3 года назад +2

      When F9 first came out the recommendation was to play it with SS

  • @timeandmoney84
    @timeandmoney84 3 года назад +6

    Just get bustthenet on as a special guest. The input from these two wasn't great

    • @jameswazza3606
      @jameswazza3606 3 года назад +2

      yeah bustthenet is the best. He'll be back soon.

    • @thomaskendell8146
      @thomaskendell8146 3 года назад

      He doesn't like Zealand 🤣

    • @jameswazza3606
      @jameswazza3606 3 года назад +1

      @@thomaskendell8146 for real, how do you know?

  • @glenhoddle7694
    @glenhoddle7694 3 года назад +1

    Hi are you like the best fm manager in the world?

  • @onizuka255
    @onizuka255 3 года назад

    MAKE A YT SAVE Z!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @binepivk4196
    @binepivk4196 3 года назад

    Hey Zealand :)

  • @MurrayC_11
    @MurrayC_11 3 года назад +1

    How do they not notice Familiarity

  • @minnumseerrund
    @minnumseerrund 3 года назад

    why is the top of your head so wide

  • @johnjonas1802
    @johnjonas1802 3 года назад

    Spoiler alert. The Chinese Messi 😔

    • @Roscododger
      @Roscododger 3 года назад

      Sad face? He was loaned in man. We're hyped about it.

  • @bl8976
    @bl8976 3 года назад

    Haven't watched the rest yet but the first guy was ridiculous. Just talking pure nonsense.

  • @dalerhodes1793
    @dalerhodes1793 3 года назад

    Did u borrow a trolls China shirt lol 😆

  • @OuvinteAmigao
    @OuvinteAmigao 3 года назад +1

    thumbs down for the 1st shirt ;)

  • @YaBoyRagnarsty
    @YaBoyRagnarsty 3 года назад +1

    Can't get over how the 2nd guy he talks to says "Gegenpress". Geeeegenpress...
    Almost as bad as Americans saying a player plays "on" a team... ;)

    • @gazamidori2866
      @gazamidori2866 3 года назад +1

      Hi, yank here. I support to famous london reds. Hate the manchester blues. And love the old ladies piedmonte calico. Hala mesi.

  • @mihailonichevski4155
    @mihailonichevski4155 3 года назад

    I love it when I'm the first viewer 😂

  • @hugocosta2645
    @hugocosta2645 3 года назад +1

    You cant rate a tactic without knowing the players, every tactic can be good depending on the players you have, in my opinion is nonsense to rate a tactic without knowing the players, and even more nonsense to say that he would smash that tactic... At least in real life football

  • @tombak8742
    @tombak8742 3 года назад

    CHINA
    Show this video 2 trump

  • @willbrown3581
    @willbrown3581 3 года назад

    1 should have been FNG not u, he is clear