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Are you learning to code for the money?
Absolutely Yes Sir
yes.
think about that one who say I don't like money
Absolutely!
Definitely.
Who doesn't!
Yooooo Jonny Sins is a software developer? And he's helping us to get into the industry? Mind blown 🤯
Johnny the Developers 😂
Designer and Developer of B*azzers Website.
I thought he was a plumber, he makes regular repair calls to my mom's house. The sink is always still broken though...
BROOOO this is too funny!!
The biggest difference that I've seen over the years working with people is that some people who just do it for the money go home and never even touch computer or don't even own one at home. That's fine but they will never be the people that leave a lasting impression on you on the quality of work that they are able to perform because they will always be playing catch up learning all of the current trends only during work hours. So if you live and love what you do and also spend time outside of work learning it you will stand out in the crowd over the people who don't.
I hate the whole passion thing. Do it for money. You know what 99% of programmers do? They use libraries to move data from one place to another. You're gonna update a text field to handle dashes in zip codes. Six months later you're gonna change it to remove dashes. And year after that you're gonna put the dashes back. After you've been doing it a few years the only challenge will be finding your own typos. Oh and learning how to do the exact same thing in a new framework or library. You're gonna get so so so sick of relearning how to do the same things every few years because a VP heard about this new cool thing and he's a new VP and he wants to make his mark with arbitrary and pointless changes. Who in the hell would be passionate about rewriting the middle ware every couple years cause your vendor changed their json (or more likely XML)? Efffin' nobody. But meh don't worry about it. You can sit in a nice air conditioned room listening to music and make 3 or 4 times the median income to add a table to a database or move a text box 2 pixels to the left.
Thank you. I've worked a labor intensive job with half the average pay of a jr dev. If I am sorting inside the AC listening to music you can have me uncentering and recentering a div all day long for that kind of salary
Damn, y’all don’t bullshit. That’s what I love about this channel. People just tell it how it is.
nice one
Just like the Roman Legions who were following every would-be Citizen-General into the Rio Tinto mines to plunder Hispania for the 78th time because they wanted to make a name for themselves. If it weren't for those sweet Liras, many of us wouldn't look the way we do today.
This is hilarious and eye-opening 👍🏿
I know from experience that doing something you at the very least find interesting is so much better than doing something you find boring. Money is a great motivation but like you said its probably not the best idea to have it as your only motivation.
Yes happiness matters . If you feel happy making money doing something you love, your life becomes 10x better.
I love sex with a woman - nobody's going to pay me for that; I lack the desirable traits for the adult videos. I love to play my video game - nobody's going to pay me for that. I love my dog... See where I'm going with this? Work is called work for a reason. It's time consuming. It's arduous. It can be laborious. We toil at it, and we stress through it, over it, and it haunts us when we're not there. Doing what you love? That's called a hobby. If you're one of those fortunate enough to get paid while doing your hobby, then you're truly blessed! People need to stop promoting this unrealistic idea of doing what makes you happy at a job.
Well you're a minority. The majority work jobs they hate cos they have bills to pay. If we had a Universal Basic Income this wouldn't be a problem
To be fair, there are already people working jobs that they hate in poor conditions at a working class wage, and not everyone can pursue an industry they're passionate because not all careers pay enough, not to mention that some people never develop a passion for any subject in particular. We always hear phrases like, "Don't quit your day job to do art," in movies, so coding might as well be that day job. I think before we get to the topic of passion and motivation we should at least acknowledge that everyone needs to meet their bare necessities first.
@@vanessaphanouvong5870 I agree.
at the same time, for normal people who have options, work should at least just be work. aka tolerable. not a miserable hellhole
Lol at the Johnny sins pics and office space memes. Money/financial stability is def a big motivator for my future family. But it’s also exciting because of the potential to build your own side projects
Pretty much what motivates me to keep pushing, I have a few projects i want to build but not quite there in terms of skill yet.
I'm really glad you said this. I talk to one of my buddies, who was also a programmer, about the gatekeeping that I see even as a person who's still learning." If you feel like you need to take a break then maybe programming is not for you" it's just one of many cringe comments that I've heard people say. Can be a real turn-off I tell you
Dude finally played in to the johnny sins joke. Loved this vid.
For me, programming began as a hobby and it eventually became a skill that I used professionally as a systems analyst. I have seen people who got into IT for the money; they were almost unanimously insufferable as coworkers. They were not problem solvers, they were problem makers.
Same lol. Used to build websites for fun. Now I'm taking it more seriously.
I'm learning to Code so I can hopefully do something that pays more than what I am making now.
The fact that I enjoy Coding and Web Development makes it that much better.
0:31 Lol love how you put your picture in all of those professions
it's Johnny Sins actually 😂😂
I know most people will say they will work for the money, but the truth is that if a person enjoys his work, money should not be in between the person and his job. I worked so many jobs in my life, one of them was a PC technician, but over a couple of years, I got bored. I wanted something interesting that I would like, so I found web development was something I would be interested in.
"Will code for food"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Those Johnny Sins career pics 😂
Man, this channel is straight fire. PLEEEEEEASE stay this real, because its taken me 3 years of MULTIPLE youtube channels on development to be able to weed out the click bate from the real. I even heard another developer on LinkedIn the other day say something along these lines... He said...
"I literally only coded maybe 2 hours today and haven't learned anything new in the past 2 months" "Can't believe I get paid this much for this"
This was refreshing in a sea of these people talking about learning 6 languages and coding for 8 hours a day and then coding for "fun" after work. I'm like... bro, I got kids and a wife and hobbies, not trying to do IT stuff after IT stuff all day.... Know what I mean?
I think there actually is a combination between the two. I like coding, but honestly if pay was bad, I'd rather not do it.
Getting paid for something you love doing, does not mean it will always be enjoyable.
I started out as a video-games (something I'm passionate about) tester, but after 2 years of doing the same thing over and over like testing if a hand-grenade will make the same sound in 15 different environments every day months on end, all of this on minimum wage, is not fun...
I can empathise with this entirely.
I was in games for four years and it was so boring I thought to myself "if I'm bored anyway, why don't I get paid more?" So I went into Software Dev.
A job is a job, nobody pays you to have fun.
Tell me about it. I'm a teacher and i like teaching yet I'm tired and i want more money. Thus how i ended up learning to code. Because you like something doesn't mean it will never get boring or annoying or that there aren't things that you are not gonna like about it. I still like teaching and i also like coding but more importantly i need more money
@@eylonemuskson4177 do you still get in touch with your hobbies/passion projects? or do you sacrifice them entirely for the sake of money?
What you mentioned is exactly what I did with the networking field. Started studying for certs twelve years back, hated it but continued, and now I make well over 100k. I still don't like it, but it pays me very well. I'm currently learning programming to maybe make a career switch.
🤣🤣 if you noticed the picture of the teacher, you might not go to heaven .
I was studying Cybersecurity and preparing to get my A+, Sec+, Net+ certs and all of it was just SOOOO BORING, as you said. That's what drove me to programming as well. And I've heard the same thing from quite a lot of others. Cert chasing is like a feeder program into programming and web dev.
RELATE TO THIS 100000%
Studied and passed exams for A+, N+, S+ & CCNA. Learning to code is sooo much more interesting than studying for those, thank God
What made cybersecurity so boring and not programming? I ask because I'm debating which one to pursue.
@@jdon4398 What makes it so much more interesting? How much creativity and a sense of making something your own is in cybersecurity vs. programming?
@@ruleaus7664 I dunno, it's hard to explain, but for me it was just uninteresting overall. Lot of information overload in a short timespan, labs that had you setting up firewalls or analyzing network traffic were so mindnumbingly mundane. I guess it's person dependent, but with programming and web dev, you can learn something and start creating something tangible within hours and it just snowballs into wanting to learn and create more.
Love your videos, man. You're the only one in this space that I've found so far who just makes videos as a normal dude. Everyone else seems to pretend to be some kind of mystic. Thanks for being real 👍
0:30 I loved that you put pictures of yourself dressed as different professions, it was hilarious.
I think I’m lucky, I actually love programming. It has its ups and downs, sometimes I hate it when I’m stuck on a dumb bug for hours on end. But I love the satisfaction of fixing a problem and understanding something I didn’t understand before.
I think people need to also understand that having passion in something doesn’t mean you’ll love it 24/7. Passion, along with anything you love in life will not be perfect.
Also, I agree with the money thing. I initially would have never wanted to major in computer science if it didn’t pay much. Good on you for being a real one.
I said this in class and my teacher threw a little hissy fit lol like bro you're not paying my tuition fees
Thank you for creating such an honest video. I get so sick of people talking about doing something you love and not just for the money, but while money isn't everything it is a big part of something and is a necessity. I am learning how to code not solely for the money ,but the longterm growth and potential that comes with having such a skill. Thanks again! :-)
This was good to hear. Feelings are something that are so out of our grasp sometimes and unreliable. But having a stable income is something that I feel everyone wants as a base line. Programming is something you don't need to go to college to learn AND it pays a lot, those two reasons are enough to at least consider it
You're such a breath of fresh air! I've been doing this for nearly 10 years professionally. I still see job ads for senior engineers where they want someone with passion and a personal github. It's staggering. If you've ever worked with some does constantly code in their spare time, you'll find they try their best to ruin every project by adding in risky new technologies and dependencies for the sake of personal fulfillment, get bored, and go to work at a start-up while you try and turn their mess into something commercially viable. People with passion are actively worse, but still we're bombarded with job specs apparently written for children.
I've seen the kind of person you're taking about. You described a previous co-worker of mine perfectly. I didn't realize it was that common.
Dude you are awesome. Ive only watched 3 of your videos and I love the way you are just completely transparent and honest. You are a true blue and your words are much appreciated!
Massive respect for the honesty!
It did help Dorian. Keep up the good work. Awesome channel. What's important is that this channel is unique, stuff I get here I don't get anywhere else, and for me it shows that you are walking the talk, you are doing what you like. Cheers!
Fantastic message... I watched this video at the peak of giving up coding.You are exactly correct, everywhere I am seeing that coding is only for people who is s having passion and it is very confusing. Thank you
What ever happened to just lying? "Oh, ternary operators? Super pashhhhh about those bad boys - where do i sign?"
My God! Dorian sir are you really a body double for Johnny sir ?😅
I like how honest you are man keep it up I already learned a lot from you
The money is what keeps me passionate about programming
The A+ comment hit home LOL. Grinding certs on the SysOps side of things is really tedious, but those damn pieces of paper often block you from getting the better paid gigs *sigh* ...but that IT money though...
I realized that the secret to making a million is saving for a better investment. I always tell myself you don't need that new Maserati or that vacation just yet. That mindset helped me make more money investing. For example last year I invested 80k in stocks (with the help of my Financial Advisor of course) and made about 246k, but guess what? I put it all back and traded with her again and now I'm rounding up close to a million.
@Dwayne Wright I agree with you, Covid taught us the importance of having a plan "B" income. You are not safe with just one paying job, when nobody knows what will happen next. Look at what happened to so many of u...
Job will pay your bills, business will make you rich but investment makes and keep you wealthy, the future is inevitable 💵
Investment is that tiny line that separates the RICH from the POOR. The foolish from wise sorry to say. I can proudly say I am wise today because I can provide for my family through my investments.
@@Tonyforeman659 What is your advice for a new beginner like myself, I have been trying to practice using a demo accounts, but I am scared that I don't know enough to start trading all by myself. What to do next.
@@pablosmith1747 Be careful not to jump into trading without any proper training because it can be very detrimental. Many folks jump into trading only to suffer great loss at the very beginning. Do not try to imitate a professional traders, better still ask questions. Get the services of a professional stock expert or a licensed broker.
You are the honest one who talks about coding and se ,thank you, keep going with these amazing videos😁🙌❤️
To be honest I'm thriving on the fact that I want to make money in a way that is fun for me and easily accessible.
No shame in trying to get paid and learn while doing it.
It's really inspiring to me that you got your A+, started on Net+, and then jumped to coding and became successful. I just got my A+ a few months ago, and I'm a support technician right now. Google isn't giving me a solid answer if it's possible to go from technician to software engineer, but your content is making me feel like maybe I can. I'm subscribing, your videos are pretty cool.
I definitely enjoy coding sometimes but I don't think I have the level of passion as you. Sometimes I get bored and can't focus. But it always does feel great when something comes together. I've come to a place where I've decided to prioritise things I'm interested in mainly based on how much money they can get me or how good I think I am/can get at them. I tend to be the sort of person who always moves into something new and has too many interests. So I sorta have to train myself to stick with things a little more and not overthink why I'm doing them. Money is a fine reason. I certainly love coding a lot better than teaching or customer service which I did before haha.
Thanks for your honesty
I’ve helped teach and mentor at a few coding schools now and I’ve seen many students who do it for the big salary and benefits of working at a tech company. Most of those people seem to end up really hating their job when they become a developer. The silver lining though is that if you do learn to code and it’s not some thing that you want to do every day there are still many programming adjacent roles at tech companies that might suite you better and it will help that you have programming knowledge.
“Never put passion in front of principle. Even if you win, you'll lose.” - Mr. Miyagi
I learn to code for the money, but I actually like it.
What I like even more are your videos! Thank you, Dorian!
I really appreciate your content and it hits deeper in me, you've got new sub!
its like “b*tch it’s a job at the end of the day”
Just subscribed. I don't sub to much nowadays, but I've seen a couple of your videos come up and every time I think "this guy seems real genuine, and makes very good points". So here I am 😅
You’ve become one of my favourite RUclipsrs!
Keep up the great work man!!!
you da realest dawg 👍🏽
i have a love hate relationship with coding as with everything. i find it fascinating but suffer low dopamine. whether it is adhd or not idk but computers or at least learning about them makes me feel safe
I love your content... I dont understand everything 'cause Im spanish and Im learning english ('cause for programing i need to learn it) so... yeah jajaja, but your content in general is really honest and i love that about you, thanks for everything
Thank you, thank you so much for saying this.
Good thing about CS/CE is the amount of different things it enables you to do. You can work on webdev, AI, systems dev, cybersecurity, game dev, embedded systems, just to name a few.
Had a guy irl tell me the same shit"without passion people burn out". Then he casually threw a bunch of advanced lingo at me and scared me away for years...
Maybe its true people burn out eventually, that kind of money earned changes lives...
Keep up your good work. You are really inspirational. I am 30 y old, father of two and want to make the change in my career. Also it was my dream while I was a kid and I had thought that developers play games all day long at work. :) I am at the beginning but your example makes my really focused on goal to become software dev. You proved thats possible. Cheers
yeah passion is overrated. you just need the will to learn it and keep going.
I love how real you are dude. Keep being real. REAL.
I chose to become a developer 20 years ago bc I knew it would give me the financial stability I was looking for. I grew up low income so the money was high on my list. I will also say I do find what I do interesting and I like to learn new skills. I get board easy and like a challenge. Just part of my personality.
I will also say that 20 years ago I saw the writing on the wall and new computers weren’t going any where and the need for computer experts in all fields was only going to grow. I imagined jobs in tech will be the next blue collar work bc it would become so ubiquitous. One does not have to program to work in this field. Even someone who is managing a WP site as in managing the site layout and posting content is working in tech. Those jobs may not pay as much as a developer job but I think low pay in that work is better then low pay in working in fast food or retail were u have to interact with large groups of people, which some can be rude, or the non stop physical work that wears down people bodies.
Any way. Dude. Ur awesome. Always looking forward to ur next video.
Well said Dorian. I'm one of those who said too simply that "you shouldn't do it just for the money", your video fully articulates what I was trying to say, only so much better. Do you think you would have made it though if you didn't "fall in love" with programming? Or would you have quit your self taught journey.
JFC, your photo samples of the professions lmao XD
I agree with you , godspeed Dorian 👍👍.
THANK YOU FOR KEEPING IT REAL !!!!
thank you so much for this video!
Hey Dorian, I love how you conveyed the message. It helped me be practical.
You removed the nonsensical standards. Appreciate your video. I feel great that I can do what I hate to make money. I do it for the money, no other reason.
Thanks for the video.
🤣🤣🤣 You're the best man. Good ol' Johnny
Dude, your like my mentor bro! Your videos are so inspiring! Thanks 😊
I met a software developer not long ago, I was eager to ask some questions and he was like “don’t do it just because you think you can get a job, do it because you love it. I’ve been coding since I was 12… blah blah blah…” I must admit I felt discouraged and even lied a bit just to not feel like an idiot (I am 41 and barely getting started). Of course the next day I just kept going as usual but some doubt was in the back of my mind, am I doing this for the “right reasons?”. Now that I see this video (love your content btw!), I realize I was not alone in this feeling, so thanks a lot!
Hello sir my self Karan, I have been learning coding since past 2 months and your thoughts towards coding and life are really unbeatable, you videos have a great quality with unfiltered thoughts. Hope to meet you soon. Have a great time ahead.
thank you for the advice Johnny Sins, always been a fan since I was young.
I worked for the railroad in several different jobs. My last job, as a Passenger Conductor, I worked for 8 years. After many late trains, service interruptions, trespasser fatalities, and filthy hotel stays, they fired me, after using a brand new policy retroactively. I despise that company, and I truly hated the work, and many of the two faced reprobates that worked with me. It paid well. Before the scamdemic, over 90k/year. I feel like I could mop up diarrhea if it paid that kind of money. I've resigned myself to the idea that NO JOB or career would ever come close to making me happy. Paying my bills, and having money left over at the end of the month - thinking $500-$1000 per month - that would make me happy.
I love your honesty Dorian. Calling out the all the bad aspects of the programming community.
Thanks Johnny.
Hey Dorian, hell yeah we are doing it for the cash tbh. I'm currently learning and your channel is really helping me out in tailoring my journey
I'm definitely learning to code for the money as the primary reason, but also because I want to work with nerdy people like myself, have a valuable skill that can evolve into different disciplines, and have potential for longterm growth into an actual career. It's no secret people in tech enjoy jobs with benefits and flexible hours. As someone who has to wake up at 6AM to get to work on time, that prospect is immensely appealing. So it's not just the nice salary, but the whole lifestyle associated with it is why I want to work in tech.
0:08 As a female dev, totally. Gatekeepers don't like that I've been in the industry longer then a lot of them
I'm learning 3D computer animation and I found out it's really similar to coding. Always using Google or RUclips when coming across technical issues. I love what I do, 3D animation and modeling is really nice but sometimes it can be frustrating or nerve wrecking but I keep going. My favorite part is seeing the characters I created come to life and it makes me happy. But I am deciding to start to learn to code with free resources available because I can actually apply coding to my creative workflow. I am hoping that when I start to code, when I make it a habit it will become natural and add it into my animation workflow. Is it possible for me to still pursue coding even though I am 4 years in studying animation? Even with 4 years of college I still don't know everything about animation but I always have to seek out answers myself and do research all the time in my freetime, similar to coding. I hope after college I can find a decent paying job but if not, I might still have a chance to change careers early on and switch to coding and then see if I can find coding jobs as well. Or maybe somehow make a portfolio showing projects with both animation and coding projects? I'm not sure anymore.
I love your Anti RUclips software dev standpoints lol… much love !
Hahaaahhaaa the doctor, teacher lmao.
That's it. If people were doing it not for the money they would all be in open source and should launch their SASS for free. Almost 90% of developers are in this filed because it pays well.
You should follow the money, but always take passion with you.
The best tax lawyers aren't passionate about tax law, they're passionate
about being great at something and the benefits that come along with being the best in your field
They are passionate about making money. Just say it how it is
I think it is a nice way to say don't learn to code unless you either have an aptitude for it and/or are are going to put in the effort, don't waste time and money on trying to learn a skill you won't stick with. Also if you don't enjoy coding on its own when you add in the high bogon environment of a business.... And yes I am learning to code (in middle age) for the money. If I was doing it for fun I would be learning Lisp, not Python and JS
Im definitely more of the second i brute force my way through everything through sheer refusal to quit.
I remember earlier that I wanted to be a Computer Science major yet began getting feelings that maybe I'd be super miserable sitting in a desk and writing code for hours on a day. I would learn it but feel like coding isn't my thing although I feel like getting into tech.
I’m a teacher and I really enjoy some aspects of my job. However, I really dislike many aspects of the job. I have resigned from my teaching job and will be done after this year. I am learning coding currently on my own and try to spend at least an hour per day on it with the hopes of being able to find a new career in a year to two years. It’s very scary and stressful but it’s less scary than feeling like I’m stuck where I am now.
That's exactly my current situation
@@AsumanMotivations Very nice! What are you using primarily to learn?
I'm doing the same. Currently attending a bootcamp and at first it was great but now I am struggling to keep up the pace. I have never been good at math and my logic is something I must improve. But obviously as dorian said, bills need to be paid and I want to travel, my career simply does not allow that and I am 27 so if I keep working at dead-end jobs I will never succeed. So it's hard but I will continue on the self taught developer path, web development is what I find interesting and why not mobile apps. I wouldn't like to be a data scientist tho, that's something I'd never do. But with coding I will buy my house, and invest so that I can retire early and do something more relaxing. That's my main aim.
I have already seen that lawyer and that teacher somewhere, I wonder where... 👀lol
Get your money 💰💰💰
Everyone who says they don't do it for the money but yet won't take a job that is not paying top salary...
I wonder how can someone love something without even trying to understand it. yeah I started to learn coding for money. but after I went little bit deeper than I fell in love with it. of course nothing will make any sense when you write your first line of code but you gotta keep doing it to find its beauty
Good point.
It's that story: The messenger is part of the message.
Never take the "do not work for money, but for love" story literally. There's always a reason, which probably doesn't apply to your life, for people to say that.
I'm doing it because being a warehouse grunt is not fulfilling. I want a challenge that is going to make my mind as strong as my body. But for the money hell yea. It's a big plus. I'm enjoying the journey. Great video man I enjoy the perspectives you give to us.
Fellow warehouse grunt here. 100% feel the same!
@@Blarg6306 We have to get out of there. It's hard to study with only a few hrs to even be awake after a shift. I'm rooting for you.
I am a kid from North Jersey just from the poor side of town and has NYC as my skyline every night. I'm from a city of hustlers , code is a way out for many of us that live in poverty's especially if your black or Latino like me. Don't get me wrong I love and enjoy programming especially the front-end. Programming allows me to use my business brain and the artistic side of my brain which is gives me the best of both worlds. But I would be lying to myself if I said I wasnt doing this for the money, this is not a hobby we trying to get the bag 💰💰💰
Since this past summer, I've been coding several times a week for fun. The only thing that could make it better is the money!
Aaron Clarey puts it the best: "Every job sucks." But the most you find yourself more free, with more time for the same amount of money you have now to the point you'll not even worry about working anymore... you'll always be satisfied.
How many jobs has Aaron Clarey worked?
@@newuser689 He's an economist who predicted the housing bubble pop of 2007, has his own youtube channel where he talks how he hustled to get free of any debt and self-employed before 50 years old, along with many other life advice. Go check it out.
Thanks for this. I also fell in love with coding, but it is so bad to do it for monetary reasons? My income is not high and I want to provide for my family and give them a better life.
It's just the same in the art community, that we should do it just for the passion we feel about the art.
Hell no! If you get paid for something you enjoy doing then go ahead!
I'm in it for the money. No shame about it
Money is the best motivator.
It's like Goldilox. You shoudn't focus on money too little, nor too much.
Yep totally agree! I enjoy coding, but don't love it. There are other things I'd rather do than write code in my off time
F21. I'm learning python so I can develop a few ideas I have in mind in hopes thay they make the world a better place AND also make me money. I don't really see myself doing programming as a profession but I think it's such a helpful skill to know.
So as soon as I decided I wanted to become a programmer I immediately started doing it and studying 6+ hours a day for 38 days straight 😅 I took two codecademy courses on python and got certifications there, and I’m just finishing up cs50 week 1
I’ve made a handful of games, a calculator, expense reporter. I am completely obsessed and I can not wait to get a job doing it and pass my first interview
How's it going?
The thing is, developers who remain great year after year, and don't get stuck in the "expert beginner" category after a few years, are likely the ones who found programming, and had it as a hobby/passion, and *then* started making money. With that said, it doesn't mean you can't pursue a career with programming, and be good at it. Right now, there's a big shortage of talent, and we'll hire whomever can fill that position. That won't be the case forever. Remember that this field is rapidly changing, and that requires constantly learning new things, in a much faster pace than many other areas.
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