IT WASN'T A ROBBERY 😤 Simon Jordan DISAGREES With Eddie Hearn As Adam Smith ADMITS Bivol Was WRONGED
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Simon Jordan and Adam Smith discussed the outcome of Artur Beterbiev vs Dmitry Bivol and whether Eddie Hearn was right to feel aggrieved.
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Yet Eddie didn’t think GGG was cheated/robbed out of his lifetime of work when Conelo got the nod in their fights👎🏼🇬🇧
unreal robbery that was, Adelaide Byrd should never have been allowed ref again after that farce
Yes. \he's an asshole
Naa Beterbiev was robbed out of highlights. Whoever was editing the final highlights of each round should be ashamed. Trying sway people perspective of the fight by giving us nothing but Bivol highlights and grains of Arturs
I think it’s because he was landing clean much more than Beterbiev?
Nobody wants to see him hit gloves over and over for highlights 😂
@@lordfarquard9902 rounds 5, 6, and 7 Bivol was hurt and were clearly Beterbiev rounds where he was landing devastating shots. Rewatch it and tell me again where are Beterbievs highlights in those rounds specifically. And most of the highlights that that do show Bivols clean landing shots are reshown in different angles. Rewatch it and come back to me. Everyone on the streams were calling that out.
@@ThatGuy-du3sq I watched it live I don’t need to watch highlights. Bivol out landed him in half the shots thrown.
Bivol won everyone knows it
Hearn pushing a drug cheat and saying somebody else should be banned. Snake.
Almost like he’s more interested in making money than the integrity of boxing. Should be a promoter
😂😂
Hearn is bad for boxing his a lowlife scumbag
Hearn cares not a jot about the sport of boxing ! Hence why he stuck with Conor Benn ( Eubank fight worth millions ) he’s a disgrace.
Shut up you mug
Beterbiev defence was good as well look at he’s face hardly any marks. A lot of bivol shots hit gloves too. This fight showed me beterbiev can box just as good as bivol.
That's not how boxing is scored though.
If it was then people would be telling you Anthony Joshua beat Usyk to a pulp.
@@davidt510 not really because Aj couldn’t even do that. You still need skill to to do that to the boxer.
Bivol was running after round 7 with his hands to his face in desperation within the championship rounds.
Go watch his interview on fight hub ,he was scared to koed ,survival mode
So you haven’t boxed before
Yes I think Bivol himself felt he didn't throw enough in the later rounds, rematch should be amazing!
" hands to his face" _
Beterbiev was taking those shots on the arms,you can only see from ringside.If it were a bareknuckle Bivol would have been ripped to shreds.The right man won.
But it's not Bareknuckle so kind of irrelevant...Bivol landed the cleaner shots Betebiev just threw shots all night hitting Bivols gloves and arms it was high high level fight and I believe Bivol avoided the monsters power for 12 rounds and landed some beautiful combos when going toe to toe with Betebiev I believe he edged it 7-5 but 8-4 Betebiev is scandalous
I thought a lot of Artur's work also hit Bivol's gloves. It was a tough fight to score but I thought a draw would have been a fair result personally.
Simon won’t agree with Eddie it could of gone the other way he still would have something to say
Bs
Artur was a wise old fox, nicked the majority of the swing rounds by finishing strong at the last 60 seconds of each round
I don’t want someone who runs around the ring, scared of trading and not standing his ground to become undisputed champion.
What do you think happens in the rematch, bivol would have to take more risks and that only favours beterbiev, I see a KO if they fight again
You know boxing is hit and don't get hit right? Mayweather was the master of it. You don't need to stand brawling to win a fight.
Beterbiev was throwing twice as many punches as Bivol yet he landed less, which means Bivol's defence must receive the plaudits. He also landed the more eye catching / cleaner shots in almost every round.
It’s not about what you want though,is it! You cretin!
Hit and don't get hit, is Boxing. A boxer who stands there are trades isn't a test of skill, it's testing chin Vs power, that's that slap competition, go watch that instead, you'll love it, but boxing is about moving and skill along with power and chin and heart and all that
@@Dailypaper.Most likely will go for the knockout
I have been watching Boxing for years and there are some absolute shocking decision which should have called for investigation - This is not one of them !!! Its a classic close fight between a slick boxer v come forward brawler.
If Eddie was representing Beterbiev he would say it’s a lopsided victory, you can’t trust that guy. He’s worried about Oscars next skit 😂
Yeah, he's lost credibility. Can't rely on him being factual, truthful. Can rely on him saying what helps him achieve his objectives.
There were moments when they were in the clinch, and Beterbiev had one hand free and was trying to work in the clinch, and the ref would separate right away. And people wonder why close distance fighting is dying... The ref was favoring Bivol all fight long. He kept warning Artur for everything but never once warned Bivol for stiff arming...
The 116 card gave beterbiev 1 more round than the other judge who gave it beterbiev, so i dont see how thats a wild card. Hearns a clown for making out that card was outlandish
Because only giving 4 rounds to Bivol is a scandal. It's literally giving Beterbiev every single benefit in every round.
@@davidt510 Lol… What are we doing, 1 swing round different to the other judge who also gave it Beterbiev and u guys want to call scandal 😂
Beterbiev won that clearly imo nothing controversial about it lol
You know nothing about boxing. To say he won by a slim margin. Sure. However to say he clearly won shows you don't understand the sport.
You're just waffling, it was tight and there's arguments both ways but to say it was clear is nonsense
You both need to stop crying 😢 beterbiev clearly won and in a rematch it will be even easier.
@@harrymail7Nonsense. It’s not always as clear cut as you make out. If it was then there wouldn’t be such a thing as subjective boxing and we wouldn’t need judges, it would purely be judged by stats
'clearly' LOL. it was as close as a fight can get you plank.
It was a close fight but Beterbiev won it fair and square. Stats dont lie:
1) Beterbiev threw twice the amount of punches bivol did
2) Beterbiev landed slightly more than bivol
3) Beterbiev was the aggressor and kept the pressure all the time
4) Beterbiev won the championship rounds
The stats show that Beterbiev was throwing twice as many punches yet only landed the same amount.
Which means Bivol was being defensively far better and evading/blocking the majority of what Beterbiev did.
Bivol landed the cleaner shots at a far higher percentage.
Thank you.
Even Arturs corner were telling him he needs a knockout because they knew he was losing
@@Kai-worldclass they didn’t want to lose the KO record 😂😂😂😂
Personally I think it was subjective fight that would of gone either way I didn’t a robbery here you couldn’t of argued if it went either way
Not sure I can remember a fight in recent memory to split opinion so much on who actually won it. It was Beterbiev for me, 7-5.
Beterbiev 7-5 for me personally. Commentary at DAZN was actually disgraceful. Brushing over anything beterbiev did and praised Bivol throughout the fight. The highlights in-between rounds were showing only Bivols good work. Clearly gave some people a false perception of the fight.
Ah yes because everybody sat ringside was listening to the DAZN commentary 🤡
@peep5118 when did everybody ringside give the fight to bivol? Gareth Davies, Spencer oliver, Richie Woodhall, etc all gave it to beterbiev. Nice try, though. And I didn't say there isn't a case for bivol winning tye fight, simply that to commentary was extremely one-sided. You clown 🤡
@@HassanKhan-dc2lr hearn said nobody for THEEE ROWS had it to butterbeer. Also Turki himself gave it to Bivol by two and he obviously knows what he’s on about. 🤡 🫵
Dazn does seem to be biased towards Hearn fighters
@@HassanKhan-dc2lrspencer oliver is clueless and so is gareth
Beterbiev swept the last 3 rounds. Bivol was in survival mode in round 10 until the last moments where he did land a good combo, but how can you give him the round for just one good moment? Round 11 is self-explanatory. In round 12, Bivol would flurry to try to keep Artur away, but he literally didn't land anything clean. Again, how can you give him the 12th when Artur was the one doing the damage and being the ring general? So unless you think Bivol won 7 of the first 9, idk how you can have Bivol winning the fight...
Pleasantly surprised looking at these comments, im glad people are seeing beyond the noise, beterbiev had control of this fight after round 3
Eddie should be cringing with the way he was carrying on after the fight. He will no doubt go to his default setting of claiming its passion to excuse the fact he was throwing a massive tantrum because a 50/50 didn't go his way.
Nothing has gone his way for months now !!! 😂😂😂
Beterbiev won the championship rounds which won him the fight but the 116-112 card was ridiculous!
Better fighter won its that simple .
Better boxer lost, what's the sport called again? Scored it a draw fwiw, wasn't a robbery.
There's was only 5 punches more landed over 12 rounds more power punches from beterbiev...aggression from beterbiev after round 3. Bivol was winning when controlling centre ring and conceded after round 3.
Beterbiev won
One judge was a little bit wrong but ultimately correct
In the last 3 rounds Bivol was constantly tying Beterbiev, pushing his head down during the clinch and even using a bit of headbutting. That sealed the deal for me, Bivol didn't want any of Beterbiev in the championship rounds.
This Keith guy what is he saying? "Anyone can be aggressive" aggressive pressure style is the most difficult thing to do in boxing.. it demands high stamina and endurance
@@craik7 anyone can be aggressive but not everyone can get away with it either without getting knocked out themselves 😂 your right being a pressure fighter takes a high level of skill it’s not a case of just throwing punches all over it’s an educated pressure not someone just swinging wildly
Totally agree with Simon. I didn't think it was a major shock or robbery. Hearn full of absolute nonsense just seeing the cash for the rematch
Bertebiev 7-5 no robbery Bivol ran back foot all fight every SINGLE round
Fury was fighting backfoot for most of the fight against usyk and was up on the scorecards until the knockdown 😅. Why has being elusive become something negative???
@@kylegill4932 He probably thinks De La Hoya and Pacquiao beat Mayweather.
It was a clear win by beterbiev 💯💯 beterbiev haters are sore loosers
If it was a clear win why did one have it a draw you tit
Stick to cricket mate. Wether you think beterbiev won or Bivol, there was no clear winner
STICK TO CRICKET
Stick to cricket
I mean Eddie Hearn thought madrimov beat Crawford and he thought Joshua would beat ruiz and dubois lol
Pre-fight predictions aren't the same as analysis of judges card.
Having madrimov beating Crawford isn't a bad take. Most people who watched it had it as a 50:50. Crawford struggled with that fight.
Madrimov lost fair and square. Bouncing up and down and not throwing anything does not win rounds
He’s there promoter what do you expect him to say before the fight? 😂
Haha exactly
Hearn is just spinning the narrative of robbery .
Teddy Atlas and Carl Frampton 7-5 to Beterbiev ,same as me and a lot of fans ,For me it was a massive tactical error on Bivols part.
he would rack up a points lead at start of the round then chill .
Then he would let Arthur gain momentum by throwing punches and coming forward for most of the round.
judges are harsh towards “negative” fighters who are moving a lot backwards.
Aim should be to dominate the rounds not just secure early part of them and back peddle like he was .
That’s where Bivol lost that fight .
It fet like bivol wilted by the end of every round even with better work.
Yeah I don't think it was a tactical mistake from Bivol, more like Beterbiev implementing his dominating style on Bivol.
It all comes down to what you prefer. I think holding centre is pointless if you being picked off on the outside. I think aggression doesn't outshine tactical evasion and slips. I don't think going balls out is wise; getting the round and then countering when opens present themselves is smart and as bivol is a purist not a brawn is better boxing. And when people say he hurt bivol, so, obviously the nature of the sport? You can get hit once and shaken and the other dude can get 50 point scoring points, who wins then? The pont l scorer, because that's the rules
@@georgeste you’re wrong , he wasn’t just “ holding the centre “ he was commanding the fight , putting Bivol under the cosh from round two .
From round two, Arthur was the only one applying effective aggression , which always suggests a position of dominance and ring generalship over Bivol .
Judges look for effective aggression, where the aggressor consistently controls where the fight leads to , especially American judges .
Imho there was times in that fight Bivol looked vulnerable to each Arthur attack ,like was capable of Arthur stopping him .
Now whether that was true or not, visually that’s how it looked to those judges.
Any person that calls that robbery must have a vested interest or agenda , or never watch the fight before and their life lol
116-112 is not that crazy of a scorecard at all. A close fight can have a scorecard of 116-112.
I had money on bivol, but beterbiev won that fight.
The judges on the sidelines can hear the punches and watch the boxer's expressions in a way that its not shown on tv
So when forest won Liverpool at anfield, so if Liverpool losing 1-0 and piling pressure, hitting the post and putting pressure on forest, with loads of possession, are we to say Liverpool won the game? If you're not landing in boxing, how do you win that fight?
Beterbiev clearly won eddie just likes to complain everytime his fighters loses in a close fight
Bivol was sleeping in the last 3 rounds he did absolutely nothing but run in them championship rounds.
The number of people sayif Bivol ran for 12 rounds.....to anyone saying that, go watch that slap competition instead. Boxing is aboit moving and hitting your opponent and not being hit yourself. Bivol's artistry was incredible. His movement, blocking with gloves, was just brilliant.
I did score it as a draw, but 116-112 is just impossible to get to unless you don't know the rules
Couldn't agree more.
He was being walked down for 12 rounds and was afraid to engage except in short flurries which would half land. He just did an interview where he says the same -he was afraid of being knocked out. Or maybe you know more than he does? People/judges don't like negative fighters. Judges score aggression, ring generalship and damage. Beterbiev was better in all three. Beterbiev threw >1000 punches and outworked Bivol. This is not the amateurs where you are trying to score points; this is the undisputed championship FFS - I wouldn't want to crown a coward as an undisputed champion.
@@michaelmjack3336 so is Sugar Ray Leonard a “coward” for the way he defeated Roberto Duran in their second fight?
It's amazing how Bivol opted to use his face to stop the onslaught of punches....strange tactics indeed 😂
@@michaelmjack3336 yup, and they ignored the guy that landed more punches, with more skill. Beterbiev had more aggression. Bivol had more skills. It's a sport not a street fight. Skills has always got to be the most important thing in sport
Simon disagreeing with Eddie? That's a surprise
Cry more
Eddie should try this, think before you make a statement because you’re reputation is definitely on the line not only as a man but also as a promoter.
Why does Adam Smith insist on mispronouncing Beterbiev’s name? He absolutely must know he’s saying it wrong, so why does he stick to it?
There are all sorts of problems and inaccuracies with 'punch stats'...e.g. If a fighter throws a feint or dummy punch it will be counted by computer or button presser as a 'miss'...but in reality it is a deliberate skill to manipulate or trick the opponent. Similar, a fighter may paw out with a range finder to measure the opponent's distance, again this will be recorded as a 'miss', when it isn't a miss at all, it is just simply lining up an opponent or pretending to, while something else goes on. And there area ll sorts of jabs, hooks, straights, uppercuts and crosses...they are not all of same skill, difficulty and effect, they vary greatly. Sometimes throwing and landing a particular type of punch maybe in fact a mistake in boxing terms and show lack of skill and poor tactics. It isn't maths or a game of tag, like 1+1=2. There are lots of nuances and lots of skills on display, lots of tactics, techniques and there is no accurate or fair way to measure them or quantify them against each other. Close fights of clashing styles and tactics will always be debatable. If both fighters land the same but another threw a lot more, you can say one has been more efficient and accurate, but you can the other has been more aggressive and some of those extra shots may have been tactical, punch stats and video replays etc can never reconcile or solve those sort of things. What about three little tippy-tappy jabs at close range, from an extended arm, barely travelling any distance on an unguarded, opponent as opposed to one fast and strong jab landing through a guard on a mobile, elusive opponent (however, those three little jabs could be part of a tactic or diversion)...or a jab that was set up by feints or superior movement etc... So many complexities, only idiots reduce this to punches landed etc. Fighting and boxing are much more complex than that.
I like artur but hitting the post doesn't mean you have scored a goal bivol landed the cleaner SHOTs and showed a great defence
Clean shots with no conviction, never going to win walking backwards and tippy tapping .
it’s laughable people saying bivol ran for 12 rounds it was a highly skilled fight thought bivol nicked it
The score cards be damned
Bivol is an -ULTIMATE WARRIOR- the same as Beterbiev .
He fought bravely most of the fight but In the end chose to cover up and run 🐔and hopefully win by points for fear the man in front of him. He realized it after the fact reason why he said " I could have done more."
I don't blame him but I'm no boxer .
If he get's the chance once more to unify any weight class.
He should stand there in front of his opponent and demand to be victorious.
The way Beterbiev clearly did.
For people who actually score each round and add up the total then it’s obvious that Bivol won it by 2 rounds.
True. Artur and his team knew this at the end of the fight
Utter nonsense.
I say
The score cards be damned
Bivol is an -ULTIMATE WARRIOR- the same as Beterbiev .
He fought bravely most of the fight but In the end chose to cover up and run 🐔and hopefully win by points for fear the man in front of him. He realized it after the fact reason why he said " I could have done more."
I don't blame him but I'm no boxer .
If he get's the chance once more to unify any weight class.
He should stand there in front of his opponent and demand to be victorious.
The way Beterbiev clearly did.
You mean people like the judges? I wonder who they gave the win to?🤔
I thought it was a close fight. Definitely not a robbery.
Had the fight got any longer Beterbiev would have knocked Bivol out
Artur won this fight. The unified champ put his three belts on the line yes he fought safely because a lot at stake and deservedly Undisputed Champ. Bivol should have tried harder and convinced judges that Canello's fight wasn't a fluke. Bivols team is a sore loser's you should be thankful that in boxing no round13 because bivol was wash up and ready for KO. In the rematch, he will be KO by Artur the King.
Very close fight 100% not a robbery Eddie Hearn is twisted.
It wasn’t a robbery but the scorecard that only gave Bivol 4 rounds was a disgrace because the man outboxed Beterbiev all night both with his defence & attack.
He outboxed him all night for 50 percent of the fight!
he did NOT outbox Beterbiev all night, you are blind or clueless on boxing and fighting.
So the card that gave him 4 rounds is a “disgrace” but u ok with the card that gave him 5 rounds? Is 1 round the difference between an acceptable card and a “disgrace” 😂
@@djn1856 a close fight sends fans into meltdown lol.
@@ZaydDepaorbivol beat him up. Artur and his team knew this as bivols team knew theyd one. Pressing forward doesnt score points hitting the target does. Bivol hit the target all night. Artur knows he lost
had Bivol winning by one round.
You would love marathon running 🏃🏾♂️
The score cards be damned
Bivol is an -ULTIMATE WARRIOR- the same as Beterbiev .
He fought bravely most of the fight but In the end chose to cover up and run 🐔and hopefully win by points for fear the man in front of him. He realized it after the fact reason why he said " I could have done more."
I don't blame him but I'm no boxer .
If he get's the chance once more to unify any weight class.
He should stand there in front of his opponent and demand to be victorious.
The way Beterbiev clearly did.
Theres more of a case for the 116-112 scorecard than there is for a Bivol victory😂people dont know boxing and to use the word robbery is embarrassing.
Simon Jordan disagrees with Eddie Hearn. Shock horror.
I'm sick to death of Eddie Hearn he's becoming bad for boxing , firstly he accuses beterbiev of being arrogant , why cause he dosnt talk crap ,throw tables, and hit other fighters . Then he screams it's a cheat and bivol robbed , no Eddie it was a draw at best for Bivol , he was terrified to fight ,he knew he would get knocked out , but Bivol was great he fought how he had too to survive and win if he could , betwrbiev will knock him out next time
And for me beterbiev wasn't on top form cause he was drained from all the media ,stupid questions, interviews ,drained him . He and other fighters aren't there to do promotion and learn talking absolute rubbish
I wanted bivol to win , but it was draw at best for him ,he fought clever but scared .
Hearn is losing big fight after big fight ,and Frank Warren is clearly a better promoter than hearn , hearn pushes fighters like Benn and he is an embarrassment to the sport ,a cheat ,and talking pure filth on great night in Saudi, Hearn is on his way out slowly of the game ,and gd he's become a joke
Eddie thought Hype job Joshua was going to knock out Dubois had the ref not counted him out...😂? Captain bullshit Hearns is at it again . !
Bivol was hurt at least twice and never put a dent literally or figuratively in Beterbiev as for the art of boxing Bivol is highly skilled but no Ray Leonard
Hearn to me is the Vince McMann of boxing, he always wants everything his way, like even AJ rematch for another title shot coming off a Knockout loss is against IBF rules, according to Billy Nelson, Martin Bekole's Trainer, and I think they've be telling the truth all the time, but people are silly enough to listen to big mouth Hearn.
I thought the same but their contract was already drawn up before Dubois was levelled up to IBF champion which would probably stand ahead of IBF ruling
Eddie is embarrasing himself again
Beterbiev he won the fight he should get more respect. It’s no robbery.
If only Hearn was singing the same tune when Loma whooped his boy Haney & got stiffed out of the Undisputed.. hypocrite 😂
At the end of the day Bivol just looked more scared in there and was running away most of the fight. I am sure he can fight better but this night he wasnt better. He was too scared of getting KOed the whole fight and really had no proper plan how to deal with someone pressuring him. Its not a style, Bivol was scared to engage. Also exposed the fact he cant fight on the inside. There were many occasions he could have threw an uppercut when he was close. I wasnt too impressed with Beterbiev either, he had no real aggressive moments in there and kinda cruised in same energy the whole fight despite the fact he looked like he could KO Bivol. Would have loved a draw but in all fairness it wasnt. It also shuldnt have been a majority but split decision but either way Beterbiev was better. Threw more, looked more dangerous and did more damage in the end. Isnt that what boxing is about? Even Bivol admitted he wasnt his best in this fight and Artur deserved the win. These promotors are getting annoying always creating drama.
People who are easily influenced will of scored it bivol, people who know the fight game will of clearly seen betebiev was beating bivol up
That’s why his own team thought he had lost
@@waynejones8358They didn’t.
Bivol won that fight without a doubt. What Simon knows about boxing you can write on a napkin.
Smith raises a good point accidentally there
I really think those to would be PERFECTLY suited to a 15 round fight.
Another 3 rounds in the fight would’ve concluded in a more certain result maybe. They are certainly FIT enough to do it
Just huge respect between fighters ... Beterbiev and bivol ... But others are making nonsense comments
Watched it thrice. Beterbiev 116-112. Beterbiev was just stealing rounds at the end and killing bivol.
I’ve seen a picture of Bivols left hand today. It’s swelled to twice the normal size. Most of beterbievs shots were glove shots.
Bivol ran away the whole fight?!
That’s Bivol style, hit and not get hit ?
Pretty much but more so in the later rounds.
The score cards be damned
Bivol is an -ULTIMATE WARRIOR- the same as Beterbiev .
He fought bravely most of the fight but In the end chose to cover up and run 🐔and hopefully win by points for fear the man in front of him. He realized it after the fact reason why he said " I could have done more."
I don't blame him but I'm no boxer .
If he get's the chance once more to unify any weight class.
He should stand there in front of his opponent and demand to be victorious.
The way Beterbiev clearly did.
@@colinsaysithowitis1844 No it isn't - Bivol was scared to engage. Look At Bivol's fights before typing another word.
@@michaelmjack3336 seen them all ? That’s his aim And he has said it many times he doesn’t want to get here use the skills to stay away and then make them pay
@@michaelmjack3336 Read that before you type another word
Betterbiev won for me, I think 4 points was a big margin but I had it 2-3 points
Bivol had on his tracksuit the whole night
There is no basis for which to make any argument that Bivol won. 😂😂.
The best was I heard this fight put was from teddy altas ……. Called it this generations Leonard vs hagler
Beterviev won. Watch the fight again without the drunk commentators and sound. The blame is on every single prediction being about Beterviev only winning by a ko and Bivol by a decision, so people just cannot comprehend Beterviev winning a decision now, which is lame and an emotional experience itself for the fans and so-called experts...
Eddie loves a rematch
I agree. Beterbiev 7-5
No it wasn’t a robbery, but the judge who score 8-4 was clearly not fit to judge a fight
Artur won the middle and end rounds. Artur has now ended three of eddies fighers
Stop with the click bate Simon and eddys getting into it.
It wasn’t a barn burner because Bivol didn’t want to??
What’s that got to do with anything Bivol boxed because it’s a boxing match not a fight😂😂😂😂
While watching the fight live ,TNT commentator and his co commentator both had beterbive winning the fight comfortably, the professional boxers in the studio had him winning comfortably, i don't know what the fuss is about,
The reason his corner was disappointing at the end was because for once he hasn't had a knock out.
I think we should have a period where 3 judges judge at ring side and 3 in a room and see how different they are and see if its the way to do it, because watching it at home you clearly see more and from a level viewing angle and not diagonally and looking through ropes. Maybe it turns out that tv style is the more accurate way, because its nearly every fight where there is somthing
Beterbiev v Bivol was brilliant and captivating and i cant wait for the rematch because i Love both guys
Beterbiev won the fight 7-5 or 8-4.
Wasnt even that close.
Bivol is still undefeated imo. He was robbed by the judges.
@@davidpark2509lol, is your opinion on boxrec
@@davidpark2509 cope
@@davidpark2509😂😂robbed???
@@davidpark2509 😂😂😂😂
Adam is 💯 right Bivol won
This was like Leonard Hagler, but Bivol landed less than Sugar Ray did
People to quick to scream ROBBERY!!! These days. Was not a robbery atall. I thought right man won by 1 round. But would not of disagreed it went other way by a round
Bivol outclased him defence and offence. Artur and his team know as we saw at the end of the fight. They knew theyd lost.
The result wasn't too controversial, it was the scorecards that were way off. I thought Bivol just edged it, but I could see an argument for Beterbiev. It would be just as controversial if Bivol got the nod, and the scorecards were the same, but reversed.
The rules are connected punches to head or body get points , not punches to the gloves
It wasn’t a robbery.
I thought Bivol was the winner by two rounds, but I wouldn’t have been surprised if it ended up a draw.
But having said that, the 116-112 score for Beterbiev was a joke.
They need a clear scoring system, there's like 6 categories that boxing is judged on and they need to agree on a weighting
40% punches landed
30% damage done
20% ring generalship
10% defence
Whatever those % are is irrelevant they just need it consistent. Something a bit more thought out than I've done above there would help. Could even be variations sometimes as long as the fighters know where the goalposts are
Damage done should always be number one.
For Bivol fans:
99% Running scared (extra credit if you can convince people that this is 'footwork')
1% Pitty pat flurries
the phone guy at the end was bang on apart from end score
Judges should watch on a tv in a private room they don’t really see what’s going on they don’t see if shots land or when they hit the gloves
I hope Simon Jordan talk's about Ben Whittaker quitting or is that not allowed because he's a Boxxer fighter
Bivol won by 2 rounds I thought
i had it Beterbiev by 3-4 rounds, a lot were difficult to judge as were close or drawn, some could go either way...but there was no robbery all judges score cards were credible.
Putting the fights to one side I have to say I have seen more atmosphere in a graveyard. Seriously, there was hardly anyone there for some of the fights. Even the Beterbiev v Bivol fight you could hear a pin drop. Props to the Saudis for these fights but my days, it's like going to a funeral.
Even on a re run. I don't think Bivol beats Berterbiev. And that's becos of his aggressive attack.
FFS - Bertebiev won that fight he smashed him up
Regardless of how it was scored Bivol still lost . Surely you can't win a fight on the retreat for 12 rounds.
When has he ever AGREED 😂😂😂. Simon knows jack all about boxing yet here he is talking
Wasn't a robbery, I thought Bivol won it, but I had a little bundle on Beterbiev. Could have went either way I suppose but this is where we get to the point of judges needing to explain their cards.