Station Timestamps 0:00: Gare Centrale 7:20: Île-des-Sœurs 12:50: Panama 16:55: Du Quartier 19:45: Brossard (terminus) 22:20: Du Quartier 26:15: Panama 31:45: Île-des-Sœurs 39:00: Gare Central (fin)
I can't stand how the media is covering the few minor glitches that have occurred - they run with the worse quotes from people like "It's a disgrace!" or "I'll stick with my car!". They never quote anyone who has an optimistic opinion on the issues nor do they explain that these are minor glitches that will be caught and worked out in the coming weeks. It's infuriating because this bad messaging only discourages people to use the service.
A radio station did a 30 minutes segment on the Ottawa train and were making (up) parallel with the REM at every occasion. They then interviewed someone who kept saying that despite the delay they had a great time and the interviewer was trying to make them say "how bad was it"? Very frustrating I agree!
Here's hoping that the success of the REM will be the turning point for the REM de l'est and the people demanding the service outweigh those that protested against the system
@@ThisWontFly , testing will never cover all the real world scenarios but the lessons learned will be invaluable to improved budgeting and engineering for future projects.
@@test40323 My comment wasn't about testing, but about forming political opinion so strong that a project that should never have been abandoned will be reconsidered.
So what about the tourists who visit this province? They more than likely can't speak french or read french. So it would be helpful to them not only common courtesy to have the signs and announcements in both languages and it isn't going to endanger the french language one bit to do so. The language laws are doing more harm to the people of quebec by fear mongering in oder to protect the french language. You want to preserve the french language? Then start having children and passing the language and culture down to them not by passing petty draconian language laws.@@theflash9068
I like the idea of adding that small "musical" tone when doors are opening and closing. It seems kind of inspired from Japan, and adds more accessibility for those who can't see the doors opening or closing without beeing aggressive to ears.
It's just that the Americas have some sort of strong fear of foreign standards. Like if there is no standard door closing sound yet, then please use one from for example European standards. It will only make things easier for everyone!
@@jan-lukas I am not sure it was the point here. The REM is really European and really standardised in its conception (I'm European). It is very similar to what Grand Paris Express will be. This "innovation" (I'm not sure it can be called like that) may be adopted elsewhere depending on the returns.
@@jan-lukas The only place where the door closing sound is standardised is on the general railway network but isolated ones (like tramways and metros) still come with their own sound so don't claim everything in the matter of railways Europe is standardised!
@@MarioFanGamer659new trains here in Germany often follow the mainline rail standard even for metro or Stadtbahn systems. And having it standardized just makes it much easier for blind people, they don't need to learn the new sounds every time
The first few minutes reminds me of the elevated Stadtbahn in Berlin (especially the Alexanderplatz - Bellevue segment), with the two northern tracks devoted to the S-Bahn and the southern tracks for the regional rail, particularly as it passes so close to the buildings. Montreal is really building a nice system for itself. I hope the rest of the network manages to open on time. Thanks for posting this - I can pretend I'm in Montreal!
You are correct however the announcements are different because in Berlin both S-Bahn & Regional Bahn run by Deutsche Bahn Ingo Ruff Stimme, which makes them exactly the same S-Bahn Dresden Rhein-Main München Hamburg & Rhein-Ruhr systems announcements.
@@RMTransitthey will increase speed over time delhi airport metro express change speed years on same infrastructure 4 times 80 to 90 then 110 then 120 lol
God bless Montreal. I watch this with SO MUCH ENVY from Toronto. The GO Transit system (while impressive) is so alienating and earth-crust-heavy. Whereas this tiny REM contraption is so intimate and small and simple. Montreal and Vancouver are truly big towns made for people, made for good living. Toronto is unliveable, it often feels.
Are they running the REM a little slower than its full potential speeds for now? That wouldn't surprise me with a new system as it comes online. I also wouldn't be surprised if it's just a wide angle perspective playing with the sense of speed.
I get out work early on Fridays. So I bought an AB ticket to take a spin on the REM. I was at the open house, but couldn't get the premium spot in front. I did yesterday! Saw exactly what Reece did here.
this, the vancouver skytrain video, and the DLR are some of my favorite videos to watch. I love seeing the different cities and the pov of the train is so cool to me. gives lots of inspiration for my own cities (minecraft/city skylines)
@@RMTransit It seemed fast to me. I watched it on the first day of service, so maybe something changed. Any guesses as to how long it'll take for them to switch to fast speeds?
Great video. It looks like an awesome metro line. I assume all the stations are accessible. If that would be great as Montreal was lacking accessible metro stations at one time.
8:21 love how the VMS sign says (in english) 'Welcome - to REM users on [the] Samuel de Champlain Bridge' and one time where English is used on road signs in Quebec. I assume the train travels at 80 km/h as thats the speed limit on the bridge for road traffic. For mainline rail however, mph is used.
It supposedly travels at 100 km/h on the bridge but I'm not sure if it's running at full speeds yet. It would be nice to see a cab view video like this with a speedometer overlay so we can see how fast the trains really go.
@@joelfrigon-henrichon5696 Right. On a good sunny days it's perfectly safe to drive a bit faster and it's generally tolerated as long as you aren't zipping dangerously through traffic.
@@OliversElevators Also, the speed feels slow on camera. I think it feels faster as a passenger than as a driver. Cant say if the drivers on the bridge are over the speed limit. Just need to calculate the distance and the time.
@@neonhills to be clear I’m not defending the behaviour. This is just how it is. Drivers in Montreal tend to completely disregard 80 km/h and 70 km/h and drive 90 to 110 in them. They also tend to pack less that a car length between vehicles which is far more dangerous at those speeds.
I hope they have as much waiting time as is necessary to reduce delays to a minimum. These artificial waits have a really good reason. Though an automated line can turn around directly without waiting at all, yeah
Sorry, probably you don't mean that! Maybe the raised walkway grating? I was wondering about that too. Of course the trains are high floor, so for evacuation purposes they need a raised platform, but I don't recall seeing so much space below on other systems. Maybe it's just an artifact of the guideway support engineering. Montreal gets a lot of snow though; maybe it's for that.
Just a question on price. Is it a flat fee regardless of where you get on or off the line? Because I figured that charging based on the distance between stations would be impractical since there is no way to control how long a passenger stays on the train.
While I understand putting the tracks on the highway median... Putting the stations there is just bad. (Yes, stations go where track is but you know what I mean.)
I get that accessing the station might be a pain in the rear, but the station itself isn't that bad, as the platform screen doors block out most of the noise.
In an ideal world, trains and tracks shouldn't go with highways. But this setup with REM and the highway system is not bad. Plus, I love trains riding along a majestic bridge.
I just wish that the bus terminal and rem station had an enclosed passage like at longeuil metro. That tunnel into the station will be a wind tunnel in the winter
I wonder why Brossard's third track diverges before the switch between main tracks. Doesn't that effectively make the third platform impossible to arrive at from the Du Quartier direction? 🤔
Yes, but thats because its for trains heading south, so each side is accessible by the north or south track and the middle from both! Many trains will also travel beyond the station and come back, which means access to the third track too.
Thanks man. That's what I was going to do for real. Not any more. One thing that strike me is how ugly it is going to and in the south shore is. Highways, constructions sites, empty terrains, parking lots, train tracks, sparse vegetation, etc... I will pass on this leg of the network. Hopefully there is better views going to the west island part.
I've only seen the infrastructure from the outside. I saw the access points on the bridge, but couldn't think of their purpose. Looks like retarders in a couple of inclines?? Gare Centrale to Île des Soeurs in the morning would be a good time for railfans. VIA, exo, the Pointe-Saint-Charles switcher and the container train leaving the Port Of Montreal.
My assumption is that they are running the trains slower so they make sure that everything is reliable. Because at some sections it seems to me that the train could go faster.
I'm a full time student at McGill from the Brossard who used to take rush hour busses that go downtown to get to class. I tested commute times and found out that I'd have to leave home 10 minutes earlier than I usually do to get to class on time due to the removal of busses that go to Montreal, since they got replaced by the REM. The REM has no competition, therefore no incentive to improve or maintain its services other than public backlash. We need to hold them accountable for their mistakes, unlike most of the people who I see in the comments who aren't locals and won't be punished by the consequences of a REM failure.
I think a GoPro might risk getting ripped off when the train enters a station because of the close clearance between the side of the train and the platform screen doors.
@@andrewpagan I know, I've seen it. It works in SF because BART doesn't have platform screen doors so there's no close clearance between the train and anything on the platforms. The same cannot be said about the REM.
I used to live in Montréal in 2013 and it has changed so much! Would love to go back and visit. Is the REM slow or is that just how it looks in the video?
@cybotnic89 Montreal has changed so much, and for the better this is true. I'm living in Toronto since 2012, and I miss Montreal these days. With working from home, many people have this fantasy of moving to Montreal now! Le télé-travail rend les choses plus possibles!
I'm not sure but this seems pretty slow. For example from 9:30 to 11:00 the train has a long stretch of straight track ahead of it and still the cars are faster. You already lose time going to and from transit stops, so the ride itself should at least be faster than in a car.
it work like metro de montreal, a car on highway is faster than train and metro but what with congestion on highway or bad weather or when worker need to repair the road ? and train and metro dont need to stop at stop sign or red light or because the driver ahead you want to turn, but cant because car or people, driving in montreal can be sometime or too much messy because that so with train it is just you avoid red light, stop sign, other drivers, valerie plante going into derp mode so currently we are in vacance du travail, it is in 1 week and especially in september we will see who is faster train or car
@@vkobevk Also in the normal (non summer) traffic the bridge can have jams as early as 13:00. Not to mention that the train is at speed all the way to central station. In a car everything comes to a screeching halt has soon as you turn off of Robert-Bourassa BLVD.
@@vkobevk I hope you're right because that would be great for the train. I do hope that they will speed it up tho, because faster travel times are always a good thing and running it with the current speeds would be a bit of a missed opportunity.
@@rozt107 Well. If you think Montreal is hard, come to my place... I am close to New York and if you followed the news... You would know it's even harder in my place...
REM has just been launched and this video already represents exactly what Montreal is like. The mix of French and English you hear everywhere you go is amazing in this city.
I find it can it be speed up more? Like 100km or 120 km especailly a lot of the lines two extremities are very far away and for now the downtown core stastion density can support that speed as well at least for the next 5 years even 10.
That's true, while you can get on the main floor of central station from the REM in an elevator, If you would want to go to the orange line, you would most likely have to go outdoor and go true 1000 de la gauchetière, they have an Elevator from the main, floor to the métro line,
@RMTransit: I must say that, for a brand-new transit system, REM's automated trains are traveling at a rather LEISURELY pace. Perhaps it's because the system is SO new that it must first be completely "broken in" before the trains can be allowed to run at higher speeds. Better to be safe than sorry. Clearly they need to fine-tune their station-announcement system - "Panama" mentioned twice when the station after it should have been announced as, "Du Quartier." As it stands, the REM is barely competitive with automobile travel, as can plainly be seen from its trains as they cross the St. Lawrence River alongside the highway bridge, where cars are regularly outpacing the train. Thank you for sharing with us viewers your front-window-view ride along this first-to-be-opened section of REM's new network. Very nicely done. I am curious - were there any on-board train staff?
Reminder that front-view cameras always tend to fool you when it comes to speed. As do parallel angles (front or rear facing). It's important to look at the edges of the screen to gauge the actual speed.
@@MrAronymous This reminds me on the experience of taking a metro as a user (i.e. looking to the sides) and watching cab views of the same line; one grants a much better sense of speed than the other.
i remind you we are in vacance de la construction, we will see in one week or in september also even the old train de banlieue was faster than car to go to downtown when you live in montreal suburban area so try to beat train when your car is stuck in congestion or must to deal with red light, stop sign, other driver, people on the street and people on their bicycle
The thing is its a mix, when theres congestion the train wins, and they were going faster when testing! Speed is also not the only factor, of course they should be as fast as possible.
It does look nice. It seems weird, though, that they don't have the recorded station announcements right on a brand new train. It's also a bit odd that aside from the stations and which side the doors open, there's no announcements at all.
too bad I have whatsapp and Telegram BUT not anyother that you use. I had a great picture of the development of the Panama REM station that the Brossard city has divulged that will become the new city center
I read that the average speed of the new REM is 50kmh per hour, and that the REM can only reach its top speed of 100km/h on the Champlain bridge exclusively.... To be honnest a 50 km/h average speed is really disappointing considering how much money went into this new modern transit project.
What did you expect?? Like obviously an urban transit project will have a lower average speed because it has to stop at stations. That requires slowing down.
@@justsamoo3480the thing is, when you're accelerating uniformly from 0 to 100 or decelerating from 100 to 0 your average speed in just that time frame is 50km/h. So a total average speed of 50km/h means that this train either accelerates to 100km/h and then immediately starts decelerating, or that it doesn't actually reach 100km/h consistently
do you want do same judgement with car, because i doubt too than your car average speed is over 50 km/h on montreal street, except if you are lucky enough to only encounter green light, avoid stop sign and other cars ahead you that wait to turn 😊 or you only drive on montreal street at 3h am 😊
@@vkobevk The thing is that the REM is built on a track dedicated to REM trains. Which means REM trains basically have their own private highway, so it doesn't need compete stop at any lights or compete with traffic other than basic stops at REM stations. Looking at this video and seeing the train getting passed by average traffic on the highway is not going to convince people with cars to take the REM except in during rush hour traffic. Most people value time more than anything else. People with cars will chose the REM if it's faster than their car to execute their daily routine. But if it's not, or if they feel like it's not much of an improvement they'll chose their car. It's as simple as that.
@@neonhills well the true fun will begin in few days or better in september with montreal road management under our mayor miss cone orange valerie plante, what i see rem brossard to downtown is 20 minutes we will see with car if you can do brossard to downtown in 20 minutes 😊
With that type of stop spacing you should seriously invest into faster trains, being slower than the cars on the highway in moderate traffic is a really bad sign. Traveling by rail always has a longer distance to cover accessing the station, so to be competitive in travel times you need to be faster than the cars! This is why HSR needs to be that fast and why express metros run with over 100km/h all over the world, but not the REM apparently.
I was going to say the same. I don’t want to be a nay-sayer because this is such a big step. BUT, if you’re going to invest this much in design and infrastructure, to not be able to exceed 100 km/h is underwhelming and disappointing. I’m sure it will still be far more time and cost efficient for lots of people, but imagine even how much better it could be?
Could be worse. The Alstom Metropolis is also used on Singapore MRT and there they're limited at 90km/h. On the Paris metro, these same model of trains (called MF01) runs at 70km/h. Although, hopefully they'll be able to upgrade the system to be able to run at the 120km/h that the trains are designed for.
I’m seeing an accordion effect in the highway speeds. Perhaps people are exceeding the speed limit at times. Also, is it possible that train speeds are limited for a time period due to the system being new? EDIT: Yes, highway traffic is definitely faster in the second half of the video.
REM maximum speed is 100km/h which is very correct for an express metro. I don't know if it gets there during the video however. There is maybe a reason for it. Camera effect may also make the ride look slower than it is in real life.
@@equilat It is not about perceived speed. Cars are passing the train in the second half of the video; in the first half there is a back and forth. The cars may also be exceeding the speed limit at times. I’m not sure if there is enough speed difference to affect door to door times.
My biggest reason why I don’t like automated transit. It’s always so slow. None of that is at 100kph... And all of that to keep the system running with the correct interval, like just make the trains stop a bit longer or shorter at the stations. You can shave off like 2 or 4 min just by speeding up, that matters to some people.
I sincerely hate the disembodied, lifeless voice announcements. I know people like that she's the daughter of the original metro voice and all but the result is horrendous.
Station Timestamps
0:00: Gare Centrale
7:20: Île-des-Sœurs
12:50: Panama
16:55: Du Quartier
19:45: Brossard (terminus)
22:20: Du Quartier
26:15: Panama
31:45: Île-des-Sœurs
39:00: Gare Central (fin)
The announcement at Panama says the next station is Panama 🤦🏻♂️
Gare Centrale to Île-des-Sœurs being 7min20s is just a far to long time imo
@@jan-lukasThey are building another station in between but construction hasn't really started yet.
@@jan-lukas Too bad Griffintown in between was not open in time.
Thank you! Pinned!
I can't stand how the media is covering the few minor glitches that have occurred - they run with the worse quotes from people like "It's a disgrace!" or "I'll stick with my car!". They never quote anyone who has an optimistic opinion on the issues nor do they explain that these are minor glitches that will be caught and worked out in the coming weeks. It's infuriating because this bad messaging only discourages people to use the service.
A radio station did a 30 minutes segment on the Ottawa train and were making (up) parallel with the REM at every occasion. They then interviewed someone who kept saying that despite the delay they had a great time and the interviewer was trying to make them say "how bad was it"? Very frustrating I agree!
It’s all sensationalist media designed to get an emotional reaction. REM isn’t going to go the way of the O-Train. REM is already leagues above
@@predarek The REM has to fail 75 more times to be close to approximating the (un)moving disaster that is the O-Train!
North Americans and Australians are by nature less tolerant to transit glitches than Europeans and Asians because they CAN stick with cars!
@@obroni REM has failed 5 times in 3 days so far, not much longer before it will match the disastrous O-Train.
I sincerely hope the success of REM will become a model for future projects across Canadian cities.
Here's hoping that the success of the REM will be the turning point for the REM de l'est and the people demanding the service outweigh those that protested against the system
@@ThisWontFly , testing will never cover all the real world scenarios but the lessons learned will be invaluable to improved budgeting and engineering for future projects.
Lol
@@test40323 My comment wasn't about testing, but about forming political opinion so strong that a project that should never have been abandoned will be reconsidered.
American cities too (fingers crossed 🤞🏿)
It's impressive how much Caroline Dhavernas sounds like her mother; the announcements in the REM are almost indistinguishable from the metro!
Yeah haha, its lovely!
It;s a shame they don't make announcements in both official languages.
@@oldgordo61 Because we are in Québec, the only official language is french. This is provincial infrastructure. Not federal .
So what about the tourists who visit this province? They more than likely can't speak french or read french. So it would be helpful to them not only common courtesy to have the signs and announcements in both languages and it isn't going to endanger the french language one bit to do so. The language laws are doing more harm to the people of quebec by fear mongering in oder to protect the french language. You want to preserve the french language? Then start having children and passing the language and culture down to them not by passing petty draconian language laws.@@theflash9068
@@RMTransitcould you make a video about Toulouse Line A metro?
Considering this is the fourth REM video in a week, I think it’s safe to say that Reece likes this project, just maybe though😂
I do
I like the idea of adding that small "musical" tone when doors are opening and closing. It seems kind of inspired from Japan, and adds more accessibility for those who can't see the doors opening or closing without beeing aggressive to ears.
It's just that the Americas have some sort of strong fear of foreign standards. Like if there is no standard door closing sound yet, then please use one from for example European standards. It will only make things easier for everyone!
@@jan-lukas I am not sure it was the point here. The REM is really European and really standardised in its conception (I'm European). It is very similar to what Grand Paris Express will be. This "innovation" (I'm not sure it can be called like that) may be adopted elsewhere depending on the returns.
@@jan-lukas The only place where the door closing sound is standardised is on the general railway network but isolated ones (like tramways and metros) still come with their own sound so don't claim everything in the matter of railways Europe is standardised!
@@MarioFanGamer659new trains here in Germany often follow the mainline rail standard even for metro or Stadtbahn systems. And having it standardized just makes it much easier for blind people, they don't need to learn the new sounds every time
not gonna lie that Beep is pretty damn loud when the doors are cloosing
The first few minutes reminds me of the elevated Stadtbahn in Berlin (especially the Alexanderplatz - Bellevue segment), with the two northern tracks devoted to the S-Bahn and the southern tracks for the regional rail, particularly as it passes so close to the buildings. Montreal is really building a nice system for itself. I hope the rest of the network manages to open on time. Thanks for posting this - I can pretend I'm in Montreal!
Berlin is definitely a place I have to go!
You are correct however the announcements are different because in Berlin both S-Bahn & Regional Bahn run by Deutsche Bahn Ingo Ruff Stimme, which makes them exactly the same S-Bahn Dresden Rhein-Main München Hamburg & Rhein-Ruhr systems announcements.
13:10 ah yes, the troll announcement. Sometimes it happens here in the Paris metro and I love to see confused tourists' faces
Very strange!
@@RMTransitthey will increase speed over time delhi airport metro express change speed years on same infrastructure 4 times 80 to 90 then 110 then 120 lol
God bless Montreal. I watch this with SO MUCH ENVY from Toronto. The GO Transit system (while impressive) is so alienating and earth-crust-heavy. Whereas this tiny REM contraption is so intimate and small and simple. Montreal and Vancouver are truly big towns made for people, made for good living. Toronto is unliveable, it often feels.
A REM video a day keeps the doctor away
It would be much better to be in Montréal to actually ride the Réseau Express Métropolitan.
@@martincruz8319 If only I had the time or cash
Thats right!
I love the Rem thank you for the video
Thank you for watching!
Honestly, some of the best rail I've seen, and it's on a North American city, which aren't known for their good transit systems. Kudos!
Are they running the REM a little slower than its full potential speeds for now? That wouldn't surprise me with a new system as it comes online. I also wouldn't be surprised if it's just a wide angle perspective playing with the sense of speed.
Yes afaik
Wish they ran it at max speed
That makes sense. I was wondering why it was so painfully slow, especially during the long straight segments.
It seems to be going faster now
I get out work early on Fridays. So I bought an AB ticket to take a spin on the REM. I was at the open house, but couldn't get the premium spot in front. I did yesterday! Saw exactly what Reece did here.
Outstanding video Reese!! I am so impressed with this new Montreal REM!! Cheers!! 🙂
I had expected that the REM would go faster on the straightaways than the cars on the highway
100%
Yeah, it's painfully slow on the video.
At the beginning, between the density of the city and the French announcements, it genuinely looks like we are in Paris!
this, the vancouver skytrain video, and the DLR are some of my favorite videos to watch. I love seeing the different cities and the pov of the train is so cool to me. gives lots of inspiration for my own cities (minecraft/city skylines)
Great looking ride. A train going around curves without making a bunch of obnoxious noise. That must be nice.*Stares accusingly at the Ottawa LRT*
Excellent video. Keep up the good work!
Great ride even watching on RUclips. The RMT is the future now.
Merci ! Nice ride !!!
I wonder if something like the rem would work in Las Vegas.
Oh definitely.
of course, but its not in the culture in USA, cars are king
So cool!
I concur, a great watch while working!
I expected the trains to run much faster but still a fantastic project
They seem to be taking it slow while the system is starting out
@@RMTransitpeople have mesured a top speed of 80kmh on the bridge, Wheras CDPQ states a max speed of 100kmh.
@@gelu88 Only during the weekend trial. Right now it's going only 50 kmh on the bridge.
@@RMTransit It seemed fast to me. I watched it on the first day of service, so maybe something changed. Any guesses as to how long it'll take for them to switch to fast speeds?
@@noseboop4354 so the car on the highway moving at 50 km/h ?
Reese talk about the Max Bögl proposal of maglev in Dominican Republic is a very insteresting thing
Can you make more videos about the transit in toronto i love to watch these ❤
Love your videos
I'm always making more!
@@RMTransitthanks 🎉❤
Great video. It looks like an awesome metro line. I assume all the stations are accessible. If that would be great as Montreal was lacking accessible metro stations at one time.
Is it pretty simple taking a bike on the elevated stations?
Every station has elevators for accessibility.
8:21 love how the VMS sign says (in english) 'Welcome - to REM users on [the] Samuel de Champlain Bridge' and one time where English is used on road signs in Quebec. I assume the train travels at 80 km/h as thats the speed limit on the bridge for road traffic. For mainline rail however, mph is used.
It supposedly travels at 100 km/h on the bridge but I'm not sure if it's running at full speeds yet. It would be nice to see a cab view video like this with a speedometer overlay so we can see how fast the trains really go.
Most people in Quebec drive 15 to 20 km/h above the speed limits.
@@joelfrigon-henrichon5696 Right. On a good sunny days it's perfectly safe to drive a bit faster and it's generally tolerated as long as you aren't zipping dangerously through traffic.
@@OliversElevators Also, the speed feels slow on camera. I think it feels faster as a passenger than as a driver. Cant say if the drivers on the bridge are over the speed limit. Just need to calculate the distance and the time.
@@neonhills to be clear I’m not defending the behaviour. This is just how it is. Drivers in Montreal tend to completely disregard 80 km/h and 70 km/h and drive 90 to 110 in them. They also tend to pack less that a car length between vehicles which is far more dangerous at those speeds.
Since it's not seen in the video, what is the turnaround time of the trains? Is it just arrive, unload, load, and head back with no artificial wait?
I hope they have as much waiting time as is necessary to reduce delays to a minimum. These artificial waits have a really good reason. Though an automated line can turn around directly without waiting at all, yeah
Is there a dead fly on the right side?
What is, or why is there so much raised structures along the track in between the two tracks?
Evacuation I believe
Do you mean for the overhead power?
Sorry, probably you don't mean that! Maybe the raised walkway grating? I was wondering about that too. Of course the trains are high floor, so for evacuation purposes they need a raised platform, but I don't recall seeing so much space below on other systems. Maybe it's just an artifact of the guideway support engineering. Montreal gets a lot of snow though; maybe it's for that.
Just a question on price. Is it a flat fee regardless of where you get on or off the line? Because I figured that charging based on the distance between stations would be impractical since there is no way to control how long a passenger stays on the train.
It’s based on sectors, when you leave a sector you pay more (4.25 for between sectors instead of 3.50 for within sectors I believe)
@@ryanmiller5499 So how is this enforced? Do you have to scan something as you enter or leave the stations?
@@TheFarix2723 There will eventually be turnstiles, though for now it’s just a place to scan your ticket or OPUS card
The only thing I like about the REM are the door chimes
Why does NO ONE comment about that
the chime and music as the doors close remind me so much of JR metros T.T :')
While I understand putting the tracks on the highway median... Putting the stations there is just bad. (Yes, stations go where track is but you know what I mean.)
I get that accessing the station might be a pain in the rear, but the station itself isn't that bad, as the platform screen doors block out most of the noise.
In an ideal world, trains and tracks shouldn't go with highways. But this setup with REM and the highway system is not bad. Plus, I love trains riding along a majestic bridge.
The way they are accessed by wide areas with bike parking is quite good!
I just wish that the bus terminal and rem station had an enclosed passage like at longeuil metro. That tunnel into the station will be a wind tunnel in the winter
I wonder why Brossard's third track diverges before the switch between main tracks. Doesn't that effectively make the third platform impossible to arrive at from the Du Quartier direction? 🤔
I believe that this third track is not for passengers but rather for the maintenance facility.
Yes, but thats because its for trains heading south, so each side is accessible by the north or south track and the middle from both! Many trains will also travel beyond the station and come back, which means access to the third track too.
Thanks man. That's what I was going to do for real. Not any more. One thing that strike me is how ugly it is going to and in the south shore is. Highways, constructions sites, empty terrains, parking lots, train tracks, sparse vegetation, etc... I will pass on this leg of the network. Hopefully there is better views going to the west island part.
I filmed already a few REM rides in snow, REM performs well ,but might travel delays early in the morning before re 7 AM
I've only seen the infrastructure from the outside. I saw the access points on the bridge, but couldn't think of their purpose. Looks like retarders in a couple of inclines??
Gare Centrale to Île des Soeurs in the morning would be a good time for railfans. VIA, exo, the Pointe-Saint-Charles switcher and the container train leaving the Port Of Montreal.
One of the best RMTransit videos!
How good is it to have a new Metro in Canada!?
My assumption is that they are running the trains slower so they make sure that everything is reliable. Because at some sections it seems to me that the train could go faster.
interesting how there is basically a platform along the entire length of the tracks
I'm a full time student at McGill from the Brossard who used to take rush hour busses that go downtown to get to class. I tested commute times and found out that I'd have to leave home 10 minutes earlier than I usually do to get to class on time due to the removal of busses that go to Montreal, since they got replaced by the REM. The REM has no competition, therefore no incentive to improve or maintain its services other than public backlash. We need to hold them accountable for their mistakes, unlike most of the people who I see in the comments who aren't locals and won't be punished by the consequences of a REM failure.
Some parts near Pointe-St-Charles are reminicant to taking the trains in Chicago to the White Sox Stadium.
Why didn't you show the inside of the new station at the starting point?
I wonder if they'd allow you to stick a GoPro to the front like the guy in SF did (without person in that case).
Not necessary in this case
I think a GoPro might risk getting ripped off when the train enters a station because of the close clearance between the side of the train and the platform screen doors.
@@OliversElevators There's a video of BART where I guy put it right on front of the train. It was pretty cool to see.
@@andrewpagan I know, I've seen it. It works in SF because BART doesn't have platform screen doors so there's no close clearance between the train and anything on the platforms. The same cannot be said about the REM.
@@OliversElevators I totally forgot BART was a lot more unsafe than this new metro. My apologies. :(
Interesting, Jean-Marc Arbaud and Jean-Vincent Lacroix were in your train
I used to live in Montréal in 2013 and it has changed so much! Would love to go back and visit. Is the REM slow or is that just how it looks in the video?
@cybotnic89
Montreal has changed so much, and for the better this is true. I'm living in Toronto since 2012, and I miss Montreal these days. With working from home, many people have this fantasy of moving to Montreal now! Le télé-travail rend les choses plus possibles!
Front view is slower too look at due to depth perception depending if you’re focusing closely or further away
I'm not sure but this seems pretty slow. For example from 9:30 to 11:00 the train has a long stretch of straight track ahead of it and still the cars are faster. You already lose time going to and from transit stops, so the ride itself should at least be faster than in a car.
it work like metro de montreal, a car on highway is faster than train and metro
but what with congestion on highway or bad weather or when worker need to repair the road ?
and train and metro dont need to stop at stop sign or red light or because the driver ahead you want to turn, but cant because car or people, driving in montreal can be sometime or too much messy because that
so with train it is just you avoid red light, stop sign, other drivers, valerie plante going into derp mode
so currently we are in vacance du travail, it is in 1 week and especially in september we will see who is faster train or car
@@vkobevk Also in the normal (non summer) traffic the bridge can have jams as early as 13:00. Not to mention that the train is at speed all the way to central station. In a car everything comes to a screeching halt has soon as you turn off of Robert-Bourassa BLVD.
@@vkobevk I hope you're right because that would be great for the train. I do hope that they will speed it up tho, because faster travel times are always a good thing and running it with the current speeds would be a bit of a missed opportunity.
I am planning to move to Montreal since I can not get a job from Tokyo.
At least, Montreal seems to be better option.
do you think it will be easier in montreal? soo many immigrants there, as well as in other parts of canada
@@rozt107
Well.
If you think Montreal is hard, come to my place...
I am close to New York and if you followed the news... You would know it's even harder in my place...
@@rozt107
Btw, if you know any job opportunities from Canada, please let me know.
Thank you in advance.
@@glaframb
It's worse than song...
Was that first train the one that classy whale was on?
REM has just been launched and this video already represents exactly what Montreal is like. The mix of French and English you hear everywhere you go is amazing in this city.
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@@RMTransit ?
based and Train pilled fo sure.
nice
Can it go faster than that?
I find it can it be speed up more? Like 100km or 120 km especailly a lot of the lines two extremities are very far away and for now the downtown core stastion density can support that speed as well at least for the next 5 years even 10.
The operator says the train should run at 100 km/h but for some reason it is only running 80 km/h at the moment
Who knows why is there a second rail in the center of line?
WHY SO SLOOOOOOW
Just the effect of the Camera mostly, plus it was running more slowly for the first few days
Can you do MARC (Day IX)
I should mention that it's not possible to transfer to the metro from central station when you are diable, because there are no elevators
That's true, while you can get on the main floor of central station from the REM in an elevator, If you would want to go to the orange line, you would most likely have to go outdoor and go true 1000 de la gauchetière, they have an Elevator from the main, floor to the métro line,
13:07 The announcement is wrong
No subway sections?
38:14
Next year phases it will go underground in certain areas
@RMTransit: I must say that, for a brand-new transit system, REM's automated trains are traveling at a rather LEISURELY pace. Perhaps it's because the system is SO new that it must first be completely "broken in" before the trains can be allowed to run at higher speeds. Better to be safe than sorry. Clearly they need to fine-tune their station-announcement system - "Panama" mentioned twice when the station after it should have been announced as, "Du Quartier."
As it stands, the REM is barely competitive with automobile travel, as can plainly be seen from its trains as they cross the St. Lawrence River alongside the highway bridge, where cars are regularly outpacing the train.
Thank you for sharing with us viewers your front-window-view ride along this first-to-be-opened section of REM's new network. Very nicely done. I am curious - were there any on-board train staff?
Reece said in another comment that they're not running at full speed yet
Reminder that front-view cameras always tend to fool you when it comes to speed. As do parallel angles (front or rear facing). It's important to look at the edges of the screen to gauge the actual speed.
@@MrAronymous This reminds me on the experience of taking a metro as a user (i.e. looking to the sides) and watching cab views of the same line; one grants a much better sense of speed than the other.
i remind you we are in vacance de la construction, we will see in one week or in september
also even the old train de banlieue was faster than car to go to downtown when you live in montreal suburban area
so try to beat train when your car is stuck in congestion or must to deal with red light, stop sign, other driver, people on the street and people on their bicycle
The thing is its a mix, when theres congestion the train wins, and they were going faster when testing! Speed is also not the only factor, of course they should be as fast as possible.
It does look nice. It seems weird, though, that they don't have the recorded station announcements right on a brand new train. It's also a bit odd that aside from the stations and which side the doors open, there's no announcements at all.
If 8 hasn't read the caption, I'd have thought this was in France.
19:46 why did they stole the jingle from McDonald's fries machine jk
hahahahahaaa 😂😂😂😂 so true now that you mention it
too bad I have whatsapp and Telegram BUT not anyother that you use. I had a great picture of the development of the Panama REM station that the Brossard city has divulged that will become the new city center
😍😍😍😅
I read that the average speed of the new REM is 50kmh per hour, and that the REM can only reach its top speed of 100km/h on the Champlain bridge exclusively.... To be honnest a 50 km/h average speed is really disappointing considering how much money went into this new modern transit project.
What did you expect?? Like obviously an urban transit project will have a lower average speed because it has to stop at stations. That requires slowing down.
@@justsamoo3480the thing is, when you're accelerating uniformly from 0 to 100 or decelerating from 100 to 0 your average speed in just that time frame is 50km/h. So a total average speed of 50km/h means that this train either accelerates to 100km/h and then immediately starts decelerating, or that it doesn't actually reach 100km/h consistently
do you want do same judgement with car, because i doubt too than your car average speed is over 50 km/h on montreal street, except if you are lucky enough to only encounter green light, avoid stop sign and other cars ahead you that wait to turn 😊
or you only drive on montreal street at 3h am 😊
@@vkobevk The thing is that the REM is built on a track dedicated to REM trains. Which means REM trains basically have their own private highway, so it doesn't need compete stop at any lights or compete with traffic other than basic stops at REM stations. Looking at this video and seeing the train getting passed by average traffic on the highway is not going to convince people with cars to take the REM except in during rush hour traffic. Most people value time more than anything else. People with cars will chose the REM if it's faster than their car to execute their daily routine. But if it's not, or if they feel like it's not much of an improvement they'll chose their car. It's as simple as that.
@@neonhills well the true fun will begin in few days or better in september with montreal road management under our mayor miss cone orange valerie plante, what i see rem brossard to downtown is 20 minutes
we will see with car if you can do brossard to downtown in 20 minutes 😊
Day 2 of me asking RM Transit to make a video about San Diego’s Transit Network
With that type of stop spacing you should seriously invest into faster trains, being slower than the cars on the highway in moderate traffic is a really bad sign. Traveling by rail always has a longer distance to cover accessing the station, so to be competitive in travel times you need to be faster than the cars! This is why HSR needs to be that fast and why express metros run with over 100km/h all over the world, but not the REM apparently.
I was going to say the same. I don’t want to be a nay-sayer because this is such a big step. BUT, if you’re going to invest this much in design and infrastructure, to not be able to exceed 100 km/h is underwhelming and disappointing. I’m sure it will still be far more time and cost efficient for lots of people, but imagine even how much better it could be?
Could be worse. The Alstom Metropolis is also used on Singapore MRT and there they're limited at 90km/h. On the Paris metro, these same model of trains (called MF01) runs at 70km/h.
Although, hopefully they'll be able to upgrade the system to be able to run at the 120km/h that the trains are designed for.
I’m seeing an accordion effect in the highway speeds. Perhaps people are exceeding the speed limit at times. Also, is it possible that train speeds are limited for a time period due to the system being new?
EDIT: Yes, highway traffic is definitely faster in the second half of the video.
REM maximum speed is 100km/h which is very correct for an express metro. I don't know if it gets there during the video however. There is maybe a reason for it.
Camera effect may also make the ride look slower than it is in real life.
@@equilat It is not about perceived speed. Cars are passing the train in the second half of the video; in the first half there is a back and forth. The cars may also be exceeding the speed limit at times. I’m not sure if there is enough speed difference to affect door to door times.
There's really bad high pitched noise around 25:00 It's much worse in real life
1:15 Love Me? Is that how dilapidated buildings are advertised in Canada?
My cities skylines city tram overview
Looks very slow for an electric train.
Is it me or do I find it painfully slow compared to the track alignment possibility?
Rem coaches made in india sri city
Is it me or it seems slow? I expected it to be faster
When even the Chinese metro systems can have English announcements, why can't this one in 'North America'?
The Chinese don't feel their language is threatened by being surrounded by a sea of English-speakers, while the Quebecois do.
@@robertcartwright4374Bien dit!
You’re in Quebec…
and mexico do they have english voice in their rapid transit ?
hahahahahahaha, learn basic french and respect our Canadian linguistics Heritage
How come no one is talking in the train!!! That's so bizarre!!
Ok now people are talking.. i judged too soon loool
@@_Matt_Matt_365_ depend the moment yes
My biggest reason why I don’t like automated transit. It’s always so slow. None of that is at 100kph... And all of that to keep the system running with the correct interval, like just make the trains stop a bit longer or shorter at the stations. You can shave off like 2 or 4 min just by speeding up, that matters to some people.
That really has nothing to do with it being automated, its just about speed restrictions (for some reason speeds were lower the first few days)
You could have automated HSR with no problems in a few years when ATO over ETCS might get specs for GoA 3+. It has absolutely nothing to do with speed
I sincerely hate the disembodied, lifeless voice announcements. I know people like that she's the daughter of the original metro voice and all but the result is horrendous.
😀🚋 More Please. 😃 Thank you.