Are you saying most NASCAR fans have knee jerk reactions and an irrational thought process? Because you wouldn't exactly be wrong if that's what you're saying.
If only Nascar would listen to people like him. Nascar tries to so hard to get these new fans but let me tell ya. IT AIN’T WORKIN. Try this, keep your fans that are really into the sport happy and play to there likeness and wants and the other fans will come.
@@DEDBRD-di4yj No one turns wrenches on their own cars these days. How many kids can change their oil, brakes, spark plugs and least of all....tires? I know of few adults who can even fathom the task. My old Chevy truck is easy. I take my old Caddy to a local garage because they rotate my tires, grease my suspension and change my oil for $20. Oil costs more than that at the store. Service your own riding mower? Gotta do that next month. Yeah, the same people who don't understand/like car racing don't do those things and wouldn't understand if you drew them pictures to go along with a lengthy discussion.
As do pretty much all people in Nascar and most fans I know. No more insight than anyone else. He was an average driver and to me a disappointment. I was a fan of his for the first couple of years until I realized he was average. With the equipment he had, he should have had a much better career. Like him, but he is really no one special. Most people are still thinking of his Dad when they talk about him. Too bad he retired but he was pretty much done.
Numbers should strictly be on the door... we’ve had this for a long time and NASCAR shouldn’t change it... we know drivers and their legacies by their numbers... 3, 43, 21, 11, 24, 48, etc
Dean Cory transponders are already used for timing and scoring, but fans need to see the numbers at on the tv and at the track so they can see their driver
I'm honestly fine with the moving it back along the side to open space for sponsors. Other Touring Car serieses do it all the time, and its created some iconic liveries, like the Pennzoil Skylines from the turn of the millennium.
Amen. That's why I personally do not attend any NASCAR races now, even though being retired I could attend a whole lot more. Like Jr. said, the stock is so far removed from stock car. I think things really went downhill when they got away from stock engine configuration to an engineered engine configuration. Plus stage racing is the biggest variance from "racing".
NASCAR has front engine rear drive V8 Camrys with full roll cages, but everyone is saying changing the lug nut setup is what stops making it a “stock car”? Am I understanding this correctly?
The reason why they are doing one lug is because they found with the larger wheel when one out of 5 lugs being just slightly off it effected it more than prevously so they decide with one larger lug so prevent problems
@@alwaysopen7970 dropping grassroots tracks, sequential shifters, trying to move the number. They’re trying to do everything the FIA does but they need to stop
I think the five lug nut pit stops is one of the big things that separates NASCAR from other racing institutions. Every time I watch a video about it people who don’t know NASCAR are so impressed with the fact that five lugs need to be changed instead of just the one so that’s the reason why I don’t like the new one lug nut rule. I couldn’t care less about it looking more stock or not because changing tire size isn’t gonna do anything in my mind in regards to making it look stock.
I agree, it should stay 5 lugs, our vehicles won't have one Lug unless CORVETTE has it as a option, there the only ones that I know that has the knock offs but never really used, have seen it done on tv only, just to show how it was done. Never know with going Mid Engine on the 2020 Chevrolet CORVETTE now. Bigger size doesn't mean nothing, that's gonna cost GOODYEAR MONEY. Are they still 15 inch wheels with tires, can't tell do to size of them, they appear bigger like 18's now. Aluminum Wheels will break very easily and worse than a flat, its going down fast it a race car gets into the wall, damaging the wheel, can't hit a pot hole without cracking rims or curb rash that causes a flat overnight, my son barely tapped a curb in a snow storm, just to say there's a mark on wheel, been losing air daily since, I tighten the TPMS sensor, it was a bit loose, see if it works, will NASCAR have TPMS SENSORS on them so they as RACE CAR DRIVERS CAN SEE IF A TIRE IS GOING DOWN ? I bet not. To costly. Want ALUMINUM wheels then use TPMS SENSORS then. Exhaust pipes will break a rim rather than cutting the wheel down, oh wait, fender got pushed on the tire from a side hit, now will the rim or the tire hold out.
@@scuba5teve149 I agree. Race tracks across the nation have not kept their stands full over the years by changing everything. They have kept it up with consistent good racing in proven race cars.
The closest thing to "stock" cars would be GT4. That class has Camaros, Mustangs, Supras, and others. Let those bad boys loose on an oval and put the aerodynamic competitiveness back in the manufacturers' hands.
been on the Fan Council for 15 years. Proud and honored to be a part of it . No other sport I know of asks the fans what they think, and make decisions on that answer
C G I myself have loss interest in NASCAR since Jr retired because I’m not sure who to pull for anymore. However, Dales podcast has kept me interested.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 graphics on the screen, like a screen on TV? Or a screen like you see at the track? If at the track, what's the point in even being there, if all you're going to do is watch the race on a giant TV, when you got a TV at home and could save you a couple hundred bucks. And yes, numbers on the back of the car would make things so much easier for the spotter to find their driver or the fans to find their driver much easier. When all they see is a yellow car next to another yellow car, or a black car next to a black car.
Totally agree!! At least keep the number on the door. I’d be upset to see them on the quarter panel or I’ve even seen possibly a tiny number on the rear side window.
Sorry Junior...its changed beyond recognition. This is just one more box checked. Haven't watched a single race in 4 years. I was reroofing my house in Feb, 1999. I ran a cable to a small tv on the roof so I could watch Big E race. Never missed him on a sunday. Those were the days. No more.
So true! Any Sunday morning when I had to be away from the house, I'd hope like hell that the local affiliate would cover the race, cause I'd break out my high school Era tv set and the digital box and find a power plug. My wife hasn't watched a race since Feb. 2001.
Sr was bigger than the sport just like Senna was. 3 was nascar’s identity and it’s never been the same. His last victory at Talladega was the most incredible larger-than-life moment that the sport ever witnessed. Sr was relatable and had the perfect game of charisma and villain. I started watching nascar again after Feb 01 in around 07 and quickly became a 48 fan after seeing him drive and interview. After this Bubba Smolette incident I am done forever. This Communist Globohomo agenda is destroying society and sports but it’s been a blessing for me since my weekends opened wide open for better things.
I agree, a great guy with class, always respected him even as a FORD DRIVER, but I still have a few guy's I route for as long its not FORIEGN CARS. NASCAR started from WORLD WAR 2. The guys could fix and hot rod them out plus running moonshine. Keep them looking stock but out run the POLICE with a load of moonshine. WOW lets get away from Grass ROOTS RACING ? Why promote it if moving away from it. I started watching NASCAR on 1977 or 1978, I remember being a little kid and it came on TV one Sunday, my dad said go grab me a beer and we watched it, been on ever since and had to move the rabbit ears to get it in. I learned how to drive like that in many ways. I learned how to turn into the slide hoping not to spin out, or get pushed in the rear, most likely to spin out. I learned the gas pedal can be your friend or your worse nightmare, same goes with Brakes, hit the brakes and lose control of your car. Brakes locked up on older cars without anti locking brakes meant that most people will crash by losing control, its about tapping brakes and hitting gas once your pointed in right direction, I've panicked once, going to fast for the corner. Started sliding in dirt on side of sharp corner, still to fast to make it, but staying on brakes led me sideways acrossed the road about 75 foot slide, if I dropped a gear and punched the gas. It would of SPUN out very easy, just a 2.3L 4 speed Mustang, ended up putting passengers door into the pole, car was stuck, back road with FRIENDS and COUSINS in there CARS. My COUSIN tried to push it off the pole so I could get out but got caught, someone came by, once home, they called the POLICE. Drove car to work the next day and home, then parked it. Bought another one for $75 a 1981 MUSTANG. 2 best cars I ever had, put many clutches in it from burnouts, friends worked at garages. Used tires were free, went threw a lot, we all did. My friend took his 1978 CHEVETTE, yes 2 door CHEVETTE, he built a 3.8L engine for chump change, friends ran the machine shop for engines. Work done at cost of parts. Scary fast car, now these cars had positraction rearends in them, fun rat rods to rat race the city in. I'd beat 5.0L Mustang's in the 1st 300 feet. there to busy spinning tires not moving fast, once they learned to pedal it, they came around, but I've beat others that couldn't drive. I ran open header, never believing ot was only a 4 cyclinder, then we meet up and I would pop the hood. I could clutch brake burnout 3 gears, the 4th gear would stall out most of the times, have done it but also blew the tires off. Went grabbed tow truck at shop. Yeah NASCAR with Smokey and the Bandit movie along with Dukes of Hazzard now, hard to out run the radio's. Stay to 5 lugs. NASCAR will see in the Daytona RACE, now I'll never get to go to 2 more tracks. That will keep my money from going. I know only 2 of us go out of 12 up in NEW HAMPSHIRE now, sad but my home track.
@@JR-kr1lv hate to tell you but every Toyota sold in North America is made in North America for at least the last 20-30 years... Not Mexico or something like some "American" cars.. Toyota is a domestic brand.. Many Chevy's are simply sold as Chevy in North America, some are Opel and rebadged, hell they've even sold Japanese made Toyotas rebadged as Chevy's back in the mid-late 80s
I’d ask him why he tried to kill Brad Kesaloski? Then I would as him what it was like to watch Tony Stewart run in front of him and win the championship?
Number on the car SHOULD be the most important thing on the car. The person who is driving it, what the number is. The biggest most visable thing on the car should NOT be one sponsor. Nascar was founded on STOCK CAR racing, there have been many new improvements for safety, but it is getting further and further away from where it started. My opinion between single or 5 lug would be to use a factory lug pattern and factory size wheel.
it's 2020 watch an F1 race (and yes, I live and die Nascar #4 #14) As long as it says Chevy, Ford, (I drive a Chevy) it's good for me. 18 year olds doing I-Racing it is 2020
yea you must realize none of those factory cars use a 15 inch wheel. As the movie said, there is nothing stock about a stock car. Did you know Toyota does not make a rear wheel drive camry?
Damn Dale I still miss you being behind the wheel of that 88! Seeing that 88 car in victory lane was so awesome, and nothing against Alex Bowman, he seems like a good talented kid! But when he jumped out of the car, it still sucks 3 years later, that your not inside that car anymore. 😳😧
I've been a fan of the 42 car since 2003. It has been through 4 drivers, 2 manufacturers and several sponsors and paint schemes since 2003, but the number has stayed the same. That's why I still follow that car to this day, it is key to it's identity.
Here in Australia in V8supercars they removed the numbers off the side doors now they only have tiny stickers on the windows all for the mitey dollar wins out do love when they do heritage round the numbers are back on the doors on some looks so much better
aside from the 888, nobody (outisde Australia) knows what number is who. for me i have always identified a V8Supercar by their sponsor and then the name on the window and it works.
As an America, I have spent more time recently watching the V8SC than NASCAR. It’s just so much more entertaining. And I could not care less there aren’t giant numbers on the doors.
Can’t help but stare at the #3 on the door hanging on the wall behind Jr as he’s making his point. It’s proving his point in of itself of how iconic it looks
I’m a new nascar fan and I love Dale Jr. he’s so down to earth. I’ve been a casual nascar observer for years so I know most of the big tracks and drivers going back a few decades just from seeing bits and pieces here and there. But I’ve been hardcore for the last 2 months, watching every truck, xfinity, and cup series race. I’m really getting into it. Oddly enough, the first and only nascar race I watched in its entirety prior to this was the infamous 2001 Daytona 500 where we lost Dale Sr.
Speaking of numbers identifying drivers...back in late 97/early 98, I worked at an engineering company out of Paducah, KY that did surveying and core drilling jobs for roads, bridges, and new building foundations. Several of the workers were big NASCAR fans. One loved Wallace #2, another loved Labonte #5, I loved Earnhardt #3. And when we'd do our core drilling one of the things we'd do is hammer counts on driving down our core sampler. And as we'd report them to our record sheets, we'd call out the driver name that corresponded with that number. And the sad thing is that we'd know almost every driver for whatever number we needed.
The white 3 diecast lower right of the table has the number ahead of the wheel which is the front of the quarter panel. Stock car racing's roots come from short tracks which have big differences in numbers. I grew up at Hialeah Speedway and three of the most popular cars were the 119 the 237 and the Dale Earnhardt of the track (Bobby Brack) drove the flying zerO .
There won’t be a black number 3, Sr’s mom said she didn’t wanna see a black number 3 that’s why Dillion has more colors to all the black ones he has but they need to keep the numbers on the door fr
Absolutely right. I want to watch...I make myself watch.. NASCAR.it really is going down hill. Getting tough to be a fan. Europeanizing something else that was totally American. NFL has lost its way.
American Rider That’s the day NASCAR died. I followed it for Jr. for as long as I could before I couldn’t take it anymore. I gave up just before he switched to Hendrick’s
I do miss when different paint schemes were something special. Like at the All-Star Race, Chevy Rock and Roll 400 with the Looney Tunes and Pepsi 400 at Daytona.
@@kenzschueler I know right? I kind of had to chuckle thinking about the wraps. Axalta is one of the longest running sponsors since back when it was Dupont on the car and they're known for automotive paint. Granted Hendrick still puts a base coat of paint on the body, but they put that wrap over it. Seems like kind of a middle finger to them in my opinion.
I always get event T shirts at races and the 1st Chevy Rock and Roll in Richmond years back was great. It was the year they put out Gordon's chromillusion paint job. 1998?
5 lugs! I think this serves two purposes. 1, keeps the " stock" look and feel. 2, Adds challenge to pit crews on pit stops. A 1 lug tire no longer a "stock" car.
I have to confess I was not much of a JR fan until I started watching these programs and my attitude has completely changed. I always thought he was a spoiled kid and while talented was projected way above what he should have been. Now I can see why he has been so popular. Seems to be a very down to earth guy one could enjoy being around in any setting.
I feel the same passion in Dale's voice. For me growing up what gained my attention from NASCAR were the wheels, the big number etc. So for me I understand moving with the time. But I don't want to watch NASCAR in the future and not recognise the sport for what I used to love it for.
Glad you brought that up about the lug nuts because I remember several times that you left the pits and had to come right back because of a loose lug nut . Thanks. Fan forever.
The 30% loss of durability that Mike refers to is with loose lug nuts on the 18" wheel. I'd like to see A LOT of testing on short tracks and road courses to measure the durability of the "knock off" wheels. Those kind of tracks put much greater loads on the wheels than the big ovals do. Sure, open wheel and IMSA have used them for years but, the cars are also much lighter. Therefore, they don't put the same loads on the wheels in turns. I think they also use carbon fiber, not aluminum. As for number placement, I basically agree with Jr. but I have another reason for not taking it off the side of the car. SAFETY!!! Imagine being a spotter trying to find your car in traffic. It might not be bad at a short track where you can always see the roof number. On the other hand, it could be a HUGE problem if the cars are on the back stretch at a big track. If you can't see the roof number, there's no way you'll see a small number on the quarter window or behind the tire. The problem would be compounded in cases where the same sponsor, Bass Pro Shops for example, is on multiple cars in the same race. The spotter might clear his/her driver while looking at the wrong car.
One of the few podcasts or shows on RUclips that isnt littered with ads. Thanks Jr. for not being a greedy prick and making an advertisement with a little bit of a podcast sprinkled in.
Why isn't there a one lug on domestic car's. I would love it. Imagine how long it would take to change a tire. Especially in the RAIN that would be awesome. 👍
When my daughter was little she never referred to Dale Jr. (who was, and always will be my favorite driver for many reasons) by Dale, Earnhardt, Dale Jr, Junior, etc. She referred to him as "Number 8." Before she ever understood NASCAR she would watch races with me, ask questions, and get excited when she saw the Dupont car pass someone. She became a Jeff Gordon fan because of the Dupont color scheme and I loved that. Since she was two years old she always referred to Jeff Gordon as "My Driver" and Dale Jr. as "Number 8." My daughter is 19 years old now, and still, to this day, if I bring up a racing story from when she was little she still calls Gordon, "My Driver" and Dale Jr. "Number 8." The point of this story is the numbers matter. The number defines the driver. Leave the numbers on the center of the doors, and the roof of the cars. NASCAR went from a grassroots sport to a multi BILLION dollar company in 50 years, and they didn't have to change car number location to achieve that status. As The Beatles once sang, "Let It Be" NASCAR please follow suit, just let it be.
I think the single lug is likely safer (i.e., less likely to result in loose--or missing--wheel incidents), so I'm good with it. I don't care for the number location changes, and I agree that the sport has suffered from the loss of brand identity. My favorite years are the 80s and the 90s when the Fords looked like the actual Thunderbird you could buy and drive (which I did!), as did the Chevys, Pontiacs, Buicks, Dodges, and Plymouths.
You are spot on . The 80's and especially the 90's had the best racing . I can remember Geoff Bodine and Dale Earnhardt at Riverside working the heck out of their cars sawing at the wheel in the later 80's trying to pass one another , just fantastic racing . After about 2003 it really took a dive and it never really recovered. They have tried dumb things with the segments, chase , all to try to make up for what was lost on the track .
Exactly, making changes have unintended consequences. I would have stayed with the five lug myself , but problem isnt the lug to me it's the wheels. Racing is already poor so how are you going to beat and bang with aluminum wheels that shatter? I wish they would fix the racing first. This reminds me of the COT car when they first went down that road.
DJ how I respect you my man.. I'm old school and haven't watched a Nascar race since your Dad passed ... loved that man, hard hitting and never afraid to speak the God's honest truth.....I miss him and I miss you as well,great champion and competitor....miss you my man as well, peace.
As a hardcore Motorsports fanatic, I prefer the 1 lug nut thing over the garbage gimmicks like the awful playoffs and stages. At least the 1 lug nut thing is a racing thing and not a gimmick
Great topic I totally agree on the number. I really don't want to see the number get replaced by the sponsor logo on the door. Sponsor logos belong on the hood and the rear deck. As a fan, I want the full size number on the side of the car so I can tell where my car is as the field goes by. Plus, if you think about the most iconic cars, the sponsors name was always right there on the rear quarterpanel. For example #43 STP, Cale's #28 Hardees, Dale's #3 Goodwrench, Darrel's #17 Tide Clean Machine, #6 Mark's Valvoline, #8 Budweiser. I could go on forever. A good paint scheme goes a long way. Also agree on the lug nuts. Single lug nut isn't new, Speed Racer even had one. Don't like COT, keep the chassis and go back to manufacturer's body style with templets. And can I have a round of wedge please. I miss that adjustment.
Tradition doesn't seem to matter to Nascar. They forgot about the fans. Keep ripping seats out because you are going to continue losing fans. Racing for only the sponsors will be the ultimate downfall.
I wanna see a "senior" circuit where all of the talented drivers that are no longer in nascar suit up again and run the short tracks around the country. Edwards, Kahne, Biffle, Kenseth, McMurray, Gordon, Stuart, Junior, etc should still be in race cars every Sunday doing what they were born to do.
@@williamcarver9832 Biffle shows up to the 24 Hours of Lemons sometimes, runs an old Crown Vic. That's the purest "racing for the sake of racing" you're going to get. I hope to race against him sometime.
It would be cool if NASCAR held an annual "turn back the clock" vintage race once a year. They could highlight a different period each year and make it a part of a race weekend and have a limited lap race, mainly for show, with vintage cars from that time period just to expose the current NASCAR fans to some of NASCAR's rich history. Imagine seeing a 1970 Dodge Daytona, Plymouth Superbird and Ford Torino at, Talladega once again. Even if held to 3/4 speed that would still be around 150 MPH for these cars. Just a dream but a good one. I am old enough to remember, late 1970's early 80's, when the cars were closer to stock and you could actually see the differences when the cars would be side by side or single file coming at you. I miss that with today's cars. There were also more brands back then also. Gone are the Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles etc.
Hey Jr, I can agree with you about everything you talked about👍 But, in my opinion the race teams should be able to have some leeway to tweak some aspects of the cars( spoilers, splitters) I think that would create more competitiveness, and put a degree of traditional stock car racing back into the sport, what do you think?
My 1960-70’s Corvettes, Jaguars and 427 SC Cobra had the single nut with spinners. I didn’t have any problems with them but the spinner did get outlawed because it did stick out. The number as you say Dale is the only real identifier. When the car goes by at 200mph the colors are a blur and we need the number the same size so we can identify the drivers. Sliding it back a little is ok but let’s not destroy the ability of seeing the number when you are going 200. I also like it big on to roof.
We have to respectfully disagree with Dale Jr. here. When Dale Sr. ran his #3 all black car, it was one of the main reasons why superstars were created in NASCAR in the 80's. Fans related to the driver, the number, the personality and the familiar paint scheme every week that they loved. With so many teams changing paint schemes every week now, it's very tough for fans to relate and love a car by only a number, sponsor and name. Imagine if the General Lee came out with the same number, Bo & Luke Duke driving but a different color than the familiar orange on TV every week. Would the TV show have been so popular?
@@tylerboyles4504 From Dale Jr, "the number is the identity" of the car. Our post clearly states the complete package including, number, driver, personality, sponsors, color and paint scheme is the identity of the car.
Just one more facet of automotive character to throw away. The culmination of these things is why the stands are empty.... NASCAR doesn't appeal to CAR people anymore.
@@TellaSignTV The 90's, learn to read you idiot. Expecting the ratings swell in the 00's to maintain is asinine, especially when you so many high profile retirements in a short timeframe.
From the fans point of view we're looking for the number on side of car of our favorite driver which mines always been 3 and 8 Earnhardt never really think about the sponsor honestly but I thank the sponsors for the support
@@williamstern4771 Its getting like college football they have a bowl for everything, I been waiting for the "KOTEX BOWL" or maybe will have "The Honey Pot Tampons 250" Presented by Heinz Ketchup LOL
Just another reason we miss you, tradition does matter. I just hope they don't forget what got them where they are. The fans, ticket sales, and viewing audience. Oh yeah and most popular drivers. Keep up the good work JR.
Welcome to France car....it's not stock car winston cup racing anymore and has got a bit boring a little more each year sadly. Restrictor plates was the beginning of the end.
Steel wheels is what makes stock cars look cool. It is much more entertaining to watch a 5 lug nascar pitstop. Than a single lug IndyCar or F1 pitstop. European fan.
My argument against the single lug is that it reduces the opportunity for a "mistake". When cars come into the pits and there are fractions of a second that separate a good stop from a not-so-good stop; often it is how efficiently the tire changer hits all of the lugs. Reducing the total number of lugs from 20 to 4, you eliminate some of the differences between a good crew and a great crew. Also, I can envision this makes the 2-tire vs. 4-tire calls easier. If you can change all 4-tires in the time it takes to get the necessary fuel into the car, you will do it. Today, crew chiefs are having to think about "how much gas do I need? How many tires can I change in that time? If 2-tires, how does that affect handling?". I think with the single lug, more often than not, they could change all four in the time it takes to get the required fuel.
@@PurpleCrownVic Same here. Last time I've watched an entire race was 2012 until this season. And no, it wasn't because of the Newman wreck. I started with the ARCA race at Daytona and have watched all of the ARCA, Truck, Xfinity and Cup races thus far. Edit: Actually, the reason I came back was because I heard about Brian France no longer being in charge so now I'm interested in finding out where NASCAR goes.
I stopped watching when they done the segment BS wth is that crap and all these rich kids drive now most never touched a wrench in there life they never even held the flashlight for daddy growing up
I think the current version shows more distinct difference between the manufacturers! And I like like that! Like JR said... slide it a little front or back, it allows for an additional sponsor logo. But don’t move it out of site or make it smaller!
Let's face it, the majority of NASCAR fans don't have the mental capacity to adapt to change. Just listen to the ones that call in to the shows on SiriusXM. It's like listening to Alabama fans on Finebaum's show.
Dale Jr. Should be greatful for Mike Davis, he us a great speaker, a smart business mind, he is also a very very good PR man..I am betting a great friend, he has help Jr, in many ways we all dont even know about...He also created a calm down Jimmy Spencer, if you can believe that!! MIKE DAVIS. MIKE Is an unsung hero in NASCAR CUP RACING over the years...Dale we all know is grateful, and I think he does really appreciate Mike!! ONE DAY SHOULD BE COMMENDED BY THE NASCAR ORG. !! HE IS A GOOD MAN, AND A JOB WELL DONE..
If you’re taking away the lug nuts, why even have pit stops be part of it. Just stop the race service the cars and start again. Those pit crews are athletes and should be allowed to compete. Just take all the human element out and run them like giant RCs.
The single lug eliminates the skills that many pit crew members have built up to separate themselves and their crew when changing tires. How much money will they lose now that more people can do the same task at an equivalent level? How many people spend years perfecting a craft are now expendable? When I get new tires, I don't pull a tire out of the trunk. I take it to a crew and that crew puts the car on a jack and swaps out the tires. Nascar does that in an expedited manner. Keep the Stock in Stock Car as much as possible.
The more they change sh*t like this the less i feel like watching Nascar I don't really watch it anymore and my desire is less and less with every stupid change they make
The #'s moved fwd makes tons pf sense in a sponsor driven sport. Concerning the new wheels/lugs seems to me that's created more problems than it's solved.
Why don't we just have ROBOTS service the car in the pits?????? While this is not a hill I want "to die on" it is a hill I can walk away from.What else can they do to speed up the decline of NASCAR? Just for a side note, when they go to electric or hybrid cars I will RUN away from that hill.
Next gen car might just have an electric motor in it for a "push to pass" much like F1 has. A quick boost of acceleration that takes 15 or 20 laps to recharge through braking. So you better get your running shoes ready and call yourself Forrest Gump, because you might be running for a while.
@@ryantruax4635 F1 doesn't have push to pass, IndyCar does. F1 has a hybrid system with a limited deployment per lap. IndyCar has a limited amount of push to pass per race.
Ryan 1 drivers have a button for a quick boost like for example you push a button on the steering wheel and it gives more deployment from the mgu-k for around 3-5 seconds to overtake someone but in the end it still uses some of your lap energy as well as energy from the battery so it’s kinda like 2 steps forward 1 step back but I highly doubt nascar would go that low 😂 (at least I hope they won’t)
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I love this. From a perspective of a former road racer, this just simple. I do get the nostalgia. From my view....The "stock car" should still be "stock". All underneath? Do it. Length, width....I would love to see original...
NASCAR has lost its identity with the Driver and Number....it's been this way for over a decade. When I was a kid, if my Dad said a number, I knew the driver. Now? I have to think. You can't mess with the number....it's what ties it all together. We need to get back to that way...you know who is associated with what car.
disagree 100%, most if not ALL nascar fans know what number is who. i think in this case the problem is you and the numbers. every nascar fan know who the 11 is, 18, 9 and all the big dogs. Now if you ask me who drives the 47 anymore (as AJ is out) i dont know, but i know its a JGT Daugherty car
@@supersevenn so you disagree with me to agree with me? Think about it for a second, yes, the "big dogs" can be easy to remember but in the 90s, I knew every driver. Every number cause it never changed. You only have 3-5 drivers that are associated with their numbers. Hamlin, Busch, Chase is only associated cause of his Dad (My favorite driver). You say 20, I'm going to say Stewart. You say 10, I say Ricky Rudd. You say 33, I say Harry Gant. My point is this, these drivers i listed took over number from drivers in the 50s-80s. They assumed them and made it theirs, we associated these drivers to the car number. 3 is Sr, 9 is Awesome Bill, 2 is Rusty, 7 is Geoff Bodine, 18 is Bobby Labonte. The driver's since 2010 haven't done that, with the exception of Kyle Busch and Hamlin. But they've been around since the early to mid 2000s. If you know the driver's now to the numbers, then good ...but the issue is, majority of NASCAR's fan base is still the older crowd. We've been taught once in the Early 90s but we are still seeing our drivers in those cars....meaning these new kids don't have an identity to the numbers, not like those guys did in our time at least. If NASCAR moves the number or makes it seem insignificant, you're taking away a part of the sport that true traditionalist LOVE. That's my main point.....these kids these days can't lose that aspect of the cars cause they'll get lost to the fans. It's "MAN AND MACHINE"...thats what we love. Not just the man.
I get that but it’s hard with such a large field. But for me #2 is Rusty #3 is Earnhardt #6 is Martin and #24 is Jeff Gordon. I miss the 90s and early 2000s NASCAR. Still watching now though!
Jr is a 'weird' NASCAR fan; he has sound and solid opinions with good reasoning
Are you saying most NASCAR fans have knee jerk reactions and an irrational thought process?
Because you wouldn't exactly be wrong if that's what you're saying.
Single lug. Boo. Period.
If only Nascar would listen to people like him. Nascar tries to so hard to get these new fans but let me tell ya. IT AIN’T WORKIN. Try this, keep your fans that are really into the sport happy and play to there likeness and wants and the other fans will come.
@@DEDBRD-di4yj No one turns wrenches on their own cars these days. How many kids can change their oil, brakes, spark plugs and least of all....tires? I know of few adults who can even fathom the task. My old Chevy truck is easy. I take my old Caddy to a local garage because they rotate my tires, grease my suspension and change my oil for $20. Oil costs more than that at the store. Service your own riding mower? Gotta do that next month.
Yeah, the same people who don't understand/like car racing don't do those things and wouldn't understand if you drew them pictures to go along with a lengthy discussion.
As do pretty much all people in Nascar and most fans I know. No more insight than anyone else. He was an average driver and to me a disappointment. I was a fan of his for the first couple of years until I realized he was average. With the equipment he had, he should have had a much better career. Like him, but he is really no one special. Most people are still thinking of his Dad when they talk about him. Too bad he retired but he was pretty much done.
Numbers should strictly be on the door... we’ve had this for a long time and NASCAR shouldn’t change it... we know drivers and their legacies by their numbers... 3, 43, 21, 11, 24, 48, etc
Put a transponder in the car and you don't have any purpose for numbers on the cars!
Dean Cory transponders are already used for timing and scoring, but fans need to see the numbers at on the tv and at the track so they can see their driver
Dean Cory let’s run backwards while we’re at it
Dean Cory there are transponders on our cars, moron
I'm honestly fine with the moving it back along the side to open space for sponsors. Other Touring Car serieses do it all the time, and its created some iconic liveries, like the Pennzoil Skylines from the turn of the millennium.
Most nascar fans: this single lug is a disgrace that’s not stock at all
Also most nascar fans: man the gen 4 car was awesome
4th gen was the greatest Car and racing proved that
I don’t get the comment
antz350 it shows hypocrisy cause the gen 4 was almost the furthest thing from a “stock car”
Since when does nascar use a stock camry, camaro or Mustang?
Yup. Specially 90's Gen 4 cars
I have been a Nascar fan since the early 60's and have seen all the changes. Single lug no problem but don't change the placement of the number.
Yeah I’ll stop watching if they do that keep that stuff outta nascar
@@landonhall9915 well get ready to watch something else sundays lol
It’s gonna turn into F1 where the number is a tiny decal on the quarter panel
nascar has not cared about the fans in many years.
The Corporations have taken over the board room.
Amen. That's why I personally do not attend any NASCAR races now, even though being retired I could attend a whole lot more. Like Jr. said, the stock is so far removed from stock car. I think things really went downhill when they got away from stock engine configuration to an engineered engine configuration. Plus stage racing is the biggest variance from "racing".
NASCAR has front engine rear drive V8 Camrys with full roll cages, but everyone is saying changing the lug nut setup is what stops making it a “stock car”? Am I understanding this correctly?
I hear ya! Nothing about the cars are "stock cars" time for NASCAR to change the name.
Amen to hell with Toyota
The reason why they are doing one lug is because they found with the larger wheel when one out of 5 lugs being just slightly off it effected it more than prevously so they decide with one larger lug so prevent problems
Because of the identity.
Chevy Lumina?
"keeping up with the trends" is what killed NASCAR! and is still killing it.
Well said!
Exactly right..
Wish I could shake your hand 👏👏 100% agree
What trends are they keeping up with?
@@alwaysopen7970 dropping grassroots tracks, sequential shifters, trying to move the number. They’re trying to do everything the FIA does but they need to stop
"Why are we changing something that aint broken?" The story of NASCAR for the past decade.
3 decades
And the reason I quit following it.
Watched the "Chase" one year...
I think the five lug nut pit stops is one of the big things that separates NASCAR from other racing institutions. Every time I watch a video about it people who don’t know NASCAR are so impressed with the fact that five lugs need to be changed instead of just the one so that’s the reason why I don’t like the new one lug nut rule. I couldn’t care less about it looking more stock or not because changing tire size isn’t gonna do anything in my mind in regards to making it look stock.
I agree, it should stay 5 lugs, our vehicles won't have one Lug unless CORVETTE has it as a option, there the only ones that I know that has the knock offs but never really used, have seen it done on tv only, just to show how it was done. Never know with going Mid Engine on the 2020 Chevrolet CORVETTE now. Bigger size doesn't mean nothing, that's gonna cost GOODYEAR MONEY. Are they still 15 inch wheels with tires, can't tell do to size of them, they appear bigger like 18's now. Aluminum Wheels will break very easily and worse than a flat, its going down fast it a race car gets into the wall, damaging the wheel, can't hit a pot hole without cracking rims or curb rash that causes a flat overnight, my son barely tapped a curb in a snow storm, just to say there's a mark on wheel, been losing air daily since, I tighten the TPMS sensor, it was a bit loose, see if it works, will NASCAR have TPMS SENSORS on them so they as RACE CAR DRIVERS CAN SEE IF A TIRE IS GOING DOWN ? I bet not. To costly. Want ALUMINUM wheels then use TPMS SENSORS then. Exhaust pipes will break a rim rather than cutting the wheel down, oh wait, fender got pushed on the tire from a side hit, now will the rim or the tire hold out.
Showroom stock wheels (for the most part) all have hubcaps
Nascar: "how can we singlehandedly lose our fan base and go bankrupt? Let's get away from everything the fans love"
they lost me with the chase...... and and now 'segments'?
racing should be about consistency.
@@scuba5teve149 I agree. Race tracks across the nation have not kept their stands full over the years by changing everything. They have kept it up with consistent good racing in proven race cars.
they did that years ago.
The closest thing to "stock" cars would be GT4. That class has Camaros, Mustangs, Supras, and others. Let those bad boys loose on an oval and put the aerodynamic competitiveness back in the manufacturers' hands.
Trans am TA2
I think most sensible people that follow other Motorsports besides nascar would love to see gt4, gt3, gtlm on an oval track
Australia V8 supercars
I loved the idea until Daytona reminded me why that won't work.
@@brendarodriguez2245 I do like the V8 Supercars. I was leaning more towards US autosport.
Glad I’m on the same page as Dale with the single lug and especially the number placements. Traditionalist all the way baby!
Me to !
"There's nothing stock about a stock car." - Harry Hogge 1990
Just leave the number where it's at. I have no issues with the center lug.
been on the Fan Council for 15 years. Proud and honored to be a part of it . No other sport I know of asks the fans what they think, and make decisions on that answer
This podcast has single handily gotten me back into nascar
C G I myself have loss interest in NASCAR since Jr retired because I’m not sure who to pull for anymore. However, Dales podcast has kept me interested.
I can't imagine NASCAR without numbers on the doors
They could put graphics on the screen or on the back doesn't seem like that big of a deal
Isn't that where the Mexican NASCAR puts their numbers? lmfao!
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 graphics on the screen, like a screen on TV? Or a screen like you see at the track? If at the track, what's the point in even being there, if all you're going to do is watch the race on a giant TV, when you got a TV at home and could save you a couple hundred bucks.
And yes, numbers on the back of the car would make things so much easier for the spotter to find their driver or the fans to find their driver much easier. When all they see is a yellow car next to another yellow car, or a black car next to a black car.
@@LionManatic I meant TV screen didn't even consider being there and in that case need numbers on car
Totally agree!! At least keep the number on the door. I’d be upset to see them on the quarter panel or I’ve even seen possibly a tiny number on the rear side window.
That would be nice to hear
Sorry Junior...its changed beyond recognition. This is just one more box checked. Haven't watched a single race in 4 years. I was reroofing my house in Feb, 1999. I ran a cable to a small tv on the roof so I could watch Big E race. Never missed him on a sunday. Those were the days. No more.
So true! Any Sunday morning when I had to be away from the house, I'd hope like hell that the local affiliate would cover the race, cause I'd break out my high school Era tv set and the digital box and find a power plug. My wife hasn't watched a race since Feb. 2001.
Sr was bigger than the sport just like Senna was. 3 was nascar’s identity and it’s never been the same. His last victory at Talladega was the most incredible larger-than-life moment that the sport ever witnessed. Sr was relatable and had the perfect game of charisma and villain.
I started watching nascar again after Feb 01 in around 07 and quickly became a 48 fan after seeing him drive and interview. After this Bubba Smolette incident I am done forever. This Communist Globohomo agenda is destroying society and sports but it’s been a blessing for me since my weekends opened wide open for better things.
I'd love to see carl Edward's on this podcast. Really like to hear his story.
Back flip cuzz
I agree, a great guy with class, always respected him even as a FORD DRIVER, but I still have a few guy's I route for as long its not FORIEGN CARS. NASCAR started from WORLD WAR 2. The guys could fix and hot rod them out plus running moonshine. Keep them looking stock but out run the POLICE with a load of moonshine. WOW lets get away from Grass ROOTS RACING ? Why promote it if moving away from it. I started watching NASCAR on 1977 or 1978, I remember being a little kid and it came on TV one Sunday, my dad said go grab me a beer and we watched it, been on ever since and had to move the rabbit ears to get it in. I learned how to drive like that in many ways. I learned how to turn into the slide hoping not to spin out, or get pushed in the rear, most likely to spin out. I learned the gas pedal can be your friend or your worse nightmare, same goes with Brakes, hit the brakes and lose control of your car. Brakes locked up on older cars without anti locking brakes meant that most people will crash by losing control, its about tapping brakes and hitting gas once your pointed in right direction, I've panicked once, going to fast for the corner. Started sliding in dirt on side of sharp corner, still to fast to make it, but staying on brakes led me sideways acrossed the road about 75 foot slide, if I dropped a gear and punched the gas. It would of SPUN out very easy, just a 2.3L 4 speed Mustang, ended up putting passengers door into the pole, car was stuck, back road with FRIENDS and COUSINS in there CARS. My COUSIN tried to push it off the pole so I could get out but got caught, someone came by, once home, they called the POLICE. Drove car to work the next day and home, then parked it. Bought another one for $75 a 1981 MUSTANG. 2 best cars I ever had, put many clutches in it from burnouts, friends worked at garages. Used tires were free, went threw a lot, we all did. My friend took his 1978 CHEVETTE, yes 2 door CHEVETTE, he built a 3.8L engine for chump change, friends ran the machine shop for engines. Work done at cost of parts. Scary fast car, now these cars had positraction rearends in them, fun rat rods to rat race the city in. I'd beat 5.0L Mustang's in the 1st 300 feet. there to busy spinning tires not moving fast, once they learned to pedal it, they came around, but I've beat others that couldn't drive. I ran open header, never believing ot was only a 4 cyclinder, then we meet up and I would pop the hood. I could clutch brake burnout 3 gears, the 4th gear would stall out most of the times, have done it but also blew the tires off. Went grabbed tow truck at shop. Yeah NASCAR with Smokey and the Bandit movie along with Dukes of Hazzard now, hard to out run the radio's. Stay to 5 lugs. NASCAR will see in the Daytona RACE, now I'll never get to go to 2 more tracks. That will keep my money from going. I know only 2 of us go out of 12 up in NEW HAMPSHIRE now, sad but my home track.
@@JR-kr1lv hate to tell you but every Toyota sold in North America is made in North America for at least the last 20-30 years... Not Mexico or something like some "American" cars.. Toyota is a domestic brand.. Many Chevy's are simply sold as Chevy in North America, some are Opel and rebadged, hell they've even sold Japanese made Toyotas rebadged as Chevy's back in the mid-late 80s
I’d ask him why he tried to kill Brad Kesaloski? Then I would as him what it was like to watch Tony Stewart run in front of him and win the championship?
Number on the car SHOULD be the most important thing on the car. The person who is driving it, what the number is. The biggest most visable thing on the car should NOT be one sponsor.
Nascar was founded on STOCK CAR racing, there have been many new improvements for safety, but it is getting further and further away from where it started.
My opinion between single or 5 lug would be to use a factory lug pattern and factory size wheel.
Mike Davidson factory is usually 18-22” now though
it's 2020 watch an F1 race (and yes, I live and die Nascar #4 #14) As long as it says Chevy, Ford, (I drive a Chevy) it's good for me. 18 year olds doing I-Racing it is 2020
Laura Glad you know what year it is.
yea you must realize none of those factory cars use a 15 inch wheel. As the movie said, there is nothing stock about a stock car. Did you know Toyota does not make a rear wheel drive camry?
@Ethan Weeter Ford never made a rear wheel drive Taurus...
Yep I'm with you JR. I like tradition. They (Nascar) can't stop screwing with stuff. Numbers go on the door.
Absolutely, numbers on the door!
Damn Dale I still miss you being behind the wheel of that 88! Seeing that 88 car in victory lane was so awesome, and nothing against Alex Bowman, he seems like a good talented kid! But when he jumped out of the car, it still sucks 3 years later, that your not inside that car anymore. 😳😧
I miss jr in the 8 car, guess I'm getting old!
the sponsor issue is the main problem with identity. Back in the day, it was the same color scheme, same sponsor. Now i can barely tell who is who.
I've been a fan of the 42 car since 2003. It has been through 4 drivers, 2 manufacturers and several sponsors and paint schemes since 2003, but the number has stayed the same. That's why I still follow that car to this day, it is key to it's identity.
Here in Australia in V8supercars they removed the numbers off the side doors now they only have tiny stickers on the windows all for the mitey dollar wins out do love when they do heritage round the numbers are back on the doors on some looks so much better
aside from the 888, nobody (outisde Australia) knows what number is who. for me i have always identified a V8Supercar by their sponsor and then the name on the window and it works.
No more Holden. 😢
I wish I could get the v8 super car's here but I can't find any network that carrots it in America .
As an America, I have spent more time recently watching the V8SC than NASCAR. It’s just so much more entertaining. And I could not care less there aren’t giant numbers on the doors.
Can’t help but stare at the #3 on the door hanging on the wall behind Jr as he’s making his point. It’s proving his point in of itself of how iconic it looks
Common sense is a flower that doesn’t grow NASCARS garden
I’m a new nascar fan and I love Dale Jr. he’s so down to earth. I’ve been a casual nascar observer for years so I know most of the big tracks and drivers going back a few decades just from seeing bits and pieces here and there. But I’ve been hardcore for the last 2 months, watching every truck, xfinity, and cup series race. I’m really getting into it. Oddly enough, the first and only nascar race I watched in its entirety prior to this was the infamous 2001 Daytona 500 where we lost Dale Sr.
"race on Sunday, sell on Monday" is gone.
Like 40 years ago, gone
*Win
It's been gone for a long long time.
Yeah that changed when the car they are trying to sell costs $40-60k
Because all the fans drive pick ups today , not cars!
Speaking of numbers identifying drivers...back in late 97/early 98, I worked at an engineering company out of Paducah, KY that did surveying and core drilling jobs for roads, bridges, and new building foundations. Several of the workers were big NASCAR fans. One loved Wallace #2, another loved Labonte #5, I loved Earnhardt #3. And when we'd do our core drilling one of the things we'd do is hammer counts on driving down our core sampler. And as we'd report them to our record sheets, we'd call out the driver name that corresponded with that number. And the sad thing is that we'd know almost every driver for whatever number we needed.
That big number "3" on the wall behind Jr. I can NOT imagine a black Chevy with that on the quarter panel. FFS Nascar.
The white 3 diecast lower right of the table has the number ahead of the wheel which is the front of the quarter panel. Stock car racing's roots come from short tracks which have big differences in numbers. I grew up at Hialeah Speedway and three of the most popular cars were the 119 the 237 and the Dale Earnhardt of the track (Bobby Brack) drove the flying zerO .
There won’t be a black number 3, Sr’s mom said she didn’t wanna see a black number 3 that’s why Dillion has more colors to all the black ones he has but they need to keep the numbers on the door fr
Love centerlock hubs, sequential gearboxes, and road racing. I may start watching NASCAR racing again.
I’m convinced NASCAR wants it broken. Every decision they make just makes it harder to watch.
Yep.
Absolutely right. I want to watch...I make myself watch.. NASCAR.it really is going down hill. Getting tough to be a fan. Europeanizing something else that was totally American. NFL
has lost its way.
@@johnlothrop6680 how are they "Europeanizing" Nascar?
Haven't been able to follow NASCAR since February 18, 2001
American Rider That’s the day NASCAR died. I followed it for Jr. for as long as I could before I couldn’t take it anymore. I gave up just before he switched to Hendrick’s
Always love listening to Dale and how he offers his point of view.
I do miss when different paint schemes were something special. Like at the All-Star Race, Chevy Rock and Roll 400 with the Looney Tunes and Pepsi 400 at Daytona.
a lot of those special paints were still the same sponsor. they made it so expensive now that hardly anybody has the same sponsor for every race
I miss actual paint on the cars....not the wraps we have now. It's definitely super cost effective, but I miss those paints on a car.
@@kenzschueler I know right? I kind of had to chuckle thinking about the wraps. Axalta is one of the longest running sponsors since back when it was Dupont on the car and they're known for automotive paint. Granted Hendrick still puts a base coat of paint on the body, but they put that wrap over it. Seems like kind of a middle finger to them in my opinion.
@@shawnconder4984 I thought Axalta made them paint the whole car and not a wrap?
I always get event T shirts at races and the 1st Chevy Rock and Roll in Richmond years back was great. It was the year they put out Gordon's chromillusion paint job. 1998?
5 lugs! I think this serves two purposes. 1, keeps the " stock" look and feel. 2, Adds challenge to pit crews on pit stops. A 1 lug tire no longer a "stock" car.
And NASCAR wonders why there losing so many fans! Keep it up and the drivers will be the only people at the track!
I stopped watching when they changed all the rules around after nextel cup. Love listening to this podcast tho
They loose fans because of the quality...not because of what car numbers may look like.
I have to confess I was not much of a JR fan until I started watching these programs and my attitude has completely changed. I always thought he was a spoiled kid and while talented was projected way above what he should have been. Now I can see why he has been so popular. Seems to be a very down to earth guy one could enjoy being around in any setting.
I feel the same passion in Dale's voice. For me growing up what gained my attention from NASCAR were the wheels, the big number etc. So for me I understand moving with the time. But I don't want to watch NASCAR in the future and not recognise the sport for what I used to love it for.
Any time I'm looking for my driver I look for the number,I'm with ya Jr!
Pitcrew skills are part of the sport. Keep 5 lugnuts.
Glad you brought that up about the lug nuts because I remember several times that you left the pits and had to come right back because of a loose lug nut . Thanks.
Fan forever.
The 30% loss of durability that Mike refers to is with loose lug nuts on the 18" wheel. I'd like to see A LOT of testing on short tracks and road courses to measure the durability of the "knock off" wheels. Those kind of tracks put much greater loads on the wheels than the big ovals do. Sure, open wheel and IMSA have used them for years but, the cars are also much lighter. Therefore, they don't put the same loads on the wheels in turns. I think they also use carbon fiber, not aluminum. As for number placement, I basically agree with Jr. but I have another reason for not taking it off the side of the car. SAFETY!!! Imagine being a spotter trying to find your car in traffic. It might not be bad at a short track where you can always see the roof number. On the other hand, it could be a HUGE problem if the cars are on the back stretch at a big track. If you can't see the roof number, there's no way you'll see a small number on the quarter window or behind the tire. The problem would be compounded in cases where the same sponsor, Bass Pro Shops for example, is on multiple cars in the same race. The spotter might clear his/her driver while looking at the wrong car.
The cars are too heavy. Lighter would be a good change IMO.
Screw the survey!!!!!!!!!!! Put JR on the board
Wouldn't it affect the spotters to have smaller or no number on the side panels?
Spotters are up high so I'd guess they us the roof numbers more.
It'd effect people on pit road identifying their car
@@sirnickels9979 Their car will pull into its pit box, same as normal, so...
One of the few podcasts or shows on RUclips that isnt littered with ads. Thanks Jr. for not being a greedy prick and making an advertisement with a little bit of a podcast sprinkled in.
Why isn't there a one lug on domestic car's. I would love it. Imagine how long it would take to change a tire. Especially in the RAIN that would be awesome. 👍
Single points of failure are less than ideal for passenger transportation.
Look at any old car with wire wheels. They have a single lug and a big hammer in the trunk to whack the ears of the lug.
When my daughter was little she never referred to Dale Jr. (who was, and always will be my favorite driver for many reasons) by Dale, Earnhardt, Dale Jr, Junior, etc. She referred to him as "Number 8." Before she ever understood NASCAR she would watch races with me, ask questions, and get excited when she saw the Dupont car pass someone. She became a Jeff Gordon fan because of the Dupont color scheme and I loved that. Since she was two years old she always referred to Jeff Gordon as "My Driver" and Dale Jr. as "Number 8." My daughter is 19 years old now, and still, to this day, if I bring up a racing story from when she was little she still calls Gordon, "My Driver" and Dale Jr. "Number 8." The point of this story is the numbers matter. The number defines the driver. Leave the numbers on the center of the doors, and the roof of the cars. NASCAR went from a grassroots sport to a multi BILLION dollar company in 50 years, and they didn't have to change car number location to achieve that status. As The Beatles once sang, "Let It Be" NASCAR please follow suit, just let it be.
I think the single lug is likely safer (i.e., less likely to result in loose--or missing--wheel incidents), so I'm good with it. I don't care for the number location changes, and I agree that the sport has suffered from the loss of brand identity. My favorite years are the 80s and the 90s when the Fords looked like the actual Thunderbird you could buy and drive (which I did!), as did the Chevys, Pontiacs, Buicks, Dodges, and Plymouths.
You are spot on . The 80's and especially the 90's had the best racing . I can remember Geoff Bodine and Dale Earnhardt at Riverside working the heck out of their cars sawing at the wheel in the later 80's trying to pass one another , just fantastic racing . After about 2003 it really took a dive and it never really recovered. They have tried dumb things with the segments, chase , all to try to make up for what was lost on the track .
@@444MH Amen, brother; Amen.
I agree with Jr, the number is a brand. The size, font, and location of the Car Number should NOT be changed.
It's called, "Do you want to sink the ship for one mission?"
I just wanna say that i love these podcasts. Great great conversations.
NASCAR keeps making changes that screw things up worse every time they make another change
Exactly, making changes have unintended consequences. I would have stayed with the five lug myself , but problem isnt the lug to me it's the wheels. Racing is already poor so how are you going to beat and bang with aluminum wheels that shatter? I wish they would fix the racing first. This reminds me of the COT car when they first went down that road.
Not lately.
DJ how I respect you my man.. I'm old school and haven't watched a Nascar race since your Dad passed ... loved that man, hard hitting and never afraid to speak the God's honest truth.....I miss him and I miss you as well,great champion and competitor....miss you my man as well, peace.
As a hardcore Motorsports fanatic, I prefer the 1 lug nut thing over the garbage gimmicks like the awful playoffs and stages. At least the 1 lug nut thing is a racing thing and not a gimmick
Great topic I totally agree on the number. I really don't want to see the number get replaced by the sponsor logo on the door. Sponsor logos belong on the hood and the rear deck. As a fan, I want the full size number on the side of the car so I can tell where my car is as the field goes by. Plus, if you think about the most iconic cars, the sponsors name was always right there on the rear quarterpanel. For example #43 STP, Cale's #28 Hardees, Dale's #3 Goodwrench, Darrel's #17 Tide Clean Machine, #6 Mark's Valvoline, #8 Budweiser. I could go on forever. A good paint scheme goes a long way. Also agree on the lug nuts. Single lug nut isn't new, Speed Racer even had one. Don't like COT, keep the chassis and go back to manufacturer's body style with templets. And can I have a round of wedge please. I miss that adjustment.
Tradition doesn't seem to matter to Nascar. They forgot about the fans. Keep ripping seats out because you are going to continue losing fans. Racing for only the sponsors will be the ultimate downfall.
This x1000!
I am not even a nascar man but I have so much damn respect for Jr. I watch this videos & I enjoy the hell out of them.
screw nascar some body needs to start a new series
I wanna see a "senior" circuit where all of the talented drivers that are no longer in nascar suit up again and run the short tracks around the country. Edwards, Kahne, Biffle, Kenseth, McMurray, Gordon, Stuart, Junior, etc should still be in race cars every Sunday doing what they were born to do.
@@williamcarver9832 Biffle shows up to the 24 Hours of Lemons sometimes, runs an old Crown Vic. That's the purest "racing for the sake of racing" you're going to get. I hope to race against him sometime.
I totally agree
They have a monopoly
It would be cool if NASCAR held an annual "turn back the clock" vintage race once a year. They could highlight a different period each year and make it a part of a race weekend and have a limited lap race, mainly for show, with vintage cars from that time period just to expose the current NASCAR fans to some of NASCAR's rich history. Imagine seeing a 1970 Dodge Daytona, Plymouth Superbird and Ford Torino at, Talladega once again. Even if held to 3/4 speed that would still be around 150 MPH for these cars. Just a dream but a good one.
I am old enough to remember, late 1970's early 80's, when the cars were closer to stock and you could actually see the differences when the cars would be side by side or single file coming at you. I miss that with today's cars. There were also more brands back then also. Gone are the Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles etc.
Hey Jr, I can agree with you about everything you talked about👍
But, in my opinion the race teams should be able to have some leeway to tweak some aspects of the cars( spoilers, splitters) I think that would create more competitiveness, and put a degree of traditional stock car racing back into the sport, what do you think?
My 1960-70’s Corvettes, Jaguars and 427 SC Cobra had the single nut with spinners. I didn’t have any problems with them but the spinner did get outlawed because it did stick out. The number as you say Dale is the only real identifier. When the car goes by at 200mph the colors are a blur and we need the number the same size so we can identify the drivers. Sliding it back a little is ok but let’s not destroy the ability of seeing the number when you are going 200. I also like it big on to roof.
We have to respectfully disagree with Dale Jr. here. When Dale Sr. ran his #3 all black car, it was one of the main reasons why superstars were created in NASCAR in the 80's. Fans related to the driver, the number, the personality and the familiar paint scheme every week that they loved. With so many teams changing paint schemes every week now, it's very tough for fans to relate and love a car by only a number, sponsor and name. Imagine if the General Lee came out with the same number, Bo & Luke Duke driving but a different color than the familiar orange on TV every week. Would the TV show have been so popular?
Am I missing something? Thats pretty much what he said. From what I can tell you agree with him.
@@tylerboyles4504 From Dale Jr, "the number is the identity" of the car. Our post clearly states the complete package including, number, driver, personality, sponsors, color and paint scheme is the identity of the car.
I think when they're all together, with the similar paint schemes. The difference won't be obvious as it is now
Just one more facet of automotive character to throw away. The culmination of these things is why the stands are empty.... NASCAR doesn't appeal to CAR people anymore.
You're a baby.
GFY
@@johnwilburn Fact: attendance and ratings are on par with the 90's
Also fact: You're still a baby.
General Winner Steve Fact: ratings have dropped 40% in 3 years. Not even close to on par, tf are you smoking?
@@TellaSignTV The 90's, learn to read you idiot. Expecting the ratings swell in the 00's to maintain is asinine, especially when you so many high profile retirements in a short timeframe.
From the fans point of view we're looking for the number on side of car of our favorite driver which mines always been 3 and 8 Earnhardt never really think about the sponsor honestly but I thank the sponsors for the support
I know you need sponsors but when they take over completely and Bristol becomes the Jimmy Chucks Potato Chip 250, I am totally lost.
More like "The Jimmy Chucks Lays Extreme BBQ Potato Chip 250 at Pepsi Raceway presented by Viagra". HUH?
@@williamstern4771 Its getting like college football they have a bowl for everything, I been waiting for the "KOTEX BOWL" or maybe will have "The Honey Pot Tampons 250" Presented by Heinz Ketchup LOL
@@alanbaeth5542 American Standard Toilet Bowl.
You put the number on the door, 4 lug nuts 2 big balls. That’s NASCAR!!!!!!
Nothing stock why does the damn lug pattern matter
Some Chevy cars have 4 lugs! Some cars don't even use 5 lug nuts!
Just another reason we miss you, tradition does matter. I just hope they don't forget what got them where they are. The fans,
ticket sales, and viewing audience. Oh yeah and most popular drivers. Keep up the good work JR.
Welcome to France car....it's not stock car winston cup racing anymore and has got a bit boring a little more each year sadly. Restrictor plates was the beginning of the end.
I haven,t been this excited since the c.o.t
Almost has the feel of an I-Roc car. Hope they look more like an production car.
Gotta love Dale Jr.
This might actually get me back into watching races. That and if they do away with the playoff bullshit. Are they still doing that?
Sadly, yes.
Powder blue #43, Black #3, Rainbow #24. Iconic.
Steel wheels is what makes stock cars look cool.
It is much more entertaining to watch a 5 lug nascar pitstop. Than a single lug IndyCar or F1 pitstop.
European fan.
Less time in the pits = more time on the track.
My argument against the single lug is that it reduces the opportunity for a "mistake". When cars come into the pits and there are fractions of a second that separate a good stop from a not-so-good stop; often it is how efficiently the tire changer hits all of the lugs. Reducing the total number of lugs from 20 to 4, you eliminate some of the differences between a good crew and a great crew. Also, I can envision this makes the 2-tire vs. 4-tire calls easier. If you can change all 4-tires in the time it takes to get the necessary fuel into the car, you will do it. Today, crew chiefs are having to think about "how much gas do I need? How many tires can I change in that time? If 2-tires, how does that affect handling?". I think with the single lug, more often than not, they could change all four in the time it takes to get the required fuel.
At this rate in 10 years NASCAR will just be an iracing league ffs.
Tbh I think the ratings are going up. I mean....this is the first time I have made a point to watch races since 2010
@@PurpleCrownVic Same here. Last time I've watched an entire race was 2012 until this season. And no, it wasn't because of the Newman wreck. I started with the ARCA race at Daytona and have watched all of the ARCA, Truck, Xfinity and Cup races thus far.
Edit: Actually, the reason I came back was because I heard about Brian France no longer being in charge so now I'm interested in finding out where NASCAR goes.
10 years????? Try ONE
If they change the number on the door I WILL BE FURIOUS!!!!!!!! (been watching since I was 5 years old)
NASCAR keep screwing around with stuff and see how many more fans you can lose.
Tom Noble Dry up those tears man it’s gonna be okay
I stopped watching when they done the segment BS wth is that crap and all these rich kids drive now most never touched a wrench in there life they never even held the flashlight for daddy growing up
I think the current version shows more distinct difference between the manufacturers! And I like like that! Like JR said... slide it a little front or back, it allows for an additional sponsor logo. But don’t move it out of site or make it smaller!
Let's face it, the majority of NASCAR fans don't have the mental capacity to adapt to change. Just listen to the ones that call in to the shows on SiriusXM. It's like listening to Alabama fans on Finebaum's show.
LMFAO love this
Says a hardley person!
Dale Jr. Should be greatful for Mike Davis, he us a great speaker, a smart business mind, he is also a very very good PR man..I am betting a great friend, he has help Jr, in many ways we all dont even know about...He also created a calm down Jimmy Spencer, if you can believe that!! MIKE DAVIS. MIKE Is an unsung hero in NASCAR CUP RACING over the years...Dale we all know is grateful, and I think he does really appreciate Mike!! ONE DAY SHOULD BE COMMENDED BY THE NASCAR ORG. !! HE IS A GOOD MAN, AND A JOB WELL DONE..
Change the name from NASCAR to NAAR since there is no Stock Car in the field any more.
They needed to change it in 1970 then.
George Coffey
Rename the cars
*Daytona cars*
Haha! Pay for a ticket once then you'll be on the email list! Lol Love this podcast.
I don't like the single lug idea I'm more of a traditional 5 lug person but NASCAR's f****** it all up
@John Haas TROLL
@@alanbaeth5542 ok boomer
The number is everything
If you’re taking away the lug nuts, why even have pit stops be part of it. Just stop the race service the cars and start again. Those pit crews are athletes and should be allowed to compete. Just take all the human element out and run them like giant RCs.
John Haas , yeah I agree, money rules, whoever has the most has the best crew.
The single lug eliminates the skills that many pit crew members have built up to separate themselves and their crew when changing tires. How much money will they lose now that more people can do the same task at an equivalent level? How many people spend years perfecting a craft are now expendable?
When I get new tires, I don't pull a tire out of the trunk. I take it to a crew and that crew puts the car on a jack and swaps out the tires. Nascar does that in an expedited manner. Keep the Stock in Stock Car as much as possible.
The more they change sh*t like this the less i feel like watching Nascar
I don't really watch it anymore and my desire is less and less with every stupid change they make
The #'s moved fwd makes tons pf sense in a sponsor driven sport. Concerning the new wheels/lugs seems to me that's created more problems than it's solved.
Why don't we just have ROBOTS service the car in the pits?????? While this is not a hill I want "to die on" it is a hill I can walk away from.What else can they do to speed up the decline of NASCAR? Just for a side note, when they go to electric or hybrid cars I will RUN away from that hill.
Next gen car might just have an electric motor in it for a "push to pass" much like F1 has. A quick boost of acceleration that takes 15 or 20 laps to recharge through braking. So you better get your running shoes ready and call yourself Forrest Gump, because you might be running for a while.
@@ryantruax4635 F1 doesn't have push to pass, IndyCar does. F1 has a hybrid system with a limited deployment per lap. IndyCar has a limited amount of push to pass per race.
Ryan 1 drivers have a button for a quick boost like for example you push a button on the steering wheel and it gives more deployment from the mgu-k for around 3-5 seconds to overtake someone but in the end it still uses some of your lap energy as well as energy from the battery so it’s kinda like 2 steps forward 1 step back but I highly doubt nascar would go that low 😂 (at least I hope they won’t)
Dale Jr. You Do An Awesome Job Bro, and I Enjoy Listening To Ur Interesting Shows, I Just Wish I Coulda Had The Oppurtunity That Some Of You Guys Had In The Sport Of Racing, I Believe In My Heart I Would've Paved A Path and Built My Own Racing Legend Stats, All I Ever Wanted Was Just A Chance To Prove My Ability That I Can Wheel A Racecar, but Thanks To Identity Theft I Never Got That Chance Dale Jr. but When I Came To Talladega and I Was Wearing Your Dad's Black #3 Intimidator Shirt With Da Sleeves Cut Out and When You Came Outta Turn #4 You Seen Me By The Fence With Dat Shirt On and You Revved Your Engine Up At Me, That Was A Great Feeling I Had That Touched My and It Felt Like My Blood Line Was Driving That Racecar On This Hott, Sunny Beautiful Day In Talladega, Alabama and I Wanna Thank You For That Moment On That Particular Day, and If I'm Not Mistaking You Won Da Race Dat Day Dale Jr. -- Do You Recall That Particular Day In Dega, Anyhow Keep Doing What Your Doing Boss, We All Love Ya Here In Mississippi, and Can't Wait To See Ya On Dirt In Da Late Models, I'd Love To Race Dirt With Ya Someday Bro, So Keep Me In Mind If Ya Need Some Random Help, I've Raced All My Life #38, and From Foot Races To BMX Bicycles To Flat-Track Motorcycles To Flat Track 3-Wheelers To Odyssey's To 4 cyl. Modifiers To Pure Stock To Street Stock To 250cc/270cc Micro Sprints Back To Street Stocks To Outlaw Street Stocks To 600cc Mini Sprints To 360 Carbureted Cajun Sprints Back To 600cc Mini Sprints and NOTE: If "Chad Frits" In Mooresville, NC Would've Sent The 600 Roller 2012 HYPER That My Lil'Brother Paid'em For $5,000 -- I Would Be Racing With The Midget Series Rite Now Dale, I Lost My Lil'Brother (7-2-2018), He Came Up Missing and Nobody Has Seen'em Or Found'em Yet Sir and That 2012 600 HYPER Roller Is All I Had To Remember My Baby Brother Dale, and This Guy "Chad Frits" Has Refused To Send The Car or Our Money Back, So If You Could Giv'em A Call To Encourage Him To Do The Right Thing I'd Greatly Appreciate Dat Phone Call Dale, He's Not Giving Mooresville A Very Good Name By Screwing People Over Like This, He's The "ERT" 600cc Engine Builder (One Of Many), and He's Gotten Several In Florida, He Built A $7,000 ERT 600cc Racing Engine For A Lumberton, Ms. Officer Of The Law, It Blew Up In The Hot Laps and He Would Not Honor His Work, Anyhow I'm Just Hoping You Would Contact The Man and Ask'em To Send The Mini Sprint My Lil'Brother Paid For Well Over 2 Years Ago Dale Jr. -- PLEASE SIR?
His Contact Info:
"Chad Frits"
(704) 302-6435
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"Little Joe West",#38
(228) 363-3145
THANK YOU DALE JR.
I HOPE & PRAY TO GET RESULTS BRO, GOD BLESS YOU, AMY, and UR FAMILY BOSS!!!
Intimidator Jr.#888
Westimidator#389
My Lil'Brother Was #39 Dale, and I Keep'em In All Things I Do, His Name Is:
"Jefferson Raymond West",#39>DOB: (4-7-72) -- Please Keep Him and Us In Your Prayers Bro, Our Mother Had A Stroke On 9-26-2019, and Our Lil'Sister Is Handicap (Special Needs Person), and We Lost Our Dad "Bill West" On 3-26-1999, So I'm Left All Alone Taking Care Of Mom & Sister Living Up To The Promise I Made To My Dad 21 Years Ago Next Month On March 25th -- (The Night Before He Died),That Me and Lil'Brother Would Take Good Care Of Mom & Sister Cause We've All They've Got Left Is The Exact Words My Daddy Used To Us Boys, and I've Lost Many Girlfriends Due To The Fact Of My Promise To Dad, My Devotion & Dedication To Mom & Sister, and The Fact That I Had To Move In With My Mother & Sister To Properly Take Care Of Their Handicap Needs, My Life Don't Begin Until God Calls'em Home Dale Jr. -- I Felt The Need To Share This With You & Amy, and Maybe Someday I'll Get To Meet You & Amy and Shake Your Hand Bro, I've Got The #3, #8, & #88 Jackets and #3 & #8 Pics On My Wall As Well, That's How My Number Became #38, but It Was #2 Bro -- Pretty Cool Huh?, I Can Only Hope God Will Lead Ya To Read This Dale and You Take Care Bro...Peace Out!!!
Respectfully, LJW#38
AKA: "Speedy", (Hyrum) Was My Great, Great Grandfather Dale!!
And, My Son "Joey" Was Born (4-11-88), Earnhardt Racing Technology, 4-Life!!!
PS>>>THANKS A MILLION DALE JR...
"38·Mafia·77· Motorsports·39"
need to start a Real Stock Car Racing Series
I love this. From a perspective of a former road racer, this just simple. I do get the nostalgia. From my view....The "stock car" should still be "stock". All underneath? Do it. Length, width....I would love to see original...
NASCAR has lost its identity with the Driver and Number....it's been this way for over a decade. When I was a kid, if my Dad said a number, I knew the driver. Now? I have to think. You can't mess with the number....it's what ties it all together. We need to get back to that way...you know who is associated with what car.
disagree 100%, most if not ALL nascar fans know what number is who. i think in this case the problem is you and the numbers. every nascar fan know who the 11 is, 18, 9 and all the big dogs. Now if you ask me who drives the 47 anymore (as AJ is out) i dont know, but i know its a JGT Daugherty car
@@supersevenn so you disagree with me to agree with me? Think about it for a second, yes, the "big dogs" can be easy to remember but in the 90s, I knew every driver. Every number cause it never changed. You only have 3-5 drivers that are associated with their numbers. Hamlin, Busch, Chase is only associated cause of his Dad (My favorite driver). You say 20, I'm going to say Stewart. You say 10, I say Ricky Rudd. You say 33, I say Harry Gant. My point is this, these drivers i listed took over number from drivers in the 50s-80s. They assumed them and made it theirs, we associated these drivers to the car number. 3 is Sr, 9 is Awesome Bill, 2 is Rusty, 7 is Geoff Bodine, 18 is Bobby Labonte. The driver's since 2010 haven't done that, with the exception of Kyle Busch and Hamlin. But they've been around since the early to mid 2000s. If you know the driver's now to the numbers, then good ...but the issue is, majority of NASCAR's fan base is still the older crowd. We've been taught once in the Early 90s but we are still seeing our drivers in those cars....meaning these new kids don't have an identity to the numbers, not like those guys did in our time at least. If NASCAR moves the number or makes it seem insignificant, you're taking away a part of the sport that true traditionalist LOVE. That's my main point.....these kids these days can't lose that aspect of the cars cause they'll get lost to the fans. It's "MAN AND MACHINE"...thats what we love. Not just the man.
I get that but it’s hard with such a large field. But for me #2 is Rusty #3 is Earnhardt #6 is Martin and #24 is Jeff Gordon. I miss the 90s and early 2000s NASCAR. Still watching now though!
@@Talisayin the field is smaller now than then.....
Scott FromGA 40 cars is still a ton of numbers. Especially when you only go up to 99. It’s almost half.
1,000% agreed with your opening statement.
The franchise is going to do what they want no matter what...I'll be over yonder at the local track watching real cars race.
Mike was straight up having childhood flashbacks at 11:37