How GOOD was Aipom & Ambipom ACTUALLY? - History of Aipom & Ambipom in Competitive Pokemon

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  • @kurtislachance9958
    @kurtislachance9958 3 года назад +1930

    That moment when your pre-evolved form gets banned to LC Ubers while you're so bad that your only set is a warning to not be used

    • @TAKirbyStar
      @TAKirbyStar 3 года назад +120

      Smogon moment

    • @isokey9035
      @isokey9035 3 года назад +28

      i hate when this happens 😒

    • @Bulletproofbouchy
      @Bulletproofbouchy 3 года назад +129

      Love that LC is being covered in these videos now lol

    • @Bioniclema90
      @Bioniclema90 3 года назад +13

      I've literally never heard of that tier until now XD

    • @Drakorre
      @Drakorre 3 года назад +37

      That's basically the ponyta and rapidash situation

  • @scathingtake1376
    @scathingtake1376 3 года назад +2634

    Aipom: *Gets Skill Link*
    Aipom: "You saved me...why?"
    Gamefreak: "Mmm...Monkey."

  • @jayanths1221
    @jayanths1221 3 года назад +2217

    Can't believe it took Gamefreak until the 7th generation to give Aipom tail slap. I mean, it's literally got a tail with hands on the end of it. If it was a Digimon, it'd probably be called Tailslapmon...

    • @ultimapower6950
      @ultimapower6950 3 года назад +141

      Tailslapmon digivolves into Deadwightmon
      Hours later
      Deadwightmon digivolves into apomzamon

    • @joshuawilliams4741
      @joshuawilliams4741 3 года назад +161

      Brought to you by the same people that didn’t give Gallade the move Sacred Sword.
      I mean, it’s known as the Blade Pokémon.... and it’s a Fighting type.

    • @MrZahsome
      @MrZahsome 3 года назад +70

      And when it did get it, it became the LC equivalent of mega Rayquaza in Ubers lmao. Maybe they knew of its power already.

    • @maromania7
      @maromania7 3 года назад +96

      I mean, they forgot to give lickitung LICK in its first gen

    • @arlen7726
      @arlen7726 3 года назад +79

      @@joshuawilliams4741 they also refuse to give Gastrodon the move Gastro-acid, which would be some seriously interesting added defensive utility

  • @Macaulyn_97
    @Macaulyn_97 3 года назад +1695

    Aipom: from "worse than Farfetch'd" to "Little Cup equivalent to Mega Rayquaza". That is what I call a redemption arc.

    • @juannaym8488
      @juannaym8488 3 года назад +123

      I think Venomoth still got the best redemption arc in Pokemon
      From one of the worst Pokemon in gen 1 to becoming better and better with each passing gen

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 3 года назад +11

      @@juannaym8488 zzzzzvenomoth

    • @Oscarus4250
      @Oscarus4250 3 года назад +22

      @@juannaym8488 Well... Venomoths can kill even dragons, so...

    • @goldenhydreigon4727
      @goldenhydreigon4727 3 года назад +16

      @@Oscarus4250
      *Bold words for someone in Modest Focus Sash Hydreigon's Fire Blast range*

    • @Oscarus4250
      @Oscarus4250 3 года назад +17

      @@goldenhydreigon4727 I meant "Twitch Plays Pokemon" situations where lv 39 (I think) Venomoth defeated Lance's Dragonite

  • @Random-yg1fi
    @Random-yg1fi 3 года назад +948

    Gotta love how the best thing ambipom did was give Aipom an evolution so it can proceed to wreck shop in little cup for a couple of generations

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 3 года назад +37

      Porygon-Z: First time?

    • @Gnolte
      @Gnolte 3 года назад +22

      @@jaschabull2365 and dusknoir

    • @gojirarex5138
      @gojirarex5138 3 года назад +4

      @@jaschabull2365 porygon-z is not bad its not as common as porygon2 but its good offensively

    • @michaelkowal3230
      @michaelkowal3230 3 года назад

      Well, in gen 5, when tail slap was introduced, it was a signature move of the mincinno line

    • @gojirarex5138
      @gojirarex5138 3 года назад

      @@michaelkowal3230 no buizel and vulpix got it by breedong in gen 5

  • @sayvionwashington1939
    @sayvionwashington1939 3 года назад +650

    Aipom in Gen 2: Arceus, why'd you make me this way?
    Arceus: Wait 20 years homie, you'll see.

    • @tylercasea
      @tylercasea 3 года назад +71

      Arceus's plan

    • @sayvionwashington1939
      @sayvionwashington1939 3 года назад +72

      Arceus: Ight'. It's been 20 years. Lets check on Ai-
      Wait, why do I hear "The only thing they fear is you?"

    • @ultimapower6950
      @ultimapower6950 3 года назад +2

      Yep

    • @mavi3348
      @mavi3348 3 года назад +1

      Arceus didn't exist in gen 2 lol

    • @gabrielalexandre4463
      @gabrielalexandre4463 3 года назад +17

      @@mavi3348 yeah, the god of pokemon was created at gen 4 and thus, it Cant exist in Early Gens, because it doesnt make apart of the history ;-;

  • @bialex8083
    @bialex8083 3 года назад +458

    5:06
    " *Nate's Mismagius used Shadow Ball!*
    *It doesn't affect Kate's Ambipom...*
    Nate: GoOd JoB, MiSmAgIuS!"

    • @wovercomet9412
      @wovercomet9412 3 года назад +7

      🤦‍♂️🤣

    • @jamesgiles4517
      @jamesgiles4517 3 года назад +14

      Maybe it was choiced or ambipom switched into it

    • @bialex8083
      @bialex8083 3 года назад +34

      @@jamesgiles4517 I think Ambipom switched into Shadow Ball, then the trainer said that as he tried to retrieve Mismagius ; but the way the footage was cut makes it pretty funny

    • @D-S-G.
      @D-S-G. 3 года назад

      It be like that.

    • @Hip-Gnosis1134
      @Hip-Gnosis1134 3 года назад

      @@D-S-G. I had no idea what your name meant, so I looked it up. Still have no idea what’s going on 😂

  • @cybernnic
    @cybernnic 3 года назад +1662

    So basically Ambipom's last three generations are the perfect representation of the meme "suffering from success."

    • @Keds1995
      @Keds1995 3 года назад +94

      Tier-dropping failed successfully?

    • @asdfrozen
      @asdfrozen 3 года назад +105

      Pokeaim even had an "Ambipom to the top" campaign that temporarily put it in gen 7 UU.

    • @mrperson9838
      @mrperson9838 3 года назад +5

      Yes

    • @ActualTrash8
      @ActualTrash8 2 года назад

      It’s only been around for 3 gens

    • @SHSLCosmosisSpeedruns
      @SHSLCosmosisSpeedruns 2 года назад

      @@ActualTrash8 uhhh what?

  • @Oliver-uz1fs
    @Oliver-uz1fs 3 года назад +588

    "it was entirely outclassed by farfetch'd"
    Ouch, that hurts
    Edit: and it ended being compared as the deoxys speed or the mega rayquaza in LC, what a nice improvement

    • @silverrey7379
      @silverrey7379 3 года назад +38

      Can't believe that the same mon that was outclassed by fucking farfetch'd was also compared to fucking mega rayquaza

    • @axlr8deathpls294
      @axlr8deathpls294 3 года назад +19

      @@silverrey7379 Like in the wynaut video *does this mean farfetch'd = aipom = Mega Rayquaza*

    • @amejarelee2618
      @amejarelee2618 3 года назад +1

      Ya that sucks

    • @cybernnic
      @cybernnic 3 года назад +5

      To be fair, at least acording to FSG, farfetch'd was top-tier at the baton pass archtype in GSC NU. It would be worse if it was compared to ledian.

    • @Oliver-uz1fs
      @Oliver-uz1fs 3 года назад +1

      @@cybernnic as the first comment says, is not just compared to be worse than farfetch'd, it also was compared to both deoxys attack and MEGA RAYQUAZA

  • @TalkingVidya
    @TalkingVidya 3 года назад +1479

    You know a Pokémon had a bad start when their first two gens are covered in less than 4 minutes

    • @Hnui03
      @Hnui03 3 года назад +38

      Show this to someone who watched this channel 2 years ago and they'd be in shock with hoe good that was XD

    • @maromania7
      @maromania7 3 года назад +34

      It took a minute in a half excluding the intro. poor aipom XD

    • @SkydrawnIV
      @SkydrawnIV 3 года назад +7

      Wow! That never occurred to me! Thanks for pointing that out, I never would have known!

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 3 года назад +1

      No

    • @cocomunga
      @cocomunga 3 года назад +3

      Well they gave it nothing. It was just a part of the game where it was up to the player to decide if they should use it or not. Like Onix and Farfetchd in Gen 1, it was a bad idea.

  • @13thephantom
    @13thephantom 3 года назад +539

    Ambipom got the worst end of the stick.. It's legit crying "PLEASE LET ME DIE" but the fans won't let it

    • @microwave8931
      @microwave8931 3 года назад +16

      It's cute though

    • @mercyaspirast.agbayani477
      @mercyaspirast.agbayani477 3 года назад +96

      Ambipom: “Why did you choose me not to fall down a tier?”
      Fans: *HMMMM MONKE*

    • @N12015
      @N12015 3 года назад +24

      And that's not even mentioning the time it was UU for some stupid reason.

    • @Birruaze
      @Birruaze 3 года назад +4

      I plead guilty 🥺

    • @greyscaleadaven
      @greyscaleadaven 3 года назад +4

      @@N12015 Lmao I remember that was Joey way back then

  • @EV_Comics
    @EV_Comics 3 года назад +739

    You forgot to mention the Ambipom UU incident of 2018. The moment everyone on Smogon realized how easily the tiers could be manipulated by a single content creator's will.

    • @fransgreidanus5678
      @fransgreidanus5678 3 года назад +16

      What happened?

    • @snarls3760
      @snarls3760 3 года назад +7

      Oh cool

    • @EV_Comics
      @EV_Comics 3 года назад +411

      @@fransgreidanus5678 PokeaimMD did a series called Ambipom to the top, where he used Ambipom for an entire month in UU and encouraged his viewers to do the same. This inflated Ambipom's usage and it did indeed rise to UU. He did this with Mamoswine as well, until the Smogon mods told him to stop wrecking their system.

    • @fransgreidanus5678
      @fransgreidanus5678 3 года назад +85

      @@EV_Comics Aaah interesting. Damn, it is really easy to manipulate the system

    • @spinceiling7442
      @spinceiling7442 3 года назад +164

      @@EV_Comics I remember this lmao. Smogon was so pissed

  • @bowmain1577
    @bowmain1577 3 года назад +381

    Also, Aipom played a big role in the second generation pokemon manga as golds partner pokemon!

  • @Zack-dx1cl
    @Zack-dx1cl 3 года назад +97

    Aipom puberty in a nutshell:
    Pre-puberty: Outclassed by Farfetch'd
    Post-puberty: The Mega-Rayquaza of LC.

  • @nbr6116
    @nbr6116 3 года назад +262

    Video about Competitive Ambipom: "It's just too frail"
    Meanwhile Showdown Random Battle Players: *Nervous sweating*

    • @TheBlueArmageddon
      @TheBlueArmageddon 3 года назад +4

      I play random in Showdown, but I don't understand your comment

    • @amnaamin8153
      @amnaamin8153 3 года назад +3

      Glad somebody mentioned this lmao

    • @remainreva8683
      @remainreva8683 3 года назад +39

      random team ambipom is a menace.

    • @nbr6116
      @nbr6116 3 года назад +48

      @@TheBlueArmageddon Ambipom is a menace in Randoms. Levels are evened out, so it's not _as_ frail as it would be in regular level 100 settings and it's still blazing fast and can mess your team up real quick.
      Just the other day it destroyed my Tangrowth with Life Orb Fake Out and one Return. This things not messing around

    • @HannibalKantter
      @HannibalKantter 3 года назад +11

      @@nbr6116 Yeah, and it also has access to Tail Slap, which will hit hard with Skill Link and even harder if you hit 4 or 5 times with Technician

  • @patroka
    @patroka 3 года назад +229

    My experience with Ambipom:
    Fake Out
    Last Resort
    Last Resort
    Last Resort...

    • @leonsk1787
      @leonsk1787 3 года назад +20

      So we may have battled before then lol

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 3 года назад +8

      Ambipom: *turns to pheromosa* I am your father!

    • @Gigafrosty
      @Gigafrosty 3 года назад +15

      I did this to a couple people way back in the 4th gen days. They refused to battle if any purple monkeys were involved. Good times.

    • @ActualTrash8
      @ActualTrash8 3 года назад +4

      *ghost, steel and rock types has entered the chat*

    • @pascalschwerdtmann4397
      @pascalschwerdtmann4397 3 года назад +1

      I gotta try this myself. It sounds hilarious.

  • @alexdehatter2151
    @alexdehatter2151 3 года назад +175

    Ambipom: “LET ME GO TO PU ALREADY!”
    Fans: “hehe monke”

  • @Crowgioh
    @Crowgioh 3 года назад +378

    I never realized how Aipom looked disturbing in gen 2
    Edit: for the people who keep mentioning Detective pikachu those aipoms are the terrifying ones

    • @ScuffedHits
      @ScuffedHits 3 года назад +28

      he looks like my mom after forgetting her coffee

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 3 года назад +32

      That's nothing compared to the ones from Detective Pikachu after they get high on R gas...

    • @asdfg3046
      @asdfg3046 3 года назад +4

      It looks like my sleep paralysis demon

    • @shadowbonbon3
      @shadowbonbon3 3 года назад +4

      He’s seen some stuff

    • @ScuffedHits
      @ScuffedHits 3 года назад +5

      @@shadowbonbon3 too much stuff

  • @cooperm4185
    @cooperm4185 3 года назад +541

    No mention of Joey forcing Ambipom into UU in Gen 7 leading to Smogon's new usage cut-offs that result in Pokemon needing much more usage in order to stay tiered? That was the most impressive thing the evolutionary line has ever done

    • @adamriley9241
      @adamriley9241 3 года назад +98

      Pokeaim is just built differently.

    • @hattruck8607
      @hattruck8607 3 года назад +14

      Legend

    • @Crusina
      @Crusina 3 года назад +8

      Links?
      Smogon or otherwise if possible lol

    • @kurtislachance9958
      @kurtislachance9958 3 года назад +1

      Any more info about this? Sounds interesting

    • @williamreinholdsson9965
      @williamreinholdsson9965 3 года назад +57

      Man I remember parttaking in this, literarly re-learning modern competetive Pokémon, just to prove Ambipom could be viable. Good times for sure

  • @peacelovemetal5197
    @peacelovemetal5197 3 года назад +103

    "3. SkarmBliss Counter"
    I'm dying

  • @Scopio007
    @Scopio007 3 года назад +74

    Never underestimate Skill Link, one of the most potentially broken abilities out there.

    • @zjzr08
      @zjzr08 3 года назад +22

      With LC too having small HP, the minimum damage gets amplified, too.

    • @gojirarex5138
      @gojirarex5138 2 года назад +4

      @@zjzr08 even like a 4× resist is taking st minimum around 20%

  • @yech3461
    @yech3461 3 года назад +238

    Fun Fact: This video doesn't mention how Ambipom actually rose up to UU for a brief period of time in generation 7

    • @acedekkYT
      @acedekkYT 3 года назад +16

      All thanks to pokeaimmd

    • @internetguy7319
      @internetguy7319 3 года назад +21

      because that was not because Ambipom was good in UU, but because a RUclipsr said so. People aren't exactly bright

    • @patrickstar8132
      @patrickstar8132 3 года назад +67

      @@internetguy7319 it still had merit to being discussed, as it was still a highlight in ambipom's career, and also was an important point of Smogon history as the incident changed the usage percentage needed for a pokemon to rise to a different tier.

    • @ItzDannyMac
      @ItzDannyMac 3 года назад +3

      Ambipom TTT my boy Joey made it happen :)

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 3 года назад

      @@patrickstar8132 No it's not

  • @WingedFish66
    @WingedFish66 3 года назад +40

    Found it strange how it took so long for the Aipom line to get Tail Slap considering they're the single most LITERAL mons to be associated with such a move

  • @simonealdeghi8369
    @simonealdeghi8369 3 года назад +98

    Second gen Aipom sprite stares directly into you soul

    • @wovercomet9412
      @wovercomet9412 3 года назад +3

      Aipom:🐒😬

    • @AnimeGames16
      @AnimeGames16 3 года назад +1

      At least it's not as bad as Detective Pikachu movie Aipom.

    • @JoetadXD
      @JoetadXD 3 года назад +1

      i was also gonna comment this, but its gen 3 sprite for me is more creepy

  • @effrumtheretardo
    @effrumtheretardo 3 года назад +58

    Smogon: we're blacklisting Ambipom from discussion and calling its only "set" DON'T USE AMBIPOM
    Pokeaim: and I took that personally
    Honestly trying to get the internet to stop using Ambipom was a sure-fire way to make the opposite happen.

    • @vanguardRailgun924
      @vanguardRailgun924 3 года назад +9

      Telling the internet “no” in general has that effect.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 3 года назад +3

      People will insist on being contrary, even when they shouldn't.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 3 года назад +2

      @@vanguardRailgun924 Rebellion of any kind will arise from such supposed tyranny.
      Look at anarchists, communists, goth culture, punk culture, or anything involving oppressed communities.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 3 года назад

      @@gengarzilla1685 Read my comment above, bud.

    • @gojirarex5138
      @gojirarex5138 2 года назад +3

      @@skeetermania3202 so telling new players that they shouldn't use a completely unviable pokemon that would hold them back is tyranny?

  • @Rangrok1k
    @Rangrok1k 3 года назад +56

    I really like seeing Little Cup. It makes me excited for when you eventually take on Mienshao, just so you can talk about LC Mienfoo.

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 3 года назад +5

      If only he talked about NFE mons like Rhydon, Electabuzz, Magmar, Togetic, Piloswine, Roselia and LC mons like Yanma, Misdreavus, Murkrow (outside of VGC), Sneasel, Gligar earlier
      i know Rhydon usually gets banned, but still

    • @afuyeas9914
      @afuyeas9914 3 года назад +8

      I'm really looking forward to the Mienshao video too as it's a perfect example of a pokemon that was given all the right tools right from the start making it a solid choice no matter the generation. And of course Mienfoo is one of the most dominant LC pokemon ever.

    • @coreyshapiro2440
      @coreyshapiro2440 3 года назад

      Mienfoo and all the other pokemon mentioned deserve to be banned from little cup for being too good. Then maybe there would be more than like 20 viable pokemon.

    • @CrazedKasaJizo
      @CrazedKasaJizo 2 года назад +1

      @@coreyshapiro2440 Mienfoo is the only thing keeping Ferroseed and Diglet from destroying the entire tier. As soon as Mienfoo is gone, Ponyta is the only good Ferroseed killer, and running flame charge JUST to outrun Diglett so it doesn’t revenge kill is dumb. Not to Mention Pawniard is even better, Abra will keep having to run Focus Punch just to counter it, while Abra also looses it’s value with Mienfoo gone. Mienfoo is amazing and necessary because it counters what would run absolutely rampant without it.

  • @Furitaurus
    @Furitaurus 3 года назад +24

    I like to imagine Aipom, after getting banned from little cup for being too game breaking, looking up to mega Rayquaza and saying 'did I do good in the end?' and mega Rayquaza saying 'You did great, little one.'

  • @Stony2103
    @Stony2103 3 года назад +134

    Last time I was this early, Joey took Ambipom to the top.

    • @tootsie_
      @tootsie_ 3 года назад +2

      He certainly did, didnt he

    • @MetalSam25
      @MetalSam25 3 года назад +9

      I remember those videos, little did Joey know that was the death sentence to Ambipom

  • @MrLuizilla
    @MrLuizilla 3 года назад +51

    Man now I feel bad for Ambipom, it can't even be bad in peace

  • @solaimanshahriar6202
    @solaimanshahriar6202 3 года назад +117

    Everyone: Let's do Arbok and finish Gen 1
    FSG: Aipom and Ambipom

    • @machmach6981
      @machmach6981 3 года назад +15

      Wait he's almost done with gen 1? Wow, just felt like yesterday I stumbled upon FSG in study hall at senior year. FSG needs to remake the Blastoise episode, back then he was focused on OU viability rather than viability in other tiers.

    • @coldore6734
      @coldore6734 3 года назад

      @@machmach6981 tbh i feel like if he's gonna remake a gen1 starter video,the first one should be charizard,both cuz its his first video and cuz charizard is my fave

    • @axlr8deathpls294
      @axlr8deathpls294 3 года назад +1

      @@coldore6734 Nah I feel like he would know charizard is pretty overrated and do the others first also *Hello Charizard fan let me introduce you to knife*

    • @coldore6734
      @coldore6734 3 года назад

      @@axlr8deathpls294 why the frick does everyone hate charizard,tbh at this point i basically hate everyone that hstes charizard cuz they sre such asses about it,you included

    • @axlr8deathpls294
      @axlr8deathpls294 3 года назад +1

      @@coldore6734 Charizard gets too much treatment like 2 megas plus the only starter in the galar dex before the Dlcs and a gigantamax form? Stfu just because your precious fucking fire dragon that isnt a dragon is generally agreed upon to get too much treatment smh such insecure idiots these days

  • @phoenixa4212
    @phoenixa4212 3 года назад +64

    Poor Arbok really getting the short end of the stick....

  • @dreadknight2439
    @dreadknight2439 3 года назад +32

    Joey should have talked about Ambipom for gen 7. For those in the know, you already know what I’m talking about.

  • @imrichiwc
    @imrichiwc 3 года назад +21

    Week 2 of being grateful that FSG now covers Little Cup.
    LET'S GOOOO

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 3 года назад +1

      If only he talked about NFE mons like Rhydon, Electabuzz, Magmar, Togetic, Piloswine, Roselia and LC mons like Yanma, Misdreavus, Murkrow (outside of VGC), Sneasel, Gligar earlier
      i know Rhydon usually gets banned, but still

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 3 года назад

      @@goGothitaLOL He talked about Murkrow outside Of VGC

  • @Galiaverse
    @Galiaverse 3 года назад +10

    Never has the saying "The grass isn't always greener on the other side" been so apt. Getting the evolution it so desperately needed, only for the _previous_ form to find that amazing success.

  • @ConnorLockhartYGO
    @ConnorLockhartYGO 3 года назад +54

    If Ambipom returns, it will be bad enough to drop to Untiered, but the playerbase will force it to stay in PU.

    • @CiderVG
      @CiderVG 2 года назад +3

      Monke

    • @CaptainJLinebeck
      @CaptainJLinebeck Год назад +1

      Well it's been confirmed for S/V DLC so we'll see

    • @pokefanalex9504
      @pokefanalex9504 Месяц назад

      Ironically it broke its streak and is actually good in PU
      Edit: Just checked 5th highest in PU at 15% usage as of this month

    • @ConnorLockhartYGO
      @ConnorLockhartYGO Месяц назад

      @@pokefanalex9504 I'll be damned

  • @josephhanicak7922
    @josephhanicak7922 3 года назад +42

    I find it funny how ambipom has two different amazing abilities

  • @orshteinbok7762
    @orshteinbok7762 3 года назад +28

    You should have mentioned Ambipom to the top, an unforgettable journey led by Pokeaim to land Ambipom in UU for a month

  • @BinhHoang-bj7sz
    @BinhHoang-bj7sz 3 года назад +22

    Aipom: I was outclassed by farfetched
    Also Aipom: I am the incarnate of Mega-Ray

  • @JP54704
    @JP54704 3 года назад +26

    Aimbipon: "So, being very popular is a good thing, right? Right?" *Sweats nervously*

  • @pulim-v
    @pulim-v 3 года назад +31

    Aipom: Hello Mawile from Pokemon
    Mawile: Hello Aipom from Pokemon
    Aipom: *evolves*
    Mawile: *mega evolves*

  • @underwhelmingasmr5004
    @underwhelmingasmr5004 3 года назад +9

    8:03 “a whopping 20 HP” is never a sentence that I’d think I’d hear

  • @AgsmaJustAgsma
    @AgsmaJustAgsma 2 года назад +2

    1:16 something about this sentence combined with the image of Farfetch'd jousting with his leek against Aipom gets me everytime.

  • @SpectreAce
    @SpectreAce 3 года назад +71

    Damn I was really hoping for Ambipom’s rise to UU with Ambipom to the Top. That was legendary. RUclipsr PokéAimMD had rallied the community to use Ambipom in Gen 7 UU. They had used Ambipom so much that it actually rose to UU. It was so silly and hilarious that Smogon had to change how to tier Pokémon so things like Ambipom wouldn’t happen again. I believe that has competitive notoriety, Ambipom being memes up to Gen 7 UU for a short period of time.

  • @someguy7582
    @someguy7582 2 года назад +2

    Ambipom was popular on the low ladder (and reviled by top players) because it had the highest floor and lowest ceiling of basically any Pokemon. It was nearly guaranteed to get off some chip damage with Fake Out + U-turn, so it would always do *something* in a game, even if it wasn't much. It helped that hyper offense (the playstyle that Ambipom matches up best against) dominates the low ladder because people just want to get the battles over with, and despite how heavily telegraphed it is, newbie opponents there would just let their frail Pokemon eat the Fake Out instead of just switching something bulkier in. But Ambipom's usefulness was an illusion; the opportunity cost of using it was not using a better offensive Pokemon that could do more than just Fake Out and dip, and its limitations become apparent as you start running into decent players with stall/balance teams.
    People would use it mostly as an all-purpose revenge killer, hitting a boosted sweeper with Fake Out, switching out and sacking a teammate, switching Ambipom in again, using Fake Out etc. until it was dead. A more skilled player would put an actual check to the sweeper on their team or use offensive pressure so they don't boost, but again, Ambipom was much easier to use if you were just starting out with Pokemon. Golisopod was used the same way when it came out, and competitive players dismissed it as Ambipom 2.0 until they realized that it can actually punish opponents that switch into something that resists its priority move.
    FWIW Ambipom was actually, genuinely good towards the end of Gen 5 UU, on the strength of Beat Up. Before the Knock Off buff, having a strong Dark move was the one thing it could claim over Mienshao and Cinccino.

  • @thescorchingpteranodon7986
    @thescorchingpteranodon7986 3 года назад +50

    Last time I was this early Aipom was still a fully evolved Pokémon.

  • @GingerNinja232
    @GingerNinja232 3 года назад +3

    Can't express how happy I am that Little Cup is being covered in these videos now! I've always wondered about the LC meta.

  • @Malamite
    @Malamite 3 года назад +3

    From "Outclassed by Far'Fetchd" to "The mega rayquaza of LC". What a journey.

  • @darcreave2683
    @darcreave2683 3 года назад +1

    I LOVE the Little Cup coverage now!

  • @aaronolson6736
    @aaronolson6736 3 года назад +16

    After Rise showed off Bishaten, I realized just how much potential they missed with the whole hand-tail trait.

  • @superzockertvyt9630
    @superzockertvyt9630 3 года назад +2

    0:10 FSG: where it captured fans hearts with its cuteness...
    Aipom: *stares into your soul*

  • @Epzilon12
    @Epzilon12 3 года назад +4

    The Ambipom to the top era of the mon being unable to be talked about is some the funniest tiering drama ever

  • @Lassoloc
    @Lassoloc 3 года назад +2

    i love these indepth comp analyses, these videos would make a great podcast i think

  • @CaptainJLinebeck
    @CaptainJLinebeck 3 года назад +18

    Aipom, the Mega Rayquaza of Little Cup

  • @codyhaase1741
    @codyhaase1741 3 года назад +1

    I love that you've been mentioning LC niches lately! I used to play that format so it's really cool being able to see that kinda content.

  • @euclideanspace2573
    @euclideanspace2573 3 года назад +5

    "The Mega Rayquaza of Little Cup" is one hell of a title to hold onto. Imagine just wrangling your opponent's entire team with that hand... tail... hand-tail.

  • @jordanhn6230
    @jordanhn6230 3 года назад +63

    Fun Fact: Dawn’s Aipom is actually Ash’s Aipom. Ash traded his Aipom in exchange for Dawn’s Buizel.

    • @craniifer
      @craniifer 3 года назад +5

      Probably my favorite trade in the whole anime.

    • @KahunaLagoona
      @KahunaLagoona 3 года назад +2

      Honestly, a bit of a gyp - Aipom worked out well for Ash's battle style and while the hint was there even in Aipom's capture episode that she wanted to be captured to get into contests, it turned out that Dawn really didn't use her much before evolving and then almost immediately sending her away.
      In exchange, Ash got Buizel which while a main battling mon was still overshadowed by Chimchar/Infernape, and Dawn had her team freed up for Togekiss down the line - which honestly should've been that nasty Togepi that would've been a good sense of writing to evolve into Togekiss instead of just given one for playing a prince and pauper scenario.
      Oh, and Ambipom upon leaving the anime never appeared again - except with some cameo in a movie. God, were the writers that against Ambipom? All she wanted to do was make people smile and be amazed, and for evolving her entire species got locked away.

    • @greyvanity
      @greyvanity 3 года назад +1

      @@KahunaLagoona her send off episode kinda sucked too. LIke the chero for pokemon pingpong is cool? but I love ambipom and it's one of m favorites so she could of AT LEAST got something cooler

    • @KahunaLagoona
      @KahunaLagoona 3 года назад +8

      @@greyvanity Someone later down the comments thread here said: "At least Ash gave Aipom to a close friend and not to some random guy who is blatantly obviously a con man Cough Cough Primeape Cough Cough"
      And I'm here thinking: "Yeah, and that Close Friend gave her away to some random guy who is blatantly obviously a con man"
      I mean, what else is giving Ambipom off to some guy for Pokemon PING PONG mean? ESPECIALLY when apparently someone got the bright idea to do another Pokemon Ping Pong episode during Sun/Moon's anime and Ambipom not only doesn't appear but isn't referenced - so I'm told.

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 3 года назад +2

      @@KahunaLagoona Buizel was not overshadow by Infernape, While Infernape obviously was his MVP, Buizel did it so well and was used in a lot of battles

  • @cloverleaf5645
    @cloverleaf5645 3 года назад +13

    Can we get “How Good Was Corsola & Cursola Actually”

  • @krookking2237
    @krookking2237 3 года назад +19

    Just remember it was UU for a whole month in gen 7 cause of a certain someone

    • @oofjeff3735
      @oofjeff3735 3 года назад

      Video proof?

    • @krookking2237
      @krookking2237 3 года назад +3

      @@oofjeff3735 pokeaims Ambipom to the top. Used it in UU and when Tier shifts happened it got enough usage to be UU

    • @oofjeff3735
      @oofjeff3735 3 года назад

      @@krookking2237 sheesh

    • @krookking2237
      @krookking2237 3 года назад

      @@oofjeff3735 oh. Sorry if that sounded a bit harsh

  • @harrisonk2635
    @harrisonk2635 3 года назад +8

    Ambipom: So bad it’s only set is a warning to not use it
    Aipom: *tiers? More like tears*

  • @SteveDice21
    @SteveDice21 2 года назад +2

    Ambipom holds a special place in my heart due to that one time I was trolling showdown with a Fake Out + Return team and one poor unlucky soul switched a Dialga into a Low Kick.

  • @musicman8371
    @musicman8371 3 года назад +38

    Are we gonna forget about the time Pokeaimmd did Ambipom to the Top and helped it see some UU? 😂😂

  • @idealyst8292
    @idealyst8292 3 года назад +39

    I'm sad that you didn't mention the time it was UU in gen 7 because of Joey

  • @insertobligatoryreferenceh489
    @insertobligatoryreferenceh489 3 года назад +10

    One of the perfect examples of a Pokémon that should've gotten an evolution from the start.

    • @KahunaLagoona
      @KahunaLagoona 3 года назад +1

      One of the examples of needing another evolution - or at the very least a stat buff.

    • @wheatleythebrick2276
      @wheatleythebrick2276 3 года назад +3

      the gen 2 dex in general gives me big time constraint vibes, it's like gen 4 was their apology letter to gen 2 fans kinda

    • @KahunaLagoona
      @KahunaLagoona 3 года назад +3

      @@wheatleythebrick2276 Well when you think about it the Gen 2 Dex was made off the backbones of the original 151, so there was some constraints there - or rather they were originally intended for Gen 1 but never got fully realized until Gen 2... Where, the original intent with Gen 2 was to be the end of the series so they say but continued it due to money and fame.

    • @wheatleythebrick2276
      @wheatleythebrick2276 3 года назад

      @@KahunaLagoona that makes more sense ig

  • @olivergro7105
    @olivergro7105 3 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed that you covered little cup too, would love to see more of that!:) good video, you got my like

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 3 года назад

      If only he talked about NFE mons like Rhydon, Electabuzz, Magmar, Togetic, Piloswine, Roselia and LC mons like Yanma, Misdreavus, Murkrow (outside of VGC), Sneasel, Gligar earlier
      i know Rhydon usually gets banned, but still

  • @toadsagejacob7896
    @toadsagejacob7896 3 года назад +7

    Ambipom: *Unviable past Gen 5 in any tier its in.*
    Aipom: *Slowly evolves to LITTLE CUP GOD.*

  • @splitsee2526
    @splitsee2526 3 года назад +1

    Aipom before Generation 7: Just like the others
    Aipom in Generation 7: Terrorizing everyone with Tail Slaps

  • @silverfirework
    @silverfirework Год назад +3

    When aipom had more competitive history than ambipom

  • @jimbo4292
    @jimbo4292 3 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed this video!

  • @2022irons
    @2022irons 3 года назад +3

    Gens 2 & 3:
    Furret: *Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru*
    Aipom: *NANI!?!*

  • @betheboss1661
    @betheboss1661 3 года назад +1

    Ambipom is a part of gen 4's effort to reboot normal types, which featured new baby pokemon to give tanks bigger movepools (happiny, munchlax), new evolutions (Ambipom, Lickylicky, and Porygon-Z), the first normal-type legendary (Regigigas), and a fantastic new cheeser (Lopunny). It truly was an effort to show the potential utility of normal types, who's best traits were having one weakness/ one immunity and 2 resistances/1 opposing immunity and gen 4 made some amazing normal-type threats.

  • @Hmaz
    @Hmaz 3 года назад +11

    Can’t believe you didn’t include Pokeaim making Ambipom UU in Gen 7!

  • @Venemofthe888
    @Venemofthe888 3 года назад +8

    when you get overshadowed by Farfetch'd in your own debut generation kinda says a lot

  • @marceloSSJ
    @marceloSSJ 3 года назад +3

    ambipom could gain a "parental bond-like" ability; double tap, hits a second time with 25% of power

  • @greyscaleadaven
    @greyscaleadaven 3 года назад +1

    Aipom in LC is such a cool story so it's cool it got covered on this channel. Again, love the LC coverage.

  • @underbandit2372
    @underbandit2372 3 года назад +3

    I love how when Ambipom did good, Aipom did bad but when Aipom did good, Ambipom did bad. That just seems hilarious lol

  • @MorbidGames666
    @MorbidGames666 2 года назад +1

    I'm on a journey to pinpoint my favorite pokemon. And I got to say Aipom is almost there.

  • @juggernautspirates1400
    @juggernautspirates1400 3 года назад +3

    Ambipom to its users:
    *You won't let me live, you won't let me die!!!*

  • @BlastHeart96
    @BlastHeart96 3 года назад +1

    I remember my gimmick Ambipom I used in singles during Gen 5 with Fake Out, Fling, Protect, Last Resort with King’s Rock. It was obviously walled by Ghost types and select Pokémon, but it was a guilty pleasure set and was hilarious sweeping with it.

  • @christianbuffum-robbins8904
    @christianbuffum-robbins8904 3 года назад +5

    Ambipom coverage post Gen 4: "Stop, stop, he's already dead!"

  • @Bayckun
    @Bayckun 3 года назад +1

    Keep doing the little cup coverage! It’s very interesting. 👍

  • @kate2582
    @kate2582 3 года назад +44

    Fun fact the number of tails they have is how many times they've been used

    • @雪者
      @雪者 3 года назад +1

      Ok

    • @cantcommute
      @cantcommute 3 года назад +2

      @@雪者 i dont get it

    • @sephikong8323
      @sephikong8323 3 года назад +1

      I recall the time it rose to UU because of Pokeaim propaganda
      Good time even if it didn't last after the challenge was completed

    • @RazorIvy470
      @RazorIvy470 3 года назад

      LMAO

    • @雪者
      @雪者 3 года назад

      @@cantcommute The Aipom line has very few tails. The amount of tails they had means that they weren't used a lot on the competitive scene.

  • @SFinerFACE
    @SFinerFACE 3 года назад +1

    One of my absolute favorite pokemon! I used to run a Fake Out & Last Resort set that would absolutely wreck, back in gen 4!

  • @AshBlossomWorshiper
    @AshBlossomWorshiper 3 года назад +6

    Wow. Aipom was a beast in LC

  • @Cerberuswaltz
    @Cerberuswaltz 3 года назад +1

    Aipom is one of those mons that I was more or less indifferent to, but after raising them so much they've really grown on me. It's nice to see them have various success throughout all the gens!

  • @Scourge728
    @Scourge728 3 года назад +4

    Me: Watching about ambipom
    FSG: It was almost always seen in the lead slot
    Me, knowing what's gonna happen to dedicated leads in gen 5: oh the poor thing

  • @aliceskilton7130
    @aliceskilton7130 3 года назад

    I love that this channel is now talking about LC consistently. It's great, please continue to cover LC for the videos!!

  • @MrChillaxin2010
    @MrChillaxin2010 3 года назад +30

    Finally! I've been waiting for this one for so long. Dawn's biggest wasted potential.

    • @MuffinMythos
      @MuffinMythos 3 года назад +7

      It ticked me off so bad when Ash traded Aipom, and then Dawn just gave him away. My 10 year old heart was so broken seeing them just get rid of her. TwT

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 3 года назад +19

      At least Ash gave Aipom to a close friend and not to some random guy who is blatantly obviously a con man. Cough cough, Primeape, cough cough.

    • @jvgonzalez90
      @jvgonzalez90 3 года назад

      Same here. I was waiting for this one for so long!

    • @dodgesabiniano5835
      @dodgesabiniano5835 3 года назад +1

      I gave my collection of pokemon cards about two boxs full and the just ripped and gave it away😢

    • @KahunaLagoona
      @KahunaLagoona 3 года назад +2

      @@cintronproductions9430 Yeah but does that really mean much when said close friend then pawns her off to some random guy who is blatantly obviously a con man?
      Honestly when you think about it, the trade was a gyp. Sure Ash got a Water type for his Grass/Fire/Water core, but he practically ignores Turtwig and Buizel for Infernape - Turtwig because it became Torterra and thus not the style of battle Ash is used to (and you'd think someone aiming to be a Pokemon Master would you know, MASTER a battle style), and Buizel because well it wasn't as popular as Infernape.
      I think maybe Ash should've kept Aipom, have her become Ambipom, and gotten a slow Water type like Shellos, opposite color to the one Dawn's Rival Zoey had - then he would've had double monkeys, BUT when Turtwig became Torterra Ash would've been training Shellos/Gastrodon to know how to work with glaciers.
      And Buizel could've stayed with Dawn or not be caught at all.

  • @wonderweavile6679
    @wonderweavile6679 3 года назад +1

    Always great to see some attention to my favorite Normal Type!

  • @skyslasher2297
    @skyslasher2297 3 года назад +3

    It’s Pokémon like ambipom that make me question why tiers aren’t continuously updated and allow bad mons to possibly drop yo lower tiers like Ambipom Electivior and Dusknoir deserve better

  • @suzakudays4953
    @suzakudays4953 3 года назад +1

    I was wanting an Aipom and Ambipom video 😁 they're my favorite Normal types from Johto/Sinnoh

  • @monicadenigris1795
    @monicadenigris1795 3 года назад +4

    So basically Ambipom hates the one who love him

  • @SmugLookingBarrel
    @SmugLookingBarrel 3 года назад +1

    I think my favourite thing about these videos is that we get to see all the amazing work the Pokemon Battle Revolution and Pokemon Stadium animators did to animate all of the NFE pokemon, fantastic animations that may never have been seen before now.

  • @sussy3778
    @sussy3778 3 года назад +4

    Ambipom and Aipom viability are like a parallel to each other, while Ambipom gets worse, Aipom gets better.

  • @uiibaa
    @uiibaa 3 года назад

    Love the content! I would love to see more Little Cup coverage, the little ones never get any love!!

  • @miinesweep
    @miinesweep 3 года назад +3

    I'm surprised you didnt mention Ambipom's small stint in gen 7 UU popularized by Pokeaim's series laddering with it

  • @deth2munkies
    @deth2munkies 3 года назад +1

    It's funny because I loved using Ambipom and considered him a decent option, but DPPt UU was pretty much the only format I ever spent a ton of time in until this gen's VGC, so I guess I hit that magical sweet spot.

  • @BenAdry102
    @BenAdry102 3 года назад +5

    Let’s gooooooo Birthday Episode 🥳

  • @ATADSP
    @ATADSP 3 года назад

    Love how you are covering little cup recently!

  • @sephikong8323
    @sephikong8323 3 года назад +8

    I recall the time it rose to UU because of Pokeaim propaganda
    Good time even if it didn't last after the challenge was completed

  • @_RedRightHand_
    @_RedRightHand_ Год назад +1

    It must be mentioned that Aipom utterly rules over Gen 3 ZU, though.