You're speaking to me, Andrew! I have an X-T20 (which I absolutely love) and have been considering upgrading to an X-T2 for these EXACT reasons. I wear glasses as well, so have to suffer with a much smaller view through the EVF, or move my head around to check each corner of the frame. Not being able to touch-focus while composing- so have to resort to clicking the directional buttons a dozen times instead, and lack of weather sealing (it rains A LOT in western Washington). The prices are incredibly low right now for a new (to me) X-T2 in 2021, that I may pick one up. Thanks for your candid opinions and excellent videos!
Im sure this was an update along the way but you CAN use the touch screen to move around the focus point while looking through the EVF on the X-T20. works like a track pad. you can slide your thumb around and see the focus point move.
that is true. At Barcelona F1 GP other enthusiasts laughed at my X-T20. Untill i got twice the keepers they got with half the effort. (55-200mm F3.5-4.8). God it's good if you have enough batteries with you........... Agreed on the glasses part. I have it so close to my eye that my eyelashes smudge the glass. Just to see well through it. If you wear glasses be aware that this may not be the camera for you. It's
I'm about to buy one. Can I ask... do you use Fuji batteries? If not which brand could you recommend? My Canon is really funny with non-canon batteries. Cheers
Hi Andrew, and all other commentors, I have a question: I'm an X-T2 user and am thinking about an X-T20 for some upcoming travel; primary reason is the weight and size. But, I'm concerned about the feel of it in-hand; another well-known RUclipsr said it's the worst-feeling Fuji to hold! I love the X-T1 grip and the X-T2 is just fine, so I'm just curious for any insights on the X-T20. I've also read that the Megagear leather half case makes it so you can't flip the screen out, in case anyone has any experience with that. Thank you! And thank you for all the amazing videos Andrew!
On the X-T20 I am able to use the directional buttons to adjust the focus point in single point focus mode, I don't need to switch to focus area !! interesting.
I am writing this just as the XT 30 has come out. The price on the XT 20 dropped to $500. Now they didn’t last long at that price and I waited a little to long to pick up a brand new camera for that but I did buy a demo for $500. My other body is the Pro 2 with the 23mm f/2.0 mounted, my rainy day camera. The XT 20 is my street camera, with the 27mm f/2.8 or 16mm f/2.8 mounted.
Currently i have a nikon d3300 with a nikor 35mm f1.8 and a tamron 17-50mm 2.8. I mostly like street photography but also enjoy portraiture with my daughter. I have been eying the x100f for a very long time as the Nikon is a bit big for just being able to carry more often. After watching your videos i am leaning more toward xt20 but with sales now, maybe the xt2. The things driving me to upgrade is af points, flash sync speeds(no hss on dxxxx series) and just because i want more confidence in street photography and the x100f seems like ot would give me a bit of that mental boost.
tbh, i can't afford the x-t2. i'm not a pro. photographgy is just a hobby and for travel purposes so for me the x-t20 was perfect for that for almost half the price of an x-t2
As the guy who asked the question about big lenses on the 20 - thank you for this video! So helpful. Still deciding back and forth between a T2 and T20 to complement my Nikon setup for now. I don't wear glasses and am just a hobbyist so I'm still onboard with the T20, but the joystick issue is definitely a concern! Hopefully I will be able to decide sooner than later :) Awesome video!!
In the recent update of xt-20, Fuji added the touch focus on the LCD, while simultaneously viewing through the OVF. So one issue less to deal with. Reg the OVF: I feel the XT2 comes with a deeper eye cup when compared to XT 20. But just curious to know, won't the eye cup (accessory sold separately) help people wearing glasses? Sadly nothing can be done about the ISO dial issue you were talking about. Like your reviews Andrew, keep them coming!
One of the things that I don't like in my X-T10 is when I'm casually shooting Aperture Priority and set the Shutter speed on 'A', that setting is on the opposite end away from the 'T' setting and the dial doesn't continuously go around, so you'd have to do full rotations to go from 'A' to 'T'. In the X-T2, 'T' 'A' 'B' are all together and the dial rotates continuously. From the photos of the X-T20, I'm guessing that I might be the same. It's a small inconvenience but I really do appreciate it on the X-T2.
Really appreciate your video review. Online the X-T2 and X-T20 are only $100 apart. I'm looking to use this for landscape and travel photography is the X-T2 larger size noticable? For a beginner photographer is one of these cameras easier to operator & navigate the menu settings? Thanks👍
I feel like the ISO dedicated dial is a lot easier for beginners. It'd be worth springing for the x-t2 for me. Aside from that though, maybe not a massive difference.
I'm new to X and looking at XT20 as a backup/body and used with 12-32mm. I sold a fraction of my Canon gear (semi-retired medium-format advertorial pro), and got a set of nice primes. Unfortunately none of my lenses have WR and I'm thinking I either need a backup body, or I need to get a WR lens. That would probably be the 16mm. It's not really my focal length (I'm a 28mm guy) but its not far. I have the Touit 12, 18, 32, 56 and 55-200. I have most of the Zeiss ZE primes, including the sharp 25mm and flawed 28 with great personality. I don't love 24mm as much as 28, and if I was going to add WR street lens it might be the 16-55. I hate overlapping primes with zooms but I've done it before with Canon and Zeiss. (so the question here is, do I solve for WR with a backup body, or just buy a WR lens? 16mm vs 16-55 for the 18-32 range? I do street documentary work. A lot of B&W. No glasses, and I don't change ISO much (I put a roll in). So, how thoughts on XT20 as backup to XT2? Sounds like yes, especially for my smaller lenses. As long as everyone else asks irrelevant questions, I'm a whore for good glass and thinking hard on that 50-140. It's got that WR and it's a fixed max aperture and doesn't extend. I have a 55-200 in my bag and the weight seems good with my primes (and maybe ok even with another lightweight body!?!?). I kept a Canon 5D4 and 70-200II but that's also the lens that had me look to lighter systems. (so the question here is is the added IQ and WR of the 50-140 worth the weight and balance?) Sorry for the length. Great channel! (Hate the way the text editor killed all the paragraph breaks.)
I see the paragraph breaks. Other than the 50-140, I'm not much of a zoom guy. I just got the 18--55 on the X-E3 kit, and it's growing on me. But if you've seen many of my other vids you'll know how I feel about the 16mm 1.4. You're asking someone who is extremely biased there (best lens ever). Having said that, I really like the 50-140mm. I did a video of it comparing it to the Canon 70-200 which you might find interesting. If you're used to that lens, this one isn't going to quite measure up. But I prefer it (and Fuji in general) due to the lightness and portability. As far as the x-t20, I really like it a lot. X-E3 is currently my backup camera to the x--t2 though. But really it might as well have been the x-t20. Both are equal in my mind (some differences, but I like them both).
Thanks for a prompt response! It seems to me that the layout of XTs are most similar and I'm becoming fond of limiting the interfaces I have to deal with. I've seen the comparison video a few times (man, I love your demeanor). I came away with I wouldn't like it much if I was expecting the same. I can't responsibly afford either system, and I already have the Canon. Maybe it's not a star I should reach for in APSC, but just go by weight. The devil on my shoulder says I can't keep it knowing theres a fast constant aperture version out there, with WR. We didn't solve my mid range WR issues. At least the 16 1.4 should give me something new. (Not much; it's a 24.. ƒ2 then?) I kept my Zeiss 21 and 28, flaws and all, when I got a 25 f2 ZE. They're all so good, I can't sell any, and I don't want that again. I also have a Contax 24-85 ƒ3.5-4.5 converted to EF that I love (Zeiss love) BUT, it's that extending front element and a variable aperture. No lens for every day I guess.
I guess I don't shoot much mid range. I'm kind of extreme. I have several mid range primes but hardly ever use them unless it's something very specific, like a wedding party. In my portrait sessions as well as on th estreets it's very simple. Either the 56 1.2 or te 16 1.4. But I'm an extreme guy like that ;)
Well, I just returned the 55-200 while I could. What sold me was how small/light the 55-200 is. I can handle more. I had it in my full Fuji kit, added the 1 lb weight of the faster lens, and I was okay. I felt the lb., and I'll feel it more at the end of the day, but I can take out the 56 with the faster zoom. I hope so... I screwed with a great Canon f4LIS by going to a 2.8LII. Luckily not many decisions in photo gear are permanent. So I didn't order a 50-140 yet. I just bought an 80mm 2.8 with a 30 day, free-return ship deal. WHAT?
I was in the market for a new camera and was considering either the Sony A7RII or the Fuji XT-2. I rented the XT-2 for a family trip to Japan to test it but was pretty convinced prior to the trip that I would buy the Sony. Wow, was I surprised. The XT-2 controls are wonderful and it's the only digital camera I've shot to date that I truly enjoyed using. Once I was hooked on Fuji, I looked at the XT-20 but ultimately ended up buying the XT-2 because I wanted the get the accessory power grip (only on the XT-2) and because I really liked having the ISO dial on the top of the camera. By the way, both the XT-2 and XT-20 are a fraction of the cost and weight of the Sony when you build out your kit to include lenses.
That Sony a9 has me intrigued. But I'm such a user experience snob (it's my full time job, after all), like you the Fuji X system is just a shear joy to use. Saving money over more expensive FF options is only an added bonus. I'd still choose Fuji for the joy it is to shoot, even if it was priced the same.
Have you ever had an SD card defect on you? I have to admit, I did have one card that stopped reading/writing. But that's only ONE in all of my years of using them. That does pose a risk, but slight. If you shoot weddings or important events for your work, I would agree. The XT2 also offers the battery grip for more battery life, power.. etc.
Yes. Twice. Once when it (fortunately) wasn't anything especially important. But the second time was a foster kid for a her Heart Gallery portrait. We had to reshoot and it was very embarrassing to call the agency to schedule a second time. Since then, I just don't mess around with a shoot that is at all important.
It's a no brainer then. You should keep the XT2. Just keep that XT20 for whatever, whenever. What a great value for what it can do. I have been shooting the XT10 for 2 years. Trying to decide between the XT2 or the XT20. I am not currently shooting for money, but let's say, when on vacation... Who wants to lose photos even then.. But is the risk worth the extra money, when you could get the XT20 and a very nice lens, or 2 XT20's for the price of the XT2.. The next version will have touch screen and IBIS, no doubt. So maybe I will get the XT20 now, and wait a couple years for the XT3 or whatever it will be. I LOVE Fuji gear!!
By the way, I also wear glasses, and that has never been an issue with the XT10, but I can't understand why Fuji won't allow a larger eye-cup option for that camera. I would purchase a larger eye-cup. Fujifilm marketing is very intentional, and in my opinion, 'one of the best' brand marketing companies of all time.. The Gear makes it work. If you love your gear you will use it and take it with you.. If you like your gear, it may be at home when you need it...
I got an xt2 for 485 today on ebay bids, I had also gotten an xt20 but for 500😑 on bids. Got a bit excited and kept bidding, it is basically new though, only 200 shots. Ima try to flip the xt20 and use the xt2!
For some reason you are one of my favorite UTube channels. I guess it's maybe the music you put in and of course the contents. Plus the way you deliver it is very natural and comfortable to listen. Thanks and hope you keep up the good work! Oh by the way somehow I happen to now have both T2 and T20. Your vid is going to be a great help while I decide which one to let go.(tear)
Great review. Thank you. You can also add the battery grip option to to the X-T2 for extra battery life, extra vertical gripping, and balancing with larger lenses.
This sort of feels like a silly question, but since I have a few more months of saving up to go before I can buy things anyways..... For someone who wears glasses (and regularly wears polarized sunglasses, but I suppose if need be I could change my regular glasses to non-polarized as I've been thinking of getting Transitions XtraActive in my indoor frames anyways), and with a semi-limited budget (say $2,800-$3k CAD)... Who wants to focus more on street photography, with eventual growth into wildlife and/or motorsports photography... Would you recommend the X-T2 with the 23mm f2.0 and the 35mm f2.0, or the X-T20 with the 16mm f1.4 and a 35mm f2.0 as well? Or even the X-T2 with the kit lens, despite it not being weather resistant? Thanks in advance!
It just depends on what you feel is most important. A great experience during the photography experience, or best possible image quality after. If you care more about the images and are ok working with more difficult shooting conditions, I always recommend starting with a two-lens combination you are excited about (e.g. 23mm & 54mm is a a great pair), and then buy the Fuji body you can afford with what money is left, even if that means an older, used Fuji body. Alternatively, if you want the best possible shooting experience where the camera does as much work as possible so you can just enjoy the moment, but are ok with cheaper glass, buy the x-t2 and kit lens. Just my two cents.
4:01 Yeaaahhh... on the XT20, my big nose kept poking the screen and resetting the af point!!! I kept trying to turn it off so it wouldn't and yet it kept doing it again.
Duc800ss They should perform exactly the same. the only difference you should notice is that the x-t2 will have more fine tune customization ability over AF settings.
IMO the XT20 doesn’t ship with directional buttons for moving focus area is because you give up 3 shortcuts when you can set one of them (I use down) to activate the select focus area and then all 4 directional buttons in-play.
Denae & Andrew X-T20 is my first Fuji and I love it but I can already tell I may be moving ‘up’ within a year or so. People love the joystick & I agree it’s better for moving focus point around. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you.
I just picked one up to replace my broken xpro2, it honestly feels a lot more responsive than the xpro2, maybe I had a bad copy of the pro, but great little camera!
Me too! I know I want the 56 (APD even more), but I am also looking on the 23 and 35 F1.4. Then I get people saying the 16mm is amazing. So, I am trying a lot not to anything yet!
Today I tried out the X-T20 viewfinder and for me it kinda works perfectly despite the glasses. What I really hate about it is that holding it with one hand is almost impossible with big hands. I might just get the x-t2 for that plus the weather sealing
I've heard that from several folks. I have smaller hands, so it doesn't phase me. Getting an extension grip would probably help. Better to get something like that for heavy tripod use anyway.
Denae & Andrew The extension grip could work yep. Im still thinking about getting a used x-t2 with a used 35mm f2 to have a weather sealed camera with probably slightly better ergnomics. By doing that I'd get camera and lens for about 250 bucks more than the x-t20 in New with The kit lens.
There has been a problem with Fujifilm's raw and lightroom and I am hesitating to buy such a camera because I want to use lightroom. Is this still the case ?
Yes definitely. I still use Lightroom, but not to sharpen low light images. Lightroom will make anything with a lot of low-light grain look awful the moment you apply the slightest degree of sharpening. Other than that, I haven't had any issues with it.
I'm pretty sure my xt20 came with the down button as the af area control. could be wrong. that's what it's been this whole time. selling it now to get an xt2, but still mainly Canon for the day job.
Thanks for your thoughts on the comparison. That dang GH5 and its focus. You are going to have to get all Casey Niestat on your vlogs and reach out and touch the screen to set focus. When it's in focus it looks great. But when it's not it's distracting. Other than the occasional autofocus, the information and your perspective was top-notch and greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Yeah sorry. Focus was off. The GH5 does suffer from microhunting, but you wouldn't have seen it in this video. It was not in AF-C. I just missed the focus, unfortunately.
is there difference on speed between xt20 & xt2 when it comes to face detect autofocus? i find it slow on my xt20 i tried all the autofocus presets in the camera and i'm not happy :(
i have the xt20 silver i like it i have a metbone adapter i tested a sigma 150-600mm S lens on it when i zoomed out i twisted the camera out of my hands the Fujis 100-400mm was also big but way more manageable i manage to zoom and and shoot Nice bird photos no problem it was onley slightly better on its big Brother xt2 but only by margin so why does Fuji make so big lenses when they have no camera to sute the Wight of big lenses
ok thank you for your personal opinion about Fuji X-t20 , but what kind of advice can you give people who shoot only food, i mean he or she is a professional food photographer
yes we are talking about fuji and mainly X-T20, ok let's forget about lenses, the question is about camera, why i asked will you advise X-T20 to a person who shoot food, maybe you know somebody from your friends or friend of friends who is a professional studio shooter or a food photographer and he decided to experiment with this camera to find out does this camera capable for profesional work or this is just a good camera for travel for family use
I'm guessing most professional food photographers do not shoot Fuji. But there is no reason I can think of why the x-t20 couldn't do everything you need to as a pro.
Ahahaha comon you're not ugly at all, you should trust the taste of Denae! Hope to see your camera chalenge again. I wasn't conviced at the begining but after a while I recognize that I appreciate your style of photos and that I m addicted to your channel. You actually convince me to test and buy an XT2. Seemed to be a versatile camera that would suit to my type of work with great lenses choice. Greetings from France, hope to see you outthere maybe one day!
From an x-t2 user... if you are predominately buying for video don't buy it. The X-t2 is for photography with video capabilities . Trying to video moving objects with the x-t2 is a mission in it self.
I love hearing the value comparison between the x-t2 and the x-t20, I would love be to have a video on the value comparison between the x-t1 and the x-t2......
Hello! I follow your channel because of your Fujifilm reviews and input but yesterday, while I was browsing RUclips, I found this channel named "Raquel Dean". For some reasons, your videos were uploaded there. Seems like it's not your channel. Upload quality is bad. You might want to check it out.
Ian. If you're wanting it for stills, there really is no contest here. xt20 is going to get you better results. Probably depends on what you plan to shoot and how though, to justify the price. If price is a concern and you're just getting into photography, I'd recommend actually starting with like an xpro1 or xt1 and investing in good Fuji lenses first. High quality lenses will make a bigger difference than body.
Denae & Andrew thx for your response really appreciate it. I have a 100s which I use for street photography and my family holidays, but I hate it's focus issues. Not looking to buy the 100f so that's why I'm considering xt20. Keep up the great work.
Dude. I barely have time to vlog in the first pllace. If my message got across, that's sufficient. I care about photography, not my ugly face in focus. Definitely working on the GH5 focusing issues for future episodes though.
You're speaking to me, Andrew! I have an X-T20 (which I absolutely love) and have been considering upgrading to an X-T2 for these EXACT reasons. I wear glasses as well, so have to suffer with a much smaller view through the EVF, or move my head around to check each corner of the frame. Not being able to touch-focus while composing- so have to resort to clicking the directional buttons a dozen times instead, and lack of weather sealing (it rains A LOT in western Washington). The prices are incredibly low right now for a new (to me) X-T2 in 2021, that I may pick one up. Thanks for your candid opinions and excellent videos!
You're NOT holding a small camera body with a heavy lens attached....
You're holding a quality lens with a lightweight camera body attached.
I like that.
Im sure this was an update along the way but you CAN use the touch screen to move around the focus point while looking through the EVF on the X-T20. works like a track pad. you can slide your thumb around and see the focus point move.
I feel like if Fuji had the visibility and recognition of Canon, the xt20 would be the world's best selling camera. Tremendous value.
that is true.
At Barcelona F1 GP other enthusiasts laughed at my X-T20. Untill i got twice the keepers they got with half the effort. (55-200mm F3.5-4.8). God it's good if you have enough batteries with you...........
Agreed on the glasses part. I have it so close to my eye that my eyelashes smudge the glass. Just to see well through it. If you wear glasses be aware that this may not be the camera for you. It's
I'm about to buy one. Can I ask... do you use Fuji batteries? If not which brand could you recommend?
My Canon is really funny with non-canon batteries.
Cheers
Very good point.
D j C Try the Wasabi Power batteries. Best 3rd party batteries for Fuji.
@@AkhilThandavan I second that.
Hi Andrew, and all other commentors, I have a question: I'm an X-T2 user and am thinking about an X-T20 for some upcoming travel; primary reason is the weight and size. But, I'm concerned about the feel of it in-hand; another well-known RUclipsr said it's the worst-feeling Fuji to hold! I love the X-T1 grip and the X-T2 is just fine, so I'm just curious for any insights on the X-T20. I've also read that the Megagear leather half case makes it so you can't flip the screen out, in case anyone has any experience with that. Thank you! And thank you for all the amazing videos Andrew!
On the X-T20 I am able to use the directional buttons to adjust the focus point in single point focus mode, I don't need to switch to focus area !! interesting.
I am writing this just as the XT 30 has come out. The price on the XT 20 dropped to $500. Now they didn’t last long at that price and I waited a little to long to pick up a brand new camera for that but I did buy a demo for $500. My other body is the Pro 2 with the 23mm f/2.0 mounted, my rainy day camera. The XT 20 is my street camera, with the 27mm f/2.8 or 16mm f/2.8 mounted.
Exactly the run down i needed now, 6 years after publishing! Thanks
Currently i have a nikon d3300 with a nikor 35mm f1.8 and a tamron 17-50mm 2.8. I mostly like street photography but also enjoy portraiture with my daughter. I have been eying the x100f for a very long time as the Nikon is a bit big for just being able to carry more often. After watching your videos i am leaning more toward xt20 but with sales now, maybe the xt2. The things driving me to upgrade is af points, flash sync speeds(no hss on dxxxx series) and just because i want more confidence in street photography and the x100f seems like ot would give me a bit of that mental boost.
As a college student dealing with loans, I think xt20 with 23mm f2 will do nicely. Even though I wanted the xpro 2 with 16 1.4.
DONT BUY XPRO2 BUY XE3
DONT BUY XE3 BUY XPRO2
dont buy either buy x-t20
did you bought it?
tbh, i can't afford the x-t2. i'm not a pro. photographgy is just a hobby and for travel purposes so for me the x-t20 was perfect for that for almost half the price of an x-t2
CS I agree with you. I'm not a pro. Maybe weddings once a while for a job. But could rent what I need. Xt20 is perfect
None of these negatives are anything I care about. Only thing I worry about is the small size might not be comfortable
Hi Great review, one question: in terms of image quality can we consider the two camera exactely the same? Thx!
I'm a small RUclips startup. Does the Fuji X-T20 still hold up. Full swivel screen is a must. Table top from above mostly or myself at a desk.
Ha! Just got them both! I hot-glued an 18mm on the xt20 and taped it all up. The xt2 is for everything else.
first youtuber who doesnt focus camera on his face but on the background so we can enjoy the beauty of the forest
As the guy who asked the question about big lenses on the 20 - thank you for this video! So helpful. Still deciding back and forth between a T2 and T20 to complement my Nikon setup for now. I don't wear glasses and am just a hobbyist so I'm still onboard with the T20, but the joystick issue is definitely a concern! Hopefully I will be able to decide sooner than later :)
Awesome video!!
Glad it helped! I'd love to hear what you decide when you finally do. Thanks for the question.
In the recent update of xt-20, Fuji added the touch focus on the LCD, while simultaneously viewing through the OVF. So one issue less to deal with. Reg the OVF: I feel the XT2 comes with a deeper eye cup when compared to XT 20. But just curious to know, won't the eye cup (accessory sold separately) help people wearing glasses? Sadly nothing can be done about the ISO dial issue you were talking about.
Like your reviews Andrew, keep them coming!
One of the things that I don't like in my X-T10 is when I'm casually shooting Aperture Priority and set the Shutter speed on 'A', that setting is on the opposite end away from the 'T' setting and the dial doesn't continuously go around, so you'd have to do full rotations to go from 'A' to 'T'. In the X-T2, 'T' 'A' 'B' are all together and the dial rotates continuously.
From the photos of the X-T20, I'm guessing that I might be the same. It's a small inconvenience but I really do appreciate it on the X-T2.
It's the same on the X-T20 as on X-T10, I can confirm
That's a tad unfortunate. Thanks for confirming! :)
selecting your focuspoint via touchscreen while using the EVF is something Lumix has implemented since years, and i wouldnt want to miss it
Really appreciate your video review. Online the X-T2 and X-T20 are only $100 apart. I'm looking to use this for landscape and travel photography is the X-T2 larger size noticable? For a beginner photographer is one of these cameras easier to operator & navigate the menu settings? Thanks👍
I feel like the ISO dedicated dial is a lot easier for beginners. It'd be worth springing for the x-t2 for me. Aside from that though, maybe not a massive difference.
Thank you for a fun and thorough comparison! Even if you make a good case for X-T2 (and X-T20) I think I stay with my X-Pro2!
Sorry you don't have OVF as it's mirrorless camera. You have EVF...
I'm new to X and looking at XT20 as a backup/body and used with 12-32mm. I sold a fraction of my Canon gear (semi-retired medium-format advertorial pro), and got a set of nice primes. Unfortunately none of my lenses have WR and I'm thinking I either need a backup body, or I need to get a WR lens. That would probably be the 16mm. It's not really my focal length (I'm a 28mm guy) but its not far. I have the Touit 12, 18, 32, 56 and 55-200. I have most of the Zeiss ZE primes, including the sharp 25mm and flawed 28 with great personality. I don't love 24mm as much as 28, and if I was going to add WR street lens it might be the 16-55. I hate overlapping primes with zooms but I've done it before with Canon and Zeiss. (so the question here is, do I solve for WR with a backup body, or just buy a WR lens? 16mm vs 16-55 for the 18-32 range?
I do street documentary work. A lot of B&W. No glasses, and I don't change ISO much (I put a roll in). So, how thoughts on XT20 as backup to XT2? Sounds like yes, especially for my smaller lenses.
As long as everyone else asks irrelevant questions, I'm a whore for good glass and thinking hard on that 50-140. It's got that WR and it's a fixed max aperture and doesn't extend. I have a 55-200 in my bag and the weight seems good with my primes (and maybe ok even with another lightweight body!?!?). I kept a Canon 5D4 and 70-200II but that's also the lens that had me look to lighter systems. (so the question here is is the added IQ and WR of the 50-140 worth the weight and balance?)
Sorry for the length. Great channel! (Hate the way the text editor killed all the paragraph breaks.)
I see the paragraph breaks. Other than the 50-140, I'm not much of a zoom guy. I just got the 18--55 on the X-E3 kit, and it's growing on me. But if you've seen many of my other vids you'll know how I feel about the 16mm 1.4. You're asking someone who is extremely biased there (best lens ever). Having said that, I really like the 50-140mm. I did a video of it comparing it to the Canon 70-200 which you might find interesting. If you're used to that lens, this one isn't going to quite measure up. But I prefer it (and Fuji in general) due to the lightness and portability.
As far as the x-t20, I really like it a lot. X-E3 is currently my backup camera to the x--t2 though. But really it might as well have been the x-t20. Both are equal in my mind (some differences, but I like them both).
Thanks for a prompt response! It seems to me that the layout of XTs are most similar and I'm becoming fond of limiting the interfaces I have to deal with.
I've seen the comparison video a few times (man, I love your demeanor). I came away with I wouldn't like it much if I was expecting the same. I can't responsibly afford either system, and I already have the Canon. Maybe it's not a star I should reach for in APSC, but just go by weight. The devil on my shoulder says I can't keep it knowing theres a fast constant aperture version out there, with WR.
We didn't solve my mid range WR issues. At least the 16 1.4 should give me something new. (Not much; it's a 24.. ƒ2 then?) I kept my Zeiss 21 and 28, flaws and all, when I got a 25 f2 ZE. They're all so good, I can't sell any, and I don't want that again. I also have a Contax 24-85 ƒ3.5-4.5 converted to EF that I love (Zeiss love) BUT, it's that extending front element and a variable aperture. No lens for every day I guess.
I guess I don't shoot much mid range. I'm kind of extreme. I have several mid range primes but hardly ever use them unless it's something very specific, like a wedding party. In my portrait sessions as well as on th estreets it's very simple. Either the 56 1.2 or te 16 1.4. But I'm an extreme guy like that ;)
Well, I just returned the 55-200 while I could. What sold me was how small/light the 55-200 is. I can handle more. I had it in my full Fuji kit, added the 1 lb weight of the faster lens, and I was okay. I felt the lb., and I'll feel it more at the end of the day, but I can take out the 56 with the faster zoom. I hope so... I screwed with a great Canon f4LIS by going to a 2.8LII. Luckily not many decisions in photo gear are permanent.
So I didn't order a 50-140 yet. I just bought an 80mm 2.8 with a 30 day, free-return ship deal. WHAT?
Thank you. In terms of autofocus, are there any differences??
I was in the market for a new camera and was considering either the Sony A7RII or the Fuji XT-2. I rented the XT-2 for a family trip to Japan to test it but was pretty convinced prior to the trip that I would buy the Sony. Wow, was I surprised. The XT-2 controls are wonderful and it's the only digital camera I've shot to date that I truly enjoyed using. Once I was hooked on Fuji, I looked at the XT-20 but ultimately ended up buying the XT-2 because I wanted the get the accessory power grip (only on the XT-2) and because I really liked having the ISO dial on the top of the camera. By the way, both the XT-2 and XT-20 are a fraction of the cost and weight of the Sony when you build out your kit to include lenses.
That Sony a9 has me intrigued. But I'm such a user experience snob (it's my full time job, after all), like you the Fuji X system is just a shear joy to use. Saving money over more expensive FF options is only an added bonus. I'd still choose Fuji for the joy it is to shoot, even if it was priced the same.
Have you ever had an SD card defect on you? I have to admit, I did have one card that stopped reading/writing. But that's only ONE in all of my years of using them. That does pose a risk, but slight. If you shoot weddings or important events for your work, I would agree. The XT2 also offers the battery grip for more battery life, power.. etc.
Yes. Twice. Once when it (fortunately) wasn't anything especially important. But the second time was a foster kid for a her Heart Gallery portrait. We had to reshoot and it was very embarrassing to call the agency to schedule a second time. Since then, I just don't mess around with a shoot that is at all important.
It's a no brainer then. You should keep the XT2. Just keep that XT20 for whatever, whenever. What a great value for what it can do. I have been shooting the XT10 for 2 years. Trying to decide between the XT2 or the XT20. I am not currently shooting for money, but let's say, when on vacation... Who wants to lose photos even then.. But is the risk worth the extra money, when you could get the XT20 and a very nice lens, or 2 XT20's for the price of the XT2.. The next version will have touch screen and IBIS, no doubt. So maybe I will get the XT20 now, and wait a couple years for the XT3 or whatever it will be. I LOVE Fuji gear!!
Agreed. As someone who loves doing gear reviews and tries to be impartial per brand, it's hard not to be in love with Fuji.
By the way, I also wear glasses, and that has never been an issue with the XT10, but I can't understand why Fuji won't allow a larger eye-cup option for that camera. I would purchase a larger eye-cup. Fujifilm marketing is very intentional, and in my opinion, 'one of the best' brand marketing companies of all time.. The Gear makes it work. If you love your gear you will use it and take it with you.. If you like your gear, it may be at home when you need it...
I got an xt2 for 485 today on ebay bids, I had also gotten an xt20 but for 500😑 on bids. Got a bit excited and kept bidding, it is basically new though, only 200 shots. Ima try to flip the xt20 and use the xt2!
For some reason you are one of my favorite UTube channels. I guess it's maybe the music you put in and of course the contents. Plus the way you deliver it is very natural and comfortable to listen. Thanks and hope you keep up the good work! Oh by the way somehow I happen to now have both T2 and T20. Your vid is going to be a great help while I decide which one to let go.(tear)
You forgot: incredibly good looking, hyper intelligence, and superbly witty. ;)
Denae & Andrew Yeah I guess I missed that one! haha
Great review. Thank you. You can also add the battery grip option to to the X-T2 for extra battery life, extra vertical gripping, and balancing with larger lenses.
EVF please not OVF and not optical. It's electronic. Sorry that bothered me
This sort of feels like a silly question, but since I have a few more months of saving up to go before I can buy things anyways..... For someone who wears glasses (and regularly wears polarized sunglasses, but I suppose if need be I could change my regular glasses to non-polarized as I've been thinking of getting Transitions XtraActive in my indoor frames anyways), and with a semi-limited budget (say $2,800-$3k CAD)... Who wants to focus more on street photography, with eventual growth into wildlife and/or motorsports photography...
Would you recommend the X-T2 with the 23mm f2.0 and the 35mm f2.0, or the X-T20 with the 16mm f1.4 and a 35mm f2.0 as well? Or even the X-T2 with the kit lens, despite it not being weather resistant?
Thanks in advance!
It just depends on what you feel is most important. A great experience during the photography experience, or best possible image quality after. If you care more about the images and are ok working with more difficult shooting conditions, I always recommend starting with a two-lens combination you are excited about (e.g. 23mm & 54mm is a a great pair), and then buy the Fuji body you can afford with what money is left, even if that means an older, used Fuji body. Alternatively, if you want the best possible shooting experience where the camera does as much work as possible so you can just enjoy the moment, but are ok with cheaper glass, buy the x-t2 and kit lens.
Just my two cents.
4:01 Yeaaahhh... on the XT20, my big nose kept poking the screen and resetting the af point!!! I kept trying to turn it off so it wouldn't and yet it kept doing it again.
Great video! Any thoughts on if one is better than the other for tracking youth sports like soccer when paired with 50-140 lens? Thanks!
Duc800ss They should perform exactly the same. the only difference you should notice is that the x-t2 will have more fine tune customization ability over AF settings.
Thanks!!
IMO the XT20 doesn’t ship with directional buttons for moving focus area is because you give up 3 shortcuts when you can set one of them (I use down) to activate the select focus area and then all 4 directional buttons in-play.
That's a good point. I still prefer it as focus area personally. Actually, I just miss the joystick
Denae & Andrew X-T20 is my first Fuji and I love it but I can already tell I may be moving ‘up’ within a year or so. People love the joystick & I agree it’s better for moving focus point around. I really enjoy your videos. Thank you.
A really comprehensive and very useful comparison between x20 and x2. Thks.
I just picked one up to replace my broken xpro2, it honestly feels a lot more responsive than the xpro2, maybe I had a bad copy of the pro, but great little camera!
Need the 56mm vs 90mm comparison...I'm debating which one to buy
Ok. For you, I will strive to finish that video by tomorrow night. :)
You beauty!
esp. on the lens compression!
Me too! I know I want the 56 (APD even more), but I am also looking on the 23 and 35 F1.4. Then I get people saying the 16mm is amazing. So, I am trying a lot not to anything yet!
KEH has an X-t2 for $645. Is that a good price ?? Thanks
Is the x-t20 ok for hiking & camping even though it's not weather sealed, or would that make it problematic?
Yeah totally. Just don't take it out of your weather sealed pack in bad weather :)
Today I tried out the X-T20 viewfinder and for me it kinda works perfectly despite the glasses. What I really hate about it is that holding it with one hand is almost impossible with big hands. I might just get the x-t2 for that plus the weather sealing
I've heard that from several folks. I have smaller hands, so it doesn't phase me. Getting an extension grip would probably help. Better to get something like that for heavy tripod use anyway.
Denae & Andrew The extension grip could work yep. Im still thinking about getting a used x-t2 with a used 35mm f2 to have a weather sealed camera with probably slightly better ergnomics. By doing that I'd get camera and lens for about 250 bucks more than the x-t20 in New with The kit lens.
I really don't care about cameras feeling heavy, it makes the more likeable haha
There has been a problem with Fujifilm's raw and lightroom and I am hesitating to buy such a camera because I want to use lightroom. Is this still the case ?
Yes definitely. I still use Lightroom, but not to sharpen low light images. Lightroom will make anything with a lot of low-light grain look awful the moment you apply the slightest degree of sharpening. Other than that, I haven't had any issues with it.
Try Luminar 2018
I'm pretty sure my xt20 came with the down button as the af area control. could be wrong. that's what it's been this whole time. selling it now to get an xt2, but still mainly Canon for the day job.
Yeah, I think that's default. I switched that right off the bat though so I can't remember for sure. I gotta have immediate access to the focus point.
Thanks for your thoughts on the comparison. That dang GH5 and its focus. You are going to have to get all Casey Niestat on your vlogs and reach out and touch the screen to set focus. When it's in focus it looks great. But when it's not it's distracting. Other than the occasional autofocus, the information and your perspective was top-notch and greatly appreciated. Thank you.
:( I thought I had the focus. Was hard to see in that bright light I guess.
yeah really annoying 50% of video was OOF was that a gh5 lots of microhunting to :(
Yeah sorry. Focus was off. The GH5 does suffer from microhunting, but you wouldn't have seen it in this video. It was not in AF-C. I just missed the focus, unfortunately.
is there difference on speed between xt20 & xt2 when it comes to face detect autofocus? i find it slow on my xt20 i tried all the autofocus presets in the camera and i'm not happy :(
Interesting. It's always felt snappy to me, and that's after coming from Canon, who is (IMO) the king of AF. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sorry i mean face detect only not the autofocus :) on my xt20 it takes couple of second for that square to appear :(
i have the xt20 silver i like it i have a metbone adapter i tested a sigma 150-600mm S lens on it when i zoomed out i twisted the camera out of my hands the Fujis 100-400mm was also big but way more manageable i manage to zoom and and shoot Nice bird photos no problem it was onley slightly better on its big Brother xt2 but only by margin so why does Fuji make so big lenses when they have no camera to sute the Wight of big lenses
Physics
Can I do long exposures with the xt20? 10 seconds or longer?
Yes
ok thank you for your personal opinion about Fuji X-t20 , but what kind of advice can you give people who shoot only food, i mean he or she is a professional food photographer
I don't shoot food or studio much. But I would suspect you would want a good zoom lens. Probably the 16-55, if we're talking Fuji.
yes we are talking about fuji and mainly X-T20, ok let's forget about lenses, the question is about camera, why i asked will you advise X-T20 to a person who shoot food, maybe you know somebody from your friends or friend of friends who is a professional studio shooter or a food photographer and he decided to experiment with this camera to find out does this camera capable for profesional work or this is just a good camera for travel for family use
I'm guessing most professional food photographers do not shoot Fuji. But there is no reason I can think of why the x-t20 couldn't do everything you need to as a pro.
Thanks for your personnal thought on those cameras. You need to focus on your face when you're vlogging... ;)
Ahahaha comon you're not ugly at all, you should trust the taste of Denae! Hope to see your camera chalenge again. I wasn't conviced at the begining but after a while I recognize that I appreciate your style of photos and that I m addicted to your channel. You actually convince me to test and buy an XT2. Seemed to be a versatile camera that would suit to my type of work with great lenses choice. Greetings from France, hope to see you outthere maybe one day!
From an x-t2 user... if you are predominately buying for video don't buy it. The X-t2 is for photography with video capabilities . Trying to video moving objects with the x-t2 is a mission in it self.
I really like your reviews. Although I'd stick with Sony and canon cause my equipment so far is all from these companies.
I love hearing the value comparison between the x-t2 and the x-t20, I would love be to have a video on the value comparison between the x-t1 and the x-t2......
What is that little thing stuck on the xt20 at 4:21?
That's a tag put there by our friends at Fuji Pro Rentals so they know it's their stuff :)
Hello! I follow your channel because of your Fujifilm reviews and input but yesterday, while I was browsing RUclips, I found this channel named "Raquel Dean". For some reasons, your videos were uploaded there. Seems like it's not your channel. Upload quality is bad. You might want to check it out.
i just dreamt once xe3 has xt2 evf :(
What's up with all of the focus issues in your videos lately?
Love the video 🤙🏽
I'm torn between xt20 or gx85.
Ian. If you're wanting it for stills, there really is no contest here. xt20 is going to get you better results. Probably depends on what you plan to shoot and how though, to justify the price. If price is a concern and you're just getting into photography, I'd recommend actually starting with like an xpro1 or xt1 and investing in good Fuji lenses first. High quality lenses will make a bigger difference than body.
Denae & Andrew thx for your response really appreciate it. I have a 100s which I use for street photography and my family holidays, but I hate it's focus issues. Not looking to buy the 100f so that's why I'm considering xt20. Keep up the great work.
Have you tried an X-Pro2 yet?
Hey Daniel! Haha. No. I fear that if I do I will want to buy one.
Denae & Andrew lol may be , I rock a pair of them now, just love them. also just sold my xt20 as well
Hey friend. You should try zooms :D cheers from Chile
Bottom line...this camera takes amazing images...the rest is moot
Anyone Else Hear That Rattle Snake At @ 10:02 !
haha. not a rattlesnake. that's a squirrel
@@AndrewGoodCamera Oh Right XD Have a good rest of your quarentine :-)
Nice hair cut andrew! You clean up nice! Hahaha :)
Maybe you should allow it to grow like I do... Hahaha. I'm going to cut my hair as soon as I hit my weight of 165lbs! currently 175lbs. past 190lbs
You are not in focus - focus is on the trees and hut behind. Why haven't you recorded it again?
Dude. I barely have time to vlog in the first pllace. If my message got across, that's sufficient. I care about photography, not my ugly face in focus. Definitely working on the GH5 focusing issues for future episodes though.
Hi Great review, one question: in terms of image quality can we consider the two camera exactely the same? Thx!
Yes