The SPLIT INFINITIVE Grammar Crime or Myth? | The Grammar Detective Investigates

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024

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  • @simonettaredolfi399
    @simonettaredolfi399 3 года назад +6

    Your lessons are not only clear explanations of grammar rules, but also captivating insights into the inner mechanism of the English language.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      Many thanks that was my intention.

  • @NothingMaster
    @NothingMaster 3 года назад +18

    Great analysis!
    The immortal Yoda extends a wonderful alternative, too: Boldly, she went.

  • @madanmohan27
    @madanmohan27 3 года назад +20

    God DAMN IT!!!
    When I split an infinite. Let it be split.
    That was an amazing reply to the comment, made the concept clear illustrated with references.
    I don't understand why people try to pull down others. Criticism can be made without making -ve remarks just for the sake of hurting someone's sentiments and that's what we call +ve criticism.
    His question was valid, as a learner I found it interesting as well as knowledgeable. But statement made by him in the end disappointed me. He was questioning Gideon's teaching.
    For the record, nobody is perfect. So stop looking for perfection. If someone is curious or doesn't agree with what teacher had said. Ask it respectfully without being judgemental. I don't know how Gideon felt, but I feel terrible.
    Just a genuine request, Be respectful and care about other's feelings. Be sensitive.
    Thanks for the video Gideon. 🙏

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +7

      The 99% of positive comments make up for the negative. As you said I welcome constructive criticism but not dogma.

    • @kurtgodel5236
      @kurtgodel5236 2 года назад

      Only if it's countably infinite.

  • @alphacentauri2134
    @alphacentauri2134 3 года назад +16

    Thank you so much for removing the ear-splitting music sir!

  • @causilvestrini7000
    @causilvestrini7000 3 года назад +19

    Great video! I have to modestly agree: applying that non existent rule just for the sake of it only hinders clarity.
    I'd love to have a cool backpack, though.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      I'm sure you'd look cool in a backpack but it's an exception.

    • @anaisabel2956
      @anaisabel2956 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @k.chriscaldwell4141
    @k.chriscaldwell4141 2 года назад +1

    Allows the shifting of emphasis from the verb to the adverb. “Go” vs. “boldly.”

  • @Georg_Hannes
    @Georg_Hannes 3 года назад +26

    I've never heard of this split infinity things. I ve allways split them when it sounded better. I am thinking that it's a fortune that I don't know Latin.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +6

      If you hadn't heard of it that's a good thing.

    • @Georg_Hannes
      @Georg_Hannes 3 года назад +1

      @@LetThemTalkTV that I've learned English for the time, was 40 years ago. It's also possible that I've heard it back in the old days and have it forgotten.

    • @Antagraber
      @Antagraber 3 года назад

      I think that It is not a fortune. It helped me to be fluent in French, Italian, Spanish, and Catalan.

    • @kurtgodel5236
      @kurtgodel5236 2 года назад

      Split infinity is still infinity.

  • @marcelocastillo1109
    @marcelocastillo1109 3 года назад +3

    Thanks Gideon for this very clear video. It´s a big alleviation to know that there is not such a rule. I liked the example at 4:03, it shows how following the unexistent rule could ends up with an ambiguous phrase.

  • @personifiedmarvel6964
    @personifiedmarvel6964 2 года назад +2

    Didn't know about this rule. By the way, it seems that the corresponding rule in German is much more strict. I think it's because when zu is followed by an adverb people seem to understand as the word for "too".

  • @veenanarwani761
    @veenanarwani761 3 года назад +4

    You are the first teacher to let us know this brand new information about infinitives. We used to split infinitives in written English unknowingly. Although we never noticed that we were doing so. All the same, we considered infinitives unsplitable or nonsplitable. An eye- opening video. Thanks sir. 🙏👍

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +2

      You are free to split or not split

    • @anaisabel2956
      @anaisabel2956 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV God damm it😂😂😂

  • @dmitryderikaftanov4
    @dmitryderikaftanov4 3 года назад

    4:00 "One never has time to really think" - The frase of the modern society

  • @semplicementeanita6563
    @semplicementeanita6563 3 года назад +4

    I wish my high school English teacher could've seen this video back in those days.She used to constantly reprimand me for doing what I've just done 😀(especially in writing) because she considered it a grammatical crime. She wouldn't accept my justification that sometimes split infinitives just sound better to me and without using them my essays seemed overly formal (at least from my perspective).Thank you for proving me right in thinking that she was a fussy,old-fashioned grammar nazi (whom I loved and respected despite of her occasional nagging).

  • @sinxenon3181
    @sinxenon3181 3 года назад +3

    I enjoy each one of your lessons! thank you very much

  • @edimaraadamshaab6347
    @edimaraadamshaab6347 3 года назад +1

    Very clarifying, thank you. As a matter of fact, I read about it once in a TOEFL coursebook years ago, and the text was about this comparison you mentioned between Latin and English.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +2

      Interesting. They probably reached the same conclusion.

  • @ilFedeVR
    @ilFedeVR 3 года назад +1

    That 's why we love this guy, he Always teaches us the English we really need.
    Chapeau

  • @manjirabanerjee7169
    @manjirabanerjee7169 3 года назад

    You are like a Messiah ;always there to lucidly clarify our confusions. Thanks sir Gideon.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      No, not "messiah" just a "clarifier". Thanks for your comment.

  • @flawlessly
    @flawlessly 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for this! Sometimes, when I write, I struggle trying not to split an infinitive. Now I know I don’t have to suffer that much :)

  • @Thingybob
    @Thingybob 3 года назад +2

    I totally agree. I was taught not to split infinitives, but it just does not work.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      I'd like to totally agree with your agreement.

  • @Kehich
    @Kehich 3 года назад +2

    I never knew there was such a rule. I always went with my ear and chose that option which sounded better. And which fit the required context, that is.

    • @hannofranz7973
      @hannofranz7973 3 года назад +1

      I think going with your
      instinct is a good decision here. I'd do so myself. Knowing that there is a difference, makes you able to distinguish both.

  • @doktornauka1
    @doktornauka1 2 года назад +2

    Greetings from Serbia. Could you make a lesson about academic/scholarly writing in English? How different it is from the English used in everyday speech? What approaches and styles are desirable, and what should be avoided? For example, if someone wants to publish a paper in an English-language journal.

    • @WriterScience
      @WriterScience 2 года назад +1

      A great way to learn academic discourse is to read it. That might sound simplistic, but it's backed by a lot of research that says we acquire writing style subconsciously through input. In other words, as you read academic text you will begin to notice familiar grammar forms and vocabulary that will help you when it comes time to write. There are some general principles you can learn -- a good place to start is They Say, I Say by Gerald Graff and Writing for the Humanities by Eric Hyott (especially the chapter on the Uneven U) -- but ultimately the best way to learn academic writing is to read lots of it. Notice what you like, and study it; try to figure out its structure and mimic it in your own writing. The best English teacher I ever had told us to Steal style. Good luck!

    • @doktornauka1
      @doktornauka1 2 года назад

      @@WriterScience Thank you!

  • @ТарасСтецько-н5щ
    @ТарасСтецько-н5щ 3 года назад +1

    The Word spell check always highlights in blue split infinitive every time I use it. And I keep using it.

  • @gianlucac.8944
    @gianlucac.8944 3 года назад +1

    Amen. Much needed and clear cut lesson, thanks Gideon

  • @jm8822
    @jm8822 3 года назад +1

    Way to go man! jajaja Next time they will think twice before making comments like that. Your video was a simple smack on the face. I really enjoyed this video.

  • @БогданКостюченко-ц4о

    Thank you, Gideon! I haven't been taught this rule, though I've heard something about it. Now I know that it's not a rule at all.

  • @sbclaridge
    @sbclaridge 2 года назад +1

    Most other languages with infinitives tend to form them with a single word. This is true of the Romance family, which had a disproportionate impact on English vocabulary but not so much its grammar. From what I can tell, Scandinavian/North Germanic languages seem closest to English with respect to their handling of the infinitive; although English is a West Germanic language, I believe it took in some major North Germanic influences early in its history.
    I haven't really heard of split infinitives being a thing in other West Germanic languages, where infinitives also seem to exist as one word.

  • @xandergross8474
    @xandergross8474 3 года назад +1

    How about "Users were told to check regularly their phones for updates"
    Sounds clear and great for me

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      No it doesn't. It's equally ambiguous. "to regularly check" is the only one which is clear.

  • @ConceptHut
    @ConceptHut 3 года назад +1

    I wonder why certain ordering sound better than others. Seems there would be underlying reasons for it to be so.

    • @WriterScience
      @WriterScience 2 года назад

      If the split infinitive sounds wrong, it's probably because our ears were trained by that old prescriptivist rule. Even if it sounds wrong, the split infinitive promotes clarity in writing style, and it's sometimes necessary.

  • @swordmandj7293
    @swordmandj7293 3 года назад +1

    Sir I love you and your work.you are best English teacher in this universe.

  • @rossonmars5690
    @rossonmars5690 3 года назад +6

    😅😅 Apparently there are a lot of great English writers, but very few fond readers.🖖❤️

  • @dodgermartin4895
    @dodgermartin4895 3 года назад +1

    How about ending a sentence with a preposition, as in "Where are you going to?"

    • @WriterScience
      @WriterScience 2 года назад

      That's another rule that was inherited from Latin but doesn't actually apply to English. However, I try to avoid putting a preposition at the end of the sentence -- not because there's anything wrong with the syntax, but because the full stop lends a certain emphasis to the item at the end of the sentence, so it makes more sense to give the emphasis to the object rather than to its preposition.

    • @dodgermartin4895
      @dodgermartin4895 2 года назад

      @@WriterScience Sir, I have a confession. English is not my native language. I was born and raised in a place called the United States of America; therefore, I speak what is known as American-lish. In my travels through Europe, I discovered that in England, they speak a totally different language called "English." Now, English and American-lish are similar, and sometimes we can actually understand each other, but not always. For example.... 99.9999% of native American-lish speakers will not know what a "zed" is. But why the heck am I saying all this? OK... let's talk American-lish grammar. Was it us who find "to boldly go..." as the preferential way of saying things? Thank you, Captain Kirk. And I vociferously object that a prepositional phrase can not be an indirect object!!! If I say, "I gave him a book," the pronoun "him" is an indirect object, but if I say, "I gave a book to him," that has the exact same meaning and both are grammatically acceptable (in American-lish), so why can not the prepositional phrase, "to him" also be an indirect object!? Hey, I need a refill of my cup o' Joe (American-lish for "cup of coffee")... gotsta go.....

  • @androsRoccha
    @androsRoccha 2 года назад

    A friend of mine who graduated in English Literature was a critic on splitting infinitive by adverbs. I thought that was spoken English so I avoid to use it in formal documents. I found other sources against it, but could never understand how it kept been used anyway. some Latin languages suffered a lot of chances thought out the time, what was grammatically wrong became accepted on speaking manner, then became tolerated on writing, and eventually turned ‘correct’. Maybe that was the reason some people tried to stick to the classic standard.

  • @zulkiflijamil4033
    @zulkiflijamil4033 2 года назад

    Hello , Gideon. Your lesson on the split infinitive is simply the first time ever I know this. Now I simply wish to really understand this topic. And to get this so interesting subject, I need to continuously practise. And that quote by Raymond Chandler is so inspirational. Cheers,Gideon.
    🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇

  • @vladimirpanov8672
    @vladimirpanov8672 3 года назад +11

    To boldly kill the so-called rule. Btw, can you read minds, Gideon? Yesterday I contemplated asking you to shed some light on the matter, and voilà... Thank you sir!

  • @diego986
    @diego986 3 года назад +1

    2:35 Sometimes for reasons of style, you may wish to NOT split an infinitive...
    Could I say "wish NOT to split..." without change of meaning?
    Thank you :D

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      Yes, absolutely. Of course I split it intentionally but it's not required. You are free.

    • @highbird4986
      @highbird4986 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV Thank you, sir. I am not native speaker and always I tend to split. I guess people just don't read books enough to realize that there is more freedom to English than they were told in high school.

  • @Bartolini1991
    @Bartolini1991 3 года назад

    Hi. Could you make a video one day about how to create law provisions in english? When to use a should, when shall, when musn't when prohibited etc.? Thanks for a good video.

  • @brianhuff2083
    @brianhuff2083 2 года назад

    Really, it's important to understand this subject...

  • @zaphiraazoulay8863
    @zaphiraazoulay8863 2 дня назад

    You are clear, smart & funny!

  • @roiq5263
    @roiq5263 2 года назад

    What about "they told me not to do that". Or "to not do that"?

  • @18012009
    @18012009 3 года назад

    You look now so younger, just because of this T-shirt. Hehe. But seriously, this channel is a must. Thank you

  • @nouraaljourny1949
    @nouraaljourny1949 3 года назад +19

    Lool😂
    Luck you tulius agrippa
    Our best teacher has created an entire video explaining your criticism.
    And as usual, our lovely teacher hit the nail on the head ❤❤❤
    piece of advice ya tulius:
    next time When you notice that someone has made a mistake, you should only pointing out that mistake, do not deny their ability to do the whole thing.
    It's so rude and unfair.

    • @mamymimma
      @mamymimma 3 года назад +3

      👏well said!

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for you support

    • @michellekatarina17
      @michellekatarina17 3 года назад +2

      Excellent point. I reckon the same. Maybe next time this person will show up and teach us some English. I bet he will have to prepare a lot before..amazing work, as always Sir. Highly appreciate your time and dedication 🙏🙌👏

  • @kastorskyk70
    @kastorskyk70 3 года назад +9

    brilliant and highly entertaining !

  • @mrholmes2855
    @mrholmes2855 3 года назад +4

    Sir please teach us when we can use an indefinite articles(a/an) before uncountable nouns
    for ex : he has a good knowledge(uncountable) of english...! When we use a/an before uncountables

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +2

      good question. I'll think about it

    • @wildebeest773
      @wildebeest773 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV Ah yeah...It would be wonderful if you would make a video about it please, Gideon, though I must say I've never been disappointed with any topic you chose. Many thanks.

    • @wildebeest773
      @wildebeest773 3 года назад

      A very intersting question indeed. Thank you.

    • @elenabigun6839
      @elenabigun6839 3 года назад +1

      We use "a" before uncountable nouns in cases when there's a defining word before them. For example: I had dinner but I had a nice dinner or She acquired knowledge but She acquired a detailed knowledge

    • @mrholmes2855
      @mrholmes2855 3 года назад

      @@elenabigun6839 thanks for the info...!

  • @ashfaqsheikh2197
    @ashfaqsheikh2197 3 года назад

    Plz make understand
    Usage of.. should at the start of a sentence.
    2.meaning of should have had to.
    3.to be and to being.

  • @shajikrishnan9597
    @shajikrishnan9597 3 года назад +1

    Happy to watch your video 🙏

  • @Roero
    @Roero 3 года назад +1

    Despite It comes from the latin, also in Italian we may split the infinitive exactly like you do, i was not aware there was an ongoing International debate about it

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      How can you split an infinitive in Italian? I thought it was one word.

    • @Roero
      @Roero 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV 1) è importante VERAMENTE capire l'argomento 2) è importante capire VERAMENTE l'argomento. in the First case the adverb is put prior to the verb while in the second case just after. Ok we don't have the preposition to, but to me the mechanism looks exactly the same, i mean i never had a doubt about the use of the "split" in English.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      Thanks for your insight into Italian. I didn't know that.

    • @ipericosaedro
      @ipericosaedro 3 года назад

      I agree with you. I would translate to “it is really important to understand” and “it is important to really understand” and it apparently works in a similar way

  • @jeffseben5890
    @jeffseben5890 3 года назад +2

    You're simply amazing!!!

  • @viktorko1851
    @viktorko1851 3 года назад

    I'd say that "you have to quietly go" means an urge/advice to leave the place/scene without attracting attention, while "you have to go quietly" can mean various things, depending on the context. Am I wrong?

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      That's an interesting point. You could be right. Moving the adverb can change the meaning and we have to consider that in our sentence but there is no arbitrary "rule" where to place the adverb.

  • @BoredOfBills
    @BoredOfBills 3 года назад +1

    GOD FORBID we should impose Latin rules on English or open an Academic Anglaise ! English must remain (boldly) elastic or it loses all its magic.

  • @gianlucac.8944
    @gianlucac.8944 3 года назад +1

    P.S. There's so much to learn about English and no need to uselessly worry about non-existing rules

  • @frutonana
    @frutonana 3 года назад

    Splitting is for emphasising =)

  • @colomba8722
    @colomba8722 3 года назад +1

    You are a GREAT teacher! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      you are a great student

    • @colomba8722
      @colomba8722 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV so kind of you to say, Gideon! I'd love to chat with you! 😁

  • @madidason3574
    @madidason3574 3 года назад

    1:11 Ironic. He could save others from splitting an infinitive - but not himself.

  • @victorkryshin
    @victorkryshin 3 года назад

    'Some thought Sir Jack simply too big, too multi-faceted a being for lesser mortals, often of an envious aspect, to fully grasp; others suspected that a tactical withholding, which deprived the scrutineer of key or consistent evidence, lay behind his technique of dominance.' Juiian Barnes - England, England
    PS. Pardon for a long quote

  • @jeffdege4786
    @jeffdege4786 2 года назад

    It was in the most tragic days of World War II, when the life of Britain, nay, of all Europe, hung in the balance. Churchill prepared a highly important speech to deliver in Parliament, and, as a matter of custom, submitted an advanced draft to the Foreign Office for comment. Back came the speech with no word save a notation that one of the sentences ended with a preposition, and an indication where the error should be eliminated. To this suggestion, the Prime Minister replied with the following note: "This is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put."
    - The Wall Street Journal, 9 Dec 1948 ("Pepper and Salt")

  • @grawl69
    @grawl69 2 года назад

    The Chandler's quote is hilarious :)

  • @Selene-u3X
    @Selene-u3X 3 года назад

    Hallo dear Gideon, l'm not brave enough to boldly break ancient grammar rules. More confident after your illuminating lesson💡 teaching it's possible to freely express ideas in a right context. Split infinitive is not a crime😅Thanks to the best grammarian.Cheers👍💯❤️

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      yes good point. It's important to freely express yourself.

  • @brianhuff2083
    @brianhuff2083 2 года назад

    I'd like to welcome everyone out there, warmly... It's very limiting to some that the modifier can't be moved beyond just a word away...

  • @lucianocarossa2431
    @lucianocarossa2431 3 года назад

    You are great.never mind people showing off

  • @swordmandj7293
    @swordmandj7293 3 года назад

    Which book is best for learning English grammar?

  • @dudablack2426
    @dudablack2426 3 года назад

    Very interesting!! Never heard about it, really like this class 🙏🏻😘

  • @attilavoros-bene5017
    @attilavoros-bene5017 Год назад

    I have always been taught not to use split infinitive. I have always been taught to not use spilt infintive. Which one sounds more natural?

  • @roxavqqq
    @roxavqqq 3 года назад +1

    Great video. I love your vocabulary e.g. overzealously. Stay mellow.

  • @evanioviana2630
    @evanioviana2630 3 года назад +1

    The Zeitgeist Banana Split hahaha. The split infinitive is not bad grammar, it is becoming more and more acceptable

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment. Good writers have always ignored the "rule"

  • @maurocastagnera8949
    @maurocastagnera8949 3 года назад

    I am really convinced that the best way to learn English is being aware that there are no grammar rules such so strick, it depends on the situation. What's more you have to laught and learn from mistakes you make. In other words, learning should be fun! 😊 Thanks Gideon for your funny way to teach English language 👍

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      Good grammar helps you communicate more effectively but what I object to is made up rules that make no sense. Cheers

  • @Michal.Kaminski
    @Michal.Kaminski 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant video. Good work!

  • @jonyaleon
    @jonyaleon 3 года назад

    Master! I hate how people square grammar in such a way that language becomes tasteless.

  • @sebastian1200
    @sebastian1200 3 года назад

    Great riposte to that guy’s comment. I accept constructive criticism but not such toxic statements like he did. I’d recommend him to shut up, learn English harder, get more empathy to others and think twice before writing any comment in order not to offend those whom it conserns.
    Gideon, great video. You know „your shit” and You’re the legend! 😁👍

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      Exactly I welcome constructive criticism. This wasn't it.

  • @manjirabanerjee7169
    @manjirabanerjee7169 3 года назад

    I'd rather the internet connection was/were good.?
    l'd prefer the connection was/were/be good..?
    Sir would you mind checking the above sent..and correct them?

  • @Tony32
    @Tony32 3 года назад

    The Loch Ness monster does exist, Sasquatch told me so.

  • @petenorton883
    @petenorton883 3 года назад

    Dear Gideon to boldly split infinitives which no man has split before was always a joke when I was young. As Churchill said about the equally stupid rule not ending sentences with a preposition “This is the type of errant pedantry up with which I will not put.”

  • @lopamudraray4571
    @lopamudraray4571 3 года назад

    Sounds convincing.

  • @longhoacaophuc8293
    @longhoacaophuc8293 Год назад +1

    who the heck invented this rule???

  • @frfancha
    @frfancha 3 года назад

    I would argue that "to boldly go" is not a split infinitive but that combining the adverb boldly and the verb go you get a "new" verb with infinitive = to boldly go

    • @notwithouttext
      @notwithouttext 2 года назад

      if that were true there would be no split infinitives at all

  • @evanherk
    @evanherk 2 года назад

    let's cheerfully split infinitives that have never been split before... !

  • @Johan-vk5yd
    @Johan-vk5yd 3 года назад

    Thank you for this!

  • @Tony32
    @Tony32 3 года назад +2

    That's a silly rule, apparently equally silly rules like; never end a sentence with a preposition, double negatives (because two negatives make positive, math!) "ain't" as a no-no, came from a book by an amateur grammarian called Robert Lowth, published in 1762. At the time, probably for the first time since forever, (industrial revolution?) a lot people were climbing the social latter and needed a guide to linguistic correctness, they desperately wanted to distance themselves from the plebes and they took Robert Lowth's book as their bible.
    The rule appears again in "A Grammar of the English Language" (1931) by George Curme, but this time is more of a suggestion than anything:
    "If the adverb should immediately precede the finite verb, we feel that it should immediately precede also the infinitive"
    This is what read on the internet, and if its on the internet it must be true 😉

  • @sulochanabehera1949
    @sulochanabehera1949 3 года назад

    Which grammar book is best for learning English grammar?

  • @addicted2caffeine
    @addicted2caffeine 3 года назад +1

    very true

  • @swordmandj7293
    @swordmandj7293 3 года назад

    Which book is best for learning English grammar??

    • @swordmandj7293
      @swordmandj7293 3 года назад

      Sir I kindly request you to answer my question.

  • @rickebuschcatherine2729
    @rickebuschcatherine2729 2 года назад

    In French, in poetry you can change the place of the words to sound better, or to ryme easily... Sp why not in English who is more poetic beacause of his accentuation we don't have in French... I not a expert in English, but I don't see any raison to make a lot of fuss about it... but may be I'm stupid;... So thanks to talk to us about it.

  • @gp-fn6li
    @gp-fn6li 3 года назад

    Brilliant lesson as always!! Utterly devoted to you, the best teacher of RUclips channel !!thank you Gideon🤩🤩love from italy

  • @ney_108
    @ney_108 3 года назад

    Useful video for all students

  • @tatyanaaleksandrova9681
    @tatyanaaleksandrova9681 3 года назад +1

    It seems to me that split infinitive sometimes sounds more poetically.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      sometimes but sometimes the opposite is true.

  • @wildebeest773
    @wildebeest773 3 года назад

    Another brilliant lesson as always. Thank you Gideon. As for the very interesting unsplitting example that you asked us to try: "Sales are expected to more than double in the next six months.", how about re-writing it to: "Sales are expected to double or more in the next six months."? Will it be correct still? Thanks. Will

    • @wildebeest773
      @wildebeest773 3 года назад

      I guess the meaning will have changed a little. The first expresses great certainty on the speak's part that the increase will not only be double but the second shows a degree of uncertainty as to whether the sales will just double or possibly more (than double).

    • @sergiyshklyar2573
      @sergiyshklyar2573 3 года назад +1

      I'd write "Sales are expected to increase at least twofold ​in the next six months" or "Sales are expected to double ​in the next six months", with some change of meaning.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      There are other ways of saying it but the split infinitive one is equally good.

    • @wildebeest773
      @wildebeest773 3 года назад

      @@sergiyshklyar2573 Thank you for your input.

    • @wildebeest773
      @wildebeest773 3 года назад

      ​@@LetThemTalkTV Thanks for the comment, Gideon! Must say...to us who speak English as a second/foreign language, this could be a tricky one to get right. As you kindly suggested, I will ignore this "rule" altogether and at the same time pay more attention to where native speakers put the adverb in relation to the infinitive that it is supposed to modify going forward.
      Best regards :)

  • @bigscarysteve
    @bigscarysteve 3 года назад

    I'm a native English speaker. I was never taught the split infinitive rule in school. I only heard of it when I was about thirty years old. I now avoid splitting infinitives in formal writing, but I don't worry about it the rest of the time.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад

      No need to avoid it in formal writing. Great writers don't. There is no rule.

  • @RaduB.
    @RaduB. 3 года назад +1

    I had no idea that such a rule existed.
    Real or not...
    I'm still confused. 😀

  • @user-lb5cq8rs8i
    @user-lb5cq8rs8i 3 года назад

    OK, and what about just putting an adverb at the end of the sentence according to the grammar rules? "They were asked to check the notifications regularly"-isn't this sentence correct?

  • @nayseability
    @nayseability 2 года назад

    Hello, can we book CPE exam preparation courses with you?

  • @Galenus1234
    @Galenus1234 2 года назад +1

    You are wrong about the latin infinitives. It's true that the present infinitives and the perfect active infinitive are just one word (laudare, laudari = "to praise" / "to be praised", laudavisse = "to have praised"), the passive past tense infinitive consists of two words (laudatus esse = "to have been praised").
    Litterally you can put as many words of the sentence between them without breaking any grammar rule.

    • @Galenus1234
      @Galenus1234 2 года назад

      Puto(1) eam(2) AMATAM maxime(3) ESSE.
      I believe(1) her(2) TO HAVE BEEN very much(3) LOVED.

  • @DawnPeacock
    @DawnPeacock 3 года назад

    Yesss Stick it to the sticklers!!! Put these phony rules in the ground where they belong and focus on clarity and elegance. By the way, have you read Pinker's "The Stuff of Thought"? It truly lives up to its subtitle: Language as a Window into Human Nature. Would love to hear you discuss some of the points in there some time.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your comment. I'll check it out. Anything by Steven Pinker is worth reading

    • @DawnPeacock
      @DawnPeacock 3 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV Wonderful! I really like your style, by the way! Was happy when I found you a few weeks ago.

  • @mariambajelidze8515
    @mariambajelidze8515 3 года назад

    So interesting 🤩 Thanks a lot 🧡

  • @bookmouse2719
    @bookmouse2719 2 года назад

    But, I love Star Trek.....To boldly go where no man has gone before! da da da ta da ta daaaaaa! etc. And, being told by a Policeman, to go quietly.....makes more sense.

  • @gastonkosloff9072
    @gastonkosloff9072 3 года назад +1

    the guy who criticised you doesn't know what prescriptive and descriptive grammar is

  • @beatricetreadwell5785
    @beatricetreadwell5785 3 года назад +1

    I so enjoy all your videos!! Great stuff and great fun! 😃👍✨✨✨✨

  • @davidprojet6766
    @davidprojet6766 3 года назад

    Thank you very much .

  • @lorenasmartevents5354
    @lorenasmartevents5354 3 года назад

    Oh, eow. Thanks for sharing
    My big doubts finally dissapeared i just a zip! Now I know how to finally use them. (correctly).

  • @rubivitae
    @rubivitae 3 года назад +1

    You are the best........💜

  • @wujeksmietanko
    @wujeksmietanko 3 года назад

    The quote from Chandler shall serve as a bottom line for this dispute.

  • @andyarken7906
    @andyarken7906 3 года назад

    Wouldn't the unsplit version be "I'd like to welcome everybody out there warmly"? As word order rules go, we were taught to put adverbs first or last, and in very few cases, before the verb (reality showed me that this is actually much more common than our teacher wanted us to believe). But between the verb and the object? Eww.

  • @ClaireDavies-p9d
    @ClaireDavies-p9d Год назад

    AKA a totes legend