Your English Teacher Lied to You | 6 Fake Grammar Rules you learnt at school

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  • @TheDiveO
    @TheDiveO 2 года назад +11

    my first Englisch teacher was a narcissist only interested in ruling, not teaching language and its rules in any meaningful manner. Ironically, I learned English first through British computer books in the early 80's, actually preparing me to a level where I was still taking classes in school when I hadn't to anymore. Thank you so much for your channel, if only we have had it in the 80's...

  • @fazilisik9408
    @fazilisik9408 2 года назад +81

    The "on" in "go on" isn't a preposition.It's an "adverbial particle''.

    • @thebackwash
      @thebackwash 2 года назад +12

      Followed by a present progressive, not a gerund 😉

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 2 года назад +4

      And 'to go on' is different from 'to go'...

    • @askadia
      @askadia 2 года назад +1

      @@AnnabelleJARankin Foreigner here, shouldn't one say "different THAN" instead of "different FROM"? Or are both correct?

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 2 года назад +9

      @@askadiaHi! Actually, 'different from' is absolutely the correct form although many people wrongly use 'different than'!

    • @askadia
      @askadia 2 года назад +4

      @@AnnabelleJARankin I see, thank you! Have a nice day 😚

  • @saphorr
    @saphorr Год назад +3

    13:00 Another nice example from Shakespeare is the double superlative for emphasis used by Mark Antony in describing Brutus' attack on Caesar: "This was the most unkindest cut of all"

  • @Diebe-ks8ws
    @Diebe-ks8ws 2 года назад +22

    The weird thing is that I have always known these rules, as "it doesn't seem right", behind my mind, but never thought of them as rules. Now it is more apparent.

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 2 года назад +1

      That's because language is mainly a big memory exercise, irregular forms occur commonly otherwise they become regular. This has happened to many verbs and to wed is in the process as to marry has become more popular.

  • @ДианаЛебедева-н4е
    @ДианаЛебедева-н4е 2 года назад +25

    Thank you for this great video and your examples. I am a teacher of English in my country, and as you probably know, teachers who are not native speakers have to learn all the time to be ready to answer all the questions their students may have :) The information you gave here is so valuable for me. Wishing you great success, Gideon!

  • @mrtunapie6653
    @mrtunapie6653 2 года назад +4

    A good teacher is someone who is engaging and interesting to listen to. You, sir, are a good teacher.

  • @sarumano884
    @sarumano884 2 года назад +89

    There's an Esperanto joke that English grammar is very simple - There is only ONE rule.
    1. Every word in English has its own grammar rules
    😁

    • @musicforaarre
      @musicforaarre 2 года назад +3

      😆😆😆😆😆 Funny ! Aarre Peltomaa p.s. Don't forget. There was a conference of monkeys, Orang Utans, Gorillas, Chimpanzees, and Baboons. They decided to create a common language so that they could speak to each other. That language became English ! 🙃

    • @YeshuaIsTheTruth
      @YeshuaIsTheTruth 2 года назад +1

      Facts

    • @BFDT-4
      @BFDT-4 11 месяцев назад +1

      Excellent!

  • @andrewmcdonnell6369
    @andrewmcdonnell6369 2 года назад +21

    I absolutely love these videos ❣️. I've been teaching English for 6 years in total, admittedly with a break in between. I teach English for a tech company in México City and I share many of your sentiments when it comes to language learning. Thanks for everything Gideon.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад +4

      Thank you my dear colleague

    • @alanwhiplington5504
      @alanwhiplington5504 2 года назад +1

      Overall, Gideon is one of the best EFL teachers on RUclips. He has an excellent insight into the English language and tends to avoid saying misleading things. Quite a few of the others are incompetent and spout rubbish.

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik 2 года назад +3

    All members of The Whom are excellent musicians. 🙃

  • @pitulanek
    @pitulanek 2 года назад +18

    I love this! I've long since learnt to say that English doesn't really have rules, more like patterns and tendencies ;) Obviously, there are some rules but I make sure to say there is probably some exception I can't think of right now (but if you can - I say to my students - let me know, so I know for the future). My favourite is the "no *will* after *if*". At the start of someone's journey with the conditionals I don't even mention that yes, in some cases, you might see them worryingly close to each other. With more advanced students I say "there are some situations when you can say that but this isn't one, not yet."
    About the contractions and writing - I think it might be some misconception carried over from formal writing. Students preparing for taking exams like CAE etc. have to learn to write some very formal pieces of writing and they often find it hard to remember not to contract in those. So maybe some teachers just expand the rule because of this? Not sure. But register sure is tricky sometimes! When I started learning foreign languages we mostly had course books, novels and maybesometimes some films to learn from. So we all sounded a bit pompous ;) Now my students find it hard to get rid of the "gonna" and "coulda" type of forms because they learn a lot from rather informal exchanges on the social media.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад +9

      All very good points. As for the contractions I always say "write for the reader".

    • @pitulanek
      @pitulanek 2 года назад +5

      @@LetThemTalkTV That's a very clever way of putting it! And, as a bonus, can be applied to life in general.

    • @653j521
      @653j521 2 года назад +2

      Or "should of" for "should've".

    • @jaystone4816
      @jaystone4816 2 года назад

      English has rules or nobody would understand what one English speaker said to another English speaker. Most speakers learn the basic rules before they start grade school. English has a lot of irregularities to learn, and again some of them are absorbed by children listening to or talking to parents and watching television. There is a current prevalent myth that any way a particular group speaks English is on equal footing with any other way. That isn't the case and never will be. Linguists and linguistic anthropologists have recognized the way a language is spoken (and/or written) communicates more than just thoughts and feelings. Consciously and unconsciously you communicate to others your racial, ethnic and socioeconomic background, area of the country, intelligence and level of education, and many other details. And the person listening to you is consciously and unconsciously assigning meanings - even stereotypes - to YOU. One common one is a Southern accent. Subtle and not so subtle meanings can be assigned by speakers outside the South, and some meanings or assumptions can be negative. It's not uncommon for professionals or TV and media persons with Southern accents and speech patterns to attend special classes or tutor-supervised training to reduce or eliminate a Southern accent. Case in point: Stephen Colbert. He's a native of South Carolina, and he's remarked his natural speaking voice is characteristic of that state. He received training early in his career to eliminate his regional accent, and it only pops up again when he visits family and friends when he goes back home. This isn't a new phenomenon in America. As modern life means much more geographic, social and career mobility in the second half of the 20th and into the 21st centuries, so has the rise of speech training and modification private education.

  • @lukasgayer5393
    @lukasgayer5393 2 года назад +4

    Thank you so much for your content. As a teacher I find it so helpful! Many of your examples and explanations are so great, that I am writing them down and can´t wait to tell them to my students during our lessons.

  • @agaw1448
    @agaw1448 2 года назад +15

    Hahahaha, listening to the video about rules to be broken, I learned some rules I wasn't aware of.
    You're excellent teacher!

    • @RobBCactive
      @RobBCactive 2 года назад

      English rules are made to be broken, "it's the exception that proves the rule" 😆

  • @marcelroberto2270
    @marcelroberto2270 2 года назад +1

    Dear Gideon I'm used to watching your videos even if I've been studying British English with my londoner teacher. My teacher appreciates your deeper knowledge about grammar. Both of you are important to improve my learning. This video was amazing and I'll share with professor
    William.Thanks a lot

  • @sashole1
    @sashole1 2 года назад +2

    Another case of using "if you will" grammatically correctly is in the meaning of "as it were", "so to speak", "as they say", and so forth.

  • @freddiemercury8700
    @freddiemercury8700 2 года назад +4

    I must admit that you are a HELLUVA teacher! Many thanks for your time as well as the lesson. Take it easy matey.

  • @semplicementeanita6563
    @semplicementeanita6563 2 года назад +93

    Come to think of it, English being a mashup of other languages (which individually have rules not compatible with the others) it's only logical that there are so many exceptions. A non-native speaker can learn the basic grammar rules but to be able to recognise the difference in meaning between "The lecturer closed the door and went on to teach the new material" and "He went on teaching although nobody paid any attention" takes a lot of experience, reading and above all getting the feel of the language. All those BUTs and irregularities make the study of English complex and challenging BUT I love it regardless.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад +37

      we speak a bastard tongue

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 2 года назад +11

      @@LetThemTalkTV can't wait to see the reaction of my colleagues when I inform them that we actually teach a bastard language, they'll probably "excommunicate" me 😂

    • @ericcartier2233
      @ericcartier2233 2 года назад +9

      @@LetThemTalkTV no, a mongrel language.... cause the parents who gave birth to the Eng language were not 2 but a lot more than that. -:))

    • @maiter6317
      @maiter6317 2 года назад +1

      Which is the difference between the two examples you mentioned?

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 2 года назад +12

      @@maiter6317 in the first example the lecturer, after completing one action (closing the door) switched to another (teaching) whereas in the second example he proceeded with the same action (continued with what he's already been doing).

  • @peabody1976
    @peabody1976 2 года назад +4

    13:49 The use of contractions in formal writing actually can change a meaning or nuance, and this is made clear:
    "You won't walk here" (formal, meaning doubt is present)
    "You will not walk here" (formal, meaning force will be used if you try)

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA 2 года назад

      but that just future tense with a tone :) , same in almost every western language i think..
      jij zal daar niet lopen,
      tu ne vas pas y promener,
      du shallt nicht , ...
      don't know enough other european language to repeat it in those ;)

    • @lynnebattaglia-triggs1042
      @lynnebattaglia-triggs1042 3 дня назад

      Perhaps, but there is no true difference in meaning.

  • @petersdotter1
    @petersdotter1 2 года назад +22

    "Rues of grammar" are rarely taught in the US these days. As a foreign language high school teacher, I've had to teach English grammar. I have to explain verbs, pronouns, prepositions. Amazing!

    • @buckwylde7965
      @buckwylde7965 2 года назад +5

      Native English speakers learn the rules at their mothers' knees. English classes for native speakers should mostly consist of reading and writing English with an eye to improving both, not studying the grammar they already know. I learned more about the mechanics of English in my Spanish classes than I ever did in any of my English classes.

    • @stranger9216
      @stranger9216 2 года назад +2

      The only time I ever sat down to study English grammar was when I was about studying French. Natives rarely study grammar

    • @ericbarlow6772
      @ericbarlow6772 2 года назад +1

      @@buckwylde7965 we don’t always learn grammar rules natively. We also learn the grammar mistakes of our dialects. I know many who use the adjective good instead of the adverb well. They will say I am good instead of I am well.

    • @Shiva182Katarina
      @Shiva182Katarina 2 года назад +1

      @@stranger9216 That's weird in my eyes... everyone in my country have to study our native language grammar before we do it in English

    • @653j521
      @653j521 2 года назад

      You, of course, know what is taught in almost every school district, private and public.

  • @christopherdieudonne
    @christopherdieudonne 2 года назад +3

    Some of these I knew about but contractions being ok in formal writing blew my mind. That's great to know !

    • @AnnabelleJARankin
      @AnnabelleJARankin 2 года назад +1

      That's debatable in some instances....
      be careful if you are writing in an academic setting such as university, for instance.

  • @TheDogMotherOfJen
    @TheDogMotherOfJen 2 года назад +5

    The only channel, teacher and a person I trust blindly in this world full of everything virtual and misinformation.
    🥰

  • @mariambajelidze8515
    @mariambajelidze8515 2 года назад +6

    English is so weird but your videos makes it understandable😁 Thank you🧡 Love your channel🧡 A separate video about adjectives, especially ones with two syllables would be awesome as it's a mind-boggling thing😁

  • @isabelstokes4042
    @isabelstokes4042 2 года назад +2

    More perfect? Most perfect? There are no degrees of perfection. It's a superlative in itself. I'm surprised a grammar teacher didn't know this!

  • @heatherwood2664
    @heatherwood2664 2 года назад +2

    *I would like to offer you the highest marks for your presentation. I am just a poor boy, however, the first written compliment I got, was from a stuffed shirt manager, who complimented me on my clear and concise style (of writing collection letters). I use a lot of contractions in everyday prose, and I have been published in national journals for my editorial commentaries. I really enjoy your videos, and am a mad fan!*

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876
    @jensphiliphohmann1876 2 года назад +1

    04:32f: I sometimes heard "plenty of" instead. Is this regarded correct?

  • @cordasuenaviolin604
    @cordasuenaviolin604 2 года назад +1

    What a wealth of examples! Thank you very much!

  • @rodoami7975
    @rodoami7975 5 дней назад

    That's awesome 👍!! Thanks 🙏

  • @sidneycarter8365
    @sidneycarter8365 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, teacher, for answering my question made for 6 months ago, after watching the video ”5 Ways We use Will as Present Tense!
    I wrote the following: If you’ll let me finish, I’ll take questions at the end.
    I went on asking you to comment on this.
    You really do us a great favour!

  • @NikolausUndRupprecht
    @NikolausUndRupprecht 2 года назад

    Thank you for clarifying when to use contractions.

  • @freddiemercury8700
    @freddiemercury8700 2 года назад

    Good to have you here Gideon! Never before, have I seen you uploading on Tuesdays.

  • @parusudi1
    @parusudi1 Год назад

    Great video!!! Thank you!!!

  • @lorenasmartevents5354
    @lorenasmartevents5354 2 года назад

    Oh, woe. Vere, very intetesting... Demistifying severeal grammar rules! Awesome! Ty for sharing.

  • @abdelhalimmechti9268
    @abdelhalimmechti9268 2 года назад

    you existing is a blessing to human kind

  • @elleh3495
    @elleh3495 2 года назад +1

    My mom used to grammar-shame me😢. Could never have a conversation with her because she was waiting for me to mess up, so she could interrupt me repeatedly with her English lessons. Severe language trauma...

  • @roberthuck5589
    @roberthuck5589 2 года назад +1

    I had a friend in college who was from Germany and in her English classes in Germany she was always told not to use contractions in formal writing. I told her this was not true because sometimes not using a contraction will break up the rhythm of the sentence. She really liked my advice and acted like I had taken a giant weight off of her shoulders.

    • @jaystone4816
      @jaystone4816 2 года назад

      At the higher academic standards of college and university, contractions are not used. Open a college textbook sometime or read an academic journal article or paper. You won't see contractions.

  • @lessonslearned6760
    @lessonslearned6760 2 года назад +2

    Im a native English speaker and I speak Latin as a second language and spanish as a 3rd ( although my spanish still needs a lot of work) so I stumbled upon this video by accident and I have to say it’s given me a really interesting perspective because even though my Latin is pretty good my native language obviously comes most naturally to me and although I’m sure that I follow all of these “rules” I am nearly completely ignorant of their existence! And I am quite confident that I would be a far better Latin teacher than an English teacher because much like an English student who may watch this video I had to study all of the rules of grammar in order to pick up my second language ( luckily it is very similar to Spanish so I didn’t have to start all over lol) also I make my living as a music teacher and I can’t help but to notice how similar learning grammar is to learning music theory; it’s very helpful and kind of a road map to get to where you are going and yet many of the people who make the best music don’t know the first thing about music theory. I guess the lesson to be learned from all of this is that if you are learning a new language definitely learn grammar but don’t worry too much about it because at the end of the day they are not “rules” they are conventions and the point of language is to understand and to be understood so don’t let the fear of making a mistake or speaking”improperly “ stop you from using the language. I just returned from holiday in Spain and hardly anyone there spoke English fluently so I was forced to use my poor spanish but what I found was that people seemed to really appreciate the fact that I was making the attempt to speak in their language and it was actually a lot of fun !

    • @denidale4701
      @denidale4701 2 года назад +1

      I am curious, how did you end up with speaking a dead language as second language? That sounds like an interesting story.

    • @stranger9216
      @stranger9216 2 года назад

      @@denidale4701 seriously!😅 I couldn't wrap my head around that too

  • @poladelarosa8399
    @poladelarosa8399 2 года назад

    Thanks for the segment on Who/Whom.

  • @skafiend4319
    @skafiend4319 Год назад

    12:15 I found one more example with the word "fun". more fun and the most fun. funner just sounds strange. Thank you for the lesson.

  • @hekkoCZ
    @hekkoCZ 2 года назад +1

    On topic of the preposition followed by infinitive: "go on" is a phrasal verb. The preposition here belongs to the verb and changes its meaning (to go means to move, generally; to go on means to continue). In the example sentence (he was talking about his job and then he went on to talk about his holiday), the verb "to talk" doesn't really come after a preposition because the preposition is part of the phrasal verb.

    • @marythurlow9132
      @marythurlow9132 2 года назад

      That 's a good answer. I get tired of explaining that 'on' is not an adverb.

  • @НатальяСкулкина-к6ы

    I've been waiting for this video all my English learning life) Thank you!

  • @dudablack2426
    @dudablack2426 2 года назад

    Thanks Gideon, great class! 😍

  • @RECAMPAIRE
    @RECAMPAIRE 2 года назад +15

    In French, we say : « this is the exception that proves the rule ».
    I studied French, English, Latin and German at school : but for me English grammar was the most easy.

    • @fabienneclavier5984
      @fabienneclavier5984 2 года назад +13

      Easiest 😉

    • @wingedhussar1117
      @wingedhussar1117 2 года назад +3

      In German we say that too: Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel. (Exceptions confirm the rule.)

    • @SwedishNeo
      @SwedishNeo 2 года назад

      Same here. Swedish is my mother tongue and I've studied English, French and German. The English grammar has always been the easiest, even easier than the Swedish grammar, especially when you try and teach it to someone else. :P

    • @dianaperpignan1231
      @dianaperpignan1231 2 года назад +3

      Very true. It’s beyond me to see so many people who are born and raised in the US make so many mistakes. They cannot even distinguish between “their” and “they’re”, “it’s” and “its”, “who” and “whom”

    • @fsinjin60
      @fsinjin60 2 года назад +1

      @@dianaperpignan1231 learning English by ear rather than written. Those sets of words sound the same to the American so they don’t differentiate the written form. Social media has revealed exactly how unintellectual the Americans are. Many use the excuse that they are talking their response but I know speech translators “fix” ‘there’ to ‘their’ or ‘they’re’ depending on usage. Lazy people wonder why people talk down to them. It’s because you let your mistakes stand.

  • @saracosta620
    @saracosta620 2 года назад +36

    As an English speaker, I subscribe to the breaking conventions wholeheartedly. As a teacher, I can only say one thing: do not ever break them in a test.

    • @jaystone4816
      @jaystone4816 2 года назад +3

      As an American English speaker in informal conversation and informal writing, contractions are used all the time by everyone. In higher academic circles, written articles, papers and textbooks do not. There the standard is formal writing only.

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA 2 года назад

      as a flemish in belgium, i first learned french with , AHH so extremely much exceptions!
      starting at 11.. so when started english courses at 14, when teacher said this is the rule, we were only to happy that it's wasn't followed be , 'except' ... ,
      but i've learned too, 'will keep borthering' huh, a will for present time? :), don't think i've ever heared it used that way..
      i would use : 'if you keep on' 'if you don't stop' ,
      so i don't really see the use in that exception will use in any of the exemples, am i missing something? :)

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA 2 года назад

      for my, 'more easy' sounds horribly wrong 😀

    • @mattmexor2882
      @mattmexor2882 2 года назад

      @@JeroenJA You might think breaking the rules of English is easy, but following them is even more easy when they are wrong. Using "more easy" allows the speaker to stress either "more" or "easy", which is an awkward thing to do with "easier". Sure you can say "easy-ERR" but you can't tell me that's not more jarring to the flow of the sentence than "MORE easy".

    • @JeroenJA
      @JeroenJA 2 года назад

      @@mattmexor2882 perhaps cause its same rule in dutch: gemakkelijk, gemakkelijker , gemakkelijkste

  • @isabelatence7035
    @isabelatence7035 2 года назад +2

    Good thing we can relax with rules, it helps a lot not to worry about how to use adjectives, I can't be pompous in English, I'm still in my infancy in English. Facilitate I prefer. Good to see you Gideon. See you in the next video😎 thanks!

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад +1

      I'm sure you're making good progress. Be relaxed with the rules

    • @isabelatence7035
      @isabelatence7035 2 года назад

      @@LetThemTalkTV thanks Professor 🧡

  • @DoodiePunk
    @DoodiePunk 2 года назад +1

    14:20 that's what I like about English, that its written formal form is close to its spoken one, compared to other languages, e.g. German. 🤐

  • @ShSwStudios
    @ShSwStudios 2 года назад +1

    The ambulance was spot on!
    To be fair I've met a number of english teachers in the past, many of whom told me to never break those rules. Therefore, if you'll keep on making such great videos about the english language, my grammar should be much better in no time at all! It possibly makes live more easy as well.
    _(Just trying to properly use what I've learned today, please anybody correct me wherever I'm wrong!)_

  • @dutchy1121
    @dutchy1121 2 года назад +1

    To whoM I speaking? Your point about using what sounds right is the best advice you can give. That is how language evolves.

  • @primopierre
    @primopierre 2 года назад +2

    If I will keep watching too much youtube videos, I will end up explaining to whom I owe my reports most urgently when I should’ve submitted them yesterday.

  • @barsukus13
    @barsukus13 Год назад

    Thank you!

  • @pradipiramdhan6293
    @pradipiramdhan6293 2 года назад

    I always love your teaching tips Gideon. It is so genuine

  • @ba8898
    @ba8898 2 года назад +5

    Really interesting vid! I disagree with the last opinion, though. Contractions should definitely be avoided in formal writing, e.g. business reports, university papers and probably formal letters. That they've become normal in business emails is just a feature of the fact that business email correspondence has become more and more informal overall. Contractions are okay in journalism (opinion pieces, etc.) and fiction (hence Orwell), but they definitely go against the existing conventions of academic writing.

    • @alanwhiplington5504
      @alanwhiplington5504 2 года назад +1

      You are right. it's worth noting that Cambridge exams directed towards foreign students of English always accept contractions as correct no matter how formal the written task. I think this is because they want to encourage the use of contractions which many non-natives seem to assume are slang.

  • @petersdotter1
    @petersdotter1 2 года назад

    From French, "if, then" is: present/future; imperfect/conditional; past perfect/future perfect. Makes total sense.

  • @richardharrow2513
    @richardharrow2513 2 года назад +56

    You must know the rules in order to break them. The way natives break the rules in colloquial speech is not the same as a learner would potentially break them :)

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад +18

      I agree with your first point. Learn the rules then break them

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 2 года назад +13

      Less-educated native speakers sometimes do make similar mistakes as the ESL learners (lower and intermediate level).They tend to confuse irregular verbs, phonetically similar elements (e,g, could've, could of), they make subjunctive errors, use double negatives, use adjective instead of adverb, but unlike non-native speakers they would never confuse tenses,phrasal verbs or prepositions.

    • @richardharrow2513
      @richardharrow2513 2 года назад +5

      Semplicemente Anita I wouldn’t call them errors it’s just what separates colloquial speech from say RP or Standard American. I’m no prescriptivist so I wouldn’t call those people less-educated

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 2 года назад +12

      @@richardharrow2513 ​ I don't think that a particular standard of language is superior to other varieties but I'm a teacher who teaches "standards" so prescriptivism is inherent. That doesn't necessarily mean that I'm subscribed to prescriptivism as ideology. P.S. Had no intention to offend less-educated people or sound condescending, I was just pointing out that people with less formal schooling are more inclined to be "descriptive" than people with academic degree.

    • @frankgradus9474
      @frankgradus9474 2 года назад +4

      "You must know the rules in order to break them." - the nail hit right on the head.
      Also, breaking the rules deliberately helps me come to grips with the rules I'm breaking.

  • @jlpack62
    @jlpack62 2 года назад

    precise, more precise, most precise.

  • @matlindell5022
    @matlindell5022 2 года назад +1

    It doesn’t get any better than your lessons!

  • @foogod4237
    @foogod4237 2 года назад +41

    Interestingly, the "if you will" exception is really a very British construction, which I think is almost never used in American English..

    • @ambiention
      @ambiention 2 года назад +3

      Nor the colonial dialects of British English that I've come across

    • @joeycrunch
      @joeycrunch 2 года назад +8

      Yeah, American here and I’ve never heard that construction. It sounds so off to my ear!

    • @donaldgrove2249
      @donaldgrove2249 2 года назад

      The sense of that "will" appears in some common American sayings, like "Boys will be boys" or "Evil will out", but not in any other American speech that I am familiar with. Us Yanks would construct the "if" sentence differently, like "If you keep doing that then what do you expect?" or with no "if" at all, like "Since you won't stop, this is going to happen" etc.

    • @mattp422
      @mattp422 2 года назад +3

      Agree. Literally no American says that, figuratively speaking.

    • @ColonelSandersLite
      @ColonelSandersLite 2 года назад +2

      I haven't finished this yet but all of the first four don't really apply to american english.

  • @BIGBEN9999999
    @BIGBEN9999999 2 года назад

    Interesting video, Thx! First one, but subscribed right away ;-)

  • @wh0tube
    @wh0tube 2 года назад

    I am learned, much from you, thank you. 🙏🏼

  • @Nunaromedus
    @Nunaromedus 2 года назад

    Thank you. It was an interesting lesson!

  • @subtronik9311
    @subtronik9311 2 года назад +2

    You forgot, 'MUCH Ado About Nothing', by a lesser known playwrite who may have influenced the course of British literary history.

  • @nicholasbeck1558
    @nicholasbeck1558 2 года назад +3

    Phrasal verbs such as "go on” act as an indivisible unit. The preposition can not be separated from the verb without changing the meaning of the phrasal verb. Nor can the verb in a phrasal verb stand-alone without changing its meaning. When phrasal verbs employ prepositions, their prepositions lose the quality and function that made them prepositions, and so they are no longer prepositions, but part of the stand-alone unit of the phrasal verb.
    So, your grammar rule was not violated by the example. :)

    • @utsavmaheshwari859
      @utsavmaheshwari859 2 года назад

      Yes absolutely! Rather, the verb in his example is “to go on to” which means “to abandon one activity in favour of a related activity”, but if you followed the rule and used a gerund after the verb “to go on”, it has the meaning of “to continue”, at least in my dialect of English.

  • @dhy5342
    @dhy5342 2 года назад

    I'd like your dissertation on the use, misuse, and alternatives to using the word "ain't".

  • @vincecallagher7636
    @vincecallagher7636 2 года назад

    I find it amazing that I know all this seemingly intuitively.

  • @glstka5710
    @glstka5710 2 года назад +2

    On contractions, I seem to remember that the American writer Damon Runyon (not sure of the spelling of his name) made fun of the "rule" against contractions by having his characters who were lower class New Yorkers try to be more sophisticated by never using contractions and the strange awkwardness that resulted made fun of the "rule".

  • @AlbertBoth
    @AlbertBoth 2 года назад

    Thank you for your great entertaining explanations!

  • @lazybaby525
    @lazybaby525 2 года назад

    It was interesting. I've been learning English for a long time. But I haven't known about these facts of English grammar. Thank you

  • @Stefan_trekkie
    @Stefan_trekkie 2 года назад +1

    English is my 3rd language and learn it by myself. I come from a phonetic language with different alphabet /Cyrillic/ and had a very hard time understanding the concept of writing a letter but not pronouncing it or pronouncing it differently when it's a certain combination.

  • @mmanga5
    @mmanga5 2 года назад

    Thanks! I love your videos. 🥰

  • @marcus577
    @marcus577 2 года назад

    I’m 100 English I was the spotted school boy at the back of the class. Randomly visit your pages. All the best.

  • @janetmackinnon3411
    @janetmackinnon3411 2 года назад

    Always interesting and ful lof insight. Thank you for your work.

  • @ibrahimabah2628
    @ibrahimabah2628 2 года назад

    thank you so much Teacher

  • @mamymimma
    @mamymimma 2 года назад

    Much needed, thanks a lot/very much!

  • @umka7536
    @umka7536 2 года назад

    With "if you will" example it is good to remember that "will" origins from German "wollen" - "to want". Hence, the meaning of "if you will" maybe more close to "if you want to" and has nothing to do with a future tense .

  • @MarkPMus
    @MarkPMus 2 года назад +4

    Good point re-contractions, but I wish you’d mentioned the absolute howler of an error that even native English speakers make, which is writing/saying should of etc… instead of should have. Mind you that probably needs a video of its own!

    • @markweatherill
      @markweatherill 2 года назад +1

      Should of, could of, would of! Yes, it's very poor. On a par with using 'brought' instead of 'bought'..!

    • @hmm7420
      @hmm7420 2 года назад

      I never say "should of, could of would of". I say "should've, could've, would've" quite regularly, however.

    • @MarkPMus
      @MarkPMus 2 года назад +1

      @@hmm7420 And you’d be correct. Could’ve is short for could have. Could of doesn’t make sense. OMG another AWFUL contraction error people, particularly in East London/Essex make, is confusing “his” and “he’s”. “Peter’s only gone and lost he’s keys!” instead of HIS keys. Drives me nuts.

  • @echalote-wada
    @echalote-wada 2 года назад

    1:11 'go on to talk' This 'on' is not a preposition, but an adverb. This example follows the rules.

  • @denidale4701
    @denidale4701 2 года назад +2

    I always assumed some "wrong" comparatives are used in spoken language because of the way we think. You might say "It was more" and then only think about what word you actually want to use. So you end up with things like "It was more funny than I expected" simply because you might have started out the sentence in the intention of saying "it was more amusing". Interesting to hear that it would actually not be wrong either way.

  • @soundscape26
    @soundscape26 2 года назад +1

    _for breaking glass_ - Solid improv skills right there. 😂
    Well, rules were made to be broken as they say. Also, rule number 5 on comparatives is worth a video all on its own... it's something I get wrong here and there.
    Thanks for another very nice video.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад

      thanks. yes, a lesson on comparatives sometime soon

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo 2 года назад +2

    You did it a couple times in this video. It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine. "He's older than me." I was taught that the rule governing I, me, and myself required you to use, "He's older than I", because "am" is _understood._ "He's older than I am." You wouldn't say, "He's older than me am."
    Some people tend to misuse the word "I" and never use the word "me" because they think it sounds kinda hillbilly or something.
    "This belongs to you and I." Grrr...😬
    "This belongs to you and me." 🙂
    This prevents confusion when comparing. Those song lyrics that say, "Does he love you more than me?" What is literally being asked is, "Does he love you more than he loves me?" The intended question is more to the effect of, "Does he love you more than I [do]?" "Do" is understood.
    "I like ice cream more than her", means, "I like ice cream more than I like her", which may be true but might not communicate what is intended. "I like ice cream more than she [does]." "Does" is understood.

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 2 года назад

      Both versions ("He's older than me" and "He's older than I") are correct because "than" can serve either as preposition or as conjunction.If it's a preposition "me" is correct and if it's a conjunction "I" is correct (because I is the subject of understood verb).

    • @GizmoFromPizmo
      @GizmoFromPizmo 2 года назад

      @@semplicementeanita6563 - I don't think so. "He's older than me am" is the long form of the shorthand "He's older than me." Nobody would ever say, "He's older than me am." I cannot think of a context where "me" would be appropriate in that sentence.
      "Does he love you more than me", would be appropriate if you were asking whether he loved you or he loved me more. It would not be appropriate if you were asking, "Does he love you more than I love you?" In that kind of sentence you could use either me or I depending on what you were asking.
      It's when you start getting into when you need to use the word, "myself" that I start to go off the rails. 😄

    • @semplicementeanita6563
      @semplicementeanita6563 2 года назад

      @@GizmoFromPizmo Though BOTH versions are grammatically correct, most natives would say "He's older than me". Trust me 😉

    • @GizmoFromPizmo
      @GizmoFromPizmo 2 года назад

      @@semplicementeanita6563 - I know mostly native English speakers and they are no grammarians, believe me. It's common to hear them say things like:
      "I should have went to the store." Or "I've never ran that far before." One guy I heard recently say, "I think about all the people over the years - everything they've did to get us where we are today." "They've DID???" Yikes!
      Most natives never learned proper grammar and so I don't really consider them expert in the least. It's easy to blame the schools but I went to Catholic School like a bunch of others I know who can't get these things right.

    • @kijul468
      @kijul468 2 года назад

      @@GizmoFromPizmo But that's what happens. It's not that they haven't learnt proper grammar. Where I'm from the form 'am' has replaced 'are' but 'is' remains the same so I say 'I am, you am, he is, we am, they am'. It's natural that forms take over the use of other forms. For example, you can say 'I drank it yesterday' and 'I drunk it yesterday'. It comes from the fact that 'have' and 'has' don't even get used is sentences much such as 'have you done it yet?' becoming 'you done it yet?'.
      Look at Swedish. The present tense forms of all verbs for all persons are the same form, but look at Icelandic and they remain largely different forms. It's a natural part of language evolution.

  • @timschantz3233
    @timschantz3233 2 года назад

    I was taught comparatives, more vs -er depended on the origin of the word. Latin based used more/ most while Germanic used -er/est.

  • @georgetokarev9515
    @georgetokarev9515 2 года назад

    The rule "no verb after a preposition" is rock solid! Mr. Gideon"s example "he went on to look for a job" only confirms it. The thing is that in English there are only two verb forms -V1 (present indefinite) and V2 (past indefinite). The infinitive, Ving and V3 forms are not verbs.

  • @lennylenoir
    @lennylenoir 2 года назад

    In example 2, "keep" is valid since it can be replaced with "continue"

  • @anniehasting1133
    @anniehasting1133 2 года назад +1

    As a native English speaker and language teacher, those “will” examples make no sense to me. Never heard anything like that, never would say them. Maybe it’s a British thing.
    True story on the second point.
    Cringe but true about using whom. I use whom the “correct” way (i.e. I use it), but true, most don’t. When I’m trying to project “approachable” with a client, especially one who is less educated, I would be less likely to use whom.
    I’ve never heard someone say more big or more keen. More fun would be a said, though.. that’s an exception, because funner and funnest are not standard usage.
    When I write reports, I never use contractions. I’ve never seen a journal article with contractions; I think a manuscript with contractions would be rejected.
    For college essays, go for what your teacher wants, because it’s not worth arguing over a grade. Contractions are not the mountain you want to die on. It’s definitely fine to use them in emails or memos.

  • @ihavenoname6724
    @ihavenoname6724 2 года назад

    Thank you buddy, you clearly know what you're talking about, unlike many other youtubers who don't (I won't name names), and who reproduce rubbish grammar rules like #3.

    • @frankgradus9474
      @frankgradus9474 2 года назад

      That's true - LTTTV is a unique beast in the English teaching world, thanks to Gideon's charismatic and charming personality and his deadpan humour, but don't be so harsh on other youtubers. They try their best for sure - he only sets the standard. It's easier.

    • @ihavenoname6724
      @ihavenoname6724 2 года назад

      @@frankgradus9474 You're right---I agree.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад

      Thank you for your vote of confidence

  • @manjirabanerjee7169
    @manjirabanerjee7169 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Sir for this immensely helpful lesson.I'd rather you discussed the nuances of 'notwithstanding' once again.Much obliged.

  • @iamunce
    @iamunce 2 года назад +1

    Surely, you also teach your students that "go on" is a phrasal verb and so operates a bit differently from some others.

  • @bernatpanxeta
    @bernatpanxeta 2 года назад

    Thank you very much! After suffering (sic) a lot of "strange" english teachers; a) an spanish military officer with an horrible hispanic american english, b) a french-majorcan lady with the hardest french english accent I ever listened and c) a french woman with polish parents with a rare mix of polish-french-english accent, my best english teachers were the first, a majorcan lady which studied and got her good english level at a girls school in England and living and working there for many years. And the last one, an scottish woman (she got married with a majorcan doctor, both good friends of mine). Their mantra: Don't try to speak like a "native". Get your own accent. Your objective is to be understood, not to speak with a "perfect and false accent". You get english more comprehensive for non native speakers!

    • @gillianbergh7002
      @gillianbergh7002 2 года назад +1

      If I tried to copy someone's accent, I'd worry that they would think I was being patronising.

  • @MarioRodriguez-ow9rl
    @MarioRodriguez-ow9rl 2 года назад +3

    There's another inevitable use of "whom", when it comes after "to" in "to whom" such as "to whom it may concern" or "this is the person to whom..."
    I was explained that "whom" must be used when a object pronoun must be used. For instance, you would say "for hiM/theM" so "for whoM" or "to hiM/theM" so "to whoM"

  • @freddiemercury8700
    @freddiemercury8700 2 года назад

    Can one use double Contrast linkers in 2 clauses just like you did on this video starting with although and nevertheless in second clause.5:41 ?

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад

      I like it. it's like a game of ping-pong

  • @monicaconsigliereLavieenfleur
    @monicaconsigliereLavieenfleur 2 года назад

    Thanks very useful

  • @EdsonSilva-qr5gr
    @EdsonSilva-qr5gr 2 года назад

    Thank you for this content

  • @positiveandstrong
    @positiveandstrong 2 года назад

    You're a brilliant teacher!

  •  2 года назад

    “Go on” is a phrasal verb. It doesn’t follow the verb+ing grammar rule. There also rules that are specific for certain verbs, such as like, love, hate, start, stop. These verbs can be followed either by an infinitive or a verb+ing, and this will depend on the intended use.

  • @grantofat6438
    @grantofat6438 Год назад

    I think it can sometimes make a difference to not using contractions. If you want to be more firm, like giving an order. For instance: "do not do that" instead of "don't do that" is more firm. It emphasizes the "not" and you hear it more like "do NOT do that".

  • @jmelkis
    @jmelkis 2 года назад

    George Orwell made a lot of excellent observations in “Politics and the English Language.” He really was a master of English writing too.

  • @ajs11201
    @ajs11201 2 года назад +7

    I agree that contractions are perfectly fine in almost all writing. Oftentimes when I choose to write out both words, it is to emphasize or draw attention to the negative. "He can't eat that" versus "He cannot eat that"--in the first, I'd hear "can't" as "shouldn't" and in the second, I'd hear it as an imperative.

    • @xXJ4FARGAMERXx
      @xXJ4FARGAMERXx 2 года назад

      Yes exactly.
      "But I'm writing my essay" vs.
      "But I _am_ writing my essay"

    • @hmm7420
      @hmm7420 2 года назад +5

      Even more confusingly, the examples he gave, "Can't we do that again?" and "Can we not do that again?", very often are used to mean the opposite. Usually, when I say or write "Can't we do that again?", I mean "Can we do that again? Because I want to do that again." Usually, but not always, when I say or write, "Can we not do that again?", I mean, "I sincerely hope we don't do that again. I don't want to do that again." But it depends on context in writing and tone of voice in speaking.

    • @ajs11201
      @ajs11201 2 года назад

      @@hmm7420 Agreed. That's the nuance of writing out the contraction--to emphasize the negative aspect. Yours is an excellent example of that. Thanks.

  • @MyMy-tv7fd
    @MyMy-tv7fd 2 года назад

    I had a really good English teacher up to 'O' level (age 15), but he did one day have a spaz and tried to ban the use of the word 'got' on the grounds that there was 'always another way to phrase it'. We all sat baffled, as 'got' had worked fine for all of us every time up till then, then we collectively shrugged it off and he got a grip and things got/went back to normal.

  • @socialite1283
    @socialite1283 2 года назад

    "Who" introduces a question or a nominative subclause that describes or elaborates on the direct object of the sentence. "Whom" introduces an accusative, dative, or ablative, descriptive subclause.

  • @wildebeest773
    @wildebeest773 2 года назад +1

    I personally would avoid using the comparative or superitive of the word "perfect" because the word itself implies (to me at least) whatever you're talking about can't possibly get any better.

    • @LetThemTalkTV
      @LetThemTalkTV  2 года назад

      Yes, I made a note about that on the video.

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876
    @jensphiliphohmann1876 2 года назад

    04:20f: For example "How much is the fish" by German techno band Scooter. 😎

  • @timoloef
    @timoloef 2 года назад +6

    since "will" can mean "want to" in rare occasions, I find "If you will keep bothering me..." quite logical because for a non-native speaker like me it sounds like "If you intend to keep bothering me..."

  • @BFDT-4
    @BFDT-4 11 месяцев назад +1

    Exceptions are in the minority, that is, there are fewer exceptions than standard usages, no?
    Given I know the rule, and given that I know the exceptions, I ALWAYS find and teach the exceptions. And when a student brings up an exception and they are surely right, they get a cookie (so to speak).
    "English is crazy." I conclude. ;)