The Stormlight Archive is probably one of the best "advanced ancient civilization" stories out there, simply because the more you find out the more you realize the Silver Kingdoms actually weren't more impressive than the current age except for a very specific part of society. Also, I have to say the art on this video is really above and beyond. It's fitting for the subject matter, and I appreciate that all the characters look accurate to their canon or implied skin tones.
12:11 nitpick here: deadeyes did not exist before the Recreance. The Radiants did not know that the Recreance would turn their spren into deadeyes. We don't know precisely why oathbreaking "kills" the spren now, but it's assumed that Ba-Ado-Mishram had something to do with it.
Personally I think it is due to the way the bond was severed that kills the spren. The radiant breaking the oath may be more traumatizing than simply dying.
@@Colonel_Overkill But there have been those that broke their oaths before and their spren did not become deadeyes. So it's not that either. It's been heavily implied that the difference in consequence hinges on what happened to Ba-Ado-Mishram. Her imprisonment is the marker of change. We just don't know how exactly yet, even though the delineation is quite clear... It's also possible it had something to do with Honor's death. As the domain of oaths and the consequences of their abandonment was directly overseen by Honor. But with Honor weakening who knows what Ba-Ado-Mishram might have done. That part is still unknown. It would make sense that Honor's obsession with oaths might have deepened the severity of the bond or that it somehow compounded with Ba-Ado-Mishram's undisclosed meddlings, and thus resulted with spren becoming deadeyes, which never happened before.
@@Chimaeramentis I think the obvious implication is that Ba-Ado-Mishram was an unmade. She was corrupted by Odium, unmade and not made by him, so therefore she was something before. I think Gavilar called her a "powerful and Crucial spren." I guess that before she was an unmade, she was important to Roshars function and without her it broke.
@@killervoid6352 Makes sense to me, though I still find it chronologically uncertain, as it always seemed the Unmade were corrupted long before the Knights Radiant were established. And there were no deadeyes before the imprisoning of Ba-Ado-Mishram...
I have been told by my book club/Stormlight Archives/Brandon Sanderson friend that this video is currently unsafe for me where I am at in the series... I'll be back when I catch up! Love your content, friends!!!
I will watch all Stormlight Archives content you make. By the hour, like it's my job. Thank the cosmere, youtube recommended one of your videos. Subscribed!
One of the most evocative descriptions of the Heralds came from Zahel in the fourth book. They're what he calls "Type Two Invested" beings. They had already died and their souls departed after their first deaths; instead all that remained was a massive amount of Investiture that filled their bodies and thought that it was the original Herald. The Heralds we see in the books aren't the original men and women but raw magical power in a human shape that has been forced to endure over ten thousand years of life and have become more akin to spren than humans at this point.
@@stevenhedge2850 That part really hit me and it took a lot of blinking to accept that those people died and left behind a sort of simulacra of their consciousness... It's not even just the ship of Theseus concept, which is enough to hurt the human brain, as Zahel literally compared it to fossilization, which is markedly more extreme. It's possible that his belief of the original Vasher being dead is painted by his cynical outlook. We have no confirmation on that part, besides what Kelsier describes in the Secret History of Mistborn. It's implied there, from what I remember, that his soul did not leave, but that he stayed somewhere between having had enough Investiture to resist the pull of the Beyond. Though what happened to Kelsier might be different than what happened to Zahel/Vasher or the Heralds. He explains the type of entity, but the way it is created does not necessarily have to be the same in all cases. The Lightborn for one have no memories of their previous lives, just how they died, but it is stated they keep their souls. Since Splinters are made of Investiture aka the spiritual power of divinity, then it's possible their souls are simply absorbed by that power and that is why Zahel says the original Vasher died. So it heavily hinges on how much of the person remains in the form of their personality and memories, but also on whether you're willing to believe it's the same "ship" or not.
Perhaps it's not the most viewed on the channel, but I'm sure that it'll grow on people in due time, once the series is able to pass the pre-history of Roshar. I personally can't wait for the next vidoe on the Stormlight Archive, it's one of my favorite fantasy settings!
My conclusion from the Stormlight Archive is that Immortality leads to madness and that Roshar needed more historians like Jasnah troughout its history.
Blended in Rythm of war saying to Adolin after the trial: "I do not know if making rew Radiants is a good idea - but I must admit that your ancestors were not traitors. Something did frigthen them enormously, to cause humans and spen to destroy their bonds. And if the spen did not know they would die... then pieces of this puzzle are still missing. The questions are more complicated, and more dangerous than we ever knew". In other words, spen and radiants decided to end their bonds without knowing the consequences, that in the end were massive. The known answer, because the humans are not from Roshar, seems weak, and this paragraph from rythm of war seems to confirm that something else or someone caused the recreance.
The reason deadeyes exist is the sealing of Ba Ado Mishram. She just seems as important to the Spren ecosystem as the Stormfather is to the Weather and locking her up had some devastating side effects
Let me summarize theain characters for the mext episode. Kaladin suffers a lot, learns the power of friendship , has ptsd , he suffers again ....like a lot, learns the power of friendship again .Dalinar is treaping balls with visions , has ptsd , learns to write at age 60 ,learns the power IN THE HEART OF MAN . Shallan is not what she seems , has ptsd , stockholm syndrom , .Szeth is bold ( also has ptsd )Mors is the worst ( ptsd again).
I'm a big fan of Storminlight myself, but I really want to see this channel finish WoT and start King killer. I mean since he did GoT and he's never going to finish just like Rothfuss.
I know this has nothing to do with the video and I apologise for this. But do you guys have any intentions of making any more alternate history videos. I really enjoyed the Mongol series and would love to see more of something like that in the future ❤.
@@WizardsandWarriors oh thats sad to hear. Either way the content on this channel is immaculate and hopefuly there'll be enough views to perhaps revive the series.
I don't know why I clicked this. Never finished way of kings. But strangely think back fondly to reading it.. not sure why that is tbh, because at the time I didn't like it that much. Outside of having a very imaginative world. The spren I really disliked though
*HONOR IS NOT DEAD AS LONG AS HE LIVES IN THE HEARTS OF MEN*
“Honour is dead, but i’ll see what i can do..” Kaladin stormblessed
@@Sopromaterial4ik there are so many quotes from this series which give me goosebumps.
WE CHOSE.
The Stormlight Archive is probably one of the best "advanced ancient civilization" stories out there, simply because the more you find out the more you realize the Silver Kingdoms actually weren't more impressive than the current age except for a very specific part of society.
Also, I have to say the art on this video is really above and beyond. It's fitting for the subject matter, and I appreciate that all the characters look accurate to their canon or implied skin tones.
Nope, Warhammer is better.
@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338yeah one of the best high fantasy series since Tolkien is “lame”
@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 "One of the best" did not exclude Warhammer from being good or even better.
@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 Ok Warhammer is also good, are you happy?
Would like to see HBO adapt a show for the Storm light Archive
12:11 nitpick here: deadeyes did not exist before the Recreance. The Radiants did not know that the Recreance would turn their spren into deadeyes. We don't know precisely why oathbreaking "kills" the spren now, but it's assumed that Ba-Ado-Mishram had something to do with it.
Personally I think it is due to the way the bond was severed that kills the spren. The radiant breaking the oath may be more traumatizing than simply dying.
@@Colonel_Overkill But there have been those that broke their oaths before and their spren did not become deadeyes. So it's not that either. It's been heavily implied that the difference in consequence hinges on what happened to Ba-Ado-Mishram. Her imprisonment is the marker of change. We just don't know how exactly yet, even though the delineation is quite clear...
It's also possible it had something to do with Honor's death. As the domain of oaths and the consequences of their abandonment was directly overseen by Honor. But with Honor weakening who knows what Ba-Ado-Mishram might have done. That part is still unknown. It would make sense that Honor's obsession with oaths might have deepened the severity of the bond or that it somehow compounded with Ba-Ado-Mishram's undisclosed meddlings, and thus resulted with spren becoming deadeyes, which never happened before.
yes, I found a WoB clarifying that 2 days after stating this. So much for my theory lol
@@Chimaeramentis I think the obvious implication is that Ba-Ado-Mishram was an unmade. She was corrupted by Odium, unmade and not made by him, so therefore she was something before. I think Gavilar called her a "powerful and Crucial spren." I guess that before she was an unmade, she was important to Roshars function and without her it broke.
@@killervoid6352 Makes sense to me, though I still find it chronologically uncertain, as it always seemed the Unmade were corrupted long before the Knights Radiant were established. And there were no deadeyes before the imprisoning of Ba-Ado-Mishram...
I have been told by my book club/Stormlight Archives/Brandon Sanderson friend that this video is currently unsafe for me where I am at in the series... I'll be back when I catch up!
Love your content, friends!!!
Lol "unsafe"
I will watch all Stormlight Archives content you make. By the hour, like it's my job.
Thank the cosmere, youtube recommended one of your videos.
Subscribed!
Thanks!
@@WizardsandWarriors no, no, thank you for the content!
The Pact broke before Taln!!!
One of the most evocative descriptions of the Heralds came from Zahel in the fourth book. They're what he calls "Type Two Invested" beings. They had already died and their souls departed after their first deaths; instead all that remained was a massive amount of Investiture that filled their bodies and thought that it was the original Herald. The Heralds we see in the books aren't the original men and women but raw magical power in a human shape that has been forced to endure over ten thousand years of life and have become more akin to spren than humans at this point.
honestly, it does mean its kind of a shape of thesues and it makes you look at characters like zahel, lightsong and the Lord of Scars differently.
@@stevenhedge2850 *Ship of Theseus
@@Lukas-ht9xm phone hates spelling some times
@@stevenhedge2850 That part really hit me and it took a lot of blinking to accept that those people died and left behind a sort of simulacra of their consciousness...
It's not even just the ship of Theseus concept, which is enough to hurt the human brain, as Zahel literally compared it to fossilization, which is markedly more extreme. It's possible that his belief of the original Vasher being dead is painted by his cynical outlook. We have no confirmation on that part, besides what Kelsier describes in the Secret History of Mistborn. It's implied there, from what I remember, that his soul did not leave, but that he stayed somewhere between having had enough Investiture to resist the pull of the Beyond. Though what happened to Kelsier might be different than what happened to Zahel/Vasher or the Heralds. He explains the type of entity, but the way it is created does not necessarily have to be the same in all cases. The Lightborn for one have no memories of their previous lives, just how they died, but it is stated they keep their souls. Since Splinters are made of Investiture aka the spiritual power of divinity, then it's possible their souls are simply absorbed by that power and that is why Zahel says the original Vasher died. So it heavily hinges on how much of the person remains in the form of their personality and memories, but also on whether you're willing to believe it's the same "ship" or not.
Can't wait for the recap of the novels, Your videos made me interested and invested in the cosmere series in the first place.
Im finishing words of radiance and this masterpiece comes, how nice
Literally same, the timing is insane
Perhaps it's not the most viewed on the channel, but I'm sure that it'll grow on people in due time, once the series is able to pass the pre-history of Roshar. I personally can't wait for the next vidoe on the Stormlight Archive, it's one of my favorite fantasy settings!
I cannot wait for the actual battles. I would love to see Kings and Generals-style tactical coverage of the big battles like the Tower.
@@tmandis8616 their stormlight stuff is the reason I'm here and subscribed. There's a lot of us, everywhere.
Great recap and visual aids. Well done. I even picked up on a few details i missed while reading!
Thanks!
Enjoying this series!
Since fans compare the Cosmere to anime; animation sounds like the best option for onscreen adaption.
Sando literally said he would want Stormlight Archive to be an animated show. So yes ^^
Great job. please keep making Stormlight stuff!
thanks and continue to do this series
My conclusion from the Stormlight Archive is that Immortality leads to madness and that Roshar needed more historians like Jasnah troughout its history.
Blended in Rythm of war saying to Adolin after the trial: "I do not know if making rew Radiants is a good idea - but I must admit that your ancestors were not traitors. Something did frigthen them enormously, to cause humans and spen to destroy their bonds. And if the spen did not know they would die... then pieces of this puzzle are still missing. The questions are more complicated, and more dangerous than we ever knew". In other words, spen and radiants decided to end their bonds without knowing the consequences, that in the end were massive. The known answer, because the humans are not from Roshar, seems weak, and this paragraph from rythm of war seems to confirm that something else or someone caused the recreance.
The reason deadeyes exist is the sealing of Ba Ado Mishram. She just seems as important to the Spren ecosystem as the Stormfather is to the Weather and locking her up had some devastating side effects
Thanks For this!! Love your content! ❤❤❤❤❤
Great video! Sorry to nitpick but Radiants didn’t have the ability to transform their spren into Shardblades until the 3rd Ideal, not the 2nd
I would love to see a similar series like this covering the history of the world of Elantris, and the fantastical magics of that planet
Will do!
Love Stormlight Archive
I was wandering if you plan on continuing the series on First law and wheel of time? I enjoyed them a lot
Amazing
Could you make videos about the other series of the Cosmere, such as Elantris, Warbreaker, and White Sand?
Let me summarize theain characters for the mext episode. Kaladin suffers a lot, learns the power of friendship , has ptsd , he suffers again ....like a lot, learns the power of friendship again .Dalinar is treaping balls with visions , has ptsd , learns to write at age 60 ,learns the power IN THE HEART OF MAN . Shallan is not what she seems , has ptsd , stockholm syndrom ,
.Szeth is bold ( also has ptsd )Mors is the worst ( ptsd again).
It is Sanderson, everyone has PTSD. Jokes aside, I think he manages to handle various mental ailments really well.
@@WizardsandWarriors Too well sometimes . Just give your characters a brake man.
Yes more stormlight
The Oathpact broke before Taln did
Awesome
amazing!
Thanks!
You should do lore for the Red Rising series
shardblades are gained by swearing the 3rd ideal, not 2nd.
I'm a big fan of Storminlight myself, but I really want to see this channel finish WoT and start King killer. I mean since he did GoT and he's never going to finish just like Rothfuss.
Just to clarify the shard of honor was never splintered.
I know this has nothing to do with the video and I apologise for this. But do you guys have any intentions of making any more alternate history videos. I really enjoyed the Mongol series and would love to see more of something like that in the future ❤.
Not at the moment. The last one didn't garner enough interest to continue making them
@@WizardsandWarriorsPlease make more videos about First Law and other works of Joe Abercrombie.
@@WizardsandWarriors oh thats sad to hear. Either way the content on this channel is immaculate and hopefuly there'll be enough views to perhaps revive the series.
Next do the Leyend of Zelda War
👍👍
The formation of modern Russia?
NEXT STORMLIGHT VIDEO......HURRY!!!
We don’t know what caused the recrience. The truth of human’s origin is not the full reason.
Stormfather is not honor’s successor lol. He’s honor’s spren
RAD
I don't know why I clicked this. Never finished way of kings. But strangely think back fondly to reading it.. not sure why that is tbh, because at the time I didn't like it that much. Outside of having a very imaginative world. The spren I really disliked though
the art you use is off
We like it. Our illustrator tried to merge the style of the book covers of the series and comics, and I think it works.
More Warhammer, stormlight is lame.
Give it a chance, it is really really good
You're lame
Your idol Henry Cavil says otherwise
I love both. Its not lame. This is fantastic!
@@WizardsandWarriorsplease ignore this guy. And whatever your paying the artist, double it