Train Simulator 2016 - Route Learning: Great Yarmouth to Norwich via Acle (Class 170)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this next route learning video we revisit the Wherry Lines add on from Armstrong Powerhouse. We take an Abellio Greater Anglia Class 170 on a morning service from Great Yarmouth to Norwich, calling at Acle and Lingwood along the way.
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The river is the Yare and passes the Colman's mustard factory entering Norwich. As you approached Norwich the river was on your right and the navigable cut through Thorpe was on your right, with yachts moored alongside.
Thanks for the info :)
Wherry Lines is a fantastic route and its well worth the money!
+Class380Fan Agreed! :)
I'll 3rd that :)
The river on the left is the Yare. It does split on the way to Norwich from a place called Postwick, (Pozik), You can see the line of busses at the P&R. I can recommend an excellent pub for good food and real ale, The Rushcutters, on Norwich road. BTW Just as the route comes round the left hand bend at Damgate Wood, approaching Acle, you see a double decker bus pass from right to left. In real life this would be pretty difficult as the bridge has a height restriction on it of 8ft 9in. (Ouch). I live in Acle...
It's a great route and accurate with the two Class 37's with the Mk 3 stock. I can hear them as I sit in my study as they are on the 09.00, 11.00 , 13.00 and 15.00 ex Acle to GY. The supermarket at GY shown in one of the external shots is an Asda.
+Ray Griffiths Thanks for all of the information there Ray. This is a route I've not yet travelled in real life but certainly plan to do so in the future.
I certainly can't imagine an 8ft 9 double decker bus! I'm not sure how road vehicles are set up in Train Simulator. I'm glad that you like this route, I definitely think that quality wise this is one of the best.
Ray Griffiths I think you'll find its Mk 2f coaching stock. 🚂😃
Don't worry I feel them lag patches when I travel to Norwich all the time on the train myself :P
nice. I travelled this route multiple times between 2004-2005.
Long flat straight stretches of line, overgrown carriage sidings, single track sections and more level crossings than you can shake a stick at - all very familiar to me as I'm constructing the Skegness to Grantham line for Train Simulator. Another excellently presented video, as always.
+Norson How is your route building project going? I'm quite interested in Lincolnshire railways as I'm originally from Lincoln itself. And many thanks, glad you liked this video.
Slow and steady at the moment! You can follow the progress on the UKTS forums. Just search for "Poacher Line" :)
you nearly finished it now, or have finished it?
Awesome video PTG, thanks :)
+David Searle Thank you :)
Thoroughly enjoyed your video - well done. How you find the time to create these videos with all your other commitments amazes me - Keep up the good work!
+chris501 Thank you Chris, I really appreciate your comment! It's a delicate balancing act. In some ways I wish I had more time to work on these videos, but over the summer I certainly will! :)
Loving the detail in this route! I take the actual journey a few times a year, seeing the Liverpool Street trains at Norwich in the correct livery 'n formations was brilliant :D
That body of water that runs by the tracks going into norwich which you mentioned and asked about is the river yare which runs between Norwich and great yarmouth
Great video! I really love the scenery and variety of individual routes here. I can't fault your driving technique this time! 😉 Flawless and expertly driven! In answer to your question: the two small tributaries are part of the River Great Yare, whilst the larger body of water to the left is the Whitlingham Great Broad. Regarding the handling characteristics of the Class 170 on all versions within TS they will hold at about 58mph in Notch 6, provided you haven't exceeded 60-65mph. This includes the E-G 170s as well. The reason for this is in the nature of the transmission. The class 170s are Diesel Hydraulic Multiple Units and are fitted with a two-speed hydraulic transmission. From a stand to about 65mph the train is driven by a torque converter. This multiples the torque output from the engine and accelerates the train to a speed where the engine can drive the train directly without requiring a multiplication of torque. On the older BR units the changeover to the fluid coupling occurs at about 42mph on the Class 158s and 159s and about 46mph on 150s and 156s. When the changeover occurs a distinct change of engine sound can be heard. On the 170s when the train reaches 65mph there is a marked burst of acceleration up to about 75-80mph and this is the train changing from the torque converter to the fluid coupling. The fluid coupling takes the drive directly from the engine and transmits it to the wheels. The train cannot be driven purely by the fluid coupling as the engine would be unable to provide sufficient torque to get the train moving and at low speeds the acceleration would be horrendously slow. Having these two items in the transmission is why the train will hold at different speeds in the same power notch depending on whether it is utilising the torque converter or fluid coupling. For example in the Class 159 whilst on the torque converter notch 5 will hold the train at 40.4mph whilst on the fluid coupling the train will accelerate above 90mph. Similarly with the Class 170 notch 3 will hold the train at 39.3mph under the torque convertor but 77.3mph under the fluid coupling or in Notch 6 either at ~58mph or 98.7mph again depending on which part of the transmission is being used. If you try it with any Diesel Hydraulic MU you will find the same thing. Hope this helps and that I've explained it well. Look forward to your next video, Ben. If you have any other queries about the drive systems of various trains, please feel free to ask me. Regards, Ben 😊
+Ben Reid nice
+Ben Reid Thanks for the extremely detailed information there. I feel I've got a better understanding of how the transmission works on modern DMUs. Where do you learn all of this stuff? I feel like you put my railway knowledge to shame! Thanks for commenting positively on my driving technique, I do aim to be as realistic as possible! :)
Glad I managed to explain it well! 😊
+Ben Reid that you did :)
I just had a holiday in the broads and the driver let me sit in the cab of the 37 and we went to this pub in acle which was very nice and it had a thatched roof
The waterway that you see near Norwich is the River Yare, part of the Norfolk Broads....
great video. I saw the stop marker at Lingwood. it was right next to the bench you stoped at on lamp post.
+thomas charles Noticed that as well!
+thomas charles I totally missed that after driving this route three times! Maybe I should get my eyes tested? Lol :p
+PTGRail Haha I had mine tested today I should have booked you a appointment XD
you are a good train driver well done
good video the river is called the river yare.
Good video!!!
Great video love it
Thank you :)
nice video of your train simulator.
+Mike Troina Thanks :)
Great video mate :) by the way the river near Norwich is the river Yare
For the U.S. route, I remember you saying you wanted to do the Norfolk Southern route? You should do that one, there's even some street-running involved in some of the included scenarios.
+darkstarselereth I've been looking at that route again recently and do think it would be good to make a video on it. The problem is that once out of West Brownsville, there's not that much to do as there's so few speed changes. I need to find things to talk about as I drive! XD
Nice vid, interesting route.
+Crusher “CrusherUK2013” UK2013 Thank you :)
The 37s stop just past the banner repeater to allow the mk2's to fit in platform at Acle
Another great video ptg
+reece duggan Thanks Reece :)
I wonder if they will add the Breckland line from Norwich to Ely/Cambridge (Technically Trowse (Lower) Junction to Ely North Junction) as I live along that route
I bet it'd be great to get a HST and floor it down that straight section just for fun!
You could get quite some speed up along there, I'm sure! :p
As usual, a great video. It is a pity this train doesn't have a view to the left too. When starting from Great Yarmouth, you would have a good view of Breydon Water. At Norwich, you would see Carrow Road football ground. I also commend you for pronouncing Acle correctly.
+Alan G. Brown Thanks! Glad that you enjoyed this video. Thanks for the extra information too. How do others tend to pronounce Acle?
Ackel (as in 'makes one's hackles rise' if spoken by a cockney)
I say ay-khl ('eɪ.kəl) (I'm from Norwich btw). Apparently that's the official pronunciation, I've never heard anyone pronounce it like you.
Nice train
+XxcementxX Agreed :)
OMG!!!! I got on 170270 yesterday!
SM - Real Life I got on it on a stowmarket to ipswich service
Good video
+Toby Allan Thanks :)
excclent video!! :) Quick question, do you adjust the FOV for each video or do you keep it the same all the time?
+Thunderhead7087 Thanks! I don't ever change the FOV, but if I feel the camera is too far back for a particular train, I zoom in one or two notches on the mouse wheel to get the camera into the right place.
Hope you do well on your exams. :)
+Pixelated Thanks! I'm getting very nervous about them lol :)
PTGRail Don't be, Just be confident and you will pass easy. Keep your head high.
Something unusual when you leave Great Yarmouth. You cross over one track to the left, then cross right back over to the track you just left. Shouldn't the signalman have you routed straight through for such a movement?
+70humdinger I noticed that too, not sure what that was about! Lol XD
Are you planning to do the Bittern line from Norwich to Sheringham?
Hello and Greetings from U.S.A! I love your videos and I have a few route recomendations for you. There is a route called New Haven to Boston on the Steam Workshop which is free and I think you should do it. You should slso do the Marias Pass route too.
+AmericanRailfan Hi there! Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy these videos! I will check that route out, but the last I knew it wasn't anywhere near finished? I certainly do plan to cover the Marias Pass route in the future :)
Once the Sheringham lines have joined, it's a river on the right hand side which is part of The Broads which are basically just a bunch of rivers interconnecting in and around Norfolk and Suffolk which were formed by the flooding of peat workings. I enjoyed this one, just like the last Wherry Lines route - both lovely scenery i love so mush. Do you know if you can get to Sheringham and Cromer or not?
+Josh Fowler Thanks for the info, and I'm glad you enjoyed this video. Unfortunately the branches to Sheringham and Cromer haven't been included in this add on. I wish they had!
At the beginning of the video is that point accurate? It seems an odd placement for one since nothing could use it (unless the platform/station has been modified)
TheIvalen that point would have been used when steam locomotives stopped at the station
Hi, just wondering why there is a different speed limit for loco hauled trains; is it something to do with their weight?
+Ramsey Lafosse I honestly don't know, but I guess it may have something to do with that.
+PTGRail ok thanks, your videos are great keep them up! Hopefully you'll do the new LGV line from Avignon to Marseille soon
I wish the 170 had proper notched brake and throttle, would make it more realistic
I agree!
PTGRail it does on the goblin and North London line class 172
Pls can u do a birmingham moor street service to Worcester frigate street?
+PTGrail great vid as usual ;) track IR would be amazing for train sim, I really want to get one?
+Profarmer267 Not very useful for staring straight-ahead all the time. Very useful if you like looking around at the scenery all the time, like me :)
+profarmer267 watch qwerty afros video on train simulator he used track ir in some of the videos
hello nice video.One question.. Do you know if this route requires another add-on in order to be played?? In Armstrong site says that you must have many other routes as a prerequisite so as to play it.But steam doesnt notice anything..Do you know whats going on??? Thank you.Happy new Year
If you purchase this route on Steam, it won't require any other add ons to work. Only if you purchase it on the AP website will that be the case. Hope this helps! :)
PTGRail ok thank you
Really enjoy your videos, is there any chance you can share your in sim graphic settings?
+DarranKent Thank you. I've got all of the sliders on maximum, running in 1920x1080 resolution, and 2x2 antialiasing. Using an antialiasing setting this high really transforms the look of the game, and especially the trains within the game.
The "canal" is a cut of the river Yare.
Thanks for the info :)
This route, which is a video, just set up AP?
+Дмитрий Тиняков What do you mean? :)
It is whitlingham broad
Will you be getting a new microphone soon?
+HowToCameron I've got no plans to any time soon. This mic isn't particularly old - I only bought it last May, specifically for this channel.
+PTGRail good vid how time flies... happy birthday its a bit late though good luck for your exams!👍
+PTGRail could you do a Reading to Paddington stopping service?
+Dominic Walker i think he will do it in the next few weeks
how do I stop save file memory dump for routes
+Aaron Van Dam Unfortunately there's no easy answer to that. It's a bug within Train Simulator itself.
Great video is there any international rail sim coming up soon
+TheKizzywhizzy I released a German video recently, and I've got an American video currently in the planning stage. I'm also looking to cover the new French route once I've been able to get hold of it. So yes, there's definitely more international videos coming :)
Is there a soundpack for the class 170
+zideplayz Not yet no
That how they sound in real life i've gone on it lot of times
+zideplayz No there isn't. Not sure if there will be any time soon. This is one of the better sounding trains in TS.
Do you enjoy university and would you reccommend going?
+Camerons Gaming I do, and I would if that's what you want to do! I've gone 10 years later than most other people, being 29 now while most of my classmates are 18-19. I'm really enjoying it though :)
where have u been yay ur back
+jenny oliver I had a few weeks off, but now I'm back and trying to make more videos than ever :)
get in
Shoulda just said that the Class 170 accelerates like an American train, which is basically the sad truth.
I do love the class 170. I was dissapointed when they stopped running them on the Midland mainline
they're re running them now!
Nice video please can you do something in a 444
+Alexander Phillips I have done in the past. We really need more routes suitable for the Class 444 to run on!
Greater anglia
Do More videos
+Toby Allan I plan to lol
+PTGRail ok but what do you think what map is going to be next
+Toby Allan gwmainline
Tractors better on that line
+nathan senior I like tractors, but I'm not a big fan of driving them in Train Simulator.
oh fair enough