Well God, that was depressing. I'll still visit his ship to pay my respects. On a side note, I wish the cobra ingame were a cobra VIII or IX because boy Jameson's cobra truly looks older and retro. I honestly wouldn't mind them including that ship model as an older retro ship. Still wish our combat missions felt as immersive as that sounded, at least change the lights on launch from the station, maybe have some radio chatter in combat. I usually just play random radio chatter over my game when in combat to make it feel real. Ace Combat does this, why can't Elite? Make the messages on long just radio broadcasts. That would add so much depth it'd be crazy!
"Still wish our combat missions felt as immersive as that sounded" They you might want to try Frontier: First Encounters. There are some modernized versions around. That had a similar(but not the same) Thargoid mission.
This may not be correct but I read somewhere that in the 3100's just after the reckless commanders destroyed a thargoid fleet (including a mothership) they were interdicted by a fleet of 30 motherships. I'm convinced that those thargoid sites are actually either dead, injured, or repairing motherships.
Many of us think that's the case and that one day, we hope, they will be confirmed to either still be active or we'll see some kind of hiveship in the game. We know it exists, Jameson just confirmed it for us.
Well in this case it/he did start a war and everything - but you're right, most of the logs we hear aren't "I found paradise!" are they? Thanks for the sub, glad you're enjoying the content!
The happy stories don't leave logs in remote parts of space. All the dead generation ships have depressing logs, but I'll bet you a whole bunch got where they were going and just got dismantled, so you don't hear the happy mundane stories of life in a crowded generation ship, although it would be cool if there was one as a museum piece somewhere with happy stuff.
I thought the voice acting was alright, its the story that's cliche. I'm not going to argue with 1984 BBC Micro canon though. I'm in the middle of engineering a Corvette so I might head out to pay my respects and pick up some data while I'm there. Thanks for sharing OP.
Thanks, it was fun as a diversion to my normal, boring ass tutorial content ;-) Have some more of that planned soon, one I'm really looking forward to - 10 places you must visit in Elite...
Seems crazy you cant type in the coordinance in your ship to go to this spot....this is something they should implement, it's painful trying to fly to these locations....and yes im new to the game.
We've basically begged for that for years - it really is absurd isn't it? Apparently that tech was banned in the next 1200 years since we have that today and all....
Not undermining what you said, but: Go to the galaxy map, fly to the system. 300lY from the bubble, not too far out. Go to moon 1b. Detailed surface scan it and look for the non-geological signal. Then you have him straight in your crosshairs.
I'll take that as a huge compliment as Ant is clearly the leader in the Elite creator community. Nothing wrong with personal preference, I absolutely enjoy his content and damn does he have a voice of gold that I'll just never match.
Mabye he has golden voice but you shine in places he might not :) Seriously you are good channel i am happy ive found you, then i have doble the content for elite video's to watch from obsidian ant and you :D
Again thanks very much, I consider it a huge compliment to even be compared to Ant. He's also such a super great guy - I hope you can join our weekly live stream together every Friday at 1 EST (with Yamiks, Paroxsym, Plater, etc as well)
Yep, many of us have speculated that the "bases" are in fact the hive ships and agree - it would be amazing to see them actually take off from the surface.
I love all the lore and little details in elite dangerous but the whole Jameson thing about inra not telling him the mycroid virus (idk if I'm spelling any of this right) would actually target the thargoids themselves and not just their tech to me is so dumb. I mean is he really going to sympathize with the alien race who was trying to take human civilization out and act so shocked about inra and their true intentions? C'mon lol. It's a shame that they killed the commander and tried to cover it all up so shame in inra for that but they should have just told the truth from the begining about the virus and found a pilot who was willing to actually fight back! Destroying all thargoid tech would actually probably just piss them off even more lol.
While the video is excellent as usual and I normally love this kind of stuff, I don’t think Frontier did such a good job with these audio logs this time. Cmdr Jameson comes across as a totally naive rookie, not a seasoned veteran or a „one in a generation“-type superhero.
I do have one question for you, if I may. Is there a way of plotting exact locations on planetary surfaces, e.g. crash sites, prior to arrival, or do you have no choice but to rely on the grid co-ordinates displayed on your HUD?
Nope, that technology was clearly outlawed given we have it in 2018 - but if the location has a data beacon (or a ship data cache) once you scan that it will show up in your nav computer. So you only have to do it manually once.
@@Exigeous What does this mean? I flew to this planet, scanned it with a Detailed Surface Scanner, targeted the crash site and flew down to it? What are grid coordinates?
CMDR Exigeous what about that one system? COL 70 SECTOR FY-N C21-3. ? Wasn't it deciphered from the thargoid star chart and thargoid probe that pointed to that system?
CMDR Exigeous not confirmed, but I believe frontier did make a mention of this players findings at merope. But here's the link from what I had read www.reddit.com/r/Canonn/comments/4yn18w/col_70_sector_fyn_c213/
Sorry man wasnt trying to be a jerk. I just wanted to post the EXACT co-ordinates. I went to -54.3000 x -50.3000 and had to do some running around to find it. There were several "outcrops" that kept popping up on the scanner and making things a little confusing.
Oh no worries, I was just being cheeky myself. As for the exact coordinates you didn't see the big area from the air as you approached? Not sure how you'd miss it, when looking for something like this make sure you're several KM high so you can see at distance.
It was really dark when I flew down there. It seemed to be kind of hazy too. There were 3 red circles I could see on scanner but couldnt see much of anything on the surface. I had parked my SRV and was using the camera to look around when i noticed the faint blinking red light from the com stations. Pro tip for anyone else looking: go down there when that side of the planet is in the sunlight :D
now gathering materials from his crash site will not be the same again. There should be a "Pay Respect" option. Not the F key, god forbid. But you buy and item and place it there for his honor.
im trying to play ED again.jeez i whish there was more stuff like that to find.anyway how people fidnd those things? you get some readings from your scanner or somethings?
there's a looot of audioLogs already found in the game, and a bunch more waiting for someone to find them. you can find all that stuff and locations online ;)
Yeah, as Bazzuk says there really are a lot of these kind of logs/lore in Elite. As for finding them it's rather difficult - you drop from supercruise into glide at a very shallow angle, like 5%. Then you glide for as long a distance as you can, looking for a single pixel on your scanner to denote a POI below you. Then dive down to it and see what it is. Insane, right??
No. Mankind is violent and is usually the aggressor. To Paraphrase Agent Smith in the Matrix, Humanity is like a virus, we spread, suck up resources, and continue to expand, at usually at the expense of other species.
Yes it is Alliance's fault try to genocide Thargoids. They ignite the fire and lead John Jameson to death. I avoid to fight with Thargoids as they are merely avengers.
CMDR Exigeous It was found by me 😀 you can read the wiki as suggested, frontier forums (stickied INRA base discoveries thread in Aliens subforum page 1), also on reddit, laveradio and such. No need to change anything just be aware wiki can be a bit unreliable lore wise so it is good to check forums also for future lore videos.
@@Exigeous I'm 5'11 190lb's brown hair and rocking a dad bod so yeah. But! I would greatly appreciate some new 2020 content about farming manufactured components for engineering and maybe some new fresh ways to make some credits. mining and playing taxi is boringg! Maybe trading or something combatish would be cool like even 20-30 mil a hour. I can't keep myself from conflict zones and bounty hunting even though it pays close to nothing. I've killed some players with some decent bounties on them but its extremely rare.. Thanks for the content you're #1!
@@bobbyvandyke6324 Well are you in luck - have a look at a few recent videos, one is Gathering ANY Material (all that is current and by far the best methods) and I just days ago posted a Wing Mining video that nets you up to 240M/hr with a wing of 4 (and say 200M solo). You should also have a look at EDTutorials.com - our new website - as everything is indexed there and really easy to find.
Rest easy Commander, your mission is over now.
@*Hérétic now *that* would be a hell of a plot twist...
As a father, this was right in my feels. Especially that last part.
Well God, that was depressing. I'll still visit his ship to pay my respects.
On a side note, I wish the cobra ingame were a cobra VIII or IX because boy Jameson's cobra truly looks older and retro. I honestly wouldn't mind them including that ship model as an older retro ship.
Still wish our combat missions felt as immersive as that sounded, at least change the lights on launch from the station, maybe have some radio chatter in combat. I usually just play random radio chatter over my game when in combat to make it feel real. Ace Combat does this, why can't Elite? Make the messages on long just radio broadcasts. That would add so much depth it'd be crazy!
Agreed, the audio and voice acting in Elite is great, it's unfortunate that it's so hidden from everyone.
"Still wish our combat missions felt as immersive as that sounded" They you might want to try Frontier: First Encounters. There are some modernized versions around. That had a similar(but not the same) Thargoid mission.
This may not be correct but I read somewhere that in the 3100's just after the reckless commanders destroyed a thargoid fleet (including a mothership) they were interdicted by a fleet of 30 motherships. I'm convinced that those thargoid sites are actually either dead, injured, or repairing motherships.
Many of us think that's the case and that one day, we hope, they will be confirmed to either still be active or we'll see some kind of hiveship in the game. We know it exists, Jameson just confirmed it for us.
I gotta stop cutting onions when watching this stuff :'(
Found in 3304? If he lived during the 3100s he's been out there for a very long time.. glad we found him
Well given we didn't have games for those 200 years it sorta makes sense ;-)
why does some ED stories need to be so depressing?
also gonna hit the sub button, you do a good job and keep me interested in many things around ED.
Well in this case it/he did start a war and everything - but you're right, most of the logs we hear aren't "I found paradise!" are they? Thanks for the sub, glad you're enjoying the content!
The happy stories don't leave logs in remote parts of space. All the dead generation ships have depressing logs, but I'll bet you a whole bunch got where they were going and just got dismantled, so you don't hear the happy mundane stories of life in a crowded generation ship, although it would be cool if there was one as a museum piece somewhere with happy stuff.
Can we just give this man a round of applause for taking down an entire hive with a mark lll.
Paying my respects to CMDR Jameson ✊
I thought the voice acting was alright, its the story that's cliche. I'm not going to argue with 1984 BBC Micro canon though.
I'm in the middle of engineering a Corvette so I might head out to pay my respects and pick up some data while I'm there.
Thanks for sharing OP.
Just been there to pay my respects to the original - Commander Jameson.
Wing wave as I flew past
o7
I feel like this is oddly familiar to the audio logs in the sci-fi horror game SOMA.
Fantastic game, easily in my top 10 for storyline, tried to get my mates into it but they all get bored within 30 mins :(
The feels...
Love this kind of stuff man, keep it up!
Thanks, it was fun as a diversion to my normal, boring ass tutorial content ;-) Have some more of that planned soon, one I'm really looking forward to - 10 places you must visit in Elite...
Looking forward to it!
And the people who orchestrated his end and used him to commit genocide never faced justice for what they did.
All of us can avenge him. CMDR strikes back.
The original Novella is so good. I have to reread it again.
Seems crazy you cant type in the coordinance in your ship to go to this spot....this is something they should implement, it's painful trying to fly to these locations....and yes im new to the game.
We've basically begged for that for years - it really is absurd isn't it? Apparently that tech was banned in the next 1200 years since we have that today and all....
Not undermining what you said, but: Go to the galaxy map, fly to the system. 300lY from the bubble, not too far out.
Go to moon 1b. Detailed surface scan it and look for the non-geological signal. Then you have him straight in your crosshairs.
in a matter of days we can see what you saw in those days
Thank you for the story Commander jameson o7
If there is more lore can we get more plz?
Oh there is a shit ton and yes, that was a fun one to make so I'll definitely put out more. If you don't follow Obsidian Ant I highly recommend it.
i do follow him. But i like your content more nothing personal against him, i just like how you do things
I'll take that as a huge compliment as Ant is clearly the leader in the Elite creator community. Nothing wrong with personal preference, I absolutely enjoy his content and damn does he have a voice of gold that I'll just never match.
Mabye he has golden voice but you shine in places he might not :) Seriously you are good channel i am happy ive found you, then i have doble the content for elite video's to watch from obsidian ant and you :D
Again thanks very much, I consider it a huge compliment to even be compared to Ant. He's also such a super great guy - I hope you can join our weekly live stream together every Friday at 1 EST (with Yamiks, Paroxsym, Plater, etc as well)
Anyone else when they heard "hive ship" think of a giant Thargoid high charity like structure? Cause that would actually be fucking amazing to see!
Yep, many of us have speculated that the "bases" are in fact the hive ships and agree - it would be amazing to see them actually take off from the surface.
I love all the lore and little details in elite dangerous but the whole Jameson thing about inra not telling him the mycroid virus (idk if I'm spelling any of this right) would actually target the thargoids themselves and not just their tech to me is so dumb. I mean is he really going to sympathize with the alien race who was trying to take human civilization out and act so shocked about inra and their true intentions? C'mon lol. It's a shame that they killed the commander and tried to cover it all up so shame in inra for that but they should have just told the truth from the begining about the virus and found a pilot who was willing to actually fight back! Destroying all thargoid tech would actually probably just piss them off even more lol.
While the video is excellent as usual and I normally love this kind of stuff, I don’t think Frontier did such a good job with these audio logs this time. Cmdr Jameson comes across as a totally naive rookie, not a seasoned veteran or a „one in a generation“-type superhero.
You know I totally have to agree on that one - his "WOAH!" just doesn't ring true to me at all. The story is good but that acting here not so much.
Legends says his cobra still powered on
I do have one question for you, if I may. Is there a way of plotting exact locations on planetary surfaces, e.g. crash sites, prior to arrival, or do you have no choice but to rely on the grid co-ordinates displayed on your HUD?
Nope, that technology was clearly outlawed given we have it in 2018 - but if the location has a data beacon (or a ship data cache) once you scan that it will show up in your nav computer. So you only have to do it manually once.
@@Exigeous What does this mean? I flew to this planet, scanned it with a Detailed Surface Scanner, targeted the crash site and flew down to it? What are grid coordinates?
I realize this is a really old video, but Exigeous mentions Evil Madcap? Is that right? The pilot who first discovered Jameson's Crash Site?
So does that mean they know were the “Hive” is?
Very probably someone does, yes - it's speculated that the "bases" that have been discovered are some kind of ship, we just don't know yet.
CMDR Exigeous what about that one system?
COL 70 SECTOR FY-N C21-3. ?
Wasn't it deciphered from the thargoid star chart and thargoid probe that pointed to that system?
I haven't seen that confirmed, but if you have a source I'd love to see it!
CMDR Exigeous not confirmed, but I believe frontier did make a mention of this players findings at merope.
But here's the link from what I had read
www.reddit.com/r/Canonn/comments/4yn18w/col_70_sector_fyn_c213/
Commander John Jameson promoted to Captain. Posthumously.
Stop making me cut onions damnit
I found it at -54.3693 x -50.3631
You mean just like everyone else that read that in the description? ;-)
Sorry man wasnt trying to be a jerk. I just wanted to post the EXACT co-ordinates. I went to -54.3000 x -50.3000 and had to do some running around to find it. There were several "outcrops" that kept popping up on the scanner and making things a little confusing.
Oh and thanks for another great vid. I had given up on playing this game before i found your videos :D
Oh no worries, I was just being cheeky myself. As for the exact coordinates you didn't see the big area from the air as you approached? Not sure how you'd miss it, when looking for something like this make sure you're several KM high so you can see at distance.
It was really dark when I flew down there. It seemed to be kind of hazy too. There were 3 red circles I could see on scanner but couldnt see much of anything on the surface. I had parked my SRV and was using the camera to look around when i noticed the faint blinking red light from the com stations.
Pro tip for anyone else looking: go down there when that side of the planet is in the sunlight :D
he sounds like Nathan Filion with an altered voice.
Will a thargoid scout always show up upon arrival here?
I visited the place for the first time, sad story.
now gathering materials from his crash site will not be the same again. There should be a "Pay Respect" option. Not the F key, god forbid. But you buy and item and place it there for his honor.
*hops in ship and punches in destination.....*
im trying to play ED again.jeez i whish there was more stuff like that to find.anyway how people fidnd those things? you get some readings from your scanner or somethings?
there's a looot of audioLogs already found in the game, and a bunch more waiting for someone to find them. you can find all that stuff and locations online ;)
Yeah, as Bazzuk says there really are a lot of these kind of logs/lore in Elite. As for finding them it's rather difficult - you drop from supercruise into glide at a very shallow angle, like 5%. Then you glide for as long a distance as you can, looking for a single pixel on your scanner to denote a POI below you. Then dive down to it and see what it is. Insane, right??
o7 commander. mission accomplished
Right in the feels
Been trying for 3 hours can't get to this fucking place
That's some damn good voice acting.
will make this site my next stop. Hope I don't need any special permit to enter...… Thanks X great video
Nope, just need a ship to jump there in that's all (well and an SRV)
How can I listen to the audio files in my ship? I have scanned everything in the area and looked at my ships onboard play-list.. nothing?
We shouldn't have trusted Salvation...
Yer startin to damage my calm!
super sad. Now where can I get some of that virus...
CMDR Jameson wasn’t English? Who knew! RIP 🥲
And this is why the Thargoids are at war with us, we started it! They just want payback, which is understandable.
WU. It sounds more like humans *escalated* the conflict first.
No. Mankind is violent and is usually the aggressor. To Paraphrase Agent Smith in the Matrix, Humanity is like a virus, we spread, suck up resources, and continue to expand, at usually at the expense of other species.
@@jn69uk ok Shakespeare no need to make such high iq quotes
Unknown Bandit650 it’s the truth, humans are a parasite. Some are smart and useful, some think covid 19 is made up and the earth is flat
Yes it is Alliance's fault try to genocide Thargoids. They ignite the fire and lead John Jameson to death. I avoid to fight with Thargoids as they are merely avengers.
And this is why I'm an imperial
Wondering what is your source on who discovered the wreck?
Whe Wiki, pretty sure it's in the description.
Allright, maybe check again ;)
If I'm wrong let me know and I'll update the description.
CMDR Exigeous It was found by me 😀 you can read the wiki as suggested, frontier forums (stickied INRA base discoveries thread in Aliens subforum page 1), also on reddit, laveradio and such. No need to change anything just be aware wiki can be a bit unreliable lore wise so it is good to check forums also for future lore videos.
@@robbie2044 Commander
Did you really found it? If so how? :)
And whats your commander name?
Fly safe o7
-CPT Favia-
Damn shame 😞
We need a time machine
I'm not crying... you're crying
It makes me happy instead
The voice acting was extremely weird. He had like 4 different voices and changed accents randomly.. weirdd!
Yeah, definitely not one of the best but that is all the same actor.
@@Exigeous I love you.
Oh if you were an attractive, tall, thin blonde I'd be very happy ;-)
@@Exigeous I'm 5'11 190lb's brown hair and rocking a dad bod so yeah. But! I would greatly appreciate some new 2020 content about farming manufactured components for engineering and maybe some new fresh ways to make some credits. mining and playing taxi is boringg! Maybe trading or something combatish would be cool like even 20-30 mil a hour. I can't keep myself from conflict zones and bounty hunting even though it pays close to nothing. I've killed some players with some decent bounties on them but its extremely rare.. Thanks for the content you're #1!
@@bobbyvandyke6324 Well are you in luck - have a look at a few recent videos, one is Gathering ANY Material (all that is current and by far the best methods) and I just days ago posted a Wing Mining video that nets you up to 240M/hr with a wing of 4 (and say 200M solo). You should also have a look at EDTutorials.com - our new website - as everything is indexed there and really easy to find.
I only went there to farm the data points :p