I roll 13# and my teammates can’t understand why I average 210, 207 and 215 in 3 different houses. Especially since they don’t average that with a 15# ball. 😂
I didn't know that the duo was available in 10lbs. younger bowlers can start bowling with a more high performance ball earlier and may get better faster than back when i was bowling juniors.
I think it’s nice that they made it in 10lbs for the reason of charity. It also helps those who can’t throw 15 lbs to be able to throw a ball like the pros do. I think they should do this more often.
I've got a six pound Mix that I used in a tournament this past summer. I can average right around 150 with it. No thumb. But.. you have to play down the lane from the outside if you want to carry. Throwing that much across the lane makes the ball lose all it's energy by the time you are in the pocket. Straighter is greater. I was throwing some twelve pounders at our demo day last week because I have been contemplating a move to lighter ( I currently throw 15 with thumb in) so I can experiment with no thumb. Twelve was just a bit much. Should have tried out the lightweight Duo but didn't look that hard at them to see what weights were there. I've popped a 210 with a ten pound house ball but would really need a better cover. I challenge you to try this again with much better line for the ten pound ball.
(60FPS) You were right about the 100 rpm difference between balls. 15lbs, 514 RPM (avg 1 rotation in 7 frames). 10lbs, 600 RPM (avg 1 rotation in 6 frames). Your last shot was 27.8 MPH (22 frames foul line to arrows).
Been getting into bowling for last 2 years. Started with a 10lb and have worked my way up to 14. I’ve always use the physics equation F = m * a. I know what I can throw the 10 the fastest, but if I can constant control the 14, force will be way higher to do destruction
Every video that you make is awesome. I have been watching you and your brother for a little bit now. And it has made me a better bowler raising my average from 190s to my highest of 223.
It was very interesting to see how the 10lb just bounced around the pins. Really enjoyed the line, "I don't know what I did but I did it". That's my every "good" throw. lol
Love to see the comparison on lanes that you’d find ideal for the ball. It would be interesting if there were more optimal conditions in which the 10# might actually have an advantage. Doubtful, but still! Haha
Hey Mikey I thought it was interesting seeing the difference in carry between 10 and 15 pounds. Back in may I got sent a free duo by storm but I still haven’t gotten it drilled.
Hey, Mikey! Another fun video! I'd love to win the 10lb Duo for my wife so we can bowl more together. She struggles to throw anything heavier than 10lbs due to car accidents, but also struggles to find house balls with finger holes appropriately sized at that weight. I think this would be perfect for her! Cheers!
Definitely some entertaining content Mikey. The thing I got from this one was that the ball motion was nearly the same with the weight differences. From reading the comments so far, it appears lower weight balls are used more for comfort level for the bowler than trying to get higher scores. I like my Duo. Like ither balls, it is good until it isn't. 😊
Beautiful ball, the duo have that perfect mix of colors that you can see down the lane. I think is an underrated ball. Love to have it in my collection! Great and entertaining video! Good to see the same ball in different pounds to let us see the difference in reaction.
Nice video brother. As a porter I would give you a 7.2 out of 10. This video does show the difference in the weight as well as the energy stored up in the balls.
I average 182 with my 12lb surge and a 257 high...have a new 14lb revenant with a 164 avg and 209 high, but I've only had it for 2 weeks...the difference is astonishing
I use a 12lb Beast for initial warmups and when I am working on drills. It is a great ball to warm up with and get loose. It is also a great ball for working on drills and release and things. I actually threw a crazy game this year during a practice session .. 8/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/9 .. I printed and frame the score and put on my wall. I don't think I could do it again. All of my other regular balls are 14lb .. which seems about perfect for me as I am a bit older (61).
I just started to get into bowling this year. Currently throwing a 10lb twist and starting to realize why now that my form and release are getting better I am struggling to get Xs. Thinking of moving up to 12lb what do you advise?
It’s awesome that they are giving back to big brothers and big sisters with that ball. You should have had little man push it down a ramp to see if he could strike with the 10 ponder lol.
just hurt me knee, using 14 lb was thinking of 12-13 now am thinking of 10 lb. lol, NOT, next contest use a leftie bowler, little younger and in good condition, hahahahaha.
All ball weights in regulation will work best for somebody, since there is no one size fits all weight. 14 lbs works best for men, 12 lbs for women, less than 12 lbs for children and seniors, more than 14 lbs for advanced bowlers, 16 lbs (heaviest in regulation) for the league's high average champion, himself. A 13 lbs ball may work better than ever for you as your bowling average will constantly rise when you manipulate the ball better than you ever will with heavier balls, but that will likely not be enough to make you the league's high average champion. 13 lbs or smaller may be your favorite size if it helps to go lighter for the purpose of solving medical conditions, but 16 lbs will likely still be your high average champ's favorite size to use.
Interesting comparison. I have always been curious of what happens at the 13# ball weight, as that seems to be where many balls show a change in core shape compared to the 14-16# versions.
I usually use the house 12 pounder because it has holes big enough for my fingers,,never found a 10 pound ball i could play with that holes sizes i could use,,so maybe i'll get lucky and win my own 10 pounder ...and how people bowl 4 or 5 games with 15 pounders is crazy,id have a sprained everything and sore as heck.
Why would a bowling company make a 10 pound ball. Unless the pearls have eliminated urethane or plastic, kids are not expected to be using top line bowling balls.
As a mechanic front desk and Porter at a bowling alley, I give you a 10 for effort for running down the gutter cap and then for stepping on the lane idk about that one but it's not league. So you're all good. As for laying on the lane. You could have tripped the sensor and the sweep could have came down on. You would have been all bad. Just be careful next time my guy.
Question, now I'm not the strongest dude, so I usually bowl as round 11 to 12 lbs. Am I still able to get good powerful hooks with them? And recommend any company?
Good video. I recently dropped from 16 to 14 since i was feeling some pain in my elbow with the heavier ball. I haven't noticed a difference in performance and even shot my best game with the lighrr ball. But there is a limit to how much carry you get with the ligher balls.
I'll take the ball off your hands haha. I think 10 is a good training aid, but yeah not all that practical unless you're hurt or unable to bowl with anything heavier.
Dude, you are lucky the sweep did not decapitate you (if they had the newer sensors thinking a ball hit the pins when you threw the pin while your head was under the masking unit).
I have thrown a different weight balls but for me I like a 14 the best. A 15 might get a hair more action but it’s easier to put the revs on the 14. I haven’t bowled a 300 yet but I got a 299 on a 14.
I went from 15lb to 12lb after the PBA - LBC tournament in Wauwatosa this summer and have nothing but more success. Honestly best bowling move I've made...
I hurt my elbow and had to drop to a 10lb ball and had a couple games in the low 200's with it. As my elbow has been getting better I have moved up to 12lb and have several games in the mid 200's. I am tempted to just stay at 12 lbs when my elbow finally heals just because I bought 7 balls at 12lb so I could build a versatile arsenal.
@@ObjectiveEthics yeah! I'm pretty sure I've left a few 5-7's and 5-10's that I "probably" wouldn't've left with a heavier ball but I very rarely leave something like that. I used my wife's Eternity when I decided to switch (I bowl no thumb / 2 handed) and my first game out of the shoot with her 12lb ball (even though fingers didn't quite fit) was 244 I was like: YEAH this'll work! Lol... what I lost in kinetic energy from the weight of the ball I made up for in ball speed, rev rate and accuracy
@@rikvonmn I agree 👍 the thing that I noticed when I used my 10lb ball was that I left a lot of 5 pins but rarely any corner pins. When I was throwing 14lb I left a lot of 10 pins and with my 12lb I am prone to leave 7 pins. I don't know enough about bowling (only been bowling for just over 1 year) to know if the ball weight is the reason for those leaves but I do know that I prefer picking up 5 pin or 7 pin spares compared to 10 pin spares. I'm 100% with 5 pins, over 95% with 7 pins and about 65% - 70% on 10 pins lol. Had a 200 in league last week with only 1 strike. I picked up all of my spares, 9 of them were 7 pins.
The Roto Grip Duo doesn't not come in a 10 LB version . The lightest Duo available is a 12 LB Ball . So don't know why Michael Tang would even put out this video when it isn't possible to get a 10 lb version of the DUO .
Based off ten pin toolkit your 10lb straight throw was 32.3 mph off the hand. Your 10lb strike ball was 19.8 off the hand with 600 rpm even.
Love the video. My wife throws a 12 lb. ball and does not understand why she has poor carry on pocket hits. Now she knows why. Thanks
I roll 13# and my teammates can’t understand why I average 210, 207 and 215 in 3 different houses. Especially since they don’t average that with a 15# ball. 😂
I didn't know that the duo was available in 10lbs. younger bowlers can start bowling with a more high performance ball earlier and may get better faster than back when i was bowling juniors.
I think it’s nice that they made it in 10lbs for the reason of charity. It also helps those who can’t throw 15 lbs to be able to throw a ball like the pros do. I think they should do this more often.
It’s crazy to see a 10 pound ball that isn’t just a house ball.
I've got a six pound Mix that I used in a tournament this past summer. I can average right around 150 with it. No thumb. But.. you have to play down the lane from the outside if you want to carry. Throwing that much across the lane makes the ball lose all it's energy by the time you are in the pocket. Straighter is greater. I was throwing some twelve pounders at our demo day last week because I have been contemplating a move to lighter ( I currently throw 15 with thumb in) so I can experiment with no thumb. Twelve was just a bit much. Should have tried out the lightweight Duo but didn't look that hard at them to see what weights were there. I've popped a 210 with a ten pound house ball but would really need a better cover. I challenge you to try this again with much better line for the ten pound ball.
Great video. You could really see the difference in ball reaction. The ball deflection is really noticeable.
(60FPS) You were right about the 100 rpm difference between balls. 15lbs, 514 RPM (avg 1 rotation in 7 frames). 10lbs, 600 RPM (avg 1 rotation in 6 frames). Your last shot was 27.8 MPH (22 frames foul line to arrows).
Im trying to get back into bowling after being out for about 5 years. This sounds like a great ball to start with and i'd love to win it.
I think it is a pretty good ball. I picked one up for my wife on a Cyber Monday deal for a good price. I don't think you could go wrong with a DUO
I'd love to have this ball for my girlfriend!
Force = mass x acceleration.
If you throw a 15 lb bowling ball 15 mph. You would need to throw a 10 lb ball 22 5 mph.
Been getting into bowling for last 2 years. Started with a 10lb and have worked my way up to 14. I’ve always use the physics equation F = m * a. I know what I can throw the 10 the fastest, but if I can constant control the 14, force will be way higher to do destruction
I’m desperate to give this 10# ball to my wife! (She’s half Asian!)
You are doing it all wrong you need to throw it like a baseball that is the best way to strike with that 10 lb ball😂. Now send me my 10-pound ball😊
Now bowl your brother in a match with you both throwing a 12 lb. Duo. You will strike a lot more.
2,000 views and 200 likes. Let's go! I need a new ball.
Every video that you make is awesome. I have been watching you and your brother for a little bit now. And it has made me a better bowler raising my average from 190s to my highest of 223.
It was very interesting to see how the 10lb just bounced around the pins. Really enjoyed the line, "I don't know what I did but I did it". That's my every "good" throw. lol
Love to see the comparison on lanes that you’d find ideal for the ball. It would be interesting if there were more optimal conditions in which the 10# might actually have an advantage. Doubtful, but still! Haha
My wife would show that 10lb ball who the boss - like she does in our marriage 😂
#happywifehappylife
Hey Mikey I thought it was interesting seeing the difference in carry between 10 and 15 pounds. Back in may I got sent a free duo by storm but I still haven’t gotten it drilled.
Enjoyed the video. Good luck to you and Chris this upcoming season
Wicked fun video! Nice to see how the static weight helps carry the ball through the pins and that speed doesn't necessarily help.
Thanks for the video, I think the 10 pound will be thrown harder as it has less weight so it seems logic to me that 10 pounds should be throw slower
Fun to watch and your commentary was pretty funny too. You’re right, I learned nothing😂
Hey, Mikey! Another fun video! I'd love to win the 10lb Duo for my wife so we can bowl more together. She struggles to throw anything heavier than 10lbs due to car accidents, but also struggles to find house balls with finger holes appropriately sized at that weight. I think this would be perfect for her!
Cheers!
Definitely some entertaining content Mikey. The thing I got from this one was that the ball motion was nearly the same with the weight differences. From reading the comments so far, it appears lower weight balls are used more for comfort level for the bowler than trying to get higher scores. I like my Duo. Like ither balls, it is good until it isn't. 😊
I'm going to send this to my wife as evidence why she needs a heavier ball.
great video, funny how the guy bowling on 32 just up and left with the 3 pins still up
Beautiful ball, the duo have that perfect mix of colors that you can see down the lane. I think is an underrated ball. Love to have it in my collection!
Great and entertaining video!
Good to see the same ball in different pounds to let us see the difference in reaction.
Obvious difference there. Looks like fun, Mikey!
Nice video brother. As a porter I would give you a 7.2 out of 10. This video does show the difference in the weight as well as the energy stored up in the balls.
I average 182 with my 12lb surge and a 257 high...have a new 14lb revenant with a 164 avg and 209 high, but I've only had it for 2 weeks...the difference is astonishing
I use a 12lb Beast for initial warmups and when I am working on drills. It is a great ball to warm up with and get loose. It is also a great ball for working on drills and release and things. I actually threw a crazy game this year during a practice session .. 8/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/ 9/9 .. I printed and frame the score and put on my wall. I don't think I could do it again. All of my other regular balls are 14lb .. which seems about perfect for me as I am a bit older (61).
I just started to get into bowling this year. Currently throwing a 10lb twist and starting to realize why now that my form and release are getting better I am struggling to get Xs. Thinking of moving up to 12lb what do you advise?
It’s awesome that they are giving back to big brothers and big sisters with that ball. You should have had little man push it down a ramp to see if he could strike with the 10 ponder lol.
Nice video, definitely got me thinking I should increase my standard ball weight.
Great video! I model my game of you so I love watching keep it up man!
You could crush a strike with a 6lb ball! I like these weight difference reviews keep it up!!
This was a fun video to watch. The difference is definitely noticeable.
10 on the effort lol
The best job I ever had was as a porter at a bowling center
10 lb ball go brr
I always wondered if certain balls were the same as certain weights like the fate and the night road at 13lbs
10 lb Duo? My league teammate/coworker would love that for her first ball!
My wife throws 10lb balls. I just bought this exact ball for her on a Cyber Monday deal .. she is loving it.
Nice balls, I like the green and black combo.
Both look cool going down the lane.
It's pretty
just hurt me knee, using 14 lb was thinking of 12-13 now am thinking of 10 lb. lol, NOT, next contest use a leftie bowler, little younger and in good condition, hahahahaha.
Mike your only 27 years old you CAN'T retire you only made $27k for bowling, Darren over $201,395.00
Light bowling balls are so much fun to throw. Great video.
All ball weights in regulation will work best for somebody, since there is no one size fits all weight. 14 lbs works best for men, 12 lbs for women, less than 12 lbs for children and seniors, more than 14 lbs for advanced bowlers, 16 lbs (heaviest in regulation) for the league's high average champion, himself. A 13 lbs ball may work better than ever for you as your bowling average will constantly rise when you manipulate the ball better than you ever will with heavier balls, but that will likely not be enough to make you the league's high average champion. 13 lbs or smaller may be your favorite size if it helps to go lighter for the purpose of solving medical conditions, but 16 lbs will likely still be your high average champ's favorite size to use.
Try picking up some splits and wash outs with the 10 pound ball, might even pick up the lily.
Hey Mike .. I just clicked the like button 1500 times !! .. I liked your video that much! 🙂.. so, that gives you 1500 likes from me 🙂
Interesting comparison. I have always been curious of what happens at the 13# ball weight, as that seems to be where many balls show a change in core shape compared to the 14-16# versions.
The bulk of balls weight is the core. The core has to change at 13 and under in order to reach those lighter weights.
I usually use the house 12 pounder because it has holes big enough for my fingers,,never found a 10 pound ball i could play with that holes sizes i could use,,so maybe i'll get lucky and win my own 10 pounder ...and how people bowl 4 or 5 games with 15 pounders is crazy,id have a sprained everything and sore as heck.
Why would a bowling company make a 10 pound ball. Unless the pearls have eliminated urethane or plastic, kids are not expected to be using top line bowling balls.
As a mechanic front desk and Porter at a bowling alley, I give you a 10 for effort for running down the gutter cap and then for stepping on the lane idk about that one but it's not league. So you're all good. As for laying on the lane. You could have tripped the sensor and the sweep could have came down on. You would have been all bad. Just be careful next time my guy.
Question, now I'm not the strongest dude, so I usually bowl as round 11 to 12 lbs. Am I still able to get good powerful hooks with them? And recommend any company?
Another great video! Hope you get the likes so some lucky person can get that ball! That would be amazing!
Great vid. So interesting to see the difference between the weights
Good video. I recently dropped from 16 to 14 since i was feeling some pain in my elbow with the heavier ball. I haven't noticed a difference in performance and even shot my best game with the lighrr ball. But there is a limit to how much carry you get with the ligher balls.
Cool. Would be a nice gift for the young one
Another fun video to watch. Thanks for doing them and keep them coming. Very entertaining
Nice one. Never know duo comes in 10-11lb. can you giveaway to me the 10lb ball please :D
Way too much deflection with the 10#. Let's see a 13# comparison next!
That's the crap my GF leaves throwing a 12# after hitting pockets
I'll take the ball off your hands haha. I think 10 is a good training aid, but yeah not all that practical unless you're hurt or unable to bowl with anything heavier.
When is Holiday not packed with people? Must have been after hours!!
Call your brother Darren I think he will KNOW what your doing?
15 lb is logical but sometimes using a 14 lb helps a lot on tricky lanes and definitely not a 10 lb.
Dude, you are lucky the sweep did not decapitate you (if they had the newer sensors thinking a ball hit the pins when you threw the pin while your head was under the masking unit).
I love my 15 lb Duo
The 10 pound for me was to light for me and I ended up going up to 12 pound cause 10 started bounce around
That 10lb deflection is brutal lol
That 10lb ball at the end was looking like Osku going for the 10 pin.
Throws a heater with the 10lb and still leaves the 5 pin...lol
I love holiday lanes, I've only bowled on the GSX side though lol
I have thrown a different weight balls but for me I like a 14 the best. A 15 might get a hair more action but it’s easier to put the revs on the 14. I haven’t bowled a 300 yet but I got a 299 on a 14.
10lb ball looked better off your hand and on the lane, just hit like a marshmallow.
Is the info useful? Debatable (I think it is). Is it fun? Hell yeah. Keep it up!
Looks like dropping all the way down to a 10lb ball is not in my near future.
My daughter is going to be moving up to 10lbs. Might be a good ball to get for her.
Based off what I'm seeing try a 12 pound bet it will be on point!
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What do you mean you dont strike much with the 15 lol. You strike a ton!
Too bad you don't have a helicopter release for the 10 lber.
lol at the end lookin like Osku
I went from 15lb to 12lb after the PBA - LBC tournament in Wauwatosa this summer and have nothing but more success. Honestly best bowling move I've made...
I hurt my elbow and had to drop to a 10lb ball and had a couple games in the low 200's with it. As my elbow has been getting better I have moved up to 12lb and have several games in the mid 200's. I am tempted to just stay at 12 lbs when my elbow finally heals just because I bought 7 balls at 12lb so I could build a versatile arsenal.
@@ObjectiveEthics yeah! I'm pretty sure I've left a few 5-7's and 5-10's that I "probably" wouldn't've left with a heavier ball but I very rarely leave something like that. I used my wife's Eternity when I decided to switch (I bowl no thumb / 2 handed) and my first game out of the shoot with her 12lb ball (even though fingers didn't quite fit) was 244 I was like: YEAH this'll work! Lol... what I lost in kinetic energy from the weight of the ball I made up for in ball speed, rev rate and accuracy
@@rikvonmn I agree 👍 the thing that I noticed when I used my 10lb ball was that I left a lot of 5 pins but rarely any corner pins. When I was throwing 14lb I left a lot of 10 pins and with my 12lb I am prone to leave 7 pins. I don't know enough about bowling (only been bowling for just over 1 year) to know if the ball weight is the reason for those leaves but I do know that I prefer picking up 5 pin or 7 pin spares compared to 10 pin spares. I'm 100% with 5 pins, over 95% with 7 pins and about 65% - 70% on 10 pins lol. Had a 200 in league last week with only 1 strike. I picked up all of my spares, 9 of them were 7 pins.
you could see the carry on the 10 lb was just not there on light hits
My timing would be all f-ked up after that!
Sometimes I feel so old I could throw a 10 lb ball! Haha
I think you should throw a 13 and get the best of both world lol
Where do you get a 10/11 lbs ball. Love the videos.
Love the videos keep it up ❤
My wife throws 10 lbs… it’d be perfect lol
The Roto Grip Duo doesn't not come in a 10 LB version . The lightest Duo available is a 12 LB Ball . So don't know why Michael Tang would even put out this video when it isn't possible to get a 10 lb version of the DUO .
It does in fact come in 10 pounds
At 7:00 that looks like my hit with a 15 pounder lol.
First strike shocked me with the 10 pounder.
That's pretty cool actually with alot of humor lmao
Might be a good idea to throw 10lbs ball for spares 😂
Osku missiles
Wayyyy too light… it needs to explose the rack!