The LIMITS of Geometry Dash...
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- What are the Limits of Geometry Dash? What are the most objects a Geometry Dash level can have and how long can one be? Is Timeless by Cyrillic really the longest level in GD or is there an even more impossible levels? Furthermore, levels like Ocular Miracle have made some Geometry Dash bugs that are really weird and in this video we will try to answer all of these questions. How far can we go before GD 2.1 breaks?
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[Chapters]
00:00 Intro
00:39 Exhibit I
04:27 Exhibit II
10:13 Exhibit III
Been a while since a proper video huh? Well, since the video I've been working on for almost a year is taking up so long, I thought I'd work on it in the background while making other less quality videos but good enough for my standards. This is a sort of remake from my video from 2020 called the "The Limits of Geometry Dash" where I explained similar concepts but I had barely any idea what I was talking about so I decided to make it again but way better. I hope you still like it since I still put my all into this and tried to make it as good as I could :)
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#GeometryDash #GD #GDLimits 
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This has got to be one of the most polished gd vids I've ever seen, phenomenal work all around!
Thanks so much! Means a lot coming from you :)
you know your video is a masterpiece when klaux comments on it
@@EREnder GOAT SIMULATOR SONG??
the two GOATS of geometry dash video editing are here
@@EREnder it is very polished but these limits have already been broken
The level CCLocalLevels has like 2 million objects and another level uploaded by the same person has like 3 million iirc (yes, you can't open them, but they still do have a ton of of objects)
Also you didn't mention nessus which uses the x pos limit to it's advantage to make the level over 10^10000 years long
Also also in the GD farlands section you didn't mention the level called "11 spikes jump why" which makes a 11 spike jump possible using x post weirdness (its only possible on 144fps, but I also noticed that speedhacking the level actually sometimes has the opposite effect (speeding up instead of slowing down) and sometimes makes the icon stutter forward or just freeze
Awesome video, really well produced :) For 3:52, I'd like to note that the only objects that take more data are triggers. All normal objects (except for few very specific ones) take the same amount of data in-game, as they are all part of the same class. (This seems to be changed in 2.2 though, as in the recent Lite versions all triggers have been (finally) separated to their own classes)
Thanks a lot man :D Glad you enjoyed it :) And that's interesting but makes sense as triggers generally are more complex than any other object. And that's cool with the 2.2 thing, I'd imagine that'd be pretty helpful
RobTop used polymorphism? No way...
@@adaf3003 yea ikr, when alk showed it to me i could barely believe my eyes
This video is amazing, The things you talk about are easy to follow despite seeming very complicated. I also appreciate how much your editing has evolved as it keeps the viewer more engaged than if it were just gameplay footage in the background. Good Job ender!!! (PS: good luck on that other video ;) )
Thanks so much man :DDDD im glad the topics were understandable at least somewhat
Bro a year and only 1 reply? Lemme fix that
@@imdobbergd8 days and 2 comments?
@@lilsardine5 21 minutes and 3 comments?
Lemme add
I felt the need to fix some mistakes in this
From exhibit 1, the level kick limit has nothing related to the grid space, and the actual limit is pretty well known (at least in the gd bug finders community) which is 4000 blocks every section of the game. A section of a level is kinda like the chunks in minecraft, except its 100 x units long (3.33 grid spaces) and continues indefinitely in the y axis. So if you put more than 4k objects in a single section the level will refuse to open, this is pretty much an intentional check from robtop
Secondly, also from exhibit 1, only windows and android versions of the game are 32 bit. Macos and ios versions are both 64 bit, which allows you to open levels far bigger than what windows allows, I even created a level that requires around 200gb memory space to open abusing some stuff about the sections I talked earlier (it puts an object in a position specifically crafted to use as much memory as possible)
Also some more extra info about these sections: there are 2^31 of them and everything from collisions to rendering is done using these sections. So if an object is after the section limit (2^31 * 100 x pos) this object is theoretically non collidable and non rendering
hm thats interesting i didnt know that. Is this tho 100% confirmed however? Cause a lot of these just seem kinda like theories that make sense but there is no definitive evidence. Also its pretty cool that ios and macos is 64bit
@@EREnder oh wait i just realized my comments are getting removed because it has a image
so after checking the binary it seems its a bit more complicated
the check is:
if there are less than 30 sections its 2000
if the percentage of empty sections is more than 90% its 4000
otherwise 8000 objects per section is the maximum limit
its from the function called GJBaseGameLayer::shouldExitHackedLevel
@@Alk1m123 hm thats interesting ye, didnt know that while researching, thx :)
@@EREnder yes I can confirm this, she is a very skilled modder for GD
also yes I forgot to take into account mac and ios (sorry apple fans)
Already by the first 30 seconds I’m so impressed, this is so well edited
thx so much man :DDD
Ayee kingsammlot i love ur vids
hi samme
Welcome back Ender! Incredible video with insane research. We missed you :33
Thanks man :))))) I also miss uploading
Wow Ender, you knocked it out of the park with this one! This editing is definitely the most high quality I’ve seen on any Geometry Dash video, and the topics were super interesting! You should be proud of this, I loved it!
Thx so much man :D I'm really glad you liked it
Thx so much man :D I’m really glad you liked it
You can actually make a very long level in gd on mobile here's how:
1. Put down an object that is locked to player x
2. Press the exit and playtest button in the editor at the same time
3. If the cube is moving while your in the screen where you can save and exit then you have to save and exit, if else repeat
4. Go back into the level and it'll be longer. Repeat the previous steps as long as you want
Oh that's interesting ye
I made 3 month long level mobile
Robto0 fixed it at 2.2
Not gonna lie best video of yours so far. The editing this must have taken is significantly efforful, and the outcome turned out awesome!
thank you man! and also i really appreciate you becoming a member i really did not expect that haha
Imagine if 2.2 was available for only 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 sec
Imagine
Imagine
Aged Mike milk
Imagine!
**Ahem**
a few corrections
8:14 900 + 10 = 910 PRECISELY in float variables
0.1 + 0.2 =/= 0.3 though, and that's where it loses precision
9:52 the longest level in gd is not timeless, it's nessus, at ~10^10577 seconds
11:43 scroll speed bug can not only speed you up but also slow you down
also the most obj heavy level is Khorne NoClip full D with 3m+ objects
however i am so proud of you that you tried to fight the myth about timeless which lasted for over 6 years now. it is not -68 years long, but 2.5 billion years, like you said.
I didnt fact check 900+10 just used it as an example ye, the same thing applies tho so its not like it really matters
ye ik i didnt say timeless was the longest one, i just said its thought to be one of the longest
yeye i know but i just mentioned speeding up cause it was cooler imo
and thx :)))))
@@EREnder anyway i really liked the editing in this video, nice job
Correction of correction and more corrections:
Technically, the longest level in terms of units is indeed Emptiness, but in terms of time needed to beat the level, it would be either Nessus as you said (because of an XPOS timer) or 3sh^48 (I don't remember the exact name, but it involves beating 3sh like so many times)
Corrections to Ender:
You stop moving because everything rounds to zero.
Also technically the most objects you can put in the level is 1.6 million due to the text object being weird, and OM also had the issue that die to the 800k+ objects it sometimes simply just didn't render, so you could beat the level in like 3 seconds.
Also there's much more bugs at the XPOS limit and you didn't even mention the SSB, but it's not that important :)
Thanks for reading my essay-
@@esmik he did mention ssb
@@lumi2030 oh i probably didnt pay full attention then, sorry :\
Been a while hasn't it :) I'll try to upload faster next time...
Anyhow, reminder to check out Adaf again for helping me SO much with the video :)
I'll add corrections to some things in the video and extra info in the sources and stuff document later on as more things get updated so ye :)
Cya in the next one :)
nah bro you don't have to upload fast if it means you'll give us some of the top notch quality gd content
Excellent video, glad that I could help in doing the research!
Of course GD modders must mean you are involved
Thanks so much for helping me with research, couldn't have done it without you haha, im glad you liked it :)
crashing due to memory limits seems to be a windows only issue. i can load levels with over 1.1 million objects without any problems whenever im on linux
thats interesting then ye, its a weird thing
11:58
The correct way to beat a corrupted gd level: take screenshots
True
Ngl, this vide was awesome! Some of the new things that you tried out were really interesting, and I loved the editing style!
I hope that you'll keep finding the time to make vides like this one while also working on the other one!
Thanks a lot man :DD im really glad you liked it, and yes, ill try to make other vids like these in the future :)
2:21 In fact I've calculated that it is possible to have 1,6 million objects on a level without the use of hacks. It's a bug with the text object.
oh thats interesting, i havent found that out
The way it works is simple. In short you can go over the object limit by the use of the "split" button in the text object. The maximum amount of letters in a text object is 20. So if we were to add 80000 text objects with 20 letters on each one to a gd level, and split each one: We would get 1600000 objects.
But trust me, no one wants to do this. It would be super boring to do and that's why I don't recommend it. It also has to be done on a very specific order.
11/10 👏
I can tell that a lot of time and effort were put into planning and editing this vid. I loved it
thank you so much! really glad you enjoyed it :)
amazing edits dude! keep it up!
thank you so much!
A genuine banger video
Thanks a lot man :DDD
such a well made video. unreal that gd content is this good nowadays
Thx so much! I'm really glad you liked it :)))
10:42 this is literally the funniest unrate ive ever seen LMAO
FR
The editing and research on this video are fantastic! You're sorely underrated.
Thx so much :))
the editing it's just so good, you improved a lot
thx so much!
2:53
A random ad popped out and i thought that was what gonna happen
Oh lol
Fr
3:32 💀”yo what’s ur highest object count” “YES”
yes
Yes
Excellent video, the editing also looks sick
Thanks so much :DDDDD
Yooo your vids insane glad you posted a new one
Thx a lot man :D
3:00 nothing like goatvill sound track from Goat Simulator, ahhhhhhhhhh
Yes
Finally someone knows
I’m blown away by the production quality of this video. amazing job!
thx so much :DDDD
nice video, lots of information covered in a fun way! i subbed
Thanks a lot :D glad you liked it :))
I love how you go in depth into every aspect of this video well done!
Thank you :)
0:29 “This is the game’s supposed health” well it is like on 1/100 because 2.2-
True
He he reply from ender but 2 likes
14:25 HOW DID YOU MAKE THIS VIDEO LIKE WHAT THE JIXHFSDUIFHE
haha :D
magnificent video, cool editing and interesting topic. gj!
Thx a lot :DDD
Holy moly this is so good edited, incredible video!
Thx so much :DDD
Timeless is the perfect level for waiting for 2.2
so true
you'll need to play emptiness a couple of times
Massive video Ender, loved every second of it, so interesting
thanks so much man!
Interesting video, and nice editing. You've improved a lot! :)
Thx a lot!
@@EREnder you’re welcome :D
You've improved so much Ender! Great video!
thanks so much man :D
@@EREnder If you for some reason remember me, I was named MasterBub, but I can't seem to change my name back from Super Probably Level lol.
@@masterbub4026 super probably level is cool so don't worry
So glad to see another video from u!! :))
im glad you are glad :)
This video was a BANGER 🔥🔥 nice work man
Thank you :)))))
I love seeing people push games to their limits like this it is one of the most intriguing things to watch. I'm excited to see how much people can break this game in the next update with all the new editor tools available. Really good video and the editing was top tier
Thx so much! I'm really glad you enjoyed it
Banger video dude wtf you really went ham with the editing
haha thx man :) really appreciate it
This editing is on point, and the video is exceptional very entertaining well done!
thx so much!
10:17 - Yes, the big mode
true
9:37
Me : Yo math question
So basically, if we are met with 5(2-3i), anything next to the bracket needs to be multiplied with whatever is in the bracket, so in this case, we need to do :
5 x 2 and...
5 x -3i
5 x 2 = 10
5 x -3i = -15i (Multiplying a negative number with a positive number will be negative.)
Add them all up, we can get this.
10-15i. ! IMPORTANT FOR LATER !
We can do the same for the other bracket, but wait. It has a subtract symbol.
-4(4+6i)
Going back to to "5 x 3i", we can say that multiplying a negative number with a positive number will still be a negative number. So we need to do =
-4 x 4
-4 x 6i
Doing these equations, we can soon get the answer.
-4 x 4 = -16
-4 x 6i = -24i
After adding them all up again, we get this.
-16-24i
We need to add all of these final answers together, this gets us :
10 - 15i - 16 - 24i
Technically, this is an acceptable answer since it has said "Simplify" and not "Simplify fully" but no. Let's continue. ()
𝟭𝟬 - 15i - 𝟭𝟲 - 24i
We simply it further.
10-16=-6, so.
-6 - 15i - 24i
This still needs to be simplified fully.
-6 - 𝟭𝟱𝗶 - 𝟮𝟰𝗶
-15i - 24i is -39i (They are both negatives. If you take away from a negative, the negative is smaller. It is like a bank account. -£10 from your bank, take away £5 and you get -£15)
This give us -𝟲 - 𝟯𝟵𝗶, and that is our answer.
This is literally what you are first taught in secondary school.
(Don't give me the value of pi to 45 digits, I am not a true mathematician.)
((I can recite pi to 45 digits, but I am not the best at maths, I don't solve theories or whatever...))
bro what i dont know anything about imaginary numbers we have never done those its probably correct
@@EREnder yeah i hope i am 😭 it took 10 gillion hours to write all this. I just saw a math question and loved maths so i solved it lol. It's called "Expanding brackets" and i love that topic
you prob dont know what i am talking about, if you dont know, ignore it.
Bruh
You could do this without the fact that i = sqrt(-1)
Dude, you are super underrated! Your videos are super high quality.
Thx so much :DD
Worth the wait,amazing video man
Thx so much :D
@@EREnder happy birthday btw
Now more people will surpass me and i will stay at 15
@@Georgexving this is incredibly sad
@@Georgexving and thx :)
whatever you do, don’t push robber to the limits
true...
This is the best video related to GD i've ever seen. Massive props to you!
Thx so much!
I really like your vids! plus your voice is kinda cool! and the editing is so smooth!
Thx a lot :DDD
Nice work bro, keep it up!
Thanks :)
Amazing editing and pacing!
Thanks a lot man :D
Happy you made a video again :) Good research for the video, enjoyed every bit of it!
Edit: the level with the most objects is actually "Ocular Miracle Noclip"
Oh true ye I forgot about that level. And im glad you enjoyed it :D
This is really really good. I would not be able to do edits like these.
also how did you figure out the lengths of levels like Timeless?
Thanks a lot :D And ye adaf sent me the length via cheat engine I units and then I just converted it them to blocks and then used a blocks per second method to figure out the time
thanks for playtesting my level I appreciate it
Np :)
Man is this guys videos got me into Geometry dash I love your videos. Keep up the good work
Haha thx :)
Bro still watching this video
Damn this vid was really good the new documentary style the community has evolved is amazing keep it up!
thx so much!
This had an interesting take on how much the game’s limits can be broken easily. I had a rare occasion that made the icon softlocked just from playing a single attempt in a featured level.
oh thats interesting
Have subscribed you 1-2 Years ago and watched your content. You have improved so much and this video in particular is Awesome! The editing is so great somehow looks like samifyings editing style ^^
Btw what editing software do you use (and your old one) ? I am interested what that is because the animations looks extremely good!
Thanks a lot!!! really appreciate it :) and the software i use nowadays is premiere pro with after effects (3d things like the bg in the beginning is made using blender). My old software used to be kinemaster mobile haha, and well, alight motion and the occasional blender thing. To say the least, these new ones are much better
@@EREnder Nice! Thanks for the fast an friendly reply ^^
Does it take a long time to do the animations in Adobe animate? I'm curious because I always wanna do some cool editing stuff or so like you... But it's complicated and I can't coordinate where anything is xD
Your so talented! Keep up that great work! Your so underrated
@@Haj46 Adobe Animate is actually a different software which is similar to Adobe flash, the one i use for animations by adobe is adobe after effects. The animations do take a while to make but not insanely long. A 10-20sec animation type thing could take 2-3hrs on average but could be done faster (or sometimes slower) depending on the complexity. It takes a while to learn but after a while you really get the hang of stuff so dw, and thanks again :)
Ah gosh, finally you released the video, i watched and (kinda idk) gave an idea of a new video for me :) anyways good video and keep it up!
thx man :DD and yes finally i uploaded
Yay! You finally uploaded!
ikr, insane
Awesome video! Btw 12:57 something similar happened to me. Whenever I clicked on open it never opened. I couldn't verify the game's files, etc. However, after searching stuff up online, restarting my computer did the trick and it was fixed.
Thank you! And yeah it's a pretty common issue it seems
yeah but for me i had to reinstall windows because nothing worked
I BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS… THANK YOU!!!!
no way epic
Also a banger video (I put some corrections into the corrections post reply Ender xD)
Hi Esmik. :3
thx a lot!
@@tezvx sup :)
amazing video, worth the wait!!
thanks man :D im glad it was :)
10:24
If giant gamemodes existed
True
upload schedule aside
Very nice video and super interesting!
thx man :)
Level length: 2 billion years
JonathanGD: hold my beer
true...
Nice improvement of your old video!
i hope so loool
New sub, incredible work, greats from Peru🇵🇪
Thx a lot :))
I love how the subtitles includes notes for the editor :D
oh TRUE lol
Ur videos are so interesting keep it up
Thank you :DD
One small detail to add. You can simply make a crash trigger by placing a spawn trigger that activates a stop trigger that deactivates the original spawn trigger.
Ye that's another way
you never fail to impress me. really nice video
Thx a lot :DDD
Nice video!
Thanks!
I cant believe you only have 5k subs,this video is great quality.Anyways i wonder now what will happen if you try beating timeless with speedhack or instant completion
you get stuck actually, theres like no way of beating it loool., And thx a lot man! im glad you like it :)
Hello great vid man
Thx so much :))
one of the best videos I’ve ever seen!
thx so much!
this guy is so underrated. new subscriber!
thanks so much!
Absolutely Incredible work
thank you so much man :DD really appreciate it
you literally respond to every comment, that’s 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks :)
Wow que increíble video se nota tu esfuerzo, y gracias por los subtítulos así entendí mejor
Thank you :D
*_This Is Well Explained. Thanks For Informing Me About This Information._*
Np :)
Why is it in italic font
@@filipfilip1507 *_Thats How I Do My Comments Usually._*
great vid make more like these
Thank you :))
This video was very interesting!
Thank you!
Corrections:
1:45 Rather than grid space, it is actually editor sections, which is every 100 units, that it checks.
9:50 You can actually calculate the exact time your icon will stop per frame rate, if you want the maximum time, it would be for 1-62fps on slow speed, which means the limit is 2^25 units. Using the equation (x/30)/8.4, you can get the amount of time in seconds, (33554432/30)/8.4, which is 133152.5079 seconds, or 2219 minutes, or ~37 hours
That's cool to know! Thanks for the corrections I'll add them in the Google doc in a bit
I love watching videos like this!!
thank you!
i knew it, i always thought the icon started moving faster towards the end of the level, it felt like is did, thx for the proof! :D
np :)))
I love how you and Sami use a lot of Celeste music in your videos
thx :))) its good music so why not
great video!!!
Thank you :)))
Slight clarification: the the icon moving faster and stopping is only because in the increments the icon moves is small enough so that at large distances the increments are less than the precision possible(because of floating-point getting less precise the further out you are), if this makes you round up to the next possible number, you end up going further than you should, and if it rounds down to were you already are, you don't move at all. Although this applies to x and y position, it also applies to rendering, which is why the icon deforms at large distances. Technically these imprecisions and deformations always happen and just get more noticeable every power of 2 you go away from 0.
Edit: Forgot to mention this but geometry dash is supposed to always go at the intended speed regardless of FPS, so if your FPS is lower, the increments you move in are larger. This also means that higher FPS = smaller increments, which is why you are unable to move from precision error faster with higher FPS, as each individual increment becomes to small to make a diffrence.
oh yeye that makes sense, pretty interesting ngl
Ender: Of course, this is just a theory-
Me: A GAME THEORY!
yes
- What inside in Area 51?
- What is Bermuda Triangle?
*- What if we reached 1% in Timeless by Cyrillic*
Insane...
To get 1% on this level, you have to sit there for over 1 year...
love the editing especially for a gd video lol
thank you :)
Worth the wait
im glad :)
good video but you forgot mentioning that the higher fps you have you can also move slower than normal look at thanks level by fancyex after some parts it breaks and the wave goes slower
thx man :) but yeye i know that i left it out but i just did it cause it wasnt that crucial and it messed the pacing a bit but ye fair criticism
1 thing about ocular miracle: it had so many objects it caused the texture glitches but it had to be split into 3 parts because the objects caused some devices to straight up not load the level giving you a blank one instead, in turn making ocular miracle a free extreme demon if you're lucky (this can happen on other detailed levels, my friend accidentally beat white space like that)
true ye that happens
Best Video ever!❤
thx a lot!