@@McGaming412 The fan noise curve is unbalanced. The Problem is that it switches to the Nvidia Graphics if you plug an external monitor. Dont know if they fix it. I hope they do cause there are many things like design and build quality I like. Very sad that it fails at this point to be the perfect Windows Notebook.
Razer Blade 15, RTX 2060, I have exactly the same problem with a docking station via thunderbolt. The fans go crazy for absolutely no reason, external monitor is not even connected, just 4 USB's. That's obviously a bug, fan speed should be based on the temperature
I also have MacOS on anther SSD. When running it doesn’t even come on when exporting a photo in photoshop. It’s very quite most of the time so to be it’s a bug either OS or razer bios. It’s not responding to the temp change appropriately. Don’t want to fresh install which may or may not fix it but may if I go windows 11 some day 😅
I have the same issue with a 2020 blade 15 base. Fan noise when doing not much makes it pretty useless in a quiet home office. Using hwinfo you'll see gpu idles at 10 watts with a monitor plugged in which I think is part of but not all of the problem. Razor have told me the fan curve in the bios needs updating but doesn't sound like they actually plan to do that.
Ah it finally happened to you. This happened to my blade 14 early 2016 and I had to stop using it. It was RMA’d about 8 times and they never fixed it. They’re a waste of money and they don’t care about their customers. I am so sorry you got burned too.
Yeah there really is 0 customer support with these devices. I did escape getting burned and got my money back through my credit card, but the waste of time is very frustrating.
Okay, so my Blade 2020 with RTX 3080 is only super loud when the charger is plugged in. Any idea how to change that? Why are the fans running like crazy just because it's charging?
not familiar with it but I tried writing a new bios. for this laptop they had a minimum speed of like 40 or 60%. I just got rid of the laptop as it was a joke to use it docked like that
One thing you could actually try is disabling the GTX card in device manager, the system still works as it should but the discrete card doesn't come on and off, I'm not sure if that will interfere with the external display though
@@VWTalk you only need the discrete GPU when gaming to get those high framerates. There's no point of using it when browsing RUclips or Reddit as the iGPU can give the same output and at lower temperatures
Its because you're plugged into the gpu. Using an external screen makes the gpu work harder. Especially one that uses a higher resolution than the laptop itself. My Acer Predator Helios 300 does the exact same thing. It runs hotter simply hooking up an external monitor to it
the fan response is not proportionate to the load difference. displaying the windows background even at 1080p on an external display causes the same issue.
Fan speed should always be tied to CPU/GPU temperatures and workload, and nothing else. If the CPU and GPU are largely idle, and the temps are low as shown in this video, the fans should be off or barely spinning.
Hello all, coming from Eluktronics Mag-15 or XMG Fusuion 15 (european branding) with the same problem. At idle, with nothing running , my fans are almost contantly on at 2600rpm, it has the same gpu+ cpu. I was thinking to return it and get a Razer with 1660 ti, but I see the same or similar problem exists here too. Check with your nVidia and Intel graphics drivers, usually those guys are the culprits.
Martin Koev my razer blade stealth 13 does the same thing. upon digging in the task manager i found out that the windows was running a security scan and/ or updating so nothing to worry about it.
I also have the sane problem but my laptop isn’t heating up, the fans just run for no reason. Idk since the last time but customer service was really good, and they are offering a free fix. Any ideas so i dont have to ship it to American.
its normal. its hard programmed to keep the fans spinning when having a display attacked, and plugged in. the display attached can only work through the dedicated GPU, which basically makes the blade eat twice the power, so more heat.
agreed it normal to here fan noise on external display because it activates the didcated graphics card. my issue is i did not connect a display and sometimes (not always) my fans a noticeably loud at idle. my temps are around 29-20C range in an air conditioned room
Fan speed should always be tied to CPU/GPU temperatures and workload, and nothing else. If the CPU and GPU are largely idle, and the temps are low as shown in this video, the fans should be off or barely spinning. Razer should not be hard programming in fan spin for any reason. Shoddy engineering and a legit complaint.
wish i watched this video before buying this laptop :) loud fans for no reason too....first 2 days did not experience it then synapses installed itself and problems began but even after uninstalling it the fans are still noisy when just browsing with open lid. oh an laptop is pretty warm with cpu and grpu temps at about 45-55 rangde at idle. could it be down to thermal paste?
Hey there, I'm a graphic designer and I'm considering buying the Razer 15 blade studio edition or something similar. I wouldn't connect it to any monitors just the laptop itself. I usually use chrome + Photoshop, Spotify maybe. Do you think the fan would be this loud in my case?
it won't be bad when you're using it without an external display. clearly there is something in the bios that when the device is hooked up to a display (i.e. switches to dp output) it kicks the fans into high gear. in my experience it def will not run louder than expected (i.e. low workload like photoshop) when no display is hooked up.
@Johann Razanadahy I bought a 16" MacBook Pro and built a gaming rig for my gaming. Gave up on gaming laptops. If you're after a gaming laptop i would go with the new ASUS that has Ryzen 4000 series processors.
i have the same exact problem this started happening last week i have the razer blade advanced 2020, when i unplug no fan noise when plugged in it goes ham. Did you find a solution?
There is a simple reason for it. You are making it use its graphics card to display the 5k monitor. The razer blade assumes it needs to ramp up its fan when using it graphics card. This happens to almost all laptops.
It happens to poorly designed laptops. GPU fan speed is based on GPU load in any device designed by a competent individual. This is an obvious design issue.
Fan speed should always be tied to CPU/GPU temperatures and workload, and nothing else. If the CPU and GPU are largely idle, and the temps are low as shown in this video, the fans should be off or barely spinning. Razer should not be hard programming in fan spin for any reason. Shoddy engineering and a legit complaint.
did you ever tried it on different os? like i suggest you tried it on ubuntu with plugged to external monitor, to see there is problem with hardware or just the software system
Yes I tried with ubuntu as well as manjaro. Had issues getting thunderbolt to work but via HDMI had same issue, clearly the fans are being controlled on a hardware level.
I also tried modifying c states by modifying the bios (not an actual setting that is in bios, but capturing modifying and rewriting the bios to the chip), and I was able to get it quieter under load, but idle fan speeds were still crazy loud.
And I don't think it's a hardware issue but an actual issue with the firmware on these devices, as this is the second one I've had (I returned the first one with the same issues).
This is strange, I don't connect mine to a monitor so can't say if it is something to do with that. Doing light stuff like RUclips and chrome etc my razer blade is silent 95+% of the time.
Same here, I even swapped it with another of the same model razer blade 15, and both computers had same results when plugged into my monitor. Otherwise generally silent if im just using a browser.
@@VWTalkOh ok perhaps it's requiring more CPU etc to run the monitor which therefore causes the fan to spin up. But even then I don't think mine get that loud while gaming even.
@@twizzbharat2577 GPU and CPU usage are around 0-3% during this video. GPU and CPU temps were also both approx 50C, so to me there is no reason the fans were ramping up aside from some sort of firmware issue.
@@VWTalk did you find a fix cause my razer blade 15 used to run silent and after reinstalling windows is does not anymore cpu hit 58c on idle, with nothing running and power saving mode. This also causes the battery life to go down to only one hour. This never happened before, I used to run this laptop silent with like 20 chrome tabs, any suggestions on what to do?
Hi Chuck, thanks for sharing this video. I'm currently thinking about buying the 2019 (1660ti) model (256 SSD) and I'm split between buying that or the Acer Predator Helios 300. I found this Razer model on Amazon for 1,200 Euros, so it's on special. What do you think man, is it worth the money? I'm concerned about temperature, as the Predator claims to have a great cooling system... what have you found to be thee case with this Razer Blade?
dieeego I paid $1450 CAD (925 euro without sales tax) for this initially one year ago when it launched, if you are getting the 1660ti/9th gen 6 core i7, I’d advise you avoid both options. Look into a gaming laptop with the new amd ryzen 4000 series, they run significantly cooler and perform better than Intel, and this is coming from someone who has been an Intel fanboy for life. Regardless of which way you go, 1200 for this machine is a bad deal. I’ve gone through about 4 laptops in the last year, buying and returning trying to find one without crippling flaws, and I’d advise anyone I know to steer clear of razer. The issue I experienced with this laptop will never be fixed.
@@VWTalk Thanks so much Chuck! I appreciate your response. Unfortunately, it came a little too late, as I already purchased the 2020 Razer Blade for $1,200. As of this moment, my fans work perfectly and they shut off when I am not gaming. I'm not experiencing this same issue. Apparently, Razer resolved the fan issues in their new models. Hoping that remains true! *fingers crossed*
The blade isn’t really designed to be used with the closed lid, you’re essentially cooking it because the exhaust is below the display, what was your CPU temps when the lid was closed?
Cpu and GPU were both between 40 and 50c. I experienced this behaviour in both closed and opened mode, just had it closed in the video since I was operating with one hand.
hey i guess ik the reason for the issue i might be wrong tho see when using an external monitor it switches to the external graphics and the exteral graphics always use the fans at pretty high speeds even if the temps are low
Manab Dutta not on all laptops it shouldn’t. Think about it, in a properly designed machine, cooling should kick in when necessary, I.e. based on temperature. Not based on what’s being used.
Chuck I agree but that’s just how gpu are configured imo I might just be wrong but in my exp that’s mostly the case also do u suggest the Rb 15 or the m15
Manab Dutta In my opinion it’s an unacceptable configuration and not having fan curve control in the year 2020 is a joke. Personally I would avoid the blade 15 until some serious design improvements are made. If I were buying a 15” windows laptop for gaming today, I probably would buy the zephrus g14 from asus. The razer machines are riddled with small bugs and oversights such as this and the support is non existent. Being a student, when I buy a high end laptop I buy it to keep a while, and all the issues I’ve experienced with the razer device would lead me to avoid the company until they get a little more user focused, instead of focused on cranking out a laptop that functions.
Chuck that build is the only tempting thing so far all the reviews that I’ve seen start off with praising the shit out of this laptop and then surely enough there is an edit which highlights the “amazing” quality control guess m15 or maybe g14 it is for me cheers and thanks again for the quick response hope u either get a fix for ur issues or well get a new ( better device) I’ve always loved the MacBook Pro ish design that razer has and for the price they charge quality control shouldn’t be something people should ever worry about but alas we don’t live in a perfect world do we 🙈
It's not normal. Razer confirmed it's their issue. All you can do it disable Intel CPU Boost in BIOS settings or return this model to Razer.
I can confirm this issue also with 2020 RTX2060 if you plug the HDMI cable. The noise is not acceptable I'm sad that I cant use an external monitor...
@@McGaming412 The fan noise curve is unbalanced. The Problem is that it switches to the Nvidia Graphics if you plug an external monitor. Dont know if they fix it. I hope they do cause there are many things like design and build quality I like. Very sad that it fails at this point to be the perfect Windows Notebook.
Mine is loud even without it plugged into an external monitor, so is it a hardware issue or a software problem
Agreed. It is ridiculous.
Razer Blade 15, RTX 2060, I have exactly the same problem with a docking station via thunderbolt. The fans go crazy for absolutely no reason, external monitor is not even connected, just 4 USB's. That's obviously a bug, fan speed should be based on the temperature
I got the same problem. But it seems resolve now by change setting in " Razer Synapse " > system > performance modes > plugged in > Creator.
@@sokmeansan7506 immediately fixed my problem lol, thanks for sharing this!
@@andrewmjohnson did not fix mine. my fans are a bit noisy with anything connected in an AC room
@@schalachi bummer! Mine still kicks in from time to time when I’m not even pushing it.
I also have MacOS on anther SSD. When running it doesn’t even come on when exporting a photo in photoshop. It’s very quite most of the time so to be it’s a bug either OS or razer bios. It’s not responding to the temp change appropriately. Don’t want to fresh install which may or may not fix it but may if I go windows 11 some day 😅
I have the same issue with a 2020 blade 15 base. Fan noise when doing not much makes it pretty useless in a quiet home office. Using hwinfo you'll see gpu idles at 10 watts with a monitor plugged in which I think is part of but not all of the problem. Razor have told me the fan curve in the bios needs updating but doesn't sound like they actually plan to do that.
Ah it finally happened to you. This happened to my blade 14 early 2016 and I had to stop using it. It was RMA’d about 8 times and they never fixed it. They’re a waste of money and they don’t care about their customers. I am so sorry you got burned too.
Yeah there really is 0 customer support with these devices. I did escape getting burned and got my money back through my credit card, but the waste of time is very frustrating.
@@VWTalk wow. You were very lucky. Can I suggest looking for a used legion 5 2020? I have absolutely loved mine and lenovo lets you buy more warranty!
@@Wren6858 I already got a 2019 MacBook Pro 16" right after the razor and have been really happy with it for my use
@@VWTalk awesome for you dude
@@VWTalk I have a Legion 5 with a 1660ti. Its amazing.
Okay, so my Blade 2020 with RTX 3080 is only super loud when the charger is plugged in. Any idea how to change that? Why are the fans running like crazy just because it's charging?
not familiar with it but I tried writing a new bios. for this laptop they had a minimum speed of like 40 or 60%. I just got rid of the laptop as it was a joke to use it docked like that
One thing you could actually try is disabling the GTX card in device manager, the system still works as it should but the discrete card doesn't come on and off, I'm not sure if that will interfere with the external display though
I didn't buy this laptop to use the intel iGPU, I would have bought a cheapie laptop instead.
@@VWTalk you only need the discrete GPU when gaming to get those high framerates. There's no point of using it when browsing RUclips or Reddit as the iGPU can give the same output and at lower temperatures
@@HandheldGamingHQ no it can't.
I have the sam model and I do not have any problems
same*
@@icedjelly you got him good
Its because you're plugged into the gpu. Using an external screen makes the gpu work harder. Especially one that uses a higher resolution than the laptop itself. My Acer Predator Helios 300 does the exact same thing. It runs hotter simply hooking up an external monitor to it
the fan response is not proportionate to the load difference. displaying the windows background even at 1080p on an external display causes the same issue.
Fan speed should always be tied to CPU/GPU temperatures and workload, and nothing else. If the CPU and GPU are largely idle, and the temps are low as shown in this video, the fans should be off or barely spinning.
Hello all, coming from Eluktronics Mag-15 or XMG Fusuion 15 (european branding) with the same problem. At idle, with nothing running , my fans are almost contantly on at 2600rpm, it has the same gpu+ cpu. I was thinking to return it and get a Razer with 1660 ti, but I see the same or similar problem exists here too. Check with your nVidia and Intel graphics drivers, usually those guys are the culprits.
Martin Koev my razer blade stealth 13 does the same thing. upon digging in the task manager i found out that the windows was running a security scan and/ or updating so nothing to worry about it.
I also have the sane problem but my laptop isn’t heating up, the fans just run for no reason. Idk since the last time but customer service was really good, and they are offering a free fix. Any ideas so i dont have to ship it to American.
they're not going to fix it.
its normal. its hard programmed to keep the fans spinning when having a display attacked, and plugged in.
the display attached can only work through the dedicated GPU, which basically makes the blade eat twice the power, so more heat.
agreed it normal to here fan noise on external display because it activates the didcated graphics card. my issue is i did not connect a display and sometimes (not always) my fans a noticeably loud at idle. my temps are around 29-20C range in an air conditioned room
Fan speed should always be tied to CPU/GPU temperatures and workload, and nothing else. If the CPU and GPU are largely idle, and the temps are low as shown in this video, the fans should be off or barely spinning. Razer should not be hard programming in fan spin for any reason. Shoddy engineering and a legit complaint.
Did you find a fix for it ? The razer support dont care at all on my case (bought it since february)
The fix was ditching razer unfortunately. I even wrote a custom firmware for it but it seems the issue is limited by the hardware.
wish i watched this video before buying this laptop :) loud fans for no reason too....first 2 days did not experience it then synapses installed itself and problems began but even after uninstalling it the fans are still noisy when just browsing with open lid. oh an laptop is pretty warm with cpu and grpu temps at about 45-55 rangde at idle. could it be down to thermal paste?
45 is reasonable for a laptop. To that, I didn't try changing the thermal paste. I'd be surprised if it was.
Hey there, I'm a graphic designer and I'm considering buying the Razer 15 blade studio edition or something similar. I wouldn't connect it to any monitors just the laptop itself. I usually use chrome + Photoshop, Spotify maybe. Do you think the fan would be this loud in my case?
If plugged in yes, you Will hear fans , if on battery expect 2-3.5 battery but might run quieter
@@Jason-hl2wy Thank you sm!
it won't be bad when you're using it without an external display. clearly there is something in the bios that when the device is hooked up to a display (i.e. switches to dp output) it kicks the fans into high gear. in my experience it def will not run louder than expected (i.e. low workload like photoshop) when no display is hooked up.
Did you ever find a fix for the noise? I currently have the same model and the noise is kinda annoying
The fix i found was to return it and buy a laptop from a different manufacturer
Chuck damn, I’m probably going to do the same thing
@Johann Razanadahy I bought a 16" MacBook Pro and built a gaming rig for my gaming. Gave up on gaming laptops. If you're after a gaming laptop i would go with the new ASUS that has Ryzen 4000 series processors.
@@VWTalk did you have to do a RMA? Or did you return it within their return window? Thinking about doing the same with mine...
all these beasts are same and until cooling technology evolves you have to live with !
i have the same exact problem this started happening last week i have the razer blade advanced 2020, when i unplug no fan noise when plugged in it goes ham. Did you find a solution?
solution was to return and buy a new laptop from someone else
Hi mate ever had battery bloating issue ?
Got rid of this crap laptop way before it was an issue
There is a simple reason for it. You are making it use its graphics card to display the 5k monitor. The razer blade assumes it needs to ramp up its fan when using it graphics card. This happens to almost all laptops.
It happens to poorly designed laptops. GPU fan speed is based on GPU load in any device designed by a competent individual. This is an obvious design issue.
Fan speed should always be tied to CPU/GPU temperatures and workload, and nothing else. If the CPU and GPU are largely idle, and the temps are low as shown in this video, the fans should be off or barely spinning. Razer should not be hard programming in fan spin for any reason. Shoddy engineering and a legit complaint.
did you ever tried it on different os? like i suggest you tried it on ubuntu with plugged to external monitor, to see there is problem with hardware or just the software system
Yes I tried with ubuntu as well as manjaro. Had issues getting thunderbolt to work but via HDMI had same issue, clearly the fans are being controlled on a hardware level.
I also tried modifying c states by modifying the bios (not an actual setting that is in bios, but capturing modifying and rewriting the bios to the chip), and I was able to get it quieter under load, but idle fan speeds were still crazy loud.
And I don't think it's a hardware issue but an actual issue with the firmware on these devices, as this is the second one I've had (I returned the first one with the same issues).
This is strange, I don't connect mine to a monitor so can't say if it is something to do with that. Doing light stuff like RUclips and chrome etc my razer blade is silent 95+% of the time.
Same here, I even swapped it with another of the same model razer blade 15, and both computers had same results when plugged into my monitor. Otherwise generally silent if im just using a browser.
@@VWTalkOh ok perhaps it's requiring more CPU etc to run the monitor which therefore causes the fan to spin up. But even then I don't think mine get that loud while gaming even.
@@twizzbharat2577 GPU and CPU usage are around 0-3% during this video. GPU and CPU temps were also both approx 50C, so to me there is no reason the fans were ramping up aside from some sort of firmware issue.
@@VWTalk yeah it's strange
@@VWTalk did you find a fix cause my razer blade 15 used to run silent and after reinstalling windows is does not anymore cpu hit 58c on idle, with nothing running and power saving mode. This also causes the battery life to go down to only one hour. This never happened before, I used to run this laptop silent with like 20 chrome tabs, any suggestions on what to do?
Any idea if they are plastic or metal fins?
Fins where? For the fans? It's plastic.
Chuck yeah sorry meant the fans plastic cool thanks
Hi Chuck, thanks for sharing this video. I'm currently thinking about buying the 2019 (1660ti) model (256 SSD) and I'm split between buying that or the Acer Predator Helios 300. I found this Razer model on Amazon for 1,200 Euros, so it's on special. What do you think man, is it worth the money? I'm concerned about temperature, as the Predator claims to have a great cooling system... what have you found to be thee case with this Razer Blade?
dieeego I paid $1450 CAD (925 euro without sales tax) for this initially one year ago when it launched, if you are getting the 1660ti/9th gen 6 core i7, I’d advise you avoid both options. Look into a gaming laptop with the new amd ryzen 4000 series, they run significantly cooler and perform better than Intel, and this is coming from someone who has been an Intel fanboy for life. Regardless of which way you go, 1200 for this machine is a bad deal. I’ve gone through about 4 laptops in the last year, buying and returning trying to find one without crippling flaws, and I’d advise anyone I know to steer clear of razer. The issue I experienced with this laptop will never be fixed.
@@VWTalk Thanks so much Chuck! I appreciate your response. Unfortunately, it came a little too late, as I already purchased the 2020 Razer Blade for $1,200. As of this moment, my fans work perfectly and they shut off when I am not gaming. I'm not experiencing this same issue. Apparently, Razer resolved the fan issues in their new models. Hoping that remains true! *fingers crossed*
@@VWTalk lol, razer is the best.
The blade isn’t really designed to be used with the closed lid, you’re essentially cooking it because the exhaust is below the display, what was your CPU temps when the lid was closed?
Cpu and GPU were both between 40 and 50c. I experienced this behaviour in both closed and opened mode, just had it closed in the video since I was operating with one hand.
Hey , do you know the wattage of the 1660ti in this?
Unknown to me
Hey there bud!
@@KrnSgr bruh
hey i guess ik the reason for the issue i might be wrong tho see when using an external monitor it switches to the external graphics and the exteral graphics always use the fans at pretty high speeds even if the temps are low
Manab Dutta not on all laptops it shouldn’t. Think about it, in a properly designed machine, cooling should kick in when necessary, I.e. based on temperature. Not based on what’s being used.
Chuck I agree but that’s just how gpu are configured imo I might just be wrong but in my exp that’s mostly the case also do u suggest the Rb 15 or the m15
Manab Dutta In my opinion it’s an unacceptable configuration and not having fan curve control in the year 2020 is a joke. Personally I would avoid the blade 15 until some serious design improvements are made. If I were buying a 15” windows laptop for gaming today, I probably would buy the zephrus g14 from asus. The razer machines are riddled with small bugs and oversights such as this and the support is non existent. Being a student, when I buy a high end laptop I buy it to keep a while, and all the issues I’ve experienced with the razer device would lead me to avoid the company until they get a little more user focused, instead of focused on cranking out a laptop that functions.
Chuck that build is the only tempting thing so far all the reviews that I’ve seen start off with praising the shit out of this laptop and then surely enough there is an edit which highlights the “amazing” quality control guess m15 or maybe g14 it is for me cheers and thanks again for the quick response hope u either get a fix for ur issues or well get a new ( better device) I’ve always loved the MacBook Pro ish design that razer has and for the price they charge quality control shouldn’t be something people should ever worry about but alas we don’t live in a perfect world do we 🙈
I think its bcuz that the intake is in the keyboard
This linked vid fixed it. I changed the power management setting as described. No fan ruclips.net/video/TBrhqgcPTKU/видео.html
I had changed the power management at the time. It was unfortunately a firmware issue. I bought a different laptop.