Vegvísir (wrongly called "Viking Compass")
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- A look at the Vegvísir sigil, which is not a "rune" (a letter in a runic alphabet, a futhark) and showed up in Iceland closer to when the bicycle did than the Vikings.
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One of the oldest runic inscriptions ever found has just been announced in the Norwegian media. Krister Vasshus at the University of Bergen has a welcome break-down of the major points of the find in a Twitter thread that starts at twitter.com/KristerVasshus/status/1615236531689607169
while it may not be a viking era symbol its more than likely that the symbol itself was created by those who kept the old norce faith of the viking era which would mean that it is still as valid as any other symbol of norce paganism
@@fangslore9988 *norse
@JacksonCrawford I would not call this a sigil, it's a stafgaldur, staf (letter) and galdur (spell), as in a written spell instead of a chanted spell.
I do agree that the it seems very reminiscent of the grimoire sigils, and the "letters" seems likely to have been made using the mysticism of the nine chambers from kabbalah.
Interesting enigma.
@@williamabrahamsson2945 norse paganism adopts many different sigles staves and symbology, it is only natural that it change over time
@@fangslore9988 I know, I'm born in and live in scandinavia, and my family still keeps viking traditions.
But your answer is not an answer to what I said.
_"So it's the path finder sigil, it's supposed to help you find your way. What is can't do is find it's way all the way back to the Viking Age."_ My sides.
laughed out loud at that one!
The intro of “not everything is a rune” as a story is hilarious. Keep it up, great work!
Omg the “can I see your tattoo?” Line dude you are cracking me up here
I spit my coffee out at this
I laughed so hard at that lol
This video has the perfect amount of sarcasm based on experience haha
Love this- 1. Old is relative 2. Context is everything 3. Straight shooting appreciated 4. Stunning example of a Rocky Mountain winter day.
Knowing Colorado this was probably filmed in June.
How can you not believe in magic, in a setting like that?
I can point out that 1860 is the time period when the Grimm brothers were alive and had become popular as a result of their having collected German folklore into the 'tales' we know today. Also, right at this time, Wagner was writing his Ring cycle based on Germanic mythology. If there were one time in history when the psychological ground would have been most fertile for the generation of spurious Nordic emblems, this would be the time.
Well, Wilhelm Grimm died in 1859, :p but yes, it was after the rise of Romanticism which seems to be what you are alluding to.
1860, yes, the best bavarian Football Club!
Spurious? Because it's not ancient and...maybe....influenced by an 1800's European culture?
We all know that the Vikings of 'The Viking Age' were eager to explore other cultures and easily assimilated elements into their own. It's a Viking cultural process...if you will....that hasn't changed.
Spurious?...nay....I say in line with a long tradition.
@@JACK_TheAllSeeingEye you know the « Viking age » was so short relative to the ages that happen before a well as after , that sometimes I can’t compute why some people either don’t care to search or learn about of what remains of the long evolution of the Cultures that became the « Viking Nations » or they dismiss any folkloric evolution that happened after cause it might be tainted by Christianity or inaccurate to « the Viking age « ! Folklore is really important, it literally is the adaptation of pre-Christianity beliefs , myths , legends , customs , practices to a Christianized society ! Folklore is literally how some beliefs , myths and cultural practices survived , so I don’t get the fuss about it not being old enough, still folk magic tho !
@@mikejobstbulldog2020 sure, …lol
Stumbled upon Cowboy Norse historian Bob Ross giving a lesson amongst the happy trees.
Excellent video straight to the point no fluff with references and similarities provided to further research and investigate yourself. Very good sir.
Well this Icelander is happy to see such a common misconception explained, and would like to commend your Icelandic pronunciation!
Yeah, his Íslensk is pretty spot-on.
My assistant Stella reminds me to direct viewers to the Icelandic Museum of Sorcery and Witchcraft at galdrasyning.is/ for more about Vegvísir and other "galdrastafir" ("magical staves").
Thanks for another amazing and informative video ☺️
A fascinating museum, well worth a visit for those traveling in the Westfjords. They also offer online lectures and have an excellent bookstore and restaurant.
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I don't have a tattoo either because I think they're unnatural.
I had the vegvísir tattooed on my chest about 3 months ago 🙄
In germany, for example for road signs that show directions leading to a specific place, we still use the word "Wegweiser".
"Way-Shower"
Metal road signs with arrows are just one example. A simple mark on a tree or stone on a forest trail is also a Wegweiser.
In the middle high german language, spoken between 1050 - 1350 A.D. it was "Wegewiser"
In Sweden, we have "vägvisare" to describe a person showing somebody else the way. I could technically be applied to signs and things as well. It's not a commonly used word though.
@@Larrypint We still have a similar thing in Icelandic. "Fé" (I think that's pronounced similar to "Vieh" if you can make that one syllable) can mean "livestock" (and then we can make it more specific like "sauðfé" (sheep-fé) and "fiðurfé" (feather-fé) and "nautfé" (cattle-fé) - out of all the livestock, "fé" on its own most of the time refers to sheep, just because sheep were the most common animals kept through Iceland's history), but it can also just mean "money". "Reiðufé", at least today, means "cash" or more literally "ready-fé".
Then there's word like "búpeningur". "Bú" means "farm", and "peningur" in modern Icelandic normally means "money" (I'm pretty sure it's related to "pfennig"), but combined it's "livestock of a farm". Which makes sense, as you say - before people got around inventing cash, a part of someone's wealth could well be counted by how many animals they had on their farm. You got 50 sheep and 2 milking cows, then you're kind of poor (didn't have much "fé" or "Vieh") but if you had 800 sheep and 85 milking cows, then you'd be rich. I guess, I don't actually know how much you'd need to have to be considered "rich" back then, but as far as I can remember, 2-300 sheep was considered a generous dowry.
And as an aside - in Latin there's a word, "pecunia", and if I remember properly, that means both "money" or "flock", maybe even specifically referring to sheep.
@@Larrypint Oh, and we have a pun for "fé"....
So, "fé" in the dative is "fjár". And "embezzlement" is "fjárdráttur" - literally meaning "drag away fé". But, since "fé" by itself mostly refers to just sheep, and since "dráttur" can also mean "sexual intercourse", we can say:
"Tut tut, you naughty bankers, always shagging the sheep..."
Called 'vejviser' in Danish and Norwegian. Because you know, Germanic languages.
@@Larrypint Goes for the Scandinavian languages as well.
I feel like the closer a topic is to the historic-romantic kind of Viking stuff, the more meme-y the good Dr. Crawfords videos become. And I'm all for it.
"not everything is a rune"
Not with that attitude
Hahhahah
LOL!
I was taught school that the word staves ("staver" in Norwegian) was the lines that make up a rune. Interestingly the word for "letters" in Norwegian/Swedish/Danish today is bokstaver (book staves/book lines).
and Buchstaben in german, literally (pun intended) meaning staffs of beech-wood.
I view ignorant people looking back at ancient Norse in a similar way to people looking at ancient Egyptian writings. They add magic to it since they want to romanticize it.
@@timoadler6356 …. also literally meaning book-staves lol.
In denmark we are taught that bogstaver (letter) comes from the wooden staves that the old norse used for mail.
I'm not sure I understand why people find it interesting that words used today are the same or similar to those used at some point in history. All the romance languages are based on and would be relatively understandable to someone who spoke Latin 2-3000 years ago. Similarly, Germanic languages should find many of the words used today derive from ancient Norse (and whatever preceded it). Many of the names used across Western European cultures are ancient Hebrew - as much as 6000 years old. Seraphim derives from Seraph, an ancient Hebrew word for serpent that almost precedes the written word!
If a word has no reason to be replaced, it won't be. You should expect that more than 50% of the words you use can be found in use, or derived from words in use, thousands of years back.
For those of us who seek to understand and recreate the ancient Heathen worldview, this sort of objective historical analysis is crucial. There is nothing to be gained by believing demonstrable historic falsehoods or fanciful interpretations with no basis in reality. That being said, I do have a Vegvisir sticker on my windshield, and so far I have not gotten lost while driving. ;)
Just because it doesn't come from the Vikings dosent mean it doesn't have meaning. It's just a sigal that came later then the Vikings age
@@lunawolfheart336 sigil* that came later than*...
@@feldgeist2637 That or you'd be considered a man connected with the gods.
Confirmed.
Haaaalarious! I love your sense of humor…I laugh because at times that’s life right? It’s difficult to know the truth and still fit into the norm, but sometimes it’s just fun to play along.
I appreciate that your content is straightforward and educational but never disrespectful. I think it's why so many people who believe in magic recommend you as a source on Old Norse literature even though you yourself do not believe in it. Thanks for the great information, keep up the great work!
@miller_6700 like turning water to wine ? Walking on water ? Raising the Dead ?
@miller What? You say magic is nonsense but then say its important to respect it? Make up your mind.
@@Alphardus you can not believe the principle without being cunty about it. like I don't believe in hinduism but I respect it
@@wolfodinson5303 I'm not religious or superstitious but there's a difference between a gods power and magic
It's like using Latin today as a magical language. It's old (dead) and sounds exotic to us that don't speak it, so it's easy to make whatever associations we want to it. Thanks for your knowledge and candor, Dr. Jackson!
Vatican still uses it as an official language so technically not dead. Also it’s taught still to priests around the world and in colleges for law and medical degrees ect.
It’s not that long ago that people had to understand Latin to read the bible also so even though it may have not bin a main language in places like Ireland and Mexico it definitely was practiced and used in worship before it was “okay” to translate it for lower classes and made profitable by the Gutenberg press
@@BigpapamoneymanMVPtypebeat
If the inhabitants of the vatican are passing on latin to their children as their mother tounge something has gone seriously wrong. A language taught only at secondary or tertiary level is a dead language.
I have to pause before I continue watching this video to tell you how much I appreciate the introduction. I laughed aloud and I was not expecting to
Same! hahaha Love it
I've been wanting to get a vegvisir tattoo for a while now because of its meaning, glad to know that it isn't from the Viking age! At least now I won't pretend that it's Viking, but I can still appreciate it for its symbolism and beauty
@@Larrypint Interessant, so hab ich das Wort "Vieh" noch gar nicht gesehen, generell vermeide ich es eher, wegen seinem eher beleidigenden Charackter, aber das macht schon irgendwie Sinn und klingt schon etwas besser. Schade dass wir so viele Wörter einfach für gegeben nehmen und gar nicht mehr über deren Herkunft und ursprüngliche Bedeutung nachdenken.
How about a Volknot?
@@Larrypint weisen=advise
This is pretty obvious. The vikings popularized the beliefs but the old gods were worshipped long before the vikings existed.
I have a couple questions: What about Aegishjalmur; is it from viking era or after? Is Viking mythology the same as Norse mythology? (Odin, Valhalla, Yggdrasil, Valkyrie, etc..) Im curious because I am designing my second tattoo related to Norse and Viking. I just want to get my facts correct.
I have a tattoo with Odin and vegvisir. To me, learning that it doesnt actually doesn't date back to the Vikings doesn't bother at all. The meaning is what matters to me, and it spoke to me when I was getting the tattoo designed.
I wish everyone knew it too. Ive seen a video very recently of that Icelandic girl that pronounces how some of the words are supposed to be. On top of all her other content. But in the comments a guy was arguing with so many people saying it is from the Viking era. Even tho there’s no evidence at all ever that said the Vikings used it. Because the symbol was used as a part of a Christian magic ritual that may have had some movements rooted in Icelandic culture, but was very common ritualistic practice across Christendom. It’s a Icelandic magical Sigil like Jackson says here. Just like people think Vikings had horns on their helmets when they found helmets that date back 2000 years even before the Vikings were around. Because for a festival a costume designer decided to put horns on the helmets. But I think the sigil is still cool and there’s a few others in the magical staves that are pretty aesthetically appealing too and their meanings. If it means something to you then by all means you know
i am getting a tattoo which have vegvisir included and this doesnt bother me. Im not gonna change it even i could. Going to get it
Just to add on to the point about runes not being inherently magical to the vikings, long before the viking age people had been using inscriptions in our own Latin alphabet to cast spells. They would even write words on a surface, scrape off the ink and mix it into water to make a potion. And yet at the same time people were using those same letters to write books. The letters are a tool with which magic could be practiced, but not necessarily magical in and of themselves. This is likely what is being referred to in old Norse literature when they say that one aught to "learn runes" or "know runes," they need to learn the spells that can be created with those runes.
Even our language, our own alphabet, is considered kind of magical today by numeroligists. We use the letters of our alphabet to do divination. Our own alphabet. There might not be any good evidence that the Nordic people considered their own alphabet to be magical, but it's a lot more probable that they did. It matches human nature. A lot of the conjectures that he makes, or some at least, tend to go against human nature.
@@jessiehermit9503 The problem with arguments based around human nature is that you have to claim that you have a full understanding of human nature. If you claim to do so you should write a book because few would have such confidence.
I don’t know about human nature, but I think it’s interesting that Devanagari, Tibetan, and Hebrew alphabets are all used for regular writing and also have long traditions of using the letters for magical practices (as well as writing out spells, and combinations of the two).
Obviously that doesn’t mean the runes were used that way historically (they are almost certainly used that way nowadays because the techniques were taken from eastern practices at the beginning of the 20th century), but the regular writing doesn’t inherently invalidate the magical purposes of individual letters.
A sidenote; in relation to Finnish tradition, the word «rune» can refer to a spell, not a symbol (these spells weren’t written at all until the 19th century), but a story/statement of knowledge/prowess and/or intention.
I recently found a paper on a new body of medieval textual information in Denmark: Latin-alphabet lead strip amulets (folded and crimped into squarish lumps). The metal-detecting hobbyists/amateur historians over there had been handing over the ones with runes on them under the assumption that the rune-amulets were the old, and the Latin-alphabet were more recent (18th-century +), and therefore of less consequence. When an archaeologist gave a presentation on these amulets, they realized that the Latin-alphabet amulets and the rune amulets were actually contemporaries, and started reporting them in droves.
The paper in question is Lumps of Lead - New Types of Written Sources from Medieval Denmark by Lisbeth M. Imer.
Thank you for this information. I have a Vegvísir tattoo on my arm and it gets a fair number of questions, like, "what in the world is THAT???" I have always said that it is an old Icelandic magical stave that I wear as a salute to my Scandinavian roots and as a reminder to myself not to stray from my path in life. If I get a blank stare then I just stop right there unless they want to know more.
I have one in the back of my vest and people always think it's a Viking symbol and I tell them no it's an Icelandic sigil but came way after the Viking age. Some people get upset that that cool symbol isint Viking but I hate missinformation so I'ma just bluntly say what it is even if it upsets people
I got one on my arm as the gentleman says “will not get lost through storms and bad weather” stay on the right path!
I’m half Celtic half Viking
My Celtic surname means guardian of the sea!
@gabemore1766 you can't be half viking...
How awesome that you are talking about this too, I just did a video 3 days ago talking about the same thing! Weird coincidence. I will watch and see your take on it! Thank you.
As a Swede I thank you for your work and your skepticism.
It's very important to know this little facts because the misconceptions of old norse culture are currently everywhere.
You are an absolute treasure Mr. Crawford for clearing these, to most people, muddy and strange perception of what these runes and sigils mean.
You "skepticism" and practical stance when looking at these things is exactly what I miss in so much of the talk about the old cultures, so I appreciate your work greatly for that reason.
It is so difficult to dive deeper into these subject through some channels, because it very quickly plunges into the (to me tremendously uninteresting) depths of mysticism; and the contrast of your academic approach is ever-refreshing!
Tack så oerhört mycket!
Honestly the fact that some of the old writing for any language or civilization are just shopping lists, notes to remember things or just letters to friends or family makes history all the more real. No matter the age people were people who had lives, hopes, dreams and just the normal day to day stuff like needing to remember what to get at the market. It's a shame the language wasn't more preserved so the memory of those people could live on abit longer. That is one thing I dearly love about old Norse or "viking" culture is how you are remembered like they knew the closest thing to immortality you can get is to leave memories with those you leave behind.
I was on an archaeological dig one time and my favorite thing I ever found was a smooth rock. There were no rivers near by meaning somebody, probably a kid, picked up a smooth rock by a river and brought it home. It was a small stone so it wouldn’t have had use beyond a trinket.
It had no real archaeological value and nobody would ever do anything with them but to me it was always one of the coolest finds. That somebody 2500 years ago thought it was cool.
@@Dougy359 did you keep the rock?
I refuse to except this because my tattoo looks to cool!
Great video Dr. Crawford. Great way to start the day. Thank you!
There is a group I’m in on Facebook and this video was shared to it. And let me just tell you you’ve got a lot of ppl heart broke on that page 😂😂😂😂
The fact you stood in the cold to give us this video is much appreciated
Greetings from Colorado Springs. I appreciate your pragmatic view of runes and all things Old Norse. I have not done near enough research, but it always made more sense to me that the runic letters were used like an alphabet is used today.
Very informative, I absolutely love how in depth you go into these subjects. Keep up the amazing work!
Thanks for the video in the freezing cold snowy mountains.
How do you always have the most picturesque filming locations, geez! Love the content as usual
Just another idea caused by things that have been said. Our alphabet could be said to have power to save lives, because they are used to convey life saving concepts, or can bring to mind "magically" things that been forgotten, or cause certain sounds over long times or distances, the record the same sound! Dang it, the Roman alphabet is magical, too. 😀
One of the oldest concepts, knowledge is power and a man who could write/record when many couldn't would indeed be considered magical/wise/powerful or similar.
The Latin alphabet, as well as the Greek and Hebrew alphabets, have long been associated with church ritual or apotropaic "magic". They were f.e. used during the dedication of churches in a ritual known as the abecedarium (where the bishop writes the Alphabet in sand or with holy water). There are also some medieval abecedarium inscriptions to be found in German churches. Scholars assume that the inscribed Latin or Greek alphabet was thought to have apotropaic power, meaning having the power to repulse evil.
That's the power of squiggles!
@@maxgruntgens9000 that comes from the idea that Latin, Greek and Hebrew were consecrated by the blood of Christ during his crucifixion.
Dr. Crawford your expertise and opinion on these subjects are highly valuable and highly appreciated by all of us with good sense. Keep shooting us straight, Sir, your message is heard.
Cant wait until future peoples find the english phonetic military alphabet and assume F stands for dancing
As someone who is interested in the Viking age and Norse mythology, I’m extremely happy to have found this channel.
Very much appreciate your knowledge and expertise (and skepticism) on this. Thank you for another wonderful video!
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. My husband and I have been researching this for about 2 weeks trying to find any actual historical documentation. We found none of course. Historical accuracy is important to us, especially with our tattoos. We appreciate you.
I hope your channel keeps growing, blessings
12:45 "I will continue to try to shoot as straight with y'all as I do at intruders in my residence" lmao
I almost quit my patreonship because of that. Maybe it's just a culture shock.
@@zejo65 Yeah, that comment felt kind of strange. Maybe he's had trouble with people trying to find where he lives? It's a problem a lot of RUclipsrs face, so I get it, but it came across as jarring since it was unexpected in this context. People who live in rural areas need to take a different set of precautions since law enforcement or even just help in general is much further away than in suburban or urban areas.
@@zejo65 its just dry middle-aged American humor. don't worry about it he wasn't serious.
I have both tattoos. I know they are modern sigils, which is wonderful, because I am a modern human! They still bring me meaning. Humanity is always changing, and it is more fascinating to think modern people had enough curiosity to try to come up with something new is cool as heck. I love science and history.
Thank you for all the incredible work you have done on the Norse topic Dr. Crawford. I have subscribed to your channel for a few years. I appreciate that you keep information accurate and accessible. We all have our beliefs but knowing the truth of your past helps with understanding why history took the course it did. Also with how people viewed and interacted with each other. Thank you again for all the hard work everyone on this channel does. Skol!
Greetings from south eastern AZ it's a cold rainy day here but man looking at your weather chilled me to the bone. Very informative video thank you Mr Crawford
Its funny, the etymology for Vegvisir you present made me immediately realise the cognate words survive in my own native language (Afrikaans) and thus a cognate focused translation of vegvisir into Afrikaans would be 'Wegwyser', 'Weg' an antiquated word for road mostly used in words like 'Snelweg' (highway) as well as a word meaning _away_ and 'wyser' literally someone or something that shows. Very interesting!
Well it's all germanic languages..which is why English, scandanavian, German, French, ect. Have so much in common
Absolutely love your videos. You’ve cultivated an absolute obsession in me. Can’t get enough of your videos and books. Thanks for all your great work.
I have been trying to explain exactly this to my friends and acquaintances for the last 8 years! I'm so glad you made this video!!!!!!
Cheers Jackson. Always appreciate your work, Sir.
Just found this channel. Amazing information. Also the setting is so peaceful. Can we get a snowy night camp fire story segment this coming winter?
Was that ending... Who tried to go there uninvited?
@Jackson Crawford - You earned my subscription with this video. I’ll be going through the rest of your catalogue catalogue because of it.
So glad I've found your channel! My current historical fiction novel is set in 12th C Viking Orkney and has a crucial scene in Maeshowe - the prehistoric burial chamber where 12th C Vikings wrote runic graffiti on the walls - so I've been studying those particular runes and figuring out the story for a few years now. Lovely to fact check against your expertise. Thank you.
That opener..nice
I'd like to see an episode about some of the "non-canon" or "hoax" Eddas that may have been written in the 1600s like the Hrafnagaldr Óðins
Those would be fanfiction, like the biblical apocrypha, but that does not make them any less true than original scriptures like the Granth or the Book of Mormon.
@@faithlesshound5621 By the same token, that doesn’t make them any more ‘true’ at all.
@@senacht "Truth" is not an attribute of fiction. It's up to us whether we choose to suspend our disbelief while hearing, reading or watching it. Doing so gives us an emotional work-out. Afterwards, we may recollect those emotions in tranquillity, but there's no point in looking for Camelot or Hogwarts on the map.
Thank you, Jackson. You do such great work.
Your integrity is delightful and greatly appreciated. Good upon you JC.
Den der intro var faktisk fantastisk. Jeg kan ikke stoppe med at grine. Det var så uventet fra en person, som kalder sig selv for en "teknologisk neandertaler", hvis jeg husker rigtigt.
Heh… «grine». 😅 Morsomt hvordan norsk og dansk har det samme ordet for to så veldig forskjellige betydninger.
Samtidig som vi bruker nedertysk alle sammen. Språk er gøy! …eller «sjovt». 😊
@@binker__nor9907 Both are actually correct. In Old Norse "grina" means to show teeth as a reaction eg grin, laugh or cry. In modern times, this has become grin/laugh in Danish, Swedish and in fact English. In Norwegian, this has turned into crying. In German, they have the related variant "greinen" which means to whine.
@@Hvitserk67 Swedish contains both meanings. Grina is laugh/smile in the south and southwest, but it means cry/whine in the rest of the country. It can cause some confusion (or more likely amusement). Grina illa means to make a pained face.
@@binker__nor9907 Ja, det er faktisk ret "gøy", heh. Men der er en forskel på "at grine", altså verbet, og "et grin" altså substantivet, som godt kan betyde grimasse i en mere bred forståelse. F.eks. hun havde et fælt grin.
@@Hvitserk67 And the English "cringe" is likely related to this "greinen", though I must confess that my understanding of German is rather poor.
Vegvisir sounds very similar to the German "Wegweiser", which literally means "way/path guide/marker" (or signpost as the direct translation)
I just finished your audiobook of the poetic edda, and now I find out you have a youtube channel... I look forward to continued learning.
How you pronounce Icelandic words is impressive and your knowledge even more so. My hats off to you good sir!
I'm not a believer in magic in any supernatural sense, though I'm super fascinated by magic systems. However, I'm also an amateur linguist, and I watch your channel mainly for that purpose. As far as I can tell, you're the most expert person around on Norse runes, language and literature. So it is baffling to me when I hear/read presumed heathens disclaiming your knowledge on the basis that you don't hold the cultural beliefs that they are trying to emulate.
Anyway, keep up the good work.
i think its more than positive when a scholar keep behaving as a scholar, believer or not.
Having "religious faith" on the matter of your study can lead to interesting points of view, but it can also bring some bias on your research
@@regnbuetorsk The same can easily be said for those who are disbelievers/anti-theists. Inherent bias is not a one-way street
@@chuckn4851 Agnosticism is a thing.
It's natural. Many Christians get very upset with historians who aren't talking about Jesus as being a deity. Religion gets people in their passions.
Gotta say 1860 was legit shocking, I'd heard it wasn't as old as people act but dang that's nuts. Great video thanks for making it. "It can't find it's way back to the Viking age" got a good laugh
Thank you for this upload.
I love your channel you always have interesting content and beautiful scenery!
I never understood when people talk about the "obvious" visual similarity between these two staves and the runes, because they seem far more similar visually to various sigils found in Early Modern Christian European Occult texts. Like you say, the only real similarity seems to be that they use straight lines a lot, but given how many runic inscriptions feature curved lines I don't think even that can really be called a particular similarity, and any that does exist may just speak to a shared medium (perhaps these particular sigils were intended to be carved in wood moreso than writtern on something and so became more angular)
Yes most that survived time were carved in stone, wood and bone, therefore very straight edged. Anything fancier would have rotted away long ago.
@@SkogarmaorFeder I'm talking about surviving runestones. Most of those runes feature curved branches. Straight branches are more common in inscriptions on wood, bone, or antler which survive less well
I have the Vegesir tattooed on my back...I knew when and where it is from when I decided to get the tattoo. I have it because it is Icelandic. Because I like Iceland. The Icelanders seem to not mind it. I travel a lot. I prefer not getting lost. I never did care about the Viking-ness at all
Well said, and I'm planning on getting mine soon for the reason of I LOVE ICELAND and maybe too about helping me find my way along my winding path of life....
@@jenniferahillesheim2285 mine does have dragon heads on either side and a interlacing flame above. Need some light if you wanna go where " there be dragons" 😉
That shot behind you is breathtaking. That's a blessing there.
Great video with magical view in the background. 👍
When I decided to get a viking tattoo to commemorate my 'Viking Hiking' in Norway, I researched a lot of supposed symbols that turned out to be more-or-less modern garbage. I ended up getting a stylized version of a urnes-style beast from an existent runestone.
Vegvisir sounds similar to the German word "Wegweiser", which is contemporary referring to any kind of sign, showing the way to a location.
Perfectly delivered video, I think I'll sub
Dr Crawford throwing some shade in the text overlays in the beginning. I’m here for it.
"Let a man carry these staves on himself. The man will not get lost in storms, or bad weather. Even if he is not acquainted."
I have this Sigil tattooed on my shin. Got it shortly after my divorce. I was lost, in a storm you might say. Didn't know which way to go. It's meant to remind me that no matter how bad it gets, there will always be a calm after the storm.
Good video, well-spoken. The so-called vegvisir bears uncanny resemblance to some of the sigils associated with the seal of Solomon, which has its origins in medieval western mysticism and beyond into the esoteric. None the less I've seen this one and the helm of awe on the shields of viking larpers who are otherwise pretty knowledgeable and serious about what they do. Maybe it's just because they like it. Keep up the good work Jackson.
Great video sir. So much info to take in.
I got a tattoo of this…just because my favorite Icelandic singer Björk had one. Still love it
Yep! Best reason yet.
You may not believe in magic, but where you live is certainly magical!
I like how you brought up contemporary restaurant signs that use fonts to instill in the patrons a sense of authenticity, and then the [comparatively] modern grimoires that try to sell their authenticity with viking fonts on symbols not remotely of older ages. People have a long history of making a buck by selling a notion of an idea.
Magic is the technology of the gods. A light switch is magic to a 3 year old child. Just because we don't understand the technology, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The gods work in coincidences and they surely are magic, or at least mini miracles if we are paying attention to them. IMHO, Great video and explanation, thank you.
Thank You for this video!!! 🤠👍
Hear, hear! Thanks, Dr. Jackson!
A sigil/ stave for magical/ ceremonial/ esoteric purposes is wholly appropriate in classifying the Vegvisir and the like, certainly part of the "new age" (totally agree with the time period and it's relation to the practices as well) revivalism aspect of the old beliefs/ old ways. Well said sir, love your work and what you're doing to expand our understanding.
Number 11 here, then… Nope, your channel is making a difference. I’m here (strange way to put it…) because I like to learn. And you’re scientific about language. I’m hearing phrases/words and can compare that to my dialect (which is dying out) and get an understanding of why I use certain words and phrases. Strange to get that insight from an American, but still very interesting.
Btw, my brother has *one* tattoo and it says, in capital letters, “tatovering» (Norwegian). He’s a sceptic like me - and a metalhead… 😏
Thank you! This is the first video of yours I have seen. Its important to know the truth about our past to be able to see forward.
Thankful for your content 🙏🙏🙏
So is the Rune Poem more like "A is for Apple, B is for Banana" rather than actually ascribing traits to the runes themselves?
Exactly. The structure is the name of the rune and a short poetic sentence associated to it.
I think one should see rune poems more as a mnemonic device, to better remember the names/sounds of the runes, more than a sort of magical formula thing
Kind of, but the Rune names were a lot more standardized than those names. They are mostly consistent for over a thousand years in all countries that use them.
You sir, are a damned national treasure.
Came for the hat stayed for the lesson. As a history buff turned LARPer and outdoors man I appreciate your entire style and teaching method.
I knew you where in Colorado based off the mountains first time on youre channel I love it
thx for your macro view of "norse magic", have you talked about ratatoskr?=> i love squirrels :)
Up the tree, down the tree carrying gossip and insults.
ha! thats funny! hes like the monkey, in chuck berry's song, Jo Jo Gun
Thank you for making this video, I can't believe how many people have "viking" tattoos and it's just a bunch of galdrastafir. Like come on people. No one bothers to research anything anymore.
I’ve been doing tattoos for over 20 years I can assure you they never did
It's not like people does not research, but to be honest, some information is not as easy to find. Ive been trying to learn about Norse mythology and viking age, but it's hard to find a website that I can trust 100% when there are so many misinformation everywhere
Excellent video. I have a modest business making norse shields and weapon/armor mounts for HEMA/SCA/LARP/Reenactments/etc. Naturally I like to incorporate norse/dane designs in my work. You've done a remarkable job contextualizing historical points here. I've subscribed and will be binging the rest of your content. Thanks!
Just found your channel, enjoyed the video. Subbed.
Thank you for this. Ive had some heated discussions about this matter with many people. Takk kærlega fyrir þitt framlag. Have have you made an video about the stave Ægishjálmur? Mbk Ívar
Yes. I believe he has a card for it in this video when he mentions it.
He opens the video explaining his video about the ægishjálmur.
At first I was confused about why you would think people would be upset that the symbol was not Viking age... then you mentioned the tattoos. Yet another reason to double check images before you get them injected into your skin.
Thank you for this!! It’s so hard, where I live, to try to get others to understand the actual truths of what you speak.
Great content, but also can’t get over how much like Montana this looks. Beautiful 🤘🏻
Dr. Crawford, would you ever consider doing a video where you react/review an episode of the show "Vinland Saga"? The show is an animated show from Japan based on a comic series of the same name which follows a fictionalize account of Thorfinn Karlsefni, including a fictionalized back story and his real life travels to Vinland. The show has so far only adapted the first arc of the comic, which acts as a prologue of sorts and is set during the last stages of the Viking incursions/war in England and the ascension of King Cnut to the throne. It would be very interesting to see your reaction to the depictions of Norse life and culture as depicted in the series.
I have the Vegvisir as a tattoo. I like how it looks and I like the meaning of "Don't get lost in the storms"
That being said, I knew that there was a very good chance that it wasn't "old viking" cause my understanding was that a lot of what written down was written down and preserved with a Christian lens. However I did not know just how new this sigil was. That's an extremely interesting fact for me.
It's newer than the United States. Lmao
Leading with your credentials is very much appreciated.
I absolutely love how the discussion is on old norse stuff and the music is all guitars with slight reverb and jaw harp.