4 years of Honkai's meta DPS compiled into a bar race - What did you miss?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 май 2021
  • After watching this done from another game I felt that I wanted to do it for Honkai since I'm familiar with how everything played out since the beginning. (Actually just since the release of SEA but they had temperature abyss from the start I believe). The chart is made with flourish if you want to make one yourself. flourish.studio/
    If you're wondering how I decided the numbers, from the beginning the numbers were actually based on videos based on a 5-7ish second damage window, considered that abyss had multiple mobs to fight you can multiply that by around 6. The thing is, due to the temperature system mobs will also get stronger, and eventually when you consider things like MA, and the fact that mobbing is no longer an issue...
    It's near impossible to actually do something like this with "accurate" numbers, so a lot of it after around CH release is scuffed and mostly symbolic. The point is to show what was found to be the best DPS valkyrie at that specific time/patch. It focuses much more on abyss, which is why you won't see dominance from valkyries such as VD, BB, or BN which would have topped the MA charts. But I put some consideration for MA so you could at least see them on there for a bit.
    After the Superstring abyss came out, the valkyries rating/number is completely dependent on the amount of weathers they topped for that specific patch, with some bonuses based on the memorial bosses that showed up. We've reached a point in the game where Valkyries' strength can only determine so much - the strength of a valkyrie is moreso dependent on what weather Mihoyo delivers on that specific patch, so that's why you may see more drastic shifts there.
    I decided to not include Haxxor Bunny's update since I haven't experienced it personally.
    Most of the ancient clips are from the following bilibili channels:
    1. space.bilibili.com/653768/video
    2. space.bilibili.com/43222001/v...
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Комментарии • 1,8 тыс.

  • @eertikrux666
    @eertikrux666 3 года назад +6555

    Me *who never play honkai seriously and just spam random buttons* : interesting

    • @ttt5205
      @ttt5205 3 года назад +1412

      Let's be honest, you'd get quite far into the game by literally just doing that

    • @eertikrux666
      @eertikrux666 3 года назад +135

      @@ttt5205 true

    • @tricellarrectangle8619
      @tricellarrectangle8619 3 года назад +387

      Ah, someone I can relate to, cheers

    • @bagusdoang1075
      @bagusdoang1075 3 года назад +406

      random bullshit goo

    • @OneFinalAutumn
      @OneFinalAutumn 3 года назад +753

      Yeah, I don't even read the skills. I just pick characters who look cool when they use their ult.

  • @godslayer5571
    @godslayer5571 3 года назад +6110

    Every Herrscher release- GAS GAS GAS!

  • @haveagoodday7021
    @haveagoodday7021 3 года назад +5322

    Herrescher: Gets released
    Tier List: I AM SPEED

    • @kyotheman69
      @kyotheman69 3 года назад +83

      they all stayed up there except void who pretty much dropped off the map

    • @Ghos1y
      @Ghos1y 3 года назад +97

      @@kyotheman69 sadly bcz she is the oldest. Ohh well still waiting for her to be updated cz I love her

    • @moonbyeol9130
      @moonbyeol9130 3 года назад +31

      @@Ghos1y Same! I really love playstyle of Void. I'm playing HoR the most lately and I still don't know what I'm doing, but dmg is there so idc much. But I don't really enjoy playing this way. I want HoV back in the meta, she's my fav valk right after NS.

    • @komi_san_luvcat2930
      @komi_san_luvcat2930 3 года назад +4

      @@kyotheman69 that because the drop rate for s rank valk at time was really horrible (although it not as bad as fgo)

    • @DKOIsoul
      @DKOIsoul 3 года назад +9

      I still use hov so much regardless on what other people say. Idk what the meta is since I'm just playing who I enjoy. I'm officially a Bronie main now and instantly bought her outfit when it released.
      Hov's attacks look so cool anyway especially the snap.

  • @hershyijustshatmyself9253
    @hershyijustshatmyself9253 3 года назад +5892

    *Every DPS character introduction -* detailed and explained extremely well
    Dea Anchora:

    • @CosmoOfTheKramers
      @CosmoOfTheKramers 3 года назад +697

      Fits in well with her bland personality lmao

    • @TPixelAdventures
      @TPixelAdventures 3 года назад +792

      BKE: *flops
      > MIHOYO WILL REMEMBER THIS
      Dea Anchora: ???????

    • @ryanramadhan2116
      @ryanramadhan2116 3 года назад +158

      @@CosmoOfTheKramers basically a queen personality

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 3 года назад +100

      keeb hates DA for some reason, you can see it every time she comes up in his vids

    • @sou.p
      @sou.p 3 года назад +180

      @@TheHerrMan Because she's annoying, niche, Durandal has no personality to begin with, and people who don't want to waste their time on her's Rimestar scores are shit

  • @maoriin7079
    @maoriin7079 3 года назад +4488

    I just love how when there's any herrecher character got released they're auto in first rank. 😂😂

    • @arrowup8711
      @arrowup8711 3 года назад +489

      To be fair, they're quite literally *gods*

    • @chandrawardana6620
      @chandrawardana6620 3 года назад +311

      Well if herrscher is not that good mihoyo wont get any money from us 😂😂😂

    • @tastykimchiOFDOOM
      @tastykimchiOFDOOM 3 года назад +74

      Mobage companies are able to control the meta to boost sales using whatever methods they can.

    • @ORVRUINEDMYLIFE
      @ORVRUINEDMYLIFE 3 года назад +2

      Lol same

    • @naberu
      @naberu 3 года назад +33

      Isn't it that so you have to spend a lot, again, to build a fresh valkyrie to fit the new meta? It's a tried and true strategy to get more money, keep things fresh and add longevity to the game.

  • @ShiiTsuu
    @ShiiTsuu 3 года назад +2450

    Fuhua players: "ah yes, our girl is never disappointed us"

    • @panjimartiandaru3081
      @panjimartiandaru3081 3 года назад +152

      Yep, she never betray our trust ☺️👍🏼

    • @icerink239
      @icerink239 3 года назад +90

      true, our girl has never disappointed us.

    • @charliezhang9815
      @charliezhang9815 3 года назад +147

      Have fun in Fuhua Impact 3rd, guys XD

    • @solomu8772
      @solomu8772 3 года назад +8

      Fu Hua is not a girl. You guys are all confused.

    • @rakafirmansyah1716
      @rakafirmansyah1716 3 года назад +99

      Fu hua is f2p meta

  • @chosan8250
    @chosan8250 3 года назад +2685

    Everytime Mihoyo release new valk
    Mihoyo: i think i forgot something
    Player: if you forgot, then it wasn't important
    Mihoyo: yeah, you're right
    Kallen: *crying in the corner

    • @butterflycheese8453
      @butterflycheese8453 2 года назад +28

      Noo ;-;

    • @Sakuramoch1__
      @Sakuramoch1__ 2 года назад +457

      Liliya: wait, you guys have more than 1 battlesuit?

    • @-qiqi-1579
      @-qiqi-1579 2 года назад +266

      @@Sakuramoch1__ rozalya: wait, that exist?

    • @cheesec4kecat
      @cheesec4kecat 2 года назад +28

      Mihoyo gave ritual lmao kallen a buff

    • @BrenoGF144
      @BrenoGF144 2 года назад +81

      @@-qiqi-1579 tbf it'd be hard to implement the twin's mechanics (combined combo/ult and their QTEs) while making new battlesuits for them

  • @pakuro64
    @pakuro64 3 года назад +1693

    The moment your favorite valk appear on the bottom of the list and you start "go little one, GOOOOOOO!"
    Then a new Herrscher is released and you never see your beloved valk again....

    • @HienNguyen-in6rr
      @HienNguyen-in6rr 3 года назад +101

      that's hurt. I'm still love Sakura Memento a lot

    • @pakuro64
      @pakuro64 3 года назад +35

      @BegissoR - Touhou Metal&EDM
      If I had to chose one thing I regret not doing on honkai, it is not leveling my asuka to SSS.
      She is so good and fun man :X

    • @joshuamartin2069
      @joshuamartin2069 3 года назад +89

      Unless you a Fu Hua fan, because Fu Hua will ALWAYS be meta

    • @Narukami930
      @Narukami930 3 года назад +21

      Man, i remember when i started honkai on the 3.9 and when Durandal came out i struggled to get her, at the end of the day, i got her, all those crystal spent on her were so fucking worth.

    • @pakuro64
      @pakuro64 3 года назад +11

      @BegissoR【東方Metal&EDM】
      I "trashed" about 31k to get her full set, weapon and SS, so 12k for her SSS isnt that bad xD
      (It took a looong time to pull the stigma set :X)

  • @valentinodelapena7699
    @valentinodelapena7699 3 года назад +5111

    I miss that HoV supremacy. now we're second class citizens. they even gave her out for free knowing nothing would change

    • @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves
      @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves 3 года назад +466

      I still use my HoV a lot. I'm also keenly aware that I'll never retain in RL and have accepted that I usually stay in Agony2/3.

    • @oblivion9584
      @oblivion9584 3 года назад +383

      I love her design and personality almost as much as I love her playstyle so even if I might have better characters she is not getting put on the sidelines ever.

    • @francis771
      @francis771 3 года назад +146

      ive been playing since theresa release, and i can tell you because of hov the game became so unbalanced where no hov requires good luck to avoid certain groups of people in red lotus. I hope mihoyo will never create such an unbalanced meta ever again, that was one of the worst experience.

    • @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves
      @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves 3 года назад +262

      @@oblivion9584 HoV is just so ridiculously simple, I love it. I don't need to remember an entire tekken combo unlike for Delta.

    • @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves
      @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves 3 года назад +104

      @@francis771 I think miHoYo will always fail to fairly balance the game. Look at Delta and HoT.

  • @anapaulapedro7025
    @anapaulapedro7025 3 года назад +2334

    The way every Herrscher is meta except for HoV 😭 poor Kiana

    • @anapaulapedro7025
      @anapaulapedro7025 3 года назад +128

      I guess now the new bonus for ranged characters give her a leg up

    • @myatthu7165
      @myatthu7165 3 года назад +149

      Well,after completely eating the entire game meta for half a year and making half of all f2p players completely rage quit the game,I think she pretty much deserves it.

    • @ihavenoidea4317
      @ihavenoidea4317 3 года назад +54

      @@foreverunnoticed5351 bruh she's still op af wdym buff her up

    • @SomsoKca
      @SomsoKca 3 года назад +4

      Poor Himiko!

    • @ihavenoidea4317
      @ihavenoidea4317 3 года назад +59

      @@farzbz987 Today's meta is pulverizing bosses in 0.1 seconds.

  • @Rasti__
    @Rasti__ 3 года назад +2259

    Did I just see Judah listed as it's own character?
    ...
    10/10, clearly perfectly accurate list.

    • @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves
      @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves 3 года назад +264

      Judah is the strongest valkyrie there is after all o7

    • @damn1580
      @damn1580 3 года назад +223

      I mean Valkryie Pledge isn't even a Valk without Judah right?

    • @superfuzzball
      @superfuzzball 3 года назад +51

      I'm so used to it, I didn't even bat an eye until I saw your comment

    • @Force200888
      @Force200888 3 года назад +45

      Same here, I want to laugh at this joke but then I realize it is too accurate to laugh at...

    • @blank3764
      @blank3764 3 года назад +32

      @@damn1580 wym VP was the judah support lmao

  • @vilongngo5529
    @vilongngo5529 3 года назад +636

    I miss those times when Gyakushinn Miko could solo clear the abyss

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 3 года назад +51

      holding my breath for her PRI and Augment to restore the glory. I still have her OG exclusive black outfit

    • @referencepoint1042
      @referencepoint1042 3 года назад +1

      @@TheHerrMan She is getting pri and augment confirmed ?

    • @witchluisamultifandom1212
      @witchluisamultifandom1212 2 года назад

      @@TheHerrMan So? Where augment

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 2 года назад

      @@witchluisamultifandom1212 I know right!!!

    • @mayoofm6049
      @mayoofm6049 2 года назад

      one of my fav valk back then

  • @maoriin7079
    @maoriin7079 3 года назад +676

    I have been playing honkai since the begining and I remember Yae was super popular character that time. And there's only Bronya, Kiana and Mei character that time. Wow time fly so fast.

    • @hanekawayui5514
      @hanekawayui5514 3 года назад +63

      I remember getting back to the game last year and was so lost because there was so much content that I missed.

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 3 года назад +23

      these characters are so 'spensive then 2 years later they give them out for free as new player rewards.

    • @PanRobak.
      @PanRobak. 3 года назад +3

      Wasn't there Himeko from the beginning as well?

    • @feather563
      @feather563 2 года назад +3

      @@PanRobak. no but she was there for global when it released of china

    • @succicucci
      @succicucci 2 года назад

      Yeahhh Yae Miko with Void Blade + YA + Mjolnir. Also Missile stacking with VC with Schrodinger T and DXY M + SD was Meta too

  • @gilgameshlfx7006
    @gilgameshlfx7006 3 года назад +824

    What we learn from this?
    Every OP character from new release will be nerfed to the point they are useless, in order to sell more gacha.
    The end?

    • @SM-cq1mm
      @SM-cq1mm 3 года назад +221

      And then a few months later they get buffed to the point where they become broken and then Mihoyo releases more power creep material that makes the newly broken characters, redundant

    • @nurhariyanto5438
      @nurhariyanto5438 3 года назад +21

      @@SM-cq1mm : ehem.. abyss flower.. cough..

    • @PanRobak.
      @PanRobak. 3 года назад +83

      That's called powercreep. And gacha isn't the only area where it's prevalent.

    • @mapmakerlich
      @mapmakerlich 3 года назад +3

      Or stay alive even after breaking half of his kit.
      *looks on Angra Mainyu in Dx2?

    • @coolossooloc9358
      @coolossooloc9358 3 года назад +7

      Really sad but they're not useless

  • @Theetis
    @Theetis Год назад +44

    the fact that the A-rank Seele has been always performing better than Stygian Nymph, a newer S-rank... shit's wild man

  • @zargonan
    @zargonan 3 года назад +581

    Every good meta was a fu hua meta. The only valk that could knock ns out of the meta was an even stronger hua.

    • @minhucpham1915
      @minhucpham1915 3 года назад +104

      Same go for Phoenix as a elemental supporter. At this moment the 2 most important valks are AE and HoS. Fu Hua impact going strong

    • @raiden1889
      @raiden1889 3 года назад +88

      Well what did u expect she is a Chinese Theme Valk, if she were weaker than any Valks the CN players will riot.🤷🏻‍♂️ my opinion is based on the “current situation”

    • @joshuamartin2069
      @joshuamartin2069 3 года назад +73

      To be fair, Mihoyo's handling of Fu Hua's power in the game is great. She is a great example of how to handle a fan favoriete character. She's always meta, has her perks and can always be depended on in a pinch.

    • @adielpratapahandoko6204
      @adielpratapahandoko6204 3 года назад +16

      @@raiden1889 ngl that statement is kinda racist.

    • @xLycorus
      @xLycorus 3 года назад +74

      @@adielpratapahandoko6204 not when it's completely true, just look at the ridiculous drama the chinese players created on honkai and genshin

  • @reapervalentin9167
    @reapervalentin9167 3 года назад +503

    So Much History In One Video...

  • @Neji4230
    @Neji4230 3 года назад +477

    Kinda funny to see how SP was almost always over SN in the leaderbord

    • @ultimate1450
      @ultimate1450 3 года назад +94

      because this is mostly about abyss which means mobbing, SN is more bossing oriented, if it was MA she would be over SP by a huge margin

    • @nagaito10
      @nagaito10 3 года назад +39

      It bis because SN is one shot valk made for mobs and MA
      SN needed rotations for abyss boss
      But now with PtA Pri arm she can handle RL physical/ quantum bosses

    • @amplesstratleholm7609
      @amplesstratleholm7609 3 года назад +34

      SP also has a ridiculous passive that is bonus damage if the target is impaired, on top of the impair itself, so as long as you can get past the SP requirement (Dirac B), it's gucci

    • @Neji4230
      @Neji4230 3 года назад +4

      @@ultimate1450 Ah yeah, i forgot i wasn't able to read the text he left for like 20s at the beggining of the videos, silly me.... Dude, I know it was an Abyss oriented leaderboard lmao, I'm not the brightest guy on earth but I know at least how to read xD

    • @aldyzero6676
      @aldyzero6676 3 года назад +7

      @@amplesstratleholm7609 yeah, full build SP is rediculously strong when she pop her burst mode

  • @taihuynhanh1332
    @taihuynhanh1332 3 года назад +661

    This brought back a lot of memories actually...

    • @dankerdoens8414
      @dankerdoens8414 3 года назад +11

      Ahh.... that hard days :)

    • @taihuynhanh1332
      @taihuynhanh1332 3 года назад +7

      Also so much fun~

    • @hello_MeNutty
      @hello_MeNutty 3 года назад +6

      I cant believe I actually havent missed that much since I started playing one patch before HoV's first release.

    • @denzelgonzales3854
      @denzelgonzales3854 3 года назад +1

      I hope they bring back the bleed mechanic (like the very first abyss) Right now, the gameplay in lv 81+ is just about strong dps. Doesn't even require that much brain cells. You just need a very OP valk and then you good to go.

    • @taihuynhanh1332
      @taihuynhanh1332 3 года назад +1

      @@denzelgonzales3854 i agree, but abyss is made based on meta, so f2p people have to find a way to survive, that's cost brain cells too~

  • @joestarjoestar1020
    @joestarjoestar1020 3 года назад +375

    Let us all appreciate the amount of effort that went into this video. All the research done and adding the correct music and audio clips at the appropriate time. Great work man. I really enjoyed this. I'm subscribing to this channel.

    • @findingjapanartist9836
      @findingjapanartist9836 3 года назад +1

      It really is
      The music is so pair up with HK game itself and the char voice with cuts scene plus a lot of HK history written in less than 10 minutes
      Parfecto videou

  • @e.bthepirate9783
    @e.bthepirate9783 2 года назад +138

    And to this day, Herrscher of Sentience still haunts the meta

    • @sentiiscoolthenyou5493
      @sentiiscoolthenyou5493 Год назад +2

      Yet they will never buff hov again

    • @mbdromar7358
      @mbdromar7358 Год назад +2

      Wait till new physical support and see what will happen to her

    • @giunnie1206
      @giunnie1206 Год назад +8

      @@mbdromar7358 she still on top meta, Susannah can do nothing lmao Yatta always is the Meta

    • @e-mk1fy
      @e-mk1fy 10 месяцев назад

      @@mbdromar7358 SEELE IS NOW HERRSCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @mbdromar7358
      @mbdromar7358 10 месяцев назад

      @@giunnie1206 i said a support not dps🗿

  • @eccliasse9861
    @eccliasse9861 3 года назад +111

    Everyone: *supporting herrschers*
    Me: Go! Judah Go!

  • @chaule3076
    @chaule3076 3 года назад +375

    I think this game is not Honkai Impact anymore, is Fu Hua impact
    Our girl never disappointed us

  • @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves
    @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves 3 года назад +294

    Man, remember when Mei was loved and Himeko was viable..

    • @gesmonds2330
      @gesmonds2330 3 года назад +30

      I still use Bladestrike/Stygian Nymph(depends on enemy) as main dps and starlit and shadow dash(augment) for her support. Still love Mei!

    • @gesmonds2330
      @gesmonds2330 3 года назад +2

      blood rose was too op that time,she was my first S unit

    • @Sixon6845
      @Sixon6845 3 года назад +2

      I'm still using BR and VK until now but holy hell, it's hard to sustain in the abyss with BR
      Good thing is BR still rocks in coop

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 3 года назад

      i was surprised af to see VT that high. was just mashing then

    • @sparking023
      @sparking023 3 года назад +3

      It was all nice and good until HoV appeared. Lore checks out

  • @michaellim2509
    @michaellim2509 3 года назад +96

    every choice you have made, has led you to this moment

  • @pugachan9928
    @pugachan9928 3 года назад +208

    Wait until we get Herscher of Fire Himeko and everything gets fucked over again.

    • @samuelelias5115
      @samuelelias5115 3 года назад +24

      I love Himeko so I would love that to happen, but I think Seele next herrshy

    • @hanna-rb8nh
      @hanna-rb8nh 3 года назад +32

      @@samuelelias5115 that would be unlikely rn ig? since starcasm nyx will be release on 4.8

    • @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
      @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 3 года назад +19

      @@hanna-rb8nh who knows... chapter 24 implies that there's a chance that Seele would awaken as a Herrscher...

    • @kaz7690
      @kaz7690 3 года назад +44

      As much as Himekos death was heartbreaking, I feel there’s little reason to bring her back. That would essentially reverse 99% of Kianas development as of so far. Kiana’s character has been brilliant so far, I hope Himeko’s death will continue being a motivation for her journey.

    • @judgement7007
      @judgement7007 3 года назад +17

      Himeko will return as the Herscherr of Destruction/Decimation because her battle suit, Vermillion knight: Eclipse, is a Divine key equipped with the core of Destruction which is the core of the Herscherr of Destruction of the Previous Era. Himeko will somehow receive the memories of the Himeko of the previous Era and will let the New Era Himeko control her new Herscherr powers.

  • @eiarsan
    @eiarsan 3 года назад +204

    You know you're an ancient player if you know how to execute Gyakushinn Miko's ulti properly.

    • @gesmonds2330
      @gesmonds2330 3 года назад +40

      3 slash pause 3 slash pause am i right?
      Edit: realized you are otto,, and i still hate you for everything that has happened to the girls

    • @eiarsan
      @eiarsan 3 года назад +34

      @@gesmonds2330 guess what? I still have the real Kiana in my basement.

    • @gesmonds2330
      @gesmonds2330 3 года назад +2

      @@eiarsan i know damnit hahahaha

    • @Jannat-hw3zu
      @Jannat-hw3zu 3 года назад +6

      @@eiarsan Let her out you simp >:(

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 3 года назад +3

      @@gesmonds2330 you better get her Sak Blossom and do it in 2

  • @vorlun2594
    @vorlun2594 3 года назад +115

    Me never caring about meta or even any mats since day 1 and just learned all the info from RUclips since mid 2020
    Oh boy how wrong I've been playing the game

    • @d1ac0de
      @d1ac0de 3 года назад +50

      please i can relate to this so much. i've been playing honkai for almost 3 years now and it was only LAST YEAR i found out that just because it's a 5 star stigmata, it doesn't mean it's the right one for the valk-

    • @1stDRAGonLINE
      @1stDRAGonLINE 3 года назад

      Been there dude play from day 1 up until hov is out and DP still my main go to valk for support and heal.

    • @MeiButterfly
      @MeiButterfly 3 года назад

      same, i just use my own combi/meta/gut feel to play this game. never looked up on meta or DPS unless i desperately need a method to clear a quest for event currency :(

    • @IchCharacter
      @IchCharacter 2 года назад +2

      You've been playing it the only right way, since this game is designed like a casino when it comes to the pvp stuff, drawing in poor sods that will become addicted and spend hundreds upon thousands of dollars, euros or whatever on it. The rewards for following the meta in terms of crystals for months can be earned in a few hours at work, but it takes a few hundred hours of work to pull all of the meta crap.

  • @Dragvon
    @Dragvon 3 года назад +214

    Now make a Support one and show CH's pinned at the top until HS hahaha

    • @fabbae215
      @fabbae215 3 года назад +36

      Man I always chuckle when people are making tier lists placing CH in her own tier called "CH tier"

    • @roissidiq672
      @roissidiq672 3 года назад +3

      And then ch still usefull even hos comes, and she can duet with hos

    • @IchCharacter
      @IchCharacter 2 года назад +4

      You mean the Fu Hua/Bronya tier list, featuring CH and FR?

  • @heisamonster
    @heisamonster 3 года назад +72

    Wow, watching Vermillion Knight rise through the rank to challenge HotV was such a call back to the story.
    Great content, brought back nice memories. This game was and is fantastic.

    • @gneuis
      @gneuis 2 года назад +1

      never let you go

    • @cacti5668
      @cacti5668 2 года назад +1

      @@gneuis PTSD intensifies

  • @zeroreroneppudding402
    @zeroreroneppudding402 3 года назад +34

    Even to this day, Herrschers of Tuna is still the longest standing Meta in Honkai. Nearly a whole year unequal

  • @cyberpheonix1440
    @cyberpheonix1440 3 года назад +163

    That's a bit scary how everything improved and how often meta was changing...I think I would never keep up with others so I will stay with my hor until they add another story where put her in hopeless situation AGAIN;_;

    • @aldyzero6676
      @aldyzero6676 3 года назад +31

      f2p and dolphins are always struggling to keep up with the meta, meta basically says "spend money or go die u freebies".

    • @mrluthfians01
      @mrluthfians01 Год назад

      tbh if you are comfy with agony and red lotus you should be fine, i skipped 10 patch cuz my phone cant handle it back then, now i cam still survive agony and rl

  • @kazunoee
    @kazunoee 2 года назад +59

    Starchasm and HoS: We are supreme
    Flame herrscher Kiana: Not so fast

    • @noot_noot23467
      @noot_noot23467 10 месяцев назад

      she might be the first herrscher to be able to fight airborne

  • @frozenyukimori
    @frozenyukimori 3 года назад +76

    It makes me happy to see Seele in the list lol, she's the main reason why I keep going back in the game and she carries me pretty much on the events. I quit a long time ago but came back after it was announced that she's coming in the game and she's given out for free. Now I came back again just a few days ago after I learnt Starcasm Nyx and chapter 23 which primarily focuses on Seele/Veliona will be released. SP is probably the valkyrie I put my most love and attention to and second is Yae's Miko
    But damn I was really happy when I somehow got HoR on the dorm supply thing when I returned in the game. SP is finally reunited with her Bronya-Onee-sama UwU

    • @aikashiaika182
      @aikashiaika182 9 месяцев назад

      how do u feel about horb and the salt snow holy city arc that was centered on her and veliona

  • @Albevibin
    @Albevibin 3 года назад +121

    Genshin impact players: *What are these?*

    • @ranni9536
      @ranni9536 3 года назад +34

      Honkai Players: These were the old days...

    • @Ken-df8cp
      @Ken-df8cp 2 года назад +7

      Well duh, this is a completely different meta

    • @butterflycheese8453
      @butterflycheese8453 2 года назад +12

      Me who's now both users
      Ah yes, I now understand these 2 impacts

    • @-qiqi-1579
      @-qiqi-1579 2 года назад +4

      @@butterflycheese8453 X2 we are powerfull

    • @ashy5808
      @ashy5808 2 года назад +16

      You mean Ganyu/Venti Impact players??
      In genshin the only meta character who can never be powercreeped is BOUKEN DA BOUKEN

  • @VanDungLe2510
    @VanDungLe2510 3 года назад +262

    Did... Did he... Did you just... release like... 3 videos in the span of 24hours... after you've gone for almost a months??

  • @903IDFOLEY
    @903IDFOLEY 3 года назад +52

    "Mihoyo will remember this!"
    Coming over from GI Eula's new trailer video, I somehow find these words bloody hilarious.

    • @arx48
      @arx48 3 года назад +1

      ikr. how long do you think she'll stay at the top of the lists?

  • @RbNoLife
    @RbNoLife 3 года назад +263

    I know this was meant for entertainment but it was super bittersweet for me. Seeing how much we’ve experienced as a player base really makes you appreciate these eras more.
    Something about hearing Edict of Twilight play for some reason hit my feels lmao I’m not sure why. Great video dude, this was a fun watch.

    • @TheKeebster
      @TheKeebster  3 года назад +28

      Yeah listening back to the song it really became my favorite song from all the trailers, v3.4 was a very good time.

    • @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves
      @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves 3 года назад +17

      honestly it's helped me appreciate miHoYo for their valkyrie designs. Some are downright broken, sure, but we've come such a long way since B rank Bronya, Mei and Kiana.

    • @RbNoLife
      @RbNoLife 3 года назад +17

      The entire 3.0-3.9 time in Honkai was awesome. It makes me wish I played even more when I remember I never finished some of those events. Personally, my favorite patch was 3.5
      I remember being online constantly during that point

    • @justpassingbye
      @justpassingbye 3 года назад +2

      @@RbNoLife same. the kevin introduction era was so cool

  • @fegito9206
    @fegito9206 3 года назад +96

    Mihoyo is like: "hey, you want stay competitive? purchase our new features"
    Oh yeah, v3.5 trailer bgm still banger

    • @raidentatsunoko
      @raidentatsunoko 3 года назад +2

      Dude that v3.5 theme is super good.
      V4.6 is also good

    • @Narukami930
      @Narukami930 3 года назад +1

      Whats the one at 4:38?

    • @haziq5943
      @haziq5943 3 года назад +1

      @@Narukami930 Theresa's theme for TP release

    • @Narukami930
      @Narukami930 3 года назад

      @@haziq5943 thx m8

  • @GiTWMe
    @GiTWMe 3 года назад +90

    After HoT release , everything is become very crazy competitive 🙂

    • @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves
      @Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves 3 года назад +10

      I began playing around the time Global was released (not on the actual release but a few months later) and honestly the pvp side of honkai has always been ridiculously competitive. In the days when Snowy was the king, it was almost a must to have her decked out just to retain in the lower parts of Agony because of the amount of people that couldn't retain RL on a weekly basis. Especially once you broke out of level 69 and into level 70. Like holy shit.
      But fond memories, nonetheless.

    • @Chironexe
      @Chironexe 2 года назад +2

      Herrscher of Teeth

  • @youyoumu
    @youyoumu 3 года назад +34

    It's very interesting because i started playing at SN patch and this video telling me what's happened in the past

  • @okularnik125
    @okularnik125 3 года назад +42

    Interesting fact. Global server speed run first 2 years of Honkai CN in 8 months

    • @zehel1058
      @zehel1058 3 года назад +10

      that's how western servers do business and then shutdown early. rather play at the main server

  • @DashSlasher901
    @DashSlasher901 3 года назад +12

    great video, love how you putted all in and with the music

  • @sudozax7cdyuukishio305
    @sudozax7cdyuukishio305 3 года назад +49

    No matter what happen, Momento always be my dps since her release.

    • @TheHerrMan
      @TheHerrMan 3 года назад +2

      grinding Meme to SSS since launch. 5 months left. my fav blue ele character

    • @user-bx9fv3uw8m
      @user-bx9fv3uw8m 2 года назад

      I started playing few months ago, and Memento was first who dropped from dorm wishes. Also Haxxor banner was in place + I got a lot of Meme pieces from beginner eggs.. so now she is SS and with Haxxor doing pretty fine for me. I guess real game starts at 80+ level and then it will be gg for her >< anyway, when ice is not in disfavored position, she keeps me in RedLotus/0.1%, absolutely love her. (level68 currently)

  • @rayyifrasya1100
    @rayyifrasya1100 10 месяцев назад +7

    Keeb should make the newest video of this

  • @PaeP3nguin
    @PaeP3nguin 3 года назад +5

    Oh man, the memories. Great throwback video Keeby!

  • @florensyne
    @florensyne 3 года назад +1

    This is a really cool insight into why some valks are in certain places in various suggestion threads or 'tier lists' based on time made. Thanks for the hard work!

  • @adameddleman
    @adameddleman 11 месяцев назад +1

    I saw this video before I broke through. Now a year and a half later I've seen you in Nirvana a handful of times and I knew every time you'd top the bracket, but I thought it was fucking awesome seeing you there. Keep it up dude.

  • @Ikuruu
    @Ikuruu 3 года назад +21

    Man the nostalgia in this is just... So nice

  • @healiaquastar
    @healiaquastar 3 года назад +11

    This is super interesting afhsjk
    I first started playing around the game release but quit some time in 2017. When I got back into the game this month I was so lost on where all these new characters/battlesuits came from lmaooo

  • @phanidaj3498
    @phanidaj3498 2 года назад

    The amount of efforts that were put into this video is insane! Thank you keebs we really appreciate it!

  • @dorkily
    @dorkily 2 года назад +1

    I have a real appreciation for these types of videos. It's so interesting to see how the meta of a game has evolved throughout its lifetime

  • @r._.l
    @r._.l 2 года назад +12

    HoV still has a special place in my heart even though she’s basically the only herrscher that isn’t fully in the meta 💔

  • @kwonza-gamingandanime5727
    @kwonza-gamingandanime5727 3 года назад +25

    Honestly, I was such a new player when HoS came out that I would have never rolled for her at the time if it wasn't for Keeb's video on her. Game has been easy mode ever since and I very much appreciate how I don't have to struggle against a lot of content that would otherwise be very difficult without a big main dps.

  • @sandglasses8605
    @sandglasses8605 2 года назад

    Alright I came back on this video and damn the goosebumps on the beatdrops and perfect entries of the dialogue made this video so much better

  • @Kodla
    @Kodla 3 года назад +1

    WHOAA awesome vid! :D loved to see how the meta changed from the start of the game :3

  • @nutella7644
    @nutella7644 3 года назад +4

    i only started playing hi3 in mid-2018 and its already so nostalgic to see the different eras and moments hi3 went through

  • @unknownx8164
    @unknownx8164 3 года назад +17

    1:28 that entrance XD. Judah supremacy

  • @DarkVortexSoul
    @DarkVortexSoul 3 года назад +44

    4.5 Acheron PRI release
    Mihoyo expect : SN rises
    Reality : SP rises and SN gone from chart
    SN : yeay my PRI, time to meta
    SP : "our" PRI

    • @WindDevil1
      @WindDevil1 3 года назад +1

      do you think using SP with acheron pri is better than the other scythe made for SP? if so, i might as well make a second copy and not gacha for the other one

    • @DarkVortexSoul
      @DarkVortexSoul 3 года назад +5

      @@WindDevil1 for the other one do you mean undine? PRI acheron is better than undine because the attack gap between 6 star and 5 star is so huge, like +100 atk difference

    • @WindDevil1
      @WindDevil1 3 года назад +1

      @@DarkVortexSoul that makes sense ... now i'm imagining myself making a 2nd acheron and then there's a undine pri hahaha oh well, if i make a 2nd acheron i just won't bother gacha for undine, so that's a bonus

    • @roissidiq672
      @roissidiq672 3 года назад

      Hahaha you are right

    • @joeharry1633
      @joeharry1633 3 года назад +1

      @Vincent Helix
      Mind to enlighten me why SN is inferior to SP?
      I feel betrayed when I struggled so much just to get SN full set when SP is greater than her...

  • @LushyViper
    @LushyViper 3 года назад

    really great work. Nostalgia of 4 years of preparing and adjusting to the meta

  • @hardstones17
    @hardstones17 3 года назад +29

    I hope to see something like this for genshins yearly marks! its always amusing seeing how the meta can shift and also the trend of when power creeps happen possibly.

    • @jabermogwai5996
      @jabermogwai5996 3 года назад +18

      Yeah, but maybe it will be dificult because genshin dont have any leaderboard, like in honkai we know what valk be in meta from top score on every boss, but in GI the only "competitive" content is abbys and it doesnt show how good that unit is because we dont even know the exact score, team comp, or even the clearing time, i hope mihoyo make any other end game content for player at ar55+ , because rightnow abbys is feels like a joke.
      Sorry my english is bad, i hope you understant what am i trying to say.
      Have a nice day.

    • @louisaniathemagnificent8246
      @louisaniathemagnificent8246 2 года назад +4

      I doubt we will have anything like that soon. Meta isn’t important in Genshin, nor is there a ranking system where you get better rewards with higher scores and you “compete” with other players. The spiral abyss is just extra content for you to basically see how strong your teams can be, but you won’t be rewarded for getting higher scores nor can you see other players' scores.

    • @lumilight4242
      @lumilight4242 2 года назад +4

      Well as for Genshin the abyss and viability shifts are not as prominent, Ganyu and Zhongli have never really gone up or down in usage. Genshin is a single player experience, so not much way to compare, so making something like this would be very hard (and also quite monotone)

    • @jabermogwai5996
      @jabermogwai5996 2 года назад +3

      @@lumilight4242 also it will get so much hate and controversies because genshin community doesnt really like tierlist or any form of character ranking

    • @user-vr8qd4hk6y
      @user-vr8qd4hk6y 2 года назад +1

      Even if Genshin is much different, still I would love to see a video about META changes, just adjusted to Genhin's nature.

  • @Jyxero
    @Jyxero 3 года назад +4

    Fu Hua and Bronya always has been a great help for me... No wonder why they're among my top favorites (DB augment core soon?)
    As a cap that started on CH & Sakitama patch, I have to say the road has been long but joyful, even those times where I got killed by bleeding, cause even if it isn't a pleasant one, it will be one more memory for me of this outstanding game
    And thanks for those unexpected clears that I did cause of your guides, like Liliya or Base SS Bronya

  • @ldz771
    @ldz771 3 года назад

    All your life has led you to this moment - Kindred
    btw you made a amazing mash-up of PV BGM for this video, I enjoyed it very much

  • @ok-ij8rk
    @ok-ij8rk 3 года назад +6

    i fucking love this. thank you so much for making this video it made me so nostalgic ❤️

  • @mangosi5181
    @mangosi5181 3 года назад +28

    Oh man the nostalgia is heavy, I remember flexing my built DB and Snowy back in the day

    • @vidmaniacz
      @vidmaniacz 3 года назад +3

      me to or the days of old armada boss with the three man coop

  • @angelignaciolaraquen4000
    @angelignaciolaraquen4000 3 года назад +22

    veteran players: smells of history

  • @599ferrari
    @599ferrari 3 года назад +1

    OMG keebster, this is absolutely brilliant video. U outdid urself mate. *Standing ovation👏👏👏

  • @trietvo1915
    @trietvo1915 3 года назад

    Bravo for a greatly invested work!

  • @feijida8841
    @feijida8841 3 года назад +25

    • @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
      @lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 3 года назад +3

      Aka the Rise of Herrschers...

    • @thongorshengar
      @thongorshengar 2 года назад +1

      >powercreeping
      >SP and NS literally stays until the very end of video despite both of them have their S-rank counterpart.
      Do you even play the fucking game?

    • @feijida8841
      @feijida8841 2 года назад

      @@thongorshengar I quit this fxcking game after I played it for about 1100 days, in CN LOL.

  • @vfsberry7491
    @vfsberry7491 3 года назад +25

    Do HoV some justice giving her out for free is nice but disrespectful to the queens name
    Like just Give her all the buffs she needs

  • @TheLimD
    @TheLimD 3 года назад +1

    Thank you Keeb, amazing video

  • @akkoasakura445
    @akkoasakura445 3 года назад

    Awesome vid! Is very insteresting for a captain who start playing on 4.1 the progression of the game over the years

  • @redwindup
    @redwindup 2 года назад +3

    i'm a new player (started at the end of 2020/2021), pretty much started when they gave out the free HoV. she's currently my strongest valk and the one i enjoy playing the most. i like the quick ranged hits, and the fact she can attack while moving. to hear that she was strongest at some point is mindblowing.
    i wish i was around for her prime

  • @CrystalNova_HI
    @CrystalNova_HI 3 года назад +9

    Very great video.

  • @panjimartiandaru3081
    @panjimartiandaru3081 3 года назад

    So much feels... Thank you for the memory trips!

  • @Skonces
    @Skonces 2 года назад

    i’m a new player who just started a month ago. it’s good to see the history of the game like this. i hope that in a few years i can look back on the current meta with all of you and celebrate how far we’ve come.

  • @eytche9066
    @eytche9066 3 года назад +3

    Walking thru the memory lane is insane, came back from playing Honkai during HoV’s patch although started playing around Feb 2018. Wow, in a span of TEN months a lot has changed damn. Kudos to MiHoYo!

  • @patrickmendoza3210
    @patrickmendoza3210 11 месяцев назад +3

    We need a new video on this

  • @razgrizseele2171
    @razgrizseele2171 2 года назад

    Been playing since day one on china and later global. What a trip down memory lane that one was. Thank you!

  • @Adrian_888
    @Adrian_888 2 года назад

    Awesome video! It's been a year and I'd love to see a follow-up of this bar race! =D

  • @amistrophy
    @amistrophy 3 года назад +8

    I love how memento is just 'meme'

  • @milhouseburns
    @milhouseburns 3 года назад +7

    lmao, i remember getting Judah just when it became obsolete in the meta, like i just started playing HI3 when it still dominated MA and Abyss, but got it when its power was already gone

  • @brianjroth27
    @brianjroth27 2 года назад

    As a new player join HK3, I loved seeing the phases of the meta shift in this vid. Hope it gets an update in a years time or so!
    Well done!

  • @impera8776
    @impera8776 Год назад

    Man its crazy how things can change in 1 year
    I'll be interesting to see an updated version of this

  • @scarredwitch9599
    @scarredwitch9599 3 года назад +10

    And I'm still here waiting SS buff to dominate the meta again.
    My first day on hyperion was on gyakushin and goushinso release. And unfortunately I didn't get Memento but I get miko who was surprisingly good in abyss then I started to use ss and she brings me to another level ! Yamabuki and Ranger was my first support back in the time.
    Mihoyo must buff SS !!!

  • @toninomatalone7323
    @toninomatalone7323 3 года назад +3

    Looking at this video made me think a lot about genshin impact.
    I started playing when HoT got released so i missed a lot of these changes, yet i can see that valkyries go back and forth in the meta, i wonder if that would be the case in the future (because since the release of HoT everything seem to be gravitating just torward the new valks) and if that will happen to genshin too, contemplating the idea of new game modes and features that might be added/removed/modified/buffed/nerfed etc.

  • @ealy3545
    @ealy3545 2 года назад

    I loved the soundtracks. Amazing vid.

  • @Abremoch
    @Abremoch 2 года назад

    Very high quality video and very informative!!!

  • @kianaidioka8487
    @kianaidioka8487 3 года назад +8

    Why do I feel old while watching this video

  • @igniscastor1489
    @igniscastor1489 3 года назад +17

    Shout out for Just3C channel for the invention of "How to abuse Zhangheng B effect"

  • @bronyazaychik3921
    @bronyazaychik3921 3 года назад

    Omfg all the memories i had struggling as an f2p player through all these years. My first main dps valk was Gyakushin Miko with her sakura blossom sword. I was maulding not getting Memento that time. Oh boi having Celestial hymn was a life saver early. I also remember not having oath of judah that time, crystals are very hard to earned those days but now as a pure f2p player, I'm always retaining at redlotus and top 10% on MA. It was breath taking to see this vid, brings back all the pain and happy moments in gacha.

  • @fenrysk
    @fenrysk 3 года назад +1

    great to learn the old meta from pre-3.5. I came back to the game at the end of 3.5 and didn't hit exalted till 3.8-3.9. what a crazy ride it's been since.

  • @officialkx3177
    @officialkx3177 2 года назад +4

    SP was one heck of a good valk for beginners and F2P players

  • @gabbbsworld
    @gabbbsworld 3 года назад +6

    I never expected to be early in a keeb vid

  • @xLvsinq
    @xLvsinq 2 года назад +1

    i would love an updated version of this i like these kinds of videos they're interesting

  • @kaijudozero
    @kaijudozero Год назад +1

    I love this video. Please do one from the end of this video til now :)

  • @hieutruongxuan9995
    @hieutruongxuan9995 3 года назад +6

    I still remember old abyss with bomb throwing and who dont have invisible will rank down :))

  • @honkaiphantom3805
    @honkaiphantom3805 3 года назад +9

    Brings a lot of memory ugh... 🥲

  • @Alexandragon1
    @Alexandragon1 3 года назад

    Thx for so much nostalgia and great history!

  • @tanngominh9935
    @tanngominh9935 2 года назад

    tysm. This video is super interesting! Love it.