Amazing Techniques of Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu!
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This video includes highlights of the Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu Hiden Mokuroku Ikkajo instructional video by Katsuyuki Kondo Sensei, Menkyo Kaiden. Basic techniques are described and demonstrated in detail with emphasis on historical and martial aspects.
Daito Ryu, criticized by MMA combat sports enthusiasts, is the empty hand art of the palace guards. Visitors had to disarm to enter the palace court thus any enemy would have to overpower the armed guard to acquire weapons to attack the court. Thus Daito Ryu responses are tailored for weapon retention, responses to very strong grabs and holds which would be employed to prevent a guard from drawing his blade while other enemy would disarm the guard. Thus all grabs and holds are done w/a death grip during training, under the idea the defender is armed w/wakazashi sword and tanto dagger and if he's not held w/total strength he'll deploy a weapon to cut down the attacker. This is why many Daito Ryu responses are to wrist and arm grabs, as well as bear hugs, shoulder grabs, grabs towards the belt where weapons are carried. Additionally, the finishing strike w/shout is shown as an empty hand kill but to practitioners it's understood that this simulates drawing the tanto dagger or wakazashi short sword to deliver the killing blow to the attacker. It's not an art designed for unarmed or disarmed warriors/knights on the battlefield, nor civilian empty hand dueling. It's specifically created for armed samurai knights assigned as indoor palace guards whom carried weapons & members of the court whom carried a tanto dagger. Think of a modern court bailiff who carries a pistol in court while visitors must all disarm, thus any intent to attack the judge must over power & disarm the bailiff of his weapon to use it against the judge. So Daito Ryu is an effective art created for such a scenario. Very effective for police, law enforcement, anyone whom carries a weapon concerned w/weapon retention & counter-abduction in a combative situation. I explain this because very few uninitiated understand what's being demonstrated when they see Daito Ryu. So they claim it's w/out merit in an MMA cage, grappling match or fist fight. It's purpose is NOT unarmed dueling. It's extremely effective for it's designed purpose.
Finally, some insight that exposes the mentality that is "doesn't work in MMA"
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From what I have seen, the Daito Ryu aiki Jiu Jitsu practitioner would tie the MMA practitioner in a knot.
Keep up the good work.
A friend of mine and fellow practitioner of Daito Ryu is a police officer who has effectively used the techniques in his line of duty for takedowns, restraints, and control of the suspects/attackers.
Exactly
Even if that's true, one would assume that the palace guards would actually train to fight. And not in cooperative displays where the subject obediently flops to the floor for them without offering any resistance whatsoever.
"It is not possible to take a fall from any technique. You can`t take a fall. You can only take a fall because the preassure is released." Wow, this made me think a lot. This is something to apply to other fields in ones life. To take away resistance and letting go of things is such a relief. Sometimes life throws us challenges and we look apon them as enemies. But in resisting the enemy, we add to the energy and when we keep fighting it will destroy us. By letting go and surrendering to what is we can allow the energy to flow again and focus elsewhere.
It makes you wonder what a full on throw would look like. If the thrower wanted to, he could put you in a situation wherr you can't break your fall. For safety, they release pressure allowing the uke to roll out of it.
I think you need to sleep more and more food during meals and exercise 👍just saying
1239 years later its still going strong
Just a difference in where you put your marbles, regarding practice. In a real combat situation, in ancient Japan, if you went down (with armor) you lost your head. The weight of the armor, the mount, the ease in which the helmet could be raised and the throat slashed, guaranteed that there would not be a prolonged grapple on the ground.
Combining this reality with the use of very sharp bladed weapons, where you do not "take a hit" the emphasis was on perfect technique. And Sensei is quite correct that when done properly there is no Ukemi...or lets say for the sake of argument: At the very least you have to have incredible Ukemi to not be crippled totally when thrown properly.
Guys who are so caught up with this idea of struggle cannot truly understand the idea that one may practice to have flawless technique. But one has to ask: what happens when you get older and weaker? I have practiced the arts since being 13 , and fought with full resistance many times, and I am 55 years old. Rather than trying to go hammer and tongs with a 22 year old who likes pain, and who comes out of this generation where you kick someone in the head until they die...you best believe that for the last years since the age of 40, I have been perfecting technique and the use of weapons.
A really good martial artist must understand both aspects... I remember seeing guys 22 years old with notebooks at seminars. Ridiculous. Get off your ass junior and feel the technique! Apply it against that bruiser over there trying to resist....yada yada, the time and the place is set for that. As you internalize what works, then enter a stage of perfecting technique and really relying upon it. Any MMA guy who is a badass? try walking into a sword attack and learning the angles to do so, with no hesitation. Getting whacked a few times when you screw up! The psychological conditioning required to master the Noble Art (what I call Aikia!) is tremendous.
Now, to be fair, I see a lot of guys who have bad technique in these videos, NOT Katsuyuki Kondo Sensei, who I have great respect for as a technician. Bad technique practiced over and over again will make you really good at getting killed. But when the Noble art is based on the dynamics of the sword, and things like, not losing the lock through the range of motion, not giving the person his balance back, Not losing focus on the whole individual, not tying oneself up with the opponent., etc are minded, this art is an art that has real combat applications.
I agree sir! thank you very much for letting me see anither angle/perspective in my practice! ossu!
from the way you write i can see you have lots of experience
Finally, someone who isn't just another armchair martial artist that dismisses something solely because it's a demonstration.
Technique over muscle all the time. My only problem with different martial art disciplines around the world is that the attacks have not been updated. In my years of studying I realized that most martial artist cannot defend against the most common modern attack. They can't defend a wild hook punch. They don't have the slightest clues of how to practically disarm an attacker with a modern weapon like guns or knives. Fortunately for me my training has covered those areas extensively. I prefer practical over traditional any given day of the week.
For the un-initiated, Daito ryu AikiJujutsu y Aikido are NOT same art, despite Ueshiba trained in AikiJujutsu prior to joining a passifist cult y creating aikido for excercise y to bring humans together in an act of noncompetitive cooperation. Ueshiba himself said aikido wasn't a fighting art. Daito ryu Aiki-jujutsu is also NOT a battlefield art but an indoors imperial court bodyguard art. Only indoor guards were allowed weapons. Visitors had to disarm before entering shogun court. Thus Daito Ryu focus heavily on weapon retention y counter-grappling to prevent would be assassins disarming guards to attack the principle. The finishing strike of downed attacker represents a kill strike with a tanto dagger carried by indoor guards. It's a bodyguard art not battlefield art or unarmed dueling art. Without knowing context one can't understand an art's purpose y value. RUclips can't teach U what U wish to know in such arts. U must train under certified teachers in the art y learn it's history.
Exactly, the palace/court guards were equivalent to today's Court Bailiffs, armed while court visitors must disarm. Thus weapon retention and counter-hold/counter-abduction escape methods, ending w/deploying a weapon to deliver the finishing strike distinguishes Daito Ryu from other close-combat defense arts. The uninitiated tend to judge w/out any contextual analysis.
What is the difference between both? Its hard for me to tell how is this different from regular aikido
@@BoratfromKazakhstan The movements for one. The movements in Aikido are far wider and meant more for avoidance of attacks as well as redirection of opponent's movements. Whereas Daito Ryu focuses more on smaller movement meant for proper positioning for effective body mechanics for controlling and eliminating the threat. Aikido has some techniques that can be used in similar circumstances, but the intended application was meant more for peaceful, non-harmful means. Only for control of the opponent and avoidance of the attack. Daito Ryu focuses on eliminating the threat through brutal joint locking techniques that can easily break joint and tear ligaments. There will certainly be cross over as Daito Ryu is the predecessor to Aikido, but their approaches are far different.
@@BoratfromKazakhstan Aïkido uses more circular mouvement to break the balance of the opponent and the atemis (strikes) are mainly used to distract him. While in daito ryu like in other ju jutsu styles , atemis are prominent before and after the application of a technique.
I would really thank you very much for this thoroughly well explained definition! I'm a shotokan practicioner and consider Aiki jiu-jitsu as very complexe art.
Remember to always finish by re stomping the groin.
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I'am happy that i can train with sensei kondo sometimes.
Where?
@@eiichiyakamoto840 europe. Netherlands or italy
This is the style of aikido that I study and I'm grateful that I found a teacher that can give me this type of art . What devestating moves .
Akido came from Daito Ryu. The difference is that Daito Ryu goes for the balance and brutality. Akido is just a dumbed down safer version with bullshit
Cajunman Dick ..some might think this crap is devastating as you put it ..others would see this as a pathetic pajama party with dudes that couldn’t do anything but play with compliant opponents. Yawn
@@mrk8546 Those "others" are what are known as pretentious idiots.
@@MansMan42069 : what size pajamas do you wear ?
@@mrk8546jujitsu/ aikijujutsu has been proven to be effectively be in actual battle for decades. It doesn’t get more real than that.
Kirikaeshi is similar to gedanate but Uke is off balanced and brought down lower by Tori. I am missing my Daitō-ryū Aiki-jūjutsu classes.
Where did you study? It's definitely something I would sorely miss as I very much enjoy studying Daito Ryu.
I belive one major factor that Sensai overlooked in his interview with Aikido Journal regarding the reasons of the pubularity gained by Aikido that has never reached by Daito-Ryu is the secresity nature they insist to have in thier teachings till nowadays versus the genirous spiritit O'Sensia had and was keen upon to make "Aikido for the World"
you are an illiterate moron
@@mrfrogg46able looking at his name i suspect english isn't his first language. Translating his broken english into more simply phrased and grammatically correct English i believe what he was trying to say is that one reason that daito ryuu is not as popular as akido os that aikido was taught openly whereas daito ryuu was kept relatively secret until recently.
other reasons for the popularity of many budo over bujutusu is whether the schools could convince the occupying forces after WWII that they were cooperative sports and pacificist in ideology.
How can I learn more
Katsuyukki technique is hard
Fantastique
I do not understand 1:05 pls help me
So kyokushin was inspired by this. How cool :) thanks masa oyama
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Daito Ryu is not Akido. Akido came from Daito Ryu.
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Aiki Jutsu Has Deadly Techinques...
To bad you never practice without resistance basically rendering about 90% of it useless against someone who pull back and throw punches and can perform real takedowns
In the aikijutsu dojo I went to, we often practiced with resistance. That's why we had to have our black belts in a hard style karate before we were admitted. The problem is, if you practice with resistance you can get really hurt.
We were all black belts. We were used to getting hit. But, after our aiki jutsu practices, we often sat around comparing bruises. It wasn't a good session if we weren't all bruised.
I was usually disappointed when I went to aikido dojos after that. One big difference I found between our aikijutsu and the aikido I later encountered was the absence of akemi.
Aki jujutsu is harder to learn than most other jujutsu to learn because of an extra step in putting your opponent off balance first.
駱寒刃 Aiki is a principal of kenjutsu that was present in many, perhaps most jujutsu schools. Diato Ryu was the first that added the principal to the title of their empty hand art and that was in the late 1800’s. So basically, just another jujutsu school.
@@Seegie16 I would love to see when people do Uchikomi in Judo and they resisting. The main purpose for demo is to show the techniques. You can get your resisting opponents once you get there.
Subtle but dangerous Aiki
yama arashi in judo
I think Daito Ryu is better than Aikido imho.
@Ult_R4nger 94 i agree
That's because daito ryuu was developed for use in actual combat and aikido developed by modifying daitoryuu to comply with the principles of a weird new age religion
One is a direct derivative of the other I would not match them as a VS
@Ult_R4nger 94 the founder of hapkido was taught by the founder of daito ryu
@Ult_R4nger 94 and so was the founder of aikido so it's pretty much all the same
Aikido and related arts should embrace the concept of honesty and explain how the techniques are aided greatly by the cooperation of the Uke. Instead of pretending that the art has superpower abilities. The truth is actually more impressive than the fiction that short-cutting "masters" try to claim. It's just that these masters are more physical than analytical. And, those of us with superior I.Q.'s must suffer their hubris. I'd settle all questions in combat, enough said.
I actually love the principles of Akido in relation to the ability to control balance. However, isn't it about time that we stop talking about Ki as something other than an illogical superstition? Those who freeze themselves in time and can't think are truly brain dead.
Ki is real but it has been mystified over time. Really it’s just a principle of using simple science that came from Kenjutsu. If you ever grappled with someone that is super relaxed and flexible then, weather they realize it or not, they were using ki. It’s not magical at all.
It gets old reading none experts. Expect opinions.
Basically, this looks like proper Judo.
There are similarities and huge differences. Judo was created from jujitsu like aikido. But unlike judo, jujitsu/ aikijujutsu generally don’t allow the opponent to take break falls and the goal is to break something before they are dumped on their head. Judo also removed the finger & wrist locks as well as attacks to the groin, eyes, throat and back of the head. Judo eventually removed striking all together as well.
Is karate secretly racist? The more I understand about handwork in aikido the less respect karate seems to have for aikido...
Beautiful to watch but none of this would work in a fight.
@Heavy Mike Because I trained in martial arts for 20 years.
Well, I would tell them if they hadn't all died off over a hundred years ago.
The horse and buggy worked great in the 18 and 19th centuries as well but I prefer a car.
Dude, those techniques were used on battleground, you really think warriors used ineffective techniques?
@@namyar4254 Samurai used swords and other weapons on the battleground. Hand to hand was only used as a last resort.
During WWII many Marines came in face to face combat on Tarawa, Iwo Jima and other Japanese islands with Japanese soldiers and won using old school boxing and wrestling.
@@christofl6523 "Samurai used swords and other weapons on the battleground. Hand to hand was only used as a last resort."
Yes, and?
"During WWII many Marines came in face to face combat on Tarawa, Iwo Jima and other Japanese islands with Japanese soldiers and won using old school boxing and wrestling."
And?