Elon drops a massive bombshell tells Farage your fired!

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

Комментарии • 202

  • @tengallonhat2741
    @tengallonhat2741 16 дней назад +32

    Following from the U.S. - I totally agree! Thank you!

  • @alexandra25ist
    @alexandra25ist 16 дней назад +28

    And don't forget Abdrew Bridgen who is the only politician to stand up and speak at both of Tommy's events

    • @angelahayes24
      @angelahayes24 16 дней назад +5

      And a wonderful human being and a great politician that actually cares for the country.

    • @Carole-HnyB
      @Carole-HnyB 16 дней назад +4

      Andrew Bridgen. Yes. We need mamy many new, trustworthy Politicians. Ben Habib too. Not Rupert Lowe. He called Farage 'The Messiah ' !!

    • @sylviabriggs4087
      @sylviabriggs4087 16 дней назад

      A man who knows about the child trafficking yet says nothing

    • @angelablaney4575
      @angelablaney4575 13 дней назад

      And Tenconi.

  • @deecherryify
    @deecherryify 16 дней назад +35

    Ben should come back as leader

  • @ashleighsr-z9159
    @ashleighsr-z9159 16 дней назад +11

    Richard, you’re pretty blooming amazing yourself, thank you. ✝️🙏🏻

  • @jackygummer3329
    @jackygummer3329 16 дней назад +18

    I am disgusted with the behaviour of the three Reform leaders. They are becoming as self important as Liebour. UKIP all the way people.

  • @hillarysmith7948
    @hillarysmith7948 16 дней назад +11

    Totally agree, Reform needs Rupert and Ben at the helm to take the party in the right direction

  • @mikeyb.7759
    @mikeyb.7759 16 дней назад +20

    NO ONE is bigger than all of us.

  • @preciousdevere288
    @preciousdevere288 16 дней назад +12

    I learnt many years ago, that if you have nothing good to say don't speak! Nigel and Tice will rue the day.

  • @rosalindsalter5108
    @rosalindsalter5108 16 дней назад +18

    This should go down in history as Elon-gate!!

    • @Carole-HnyB
      @Carole-HnyB 14 дней назад

      @@rosalindsalter5108 ohhh noooo

  • @mrkeeny
    @mrkeeny 16 дней назад +18

    It’s not even about Tommy, the issue is that Farage will turn a blind eye to injustice. The coward wouldn’t support you or I if we were in TRs position, if it wasn’t politically expedient.

    • @WatchingtheWorldBurning
      @WatchingtheWorldBurning 15 дней назад

      Exactly. So few people understand this. I suppose desperation will do that to a people.

  • @CassidaViridis
    @CassidaViridis 16 дней назад +30

    Not impressed by Lee Anderson either.

    • @donnaspeer2760
      @donnaspeer2760 16 дней назад +1

      Wonder what party he will join next.🤔😁

    • @Carole-HnyB
      @Carole-HnyB 13 дней назад +1

      My OPINION (observation) is that he comes across as a thug

    • @shivsnorman
      @shivsnorman 10 дней назад

      I had such high hopes for him at the start but not anymore. Why do politicians have to keep letting us down 😢

  • @neilpenfold9037
    @neilpenfold9037 16 дней назад +5

    That was a wonderful show guys. The work you both do behind the scenes is not lost on me. I think I get it, and I hope one day I can thank you both over a beer. Richard commented on something that brought tears to my eyes, and I struggled to hold them back. It's such a shame that Nigel and Richard are establishment toffs and are not likely to change their position on Tommy, who I believe to be the hardest-working Philanthropist of the early 21st Century in our Amazing Island Nations. And nor do they respect the vote of the Working Class Patriots, who were unfortunately unaware of how misplaced their trust in these two toffs was. Fortunately for me, I wasn't so easily taken in as some, so all the furore of the last two days hasn't really come as a surprise to me. I believe that as long as the core of this movement stands strong, and acts with loyalty, bravery and integrity, there is nobody who holds the power to subdue us and our message. These are OUR ISLANDS, OUR CHILDREN, AND THE HOME OF OUR CULTURE IS HERE, WHERE WE STAND TOGETHER, AS ONE IMMOVABLE FORCE. WE ARE TOMMY🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿♥️✌️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

    • @MrWannabeartist
      @MrWannabeartist 16 дней назад

      Not Tears but red with fury is what the majority of British people have.

  • @LadyLyn-x8c
    @LadyLyn-x8c 16 дней назад +36

    Do Farage and Tice think Elon Musk is that stupid! They’re not to be trusted! Ben Habib is a man I could trust!

    • @Revolutionistory
      @Revolutionistory 16 дней назад +3

      I'm on board with you with this one skipper

    • @Carole-HnyB
      @Carole-HnyB 16 дней назад +2

      I'm for Richard as Leader

    • @sylviabriggs4087
      @sylviabriggs4087 16 дней назад

      Trust yourself only

    • @MrWannabeartist
      @MrWannabeartist 16 дней назад

      @Carole-HnyB Also too weak

    • @nickryder9669
      @nickryder9669 16 дней назад

      @Carole-HnyByou just show how Cupid 💘 you are ! Farage is the largest shareholder holder in a lot company there can be no other leader unless he sells shares ! He’s UNELECTED

  • @MrWannabeartist
    @MrWannabeartist 16 дней назад +22

    Farage can fix his mistake. He can announce in parliament that Tommy must be free.

    • @derryshore5586
      @derryshore5586 16 дней назад

      @@MrWannabeartist If Farage buckles then he will be just like any other politician

    • @Carole-HnyB
      @Carole-HnyB 16 дней назад

      He HATES Tommy so he'll never do that.

    • @MrWannabeartist
      @MrWannabeartist 16 дней назад

      @Carole-HnyB Political suicide

    • @richardflack3579
      @richardflack3579 15 дней назад

      And if he does, nobody will believe he has seen the light.

  • @b85382
    @b85382 16 дней назад +16

    Can someone explain to my why GBNEWS are under the impression that Tommy is under solitary confinement by his own choice Dawn Neesom has said that on her show a few times earlier on today I listened to the phone call Tommy made describing his jail time and not once did he say he asked to be put in solitary confinement

  • @jacquidelaney2931
    @jacquidelaney2931 16 дней назад +5

    Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe and Douglas Murray

  • @MartynSharman-t9k
    @MartynSharman-t9k 16 дней назад +15

    1st feb london

  • @DarrenCarter-z9u
    @DarrenCarter-z9u 16 дней назад +1

    Thanks lads spot on

  • @stevem-op9po
    @stevem-op9po 16 дней назад +3

    Please can we just have a brand new party. We need to follow the example of Argentina.❤

  • @BessBlack-td8qx
    @BessBlack-td8qx 16 дней назад +18

    Most of us could see Nigel agenda, his ego will not unite

  • @sandrawells7665
    @sandrawells7665 16 дней назад +1

    Cant forsake Tommy !!

  • @TooTolerant
    @TooTolerant 16 дней назад +3

    TIME FOR THE FIGHT BACK

  • @louisapepperrell3630
    @louisapepperrell3630 16 дней назад +7

    Love the photo used for the heading of this video

  • @paulchambers6537
    @paulchambers6537 15 дней назад +2

    Nigel dont need Elon Musk and i hope they turn down Elons donations.

  • @jacquidelaney2931
    @jacquidelaney2931 16 дней назад +1

    Nick Tanconi from ukip said he would welcome Tommy with open arms to join his party

  • @ramakrishnamurthyyeleswara1292
    @ramakrishnamurthyyeleswara1292 16 дней назад +6

    Tommy should float his own party.

    • @Carlotta-x3c
      @Carlotta-x3c 16 дней назад +1

      Unfortunately he cannot because he’s got form .

  • @alyshatetens6672
    @alyshatetens6672 16 дней назад +7

    New subscriber. 🙏🙏 I never trusted Farage. I stopped listening to Tousi TV because he builds his fame off the back of Tommy and never denounces Nigel for backstabbing Tommy. I actually agreed with everything you said. 🙏🙏

    • @michelleibur
      @michelleibur 16 дней назад

      Absolutely 💯 same reason I stopped listening to Tousi TV. Paul Richard are great to listen too.

  • @Sapphire9858
    @Sapphire9858 15 дней назад +1

    Ben Habib should start his own party and bring Rupert Lowe on board.

    • @earlydawn8183
      @earlydawn8183 13 дней назад

      Yes, and see how far they get. Rupert is loyal to REFORM and Habib isn’t even an MP.

  • @amandarichardson-n7t
    @amandarichardson-n7t 16 дней назад +3

    Afternoon guys, so glad Elon has called him out. ❤ love to tommy (crazy scooter lady)

  • @Carole-HnyB
    @Carole-HnyB 16 дней назад

    An apology wont make a difference. He's NOT to be trusted. Learn the lesson guys

  • @TooTolerant
    @TooTolerant 16 дней назад +4

    GET ON BOARD WITH THE ELON COUP

  • @sandrawells7665
    @sandrawells7665 16 дней назад +2

    Listen to Errol Musk talking to Nana on GB News about Tommy . Hes got it right.

  • @deblina
    @deblina 16 дней назад +7

    Great Thumbnail!

  • @debbiehildebrant4943
    @debbiehildebrant4943 16 дней назад +4

    Nigel is a person that disrupts and divides. Look back through 30 years. This is his M.O.

  • @SusanneLane-h5e
    @SusanneLane-h5e 16 дней назад +7

    Does farage have connections with hope not hate?

    • @michelleibur
      @michelleibur 16 дней назад

      I've seen a few people post on X saying reform use them to vet incoming potential mp but I don't know if that's true

  • @b85382
    @b85382 16 дней назад +5

    I have just watched an interview with Nana Akua and Errol Musk Elons dad and he can’t speak highly enough of Tommy he thinks the best way forward for the UK is Tommy for PM it’s a good watch

    • @sandrawells7665
      @sandrawells7665 16 дней назад

      Yes I just watched it, agree with errol is the best . Tommy for PM . It's a very good watch

    • @MrWannabeartist
      @MrWannabeartist 16 дней назад

      Absolutely. Farage has ended up being an establishment puppet. Scared of media and opposition who think they know better.

  • @TooTolerant
    @TooTolerant 16 дней назад +5

    I'M GOING TO TELL ELON WHAT'S WHAT.. HOW DID THAT WORK OUT FOR YOU NIGEL?

  • @roslynj5263
    @roslynj5263 16 дней назад +3

    I wonder what June Slater is going to say about all this?

  • @beany2456
    @beany2456 16 дней назад +1

    Absolutely right Richard, I don’t trust Farage or Rice and have said it for a long time , the Chairman of Reform should get Ben Habib as leader and Tommy in Reform . And then they would get millions of votes. Elon is right. If things don’t change I will vote ukip.

  • @stephaniebinmore3887
    @stephaniebinmore3887 16 дней назад +3

    I said yesterday farage had made the biggest mistake ever he rubbished tr.. why, why, tr never asked to be a politician. Why do they ever bring him into the equation??

  • @Caroline06Jones
    @Caroline06Jones 16 дней назад +2

    You know what turned me against Farage also? Obviously the problem he has with Tommy, slagging him off and looking down his nose at him but when he said about removing immigrants...he didn't want to really go full on and upset everyone!!! in so many words! We want someone who will remove illegal immigrants and etc etc without fail!!!

    • @WatchingtheWorldBurning
      @WatchingtheWorldBurning 15 дней назад +1

      Exactly right. I don’t understand how people can’t recognise this. If he doesn’t set an appealing agenda why would one vote for him?

    • @Carole-HnyB
      @Carole-HnyB 13 дней назад +1

      @@Caroline06Jones I've done some research about that today. It doesn't seem to be a simple matter.

  • @johnkerr6114
    @johnkerr6114 16 дней назад +10

    Farage ask or call out Tommy's treatment in prison

    • @b85382
      @b85382 16 дней назад

      I have already commented on this but according to GBNEWS they are adamant that Tommy asked to be put into solitary confinement which I don’t get cos I listened to the phone call he made from his prison cell and I don’t get that impression in fact I found it heartbreaking what he’s going through it’s an injustice

    • @johnkerr6114
      @johnkerr6114 16 дней назад +1

      I dont believe Tommy asked for that and I think it suits some people to say that

    • @johnkerr6114
      @johnkerr6114 16 дней назад

      Tommy should not even be in prison in the first place also

    • @johnkerr6114
      @johnkerr6114 16 дней назад

      That film the public had a right to watch it

    • @wordwordful
      @wordwordful 16 дней назад

      Tommy is a UK Assange

  • @stephaniebinmore3887
    @stephaniebinmore3887 16 дней назад +1

    TR. speaks the truth has dug and dug to bring the truth and got himself incarcerated in order to do that. Oml we all need to praise tr for that.. he knew what he was saying but he comprised his freedom in order to bring this truth in order for us to understand what is going on in our country. I was never a fan of tr.. but i thank him so,so very, very much for bringing this to the forefront.. God bless you and cannot wait for you to be free tr... nigel has got to big for his boots... thankyou elon from uk❤❤❤ you are one special man in supporting our childrens lives

  • @neilling436
    @neilling436 16 дней назад +3

    dont fotget 48% 9f the people dont trust Nigel becouse of brexit i know lots of people who would not vote for reform if Nigel is the leader , hes holding reform back

  • @carolebirch9758
    @carolebirch9758 16 дней назад +2

    Richard have you watched" British landeur" on you tube? He's ex military army officer, done some good videos about Tommy

  • @MarkPickering-k1e
    @MarkPickering-k1e 16 дней назад +9

    This is about saving the country from the radical far left and islamists we need to be united against this evil in our country

    • @thorpsewinglessons5913
      @thorpsewinglessons5913 16 дней назад +1

      MarkPickering-k1e Agree with you. 💯% 🕊️✝️🙏🇬🇧

    • @ColinScudder
      @ColinScudder 15 дней назад +2

      These two utubers have lost sight of the target and people are over emotional. Robinson supporters chanting Tommy Tommy Tommy just looks immature as unfair as that may seem its fact .That will not swing enough of the public to Reform.Its a bad look just as its a bad look for Reform not to have stuck to no comment.

    • @earlydawn8183
      @earlydawn8183 13 дней назад

      @@ColinScudderagreed, one despairs of Thorpe and Inman. Who else are they going to vote for? Farage spoke brilliantly today in House of Commons about the gangs. Said Reform would raise the money themselves for a national enquiry.

  • @carlostavares4360
    @carlostavares4360 16 дней назад +5

    Elon Musk is Extraordinary!!

    • @sylviabriggs4087
      @sylviabriggs4087 16 дней назад

      Don't be so fooled

    • @MrWannabeartist
      @MrWannabeartist 16 дней назад

      @@sylviabriggs4087 Nobody is fooled, they simply agree what he says, and glad of his support.

  • @Carole-HnyB
    @Carole-HnyB 16 дней назад +1

    Is the February Rally still on? (I expect Tommy to be freed very soon)

  • @soniamcfeeley3346
    @soniamcfeeley3346 16 дней назад +2

    FREE TOMMY

  • @PatriciaDowning-q9i
    @PatriciaDowning-q9i 16 дней назад +4

    We still need a leader?.

    • @Oceansgreen
      @Oceansgreen 16 дней назад +1

      BEN HABIB🎉🎉🎉

  • @MichelleStaunton-l4b
    @MichelleStaunton-l4b 15 дней назад

    Tommy has paid his dues! ❤️

  • @SusanneLane-h5e
    @SusanneLane-h5e 16 дней назад +2

    Farage and tices egos are far too big to back down, why farage came out with what he did after the backlash from tices comment shows he can't read a room

  • @Frankie3-q1d
    @Frankie3-q1d 16 дней назад +3

    Thats what happens Farage when you get to big your boots T.R as the support and respect of decent British People you and some in your party seem to not understand that!!

  • @lindadee6603
    @lindadee6603 16 дней назад

    What you said about the post codes for the Pledge Richard is a great idea. Cause here in Scotland there are so many people still sleeping 😴

  • @3hillhav
    @3hillhav 15 дней назад

    Those who fail to learn the lessons from History are doomed to end up repeating it.

  • @jacquidelaney2931
    @jacquidelaney2931 16 дней назад +1

    UKIP for me now

  • @derryshore5586
    @derryshore5586 16 дней назад +3

    Jesus the Egos

  • @jamestoner3900
    @jamestoner3900 16 дней назад +1

    Go and form your own Political Party, Reform is growing

  • @donnaspeer2760
    @donnaspeer2760 16 дней назад +1

    Careful Elon you will have Nick Lowles after you.😆

  • @Maria-n8x2u
    @Maria-n8x2u 15 дней назад

    My mother in law worked for the DPP
    She said , film you see are based on facts .
    Im going back 30 yrs .

  • @truckerfromreno
    @truckerfromreno 15 дней назад

    Bye bye Reform.

  • @wordwordful
    @wordwordful 16 дней назад +1

    Free the meme ladies

  • @debbiehildebrant4943
    @debbiehildebrant4943 16 дней назад +2

    Maybe Reform is the only possible hope to fight labour but UKIP for future. I don’t know why people don’t vote them. Do you all know something I’m missing?

  • @3hillhav
    @3hillhav 15 дней назад

    Listening to all this, why oh why do I think of Cromwell and all the harm he did to this Island.

  • @RickyHouse007
    @RickyHouse007 16 дней назад +1

    Sorry Richard I thought I was leaving comment for Paul would u know the answer to my question it's bugging the life out of me cheers if u can if not no worry, keep up the good work man brillaint what Elon is doing I'm buzzing again, take care Richard man

  • @johnbaldwin6957
    @johnbaldwin6957 16 дней назад +1

    Farage has no back bone

  • @3hillhav
    @3hillhav 15 дней назад

    Talk about living in your own bubble and only hearing what you want to hear in that bubble.

  • @a-mh2811
    @a-mh2811 16 дней назад +2

    i have always been a Nigel fan clashing with many you tubers over him but how he spoke about TR yesterday was appalling, TR has lost so much for this country, Nigel i cant defend you

  • @derryshore5586
    @derryshore5586 16 дней назад +2

    Have either of you Paul and Richard asked what Tommy thinks of this? ..Only he cannot speak for himself

  • @remkiely8769
    @remkiely8769 16 дней назад +1

    Appreciate Nick Teconi but do not see him as a leader of a national party. Drop the UKIP name replace it with Patriot Party and bring in core people like Tommy, Ben, Andrew Bridgen, Rupert Lowe (if it becomes appropriate), that's what the vacuums crying out for ✊

  • @remkiely8769
    @remkiely8769 16 дней назад +1

    The right is moulding itself into a form that can truly take on the establishment and state...now it's actually getting interesting

  • @denise4487
    @denise4487 16 дней назад

    Im so over this! Uniting the kingdom? Yea right!

  • @huxy6719
    @huxy6719 16 дней назад

    Elons dad, Errol, saying Tommy for PM 🎉

  • @b85382
    @b85382 16 дней назад +1

    Richard watch the interview Nana Akua had on GBNEWS today with ERROL MUSK Elons dad it’ll lift you and Tommys spirits

  • @stephaniebinmore3887
    @stephaniebinmore3887 16 дней назад +1

    I heard him yesterday and thought what..
    What is he saying... bad mouthing tr again.. i thought no,no,no,no what are you doing, saying... nigel done

  • @AC-um2mk
    @AC-um2mk 16 дней назад +1

    Farage could investigate Tommy and his actions and statements over the years and announce his findings of TRUTH and that he is now a Tommy supporter ... thus bringing Farage supporters to be also Tommy supporters. He could simply say he didn't know and now he does ... many of us Tommy supporters have been through that process. I once supported the awful HNH and, ironically, that was how I first heard of Tommy 😂

  • @rightism8777
    @rightism8777 16 дней назад +1

    Rupert Lowe is Israel first so you should all be delighted

  • @alambyant
    @alambyant 16 дней назад +9

    Elon Musk’s father has just said on GB News that “The Future belongs to Tommy Robinson”. ✌️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @MrWannabeartist
      @MrWannabeartist 16 дней назад +2

      He says as it is, and if he faces trouble, so be it. He has courage, Farage doesn't.

    • @paulchambers6537
      @paulchambers6537 15 дней назад

      ​@MrWannabeartist You are a back stabber ain't you.

  • @johngaskell1384
    @johngaskell1384 16 дней назад +1

    Why do you think hes taking conservatives into reform its because he wanted to be leader and this way he can but in a backhand way

  • @DarrenCarter-z9u
    @DarrenCarter-z9u 16 дней назад +1

    Nf as got no backbone unlike you lads who are the backbone of Britain

  • @BarbaraParkesMoore
    @BarbaraParkesMoore 15 дней назад

    Elon is more about him than farage has ❤

  • @Rosemary-iz5vc
    @Rosemary-iz5vc 16 дней назад

    People are saying they are going to resign their membership of the Reform party over Nigel Farages remarks about Tommy. I’m as angry as anyone but what’s the point of leaving Reform? We need to stay and when and if we ever get the right to vote for a leader of the party we can vote him out. We have to fight from the inside.

    • @diannelafreniere2211
      @diannelafreniere2211 16 дней назад

      The ReformGB party will self implode with the likes of Nigel Farage and like mindsets who are willing to put the patriotic warriors into prison under terrible conditions like they were a murdering criminal!

  • @RickyHouse007
    @RickyHouse007 16 дней назад +2

    Paul have I said something out of order I've been texting in for over a year now and in ur last 3 live shows none of my messages have been going up if there's a block on me could I please know why, I had one night of vodka over Xmas and can't remember if I was texting into you or not but I am properly blocked can you tell me why please,

  • @Mandas6855
    @Mandas6855 15 дней назад

    Excellent don’t bully us

  • @savethebeesplantherbs8809
    @savethebeesplantherbs8809 16 дней назад

    As a SDP party member without Farage the Reform party are gone Tice failed as there leader the only decent alternative is the SDP every patriot party must agree a election pact share the constituencies evenly vote the patriot in from that party SDP or right wing kick out DAVOS

  • @Rosemary-iz5vc
    @Rosemary-iz5vc 16 дней назад

    Has Tommy Robinson ever said he wants to join the Reform Party? Why would he want to, I’ve never heard him say he wants to enter mainstream politics.
    Does he want all this fuss made about something he doesn’t want to do?

  • @Macaroni1479
    @Macaroni1479 16 дней назад +1

    Im still supporting both Men Nigel and Tommy Vote Reform Uk all the Way

  • @Independent2024
    @Independent2024 16 дней назад +1

    All that glitters is not gold. Unfortunately maga is learning that after the election with visa issue. Pick your leader carefully I pray for Tommy and Uk. Our base is being divided and forgotten men and women are once again forgotten and told we are not welcome in gop anymore by billionaires. Saddest thing I have ever seen.

  • @stevebudd6078
    @stevebudd6078 15 дней назад

    Spot the Bannonites …

  • @diannelafreniere2211
    @diannelafreniere2211 16 дней назад

    Elon Musks father just did an interview in England stating..Tommy Robinson should be the next PM of GB. Wow…now that’s an endorsement! Unless NF stepped up to the podium with a humble apology and a promise to get TR released and become a prominent fighter in the MBGA! This party has to clean out the people suffering from RDS, roll up their sleeves and get the heck to work to clean up the mess and corruption in your Government!

  • @markjkw1
    @markjkw1 16 дней назад

    Says everything about the Dave Allen from wish all about himself

  • @diannelafreniere2211
    @diannelafreniere2211 16 дней назад

    No one advices Elon Musk..no one! He is one of the richest and most powerful men in the world!

  • @montybrack7223
    @montybrack7223 16 дней назад

    So were you appointed to the NEC it should be election/ vote or are they making up their own rules now

  • @nickryder9669
    @nickryder9669 16 дней назад

    Ha ha ha if you put F infront of Elon you get Trump

  • @kevinbrown3482
    @kevinbrown3482 16 дней назад

    Farage is finished

  • @JohnCunningham-y2t
    @JohnCunningham-y2t 15 дней назад

    Not to late, WTF...

  • @BarbaraParkesMoore
    @BarbaraParkesMoore 15 дней назад

    Like I said Richard before I have never trusted nigel farage something dodgy about him

  • @sylviabriggs4087
    @sylviabriggs4087 16 дней назад

    Is this the same Elon that wants to chip our Brain ??

  • @AndyWatkins-u4s
    @AndyWatkins-u4s 16 дней назад +1

    Maybe there's a reason why he is distancing reform from Tommy ? We can't afford to split the vote reform are are the only hope to save our country no matter what you think of them!

  • @JohnCunningham-y2t
    @JohnCunningham-y2t 15 дней назад

    Paul, if not UKIP, you should take spanish classes.
    Nick Tenconi is the leader...