I own and use both as a German car mechanic. 1/4" is what i use a majority of the time for interior, trim and under the hood. 3/8" when i'm doing brakes, sparkplugs or dealing with 15mm+ fasteners. What really makes these ratchets shine for automotive work is a quality set of 1/4" drive and 3/8" drive extensions. Both regular and wobblies.
I had a 1/4 in Milwaukee ratchet with the black head but I replaced the head two times since I got one of the silver heads it hasn’t given me any problems in 2.5 years
Tip: Get yourself a replacement anvil. A 3/8 if you have a 1/4 inch tool or a 1/4 if you have a 3/8 inch tool. They are easily changed over (snap ring). These are the only differences between these two tools (2466 and 2567). This way you can have two tools in one without having to shell out the $$$ for two separate tools.
Great job man. Thank you for taking the time to show us the difference. I have a 2568 and work on Bobcat loaders but am going to get a 2567 since the 1/2" 2568 is a little big.
Thank you for another great 👍🙏 test, this is one of this tools must have, I really, really want this 😀, hopefully milwaukee will introduce extended version. Greetings from UK
This was exactly what I'm looking for. My question was between the 1/4 inch and the 3/8ths. I'm just starting out as a heavy truck/heavy emergency equipment diesel tech so I'm buying all my tools to get further into this and we do full refurbishment and upgrade, tearing it down to the frame and rebuilding it, I see 2 inch plus fasteners all the way down to smaller than 3/8ths, got air tools and big brushless impacts for the other stuff but I'm in engine cowlings or under the frame in confined space using a tite reach on the end of something or an extension with a crow's foot cuz there's no room. I love that these let you break the fasteners loose first without breaking the tool
Thanks for this video! Torque Test Channel showed these at 29 ft lbs, I'm guessing this tool is more powerful forward than in reverse. Your video is invaluable, thankyou!
Definitely agree these are for getting threaded nuts and bolts off quicker. Hopefully for professional mechanics they don’t change the times on jobs for those working on commission because these tools are available.
Milwaukee doesn’t like to advertise it but the fuel ratchets can handle over 250 Ft lbs. in short. Tim’s right, these aren’t impact, but they can handle more strain then any other brand. I went with the high speed and love it. Hoping they come out with these in the extended because the tightneing on these and break away has always sucked. These are for removal or tightening with a torque wrench finish, but on you can hand tighten with these ratchets pretty firmly with no issues to the ratchet with their 250 + ftlb capacity
Now if they would make an extended version of this 2nd gen, make more of the tool body aluminum like ac delco for when you need to put out and replacement that bulky head design with something thin and simple like the Hercules extended ratchets. I would gladly pay more!
The 1/4 to 3/8 socket adapter is causing power loss but I agree its easier to just hand crank it to break it free then use the ratchet to speed the nut off
@@trevorlynch6549 the weight of the adapter can cause rotation speed loss which will then cause it to lose the power to take the nut off its adding weight to the anvil a for something like a 1/4 the tool has to push more weight and that cause it not to be able to do its job effectively
@@AntonioClaudioMichael There is no rotation when trying to break loose a fastener and after it is broken loose it doesn't matter I there is power Los.
Hi! Excellent video, but I ended up not knowing which of the two machines is more powerful! If the 1/4 or the 3/8! Could you tell me in your opinion which one you found stronger?
I would also say that unless space is extremely tight, you can use a 3/8" to 1/4" adapter : which is what I'm currently doing at work. I've got the OG 3/8" brushed Milwaukee ratchet
remember getting the 3/8 ratchet after the 1/4 and was very disappointed lol. Obviously these don't provide the breakaway of an impact, but the 3/8 seemed a bit redundant when already having the 1/4"
I have been using the 3/8 high speed for a month or daily and I prefer it over my 16 volt 3/8 Matco ratchet it doesn't have as much torque but it is so fast
"my god, shut up" Indeed 😆 Great video as usual. I like the whole cordless ratchet fastener friction Vs impact ratings and I think nyloc idea was a good call.
@@ezrawaters6653 ratchets are more low profile not every Bolt or nut has room for the right angle Impact wrench never said I wanted a 1/2 speed ratchet for breaking bolts or nuts loose I want it to remove hard to reach nuts and bolts quickly I gave an example not necessary what it want it for it was a bad example
Gotta love marketing strategies. They will sell a bunch of these and in a couple years finally release the extended reach version. Because the extended reach version will require soooo much more engineering.
Hey Guy, how are they supposed to release tools, all of the different flavors at once? The reason there are different generations of tools are due to things they find out once the tool is released into the field. Their engineers and R&D don’t have all the bases covered all the time. It takes real time field usage and feedback that goes beyond beta testing and controlled introduction.
@@martylucas8557 as opposed to milking every dollar they can LOL. I admire your optimism but marketing strategy is a very real thing. Wait and see. You seriously don't believe that Milwaukee isn't cognizant of the fact that an extended reach, high speed ratchet would sell like hotcakes I hope.
well, the torque forces between the extended metal neck end and the plastic handle are greater, you could see increased separation at the joint; but then again HF with the Hercules line seems to have managed it in one generation of ratchets
Not sure if the channel has the budget for it, but the only thing keeping me from going to a high speed model is not knowing how durable the anvil/ratcheting mechanism is on the new tool. I totally get the whole "this isn't a torque wrench" thing, but how much (loosening) torque can you apply to the tool and reasonably expect it to survive? I feel like the 3/8ths extended is pretty stout; not sure how this compares. Thanks, and great content. :)
We actually used a torque meter (in another video - below) to measure more than 100 ft-lbs of force applied manually to the ratchet. It think that 100 ft-lbs is fair, and anything more than this, you should probably break free with a longer breaker bar. Thanks for watching. ruclips.net/video/lfFolgxpSvc/видео.html
@@Shoptoolreviews Thanks Shop Tool Reviews, that's exactly the info I was looking for. I too agree 100 ft-lbs is more than fair for a little 3/8ths ratchet. Appreciate the answer, and the content. Take Care, Mike
great video review. Do you happen to have a 3/8 m12 brushed motor vs the 3/8 m12 fuel high speed comparison review? I would like to go with the first gen brushed motor but the only thing that's holding me back is not knowing how strong the head is.
Hi Tim, why not use an adapter for each one? You won’t loose toque like the big fasteners, I always welcome your opinion it’s very interesting and helpful,
The only way to truly test a tool , is in real life use in the shop, this was a good comparison between the two though. I know of a guy who uses a 1/4 drive m12 for everything in a transmission shop, I prefere 3/8 but the 1/4 works as good as 3/8 overall it seems.
The problem with the whole "this is a ratchet, not an impact" argument is actual locknuts. The higher torque of the old style has saved my hands alot on running real locknuts. Plus, not everywhere allows you to swing the ratchet.
@Shoptoolreviews to his credit, you're bench testing. Not testing on equipment outside in the cold, with any sort of rust on the fastener etc. The added torque is better for those situations. Speed doesn't mean anything if every 3 threads it's auto stopping bc it doesn't have the balls to push through any sort of resistance
I disagree about ratchets being nut runners. My Snap-On is 175rpm and 70ft-lbs. I also have an Aircat air Ratchet that's 180rpm and 130ft-lbs. Doing suspension stuff or brakes my air ratchet is amazing. On smaller cars my E-ratchet is really good. I find mine are great for disassembly but for putting things back together then the high speed is better. Like on a timing cover I have to slow down a ton to make sure I don't break or overtorque those little 10mm bolts.
Still not convinced on the 3/8 high speed ratchet, all speed no guts. I still prefer the last fuel model for more torque and less speed. At least for automotive maintenance
Yeah, speed doesn't mean much when there's corrosion on a fastener and it's auto stopping every 2 or 3 threads when it meets resistance and doesn't have the balls to push through it. At that point, the slower ratchet with more torque would actually be faster
1/4 high speed (don't need much torque with with 1/4) 3/8 snapon brute (99% of the time when fasteners and bolts I'm working on are rusted tight, the threads are messed up. And usually just caked in grease dirt and other industrial schmoo.) Then again I'm an industrial electricomechanical tech.
Complete junk if it cant remove 15 ft pounds of torque.Even if you loosend it by hand first most rusty bolts are around that torque so you would have to almost remove it by hand until the end garbage.
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I have the brushed one and is still I believe is the greatest tool ever made for aging mechanic hands
I own and use both as a German car mechanic. 1/4" is what i use a majority of the time for interior, trim and under the hood. 3/8" when i'm doing brakes, sparkplugs or dealing with 15mm+ fasteners. What really makes these ratchets shine for automotive work is a quality set of 1/4" drive and 3/8" drive extensions. Both regular and wobblies.
I had a 1/4 in Milwaukee ratchet with the black head but I replaced the head two times since I got one of the silver heads it hasn’t given me any problems in 2.5 years
@ashercatchem2022 did you replace the head with the fuel head or do you mean you purchased a different ratchet?
@@JD-dj8mh I just bought a whole new ratchet.
Tip: Get yourself a replacement anvil. A 3/8 if you have a 1/4 inch tool or a 1/4 if you have a 3/8 inch tool. They are easily changed over (snap ring). These are the only differences between these two tools (2466 and 2567). This way you can have two tools in one without having to shell out the $$$ for two separate tools.
True didnt think of that
How much are they?
Does this information still apply to the extended versions??
Great tip! Couldn’t you also get a 3/8-1/4 adapter? Or 1/4-3/8 adapter?
@@rsaunders223 could but sometimes you don’t have the space for an adapter.
Tim, you always seem to make a video or answer the questions I have in my head. Thanks for the great video.
Glad to help, and I appreciate the comments. Thanks for watching.
Seriously, he's great. Keeps my toolbox full of the good stuff.👌
Well done, answered all the the questions I had about these high speed ratchets. Thank you for the review.
Pro trick: watch movies on Flixzone. Been using it for watching lots of of movies lately.
@Pablo Aydin definitely, have been using Flixzone for since december myself =)
@Pablo Aydin Yup, I have been using flixzone for years myself :)
I have had mine for about 4 days now and it’s amazing!
Excellent video, answered all my questions regarding 1/4" vs. 3/8". Appreciate the video.
Great job man. Thank you for taking the time to show us the difference. I have a 2568 and work on Bobcat loaders but am going to get a 2567 since the 1/2" 2568 is a little big.
Thank you for another great 👍🙏 test, this is one of this tools must have, I really, really want this 😀, hopefully milwaukee will introduce extended version. Greetings from UK
This was exactly what I'm looking for. My question was between the 1/4 inch and the 3/8ths. I'm just starting out as a heavy truck/heavy emergency equipment diesel tech so I'm buying all my tools to get further into this and we do full refurbishment and upgrade, tearing it down to the frame and rebuilding it, I see 2 inch plus fasteners all the way down to smaller than 3/8ths, got air tools and big brushless impacts for the other stuff but I'm in engine cowlings or under the frame in confined space using a tite reach on the end of something or an extension with a crow's foot cuz there's no room. I love that these let you break the fasteners loose first without breaking the tool
Thanks for this video! Torque Test Channel showed these at 29 ft lbs, I'm guessing this tool is more powerful forward than in reverse.
Your video is invaluable, thankyou!
I have the brushed version, working good.
Definitely agree these are for getting threaded nuts and bolts off quicker. Hopefully for professional mechanics they don’t change the times on jobs for those working on commission because these tools are available.
Good question 9n if they will remove lock nuts and nuts with lock washers @14:20
The head on the speed ratchets look very close to the original head size of the brushed models very nice
WE commonly use the bump and run on all these cordless ratchets and sometimes with a snapon air ratchet (720b) also
Finally a new Shop Tool Reviews video. Coffee's ready 😁
Why would you need a 1/4? What, you need a foot of leverage on a 6mm bolt?
Can you give me a part number for the raised direction shifter?
Milwaukee doesn’t like to advertise it but the fuel ratchets can handle over 250 Ft lbs. in short. Tim’s right, these aren’t impact, but they can handle more strain then any other brand. I went with the high speed and love it. Hoping they come out with these in the extended because the tightneing on these and break away has always sucked. These are for removal or tightening with a torque wrench finish, but on you can hand tighten with these ratchets pretty firmly with no issues to the ratchet with their 250 + ftlb capacity
Now if they would make an extended version of this 2nd gen, make more of the tool body aluminum like ac delco for when you need to put out and replacement that bulky head design with something thin and simple like the Hercules extended ratchets. I would gladly pay more!
I just bought the 2566 and the owners manual says the torque is 0-35lbs
The 1/4 to 3/8 socket adapter is causing power loss but I agree its easier to just hand crank it to break it free then use the ratchet to speed the nut off
Adapters don't cause power loss on static tools just impacts.
@@trevorlynch6549 the weight of the adapter can cause rotation speed loss which will then cause it to lose the power to take the nut off its adding weight to the anvil a for something like a 1/4 the tool has to push more weight and that cause it not to be able to do its job effectively
@@AntonioClaudioMichael There is no rotation when trying to break loose a fastener and after it is broken loose it doesn't matter I there is power Los.
@@AntonioClaudioMichael yeah soz mate you're wrong on this one.. Especially since the 3/8 couldn't do it either
@@brettwalkom948 that's fine I'm wrong
Is broken some 10mm bolts with that 1/4 in ratchet it’s badass
Hi! Excellent video, but I ended up not knowing which of the two machines is more powerful! If the 1/4 or the 3/8! Could you tell me in your opinion which one you found stronger?
For most cars you’re better off with 3/8th drive. Most kits come with 3/8 sockets that go down to 8 mm or smaller. More versatile that way.
I would also say that unless space is extremely tight, you can use a 3/8" to 1/4" adapter : which is what I'm currently doing at work. I've got the OG 3/8" brushed Milwaukee ratchet
remember getting the 3/8 ratchet after the 1/4 and was very disappointed lol. Obviously these don't provide the breakaway of an impact, but the 3/8 seemed a bit redundant when already having the 1/4"
I've never seen this tool, are these safe to use with chrome sockets?
Yes it safe to use on chrome sockets..there is no impact
Also the dcf894 that has been displayed many times...
I have been using the 3/8 high speed for a month or daily and I prefer it over my 16 volt 3/8 Matco ratchet it doesn't have as much torque but it is so fast
Do they have the 1/2 size available? For the high speed ratchet?
No, they do not offer the high speed model in the 1/2" drive, yet. Thanks for watching.
"my god, shut up"
Indeed 😆
Great video as usual. I like the whole cordless ratchet fastener friction Vs impact ratings and I think nyloc idea was a good call.
What torque wrench did you use? Looking for a good torque wrench.
I like the torque over speed! Glad i got the slower model!
Great tool over all for an everyday mechanic better than turning by 🤚🏽
I use both 1/4 and 3/8 the most do wish they had the speed ratchet in 1/2 for just removing larger nuts faster like shocks and suspension bolts
@@ezrawaters6653 ratchets are more low profile not every Bolt or nut has room for the right angle Impact wrench never said I wanted a 1/2 speed ratchet for breaking bolts or nuts loose I want it to remove hard to reach nuts and bolts quickly I gave an example not necessary what it want it for it was a bad example
does anyone know the part code from the 1/2 gear?
Gotta love marketing strategies. They will sell a bunch of these and in a couple years finally release the extended reach version. Because the extended reach version will require soooo much more engineering.
Hey Guy, how are they supposed to release tools, all of the different flavors at once? The reason there are different generations of tools are due to things they find out once the tool is released into the field. Their engineers and R&D don’t have all the bases covered all the time. It takes real time field usage and feedback that goes beyond beta testing and controlled introduction.
@@martylucas8557 as opposed to milking every dollar they can LOL. I admire your optimism but marketing strategy is a very real thing. Wait and see. You seriously don't believe that Milwaukee isn't cognizant of the fact that an extended reach, high speed ratchet would sell like hotcakes I hope.
well, the torque forces between the extended metal neck end and the plastic handle are greater, you could see increased separation at the joint; but then again HF with the Hercules line seems to have managed it in one generation of ratchets
I’m from the future. You were 100 percent correct.
Is it possible to get the 3/8 version then buy a 1/4 raised shifter and swap it out later? Great video!
Been looking for an answer on this too! Any luck?
@@franciscohenriquez6813 I can’t find any information on it, looks like it should work though. I’ll let you know if I try it!
@@davedanger5460 I appreciate it kind sir 🙏
going to try it this week
@@brandonr.5318 sounds good let us know! Thank you
Great videos keep it up
Not sure if the channel has the budget for it, but the only thing keeping me from going to a high speed model is not knowing how durable the anvil/ratcheting mechanism is on the new tool. I totally get the whole "this isn't a torque wrench" thing, but how much (loosening) torque can you apply to the tool and reasonably expect it to survive?
I feel like the 3/8ths extended is pretty stout; not sure how this compares.
Thanks, and great content. :)
We actually used a torque meter (in another video - below) to measure more than 100 ft-lbs of force applied manually to the ratchet. It think that 100 ft-lbs is fair, and anything more than this, you should probably break free with a longer breaker bar. Thanks for watching.
ruclips.net/video/lfFolgxpSvc/видео.html
@@Shoptoolreviews Thanks Shop Tool Reviews, that's exactly the info I was looking for. I too agree 100 ft-lbs is more than fair for a little 3/8ths ratchet.
Appreciate the answer, and the content.
Take Care,
Mike
great video review. Do you happen to have a 3/8 m12 brushed motor vs the 3/8 m12 fuel high speed comparison review? I would like to go with the first gen brushed motor but the only thing that's holding me back is not knowing how strong the head is.
You have to get a run at the bolt/nut
Get ratchet moving and then jump on the bolt/nut
Actual real world mechanic
I know people do this, but I'm not sure that we want to test this way. Thanks for watching.
Hi Tim, why not use an adapter for each one? You won’t loose toque like the big fasteners, I always welcome your opinion it’s very interesting and helpful,
Good tip! We could definitely do that.
@@Shoptoolreviews I know you knew that I just reminded you lol,
Takes up more space to use adapters..
Dewalt dcf901 we need it
The only way to truly test a tool , is in real life use in the shop, this was a good comparison between the two though. I know of a guy who uses a 1/4 drive m12 for everything in a transmission shop, I prefere 3/8 but the 1/4 works as good as 3/8 overall it seems.
Are the anvils interchangeable?
Can the heads be swapped? Turn the 3/8 to 1/4 and 1/4;to 3/8‽ just curious
Related video with extended reach model here: ruclips.net/video/77eXDghCPbo/видео.html
The problem with the whole "this is a ratchet, not an impact" argument is actual locknuts. The higher torque of the old style has saved my hands alot on running real locknuts. Plus, not everywhere allows you to swing the ratchet.
We test them on nyloc lock nuts and they run them off just fine. Thanks for watching.
Dude u could use a standard chucked drill to move nylocs
Or rusty bolts that take force to turn!
@Shoptoolreviews to his credit, you're bench testing. Not testing on equipment outside in the cold, with any sort of rust on the fastener etc. The added torque is better for those situations. Speed doesn't mean anything if every 3 threads it's auto stopping bc it doesn't have the balls to push through any sort of resistance
Can you guys check out the kobalt 24v 3/8 ratchet?
Does the new M12 Fuel Ratchet has more torque?
You sacrifice a little bit of torque for the increased speed on the new ones.
@@AlexMaysonet Shit yeah!
Do they make high speed in long
Not yet, but we're hoping. Thanks for watching.
I disagree about ratchets being nut runners. My Snap-On is 175rpm and 70ft-lbs. I also have an Aircat air Ratchet that's 180rpm and 130ft-lbs. Doing suspension stuff or brakes my air ratchet is amazing. On smaller cars my E-ratchet is really good. I find mine are great for disassembly but for putting things back together then the high speed is better. Like on a timing cover I have to slow down a ton to make sure I don't break or overtorque those little 10mm bolts.
Still not convinced on the 3/8 high speed ratchet, all speed no guts. I still prefer the last fuel model for more torque and less speed. At least for automotive maintenance
Yeah, speed doesn't mean much when there's corrosion on a fastener and it's auto stopping every 2 or 3 threads when it meets resistance and doesn't have the balls to push through it. At that point, the slower ratchet with more torque would actually be faster
Love the vid… I’ll stick to my gen 1
Sure wish these could tell ya the ft lbs torque on a little screen
Interesting comparison, but it's RPM not RPMs! Revolutions Per Minute, not Revolutions Per Minutes.
Im going to buy the 3/8"...
I guess mine isnt the high speed one but whatever lol
Threads in NE Ohio don't look like that TJ...🤭
The tool was designed to break nuts/bolts loose and tighten manually.
In 10 years we'll be remove nuts in less than a quarter of a second
Definitely could be.
You already can - try using a right angle impact. They spin at 3000 rpm or so, bolts fly right off!
1/4 high speed (don't need much torque with with 1/4)
3/8 snapon brute (99% of the time when fasteners and bolts I'm working on are rusted tight, the threads are messed up. And usually just caked in grease dirt and other industrial schmoo.)
Then again I'm an industrial electricomechanical tech.
all m12 work better with the bigger batteries
I hope dewalt makes this tool
Dewalt Dose make a 12v ratchet in the mac tool line. They use the same 12v/20v charger and battery just mac branded.
There’s one coming soon for 20v and brushless. I hope a new 12v comes out with it.
Don't trust any so-called mechanics, that wear rubber gloves..
I don't blame you. Those guys are idiots. No telling where they've put their hands. Thanks for watching.
Yes! Nitrile is where it's at 😉
Fuf !
It’s because you using husky sockets 🤮lmfao jk
I hate these. Zero power behind it
Complete junk if it cant remove 15 ft pounds of torque.Even if you loosend it by hand first most rusty bolts are around that torque so you would have to almost remove it by hand until the end garbage.
this is useless for me
Excellent, so now you know that you don't need this tool. Thanks for watching.