ARCHERO: AVOID THESE ABILITY MISTAKES! | DO NOT Stack Multishot & Front Arrow + Much More!
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I hope this brings some insight on why you shouldn't stack the best abilities in Archero: Multishot and Front Arrow as well as some other ability mistakes you could be doing if running the Tornado.
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IMPORTANT PLEASE READ BEFORE COMMENTNG: It seems that the Wiki page information is a little outdated and the wording is a bit off. In regards to Ricochet's damage with Tornado, I meant reduced to, not reduced by, I used the Wiki wording without thinking, sorry about that! The Wiki states it is 30% however, in-game testing shows that it is 38% which makes the numbers 327 - 125 - 48 (still weaker than just using the Tornado as it is, doesn't change the end conclusion.)
I forgot to add that a benefit of picking up Ricochet regardless of what weapon you're using is spreading the elemental damage around to other enemies but imo, I don't pick up Ricochet to spread elemental damage as that is not my priority (my 2 cents.)
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I spent 3 days doing the math for this one. It was very tiring but I think I got it.
Archero numbers are so inconsistent sometimes... I hope you enjoy it! Taranis will be out soon but I think I might take a small few day break from the numbers game for a bit. Uploading a different video tomorrow!
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In ricochet, you said "the damage is reduced BY 30%" . it should be 229 then 160. And by "feel", i think it is more accurate. When using ricochet, i dont feel like my damage is reduced thay much (like you did in your computation which is 70% damage reduction).
I hope to clarify this. Thanks
@@melviccorate6203 Oh sorry, I meant reduced TO 30% not BY 30%, I used the Wiki wording without thinking lol. But I did some further in-game testing and the calculation percentage is actually 38 percent not 30. I think the Wiki Page for Archero is a little outdated and Ricochet actually received a buff.
This means 327 to 125 to 48 which is still weaker than the initial return damage. If you feel that it feels good for you, that's great but the numbers show that it is actually weaker. For me personally, I feel it which is why I never pick up Ricochet with Tornado especially if the reason I pick up Tornado is the OP return damage!
I hate math thanks teeds
@@SuperTeeds ohhh. I see. I'd better play rn and test it myself. Hahaha
Ps
Sorry for the confusion. I use death scythe. And i feel that the damage is not reduced by 70%. Well, at the end of the day (esp as an engineer) number is much more reliable than "feel"
Pps
Im waiting for your ch8 guide. I just got lucky once and reach floor 33. But that's it. I cant do it again 😂😂😂😂
@@melviccorate6203 No worries, I'm also a Death Scythe main and Ricochet is VERY worth it on the Death Scythe, this is only speaking about the Tornado. Ricochet is fine everywhere else. The Tornado already has reduced damage where it's 80% of the base damage and the Death Scythe has 145% damage. Massive difference! :) Coming out soon hopefully haha
recently i had bouncy wall, front arrow, mutlishot, 2 diag, 2 rear, 1 side and tornado. COULDNT SEE A THING
Dream combo
WUUL _ Stalker staff with bouncy walls, ricochet, piercing shot, stacked multi shot, 3x attack speed major, any number of diagonal or side arrows, and maybe some added death bomb effects. Decimates a stage within seconds.
Yeah, it works great until you find enemies that don't die immediately, and then you can't dodge their shots at all.
Me too
I did too but It was easier
I downloaded this game yesterday and now this just "randomly" showes up in my recomended list.....big brother is at it again.
Same!
If you clicked on an Archero ad from RUclips then of course they're going to start recommending you the videos for the ad you clicked on.
Playstore and RUclips both are google services. All user data sync to between them.
Yeah it’s getting bad
“3 front arrows is very hard to hit with all 3” Me: *Laughs In Stalker Staff Main*
Why would you use 3 front arrows for staff you monster
Me too
Exactly
...but the damage reduction to all arrows! You'd do much more damage with only one or no additional front arrows and getting diagonal arrows instead.
@@BeaDSM I said the same thing until I got triple front arrows today. It's ridiculous.
Multi shot and ricochet combo is the best... along with bouncy wall and piercing shot 👍🏾
Ziz Arthur that’s what I was wandering. Does piercing shot work well with ricochet?
Doru Cucuietu I cant comment on the stats but the “arrow” will pass through the last enemy and then rebound back if there is a wall.
I like bouncy wall with the backwards arrow as this tends to shoot it forward aswell. Although bouncy wall is one of the last abilities I pick up usually around level 7,8,9,10
Although it will ricochet first rather than pierce if that makes sense. Will only pierce if there is no nearby enemy to ricochet to
Unless your using the tornado
Omg yes
I mean , damn .... Most people just play and try to having fun with this game , but she put alot of notron and calculate on this.
And this video was helpful , thank you very much :)
The game is quite simple with minor complications.
But yeah understanding the basic complications helps you to go far.
This is the wholesome, nerdy niche things that really makes me appreciate this community💛
I literally use all those abilities in the thumbnail lol. I use the staff for magic because they follow the target.
lol i learned about having 3 front arrows the hard way 💀
I thought it looked cool so I would always get it.
I did the same exact thing brother
Same here
Me too
What do you mean?
I just discovered a great strategy for clearing levels that are filled with enemies. You need to get shadow clone, ricochet, and front arrow or multishot. The ricochet and multishot create many more chances for the shadow clones to spawn and they're also able to go into areas that are to dangerous for you to go.
I didn't know that those counted, thank you!! That's especially good with Meowgic, as when you level him up you have a chance to reviving from one of his shadow cats!
Tbh I've never actually knew damage was reduced when picking multi shot or front arrow, it just felt kinda normal in a way
Why did this got recommended to me just now? It's honestly so funny hearing teeds talking about something completely different than pokemon unite
Lmao same
About the multi arrows, I once got 2 multi, with a lot of as, freeze, bouncy and a few more arores
I basically permafreezed anyone :D
So even if mathematically you do less dmg, some combos can still be more effective (like very low dmg but hella as and headshot)
It depends on how you want to play, I play berserker lol
@@joualavedra1208 it's a 10 month old comment xD
I did the math too and I can confirm that having 2x multi and 1x front arrow would be by far the highest dps you can get on a single target without bonus effects because most chapters have at least one disappearing boss so having very high damage from a single shot fired would be the wisest choice. Stacking multishots makes the knockback effect proc twice as you said in the video so you can just push back many of the bosses into the corner using that strategy. If you are using the stalker staff NEVER get front arrow, it will increase your damage only if you dont have diagonal yet, getting diagonal is a much better trade off because you get something similar to 2x front arrow but without having your damage reduced by 25% for each front arrow so having diagonal only would theoretically increase your damage 3 times but having both one front and one diagonal would make it also 3 times because you would deal 75% of your initial damage from each of the 4 arrows you shoot (2 from front and 2 extra from diagonal). Also something you didnt say in the video is that multishot adds an extra shot to diagonal arrow, side arrow and rear arrow so this makes it by far better than front arrow dps wise.
Poison-Freeze Arrows and circles is OP as heck. Got me through most of the dungeon I’ve played.
wtf, this feels like this was made in an alternate universe holy shit. i never knew teeds did archero content before unite
Thanks for the information! It literally annoys me so much that you don’t get this kind of information in the game! They should make a weapon guide, pet guide, upgrade guide and a enemy guide in the game.
Sounds pretty boring tbh.
Idiotic idea
multishot, bouncy walls, ricochet and diagonal arrows is the mob melta
Couldn't see a shit
I personally use crossbow so bouncy wall isn't essential but crit master with high level crossbow can do 7,000+ damage and that is a rare Gale Force.. I can only imagine an Epic one
Edit: Per shot btw that is with no multishot so with multishot it is pretty OP to say the least
@@Illegal0Insanity I've got an epic one. I've hit 11k before.
Bruh crazy to find out you used to do archero content
Wtf, so stacking them reduce the damage? I thought the damage multiply because the increase of arrow and the stat stays the same, got a roadblock on chapter 3
This video is surprisingly in depth & *I was not expecting that.*
Great job on the video!
This is exactly the channel I’m looking for. I just downloaded this game and can’t put it down. Subbed. Thanks
I know right, downloaded it after playing it in an advert can't put it down now!
Love the quick paced pick up & play, find my self playing it when ever I can even if it's just one room then shut it down, open up & off you go again. 🏹🎯
I'm not even playing this game, but your explanation is so good it feels like I'm already become proplayer
Don’t usually comment just wanted to let you know I love your smite & archero content. Even though i played smite for 4 years an those vids don’t help often( even though I watch the ones about characters i like) I just started archero and these vids help a lot
Aw, that means a lot to me. Thank you!
4 years!?
CarLITTo ! Yeah ik
Wow, usually RUclipsrs who make vids of these kinds of games are like SUPER high lvl and shit and have like all the equipment almost so max. That is why I love the fact, that you are not like that, but instead more in the middle of the spectrum and still make all these great vids, which do help a lot!
I always choose HP Boost and Circles as much as possible. If neither are available then attack increase or attack speed
Multiple multi- arrows coupled with a couple attack speed upgrades has another benefit. You can essentially stun lock even a boss with any weapon when you hit fast enough.
Even if your shots are weaker... if the boss can't even return fire then it's a win.
Thank you for the guide! I recently started playing Archero, so something like this can give a huge advantage. I hope to see more Archero content on this channel in the future
I'm fond of using the tornado but when I finished stage 8 and started doin stage 9 it gets harder because of the tankier mobs, thats why I switched to death scythe. I also have similar observations with the tornado weap tho it has its pros and cons but the most important thing for me is to enjoy the game. Really appreciate your vids keep it up!
I agree, for me scythe fits stage 9 perfectly
thanks for the guide, and a soothing voice. Its quite relaxing
I always try to use these together: multi shot, attack speed, holiness or electricity, piercing, speed, ricochet, front arrows, rear arrows, and diagonal arrows, bouncy walls, and it is so op. I literally just have to stand still in boss stages and let loose and I can almost instantly kill bosses. This is also great for spiders and snakes and other mobs like that.
Thank you RUclips you have recommended this video on my homepage, because I just wanted to play the game
lol for me those are a must take. (Ricochet, Bouncy wall, front arrow, diagonal arrow etc.)
The mobs suffer when I enter the arena
My favorite combos is high speed stats. multi shot. ricochet, and the two clones shadow and the bat one 👌
TY Teeds for all your Archero help and tips on your videos
As a saw blade main, I've had 3 multishot perks, as well as multiple speed boosts.
Including knockback effect, it is hilarious to watch how quickly a boss can be pushed in whatever direction you're firing from. Pushing them into a corner and staggering them so much that they can't get an attack off is so satisfying.
An important point to understand is that when you pick multishot more than once, your chances of getting a crit hit increases. Simply because more number of arrows are fired.
This is the comment I was looking for. Video says to not pick up multi shots but pair it with crit chance it's deadly because you get crit more often than not which in return your damage is greatly increased IF you add it up.
@@ayoTUBBZ1 well it did say about headshot, maybe she just forgot.
But yeah, i combo 2 multi shots with crits and headshot. Also way better with bouncy wall and pierce.
That one time I wanted to see how low my HP can go so I took the extra life and ended up with 1 hp 👁️👄👁️
With your statement about the feels-good factor with multi-shot, i just had a run with two multi-shots and 5 attack speed buffs, and bouncy walls which ended up just looking so funny and cleared rooms like a charm.
Note: when you said dont get front arrow more than once, it’s definitely worth it when using the stalker staff, because of the homing effect
I love how my playstyle is considered so wrong and I made it further than most people lol
it's not only about the raw numbers, but also on what skills you picked. if you have multiple elemental arrows, then it is better to take as many shot multipliers as they all will apply the effects, even though the base attack values are getting lower.
love watching your guides more than playing on my own👶🏻
haha aww, thank you
Hi SuperTeeds, I hope you are well! From my experiment, if you use meowgik, the cat damage is also reduced, due to the reduction of your base damage. I hope you can mention that in your future videos.
Cat damage are reduced by around 25% when picked front arrow +1.
Also from your accent, I assume you are Australian?
I was kinda hoping this video was going to be about more abilities that you should avoid. There are so many that are kinda hard to judge sometimes. You mention the Tornado and Ricochet/Bouncy Wall Upgrades on previous videos, but I guess some people haven't heard you talk about it already.
Any plans for a future video that goes more in depth on abilities? Obviously that is asking a lot, and a lot of upgrades change usefulness based on play style and weapons/gear, but would be a neat video(s).
Love your channel
I will be making one in the future! Thank you:)
@@SuperTeeds Awesome, can't wait to watch it!
I just completed a run where I had the purple staff with these powers: Multiple arrow x 2, front arrow, diagonal arrow, side arrow, bouncy walls and piercing. I gotta tell it was completely hilarious, my whole screen was full of orbs from the staff, i couldn't see a single enemy and the just stood still and cleared rooms for like 2-3 seconds 🤣
TIP : to ignore any debuff on attack speed ( and have a very fast attack speed in general ) AFTER EACH ARROW MOVE A VERY TINY BIT. when you will stop moving you will instantly shoot another arrow so if you move for 0.2 seconds you will shoot faster than normal (at start around 0.7 seconds from MY calculations ? probably more or less). this tip will mostly work if you dont have multi shot but i still recommend getting it
Hello past Teeds.
I love when really really smart ppl are also gamers. You get lit videos like this! 👍👍
Very nice video. I am currently on chapter 8 and would always get 2 multi shot and 2 front arrow. Hopefully the change will help me get to chapter 9.
2 and 1 are best
Love the post! In my opinion ricochet is the most powerful ability in the game though. I'd take that as my first ability over multi shot any day.. just doesn't help quite as much for boss fights!
Huge information videos u do, nice to listen voice, simple good video content. Good job. Hope u enjoy your youtube work))
I didn't know about the con of the abilities. Great video i love it
3:08-3:13
Stalker Stalker(in dio voice): you see, mere mortal, I need not move,because my 17 million truth seeking orbs, passed down to me by the sage of the six second chapter-clearer, will do all the work for me!
One thing I noticed is that ricochet with peirce doesn’t work pierce just disappears
It does, only if it has no enemy to bounce to. Tried it with solo boses
Marvin Duane Chua yes but what’s the reason of having peirce while having ricochet cause it will only work when there isn’t any other mobs around the targeted mob. Right ? The arrow will always ricochet
@@ahmedelakad8875 yes i agree, i just corrected you about it not working
Them: Don’t grab multiple multi shots!
Me: Haha stalker staff go BRRRRRR.
Great video, thanks for your Archero content! Just found you, and subscribed immediately 😁
Love these videos! Very helpful and informative 😄✨
In the first area, I constantly used attack speed boost, more arrows, and bounce off walls. I shredded the final boss in 5 seconds
Tornado is my main here..
Sometimes the game just trolling me by putting both ricochet and bouncy wall on my options when i'm leveled up that i'm forced to get the whatever the third ability that showed up there..
Heck sometimes i got piercing shot, bouncy wall and ricochet all at once on my options.. (need to go on piercing so that it didn't break the tornado return benefit)
Hate it when that happens!!
@@SuperTeeds dang yeah, jeez..
Hey, I always wondered what "Strong heart" really did. It makes the healing stronger, but which one? From the angles, red hearts, levelups, or bloodthirst? Because I used to think that comboing Bloodthirst and Strong heart was OP, but I'm not sure anymore.
ye i wanna know too
I don't know too but in my opinion it's only for the red hearts
i think from the angels, i notice it once when i pick strong heart
The red hearts and angels
Thanks for the Tips 😊 God Bless!
This vid was 3 years ago and it was just now that I realized that I'm playing Archero very wrong
This was recommended to me today???
I actually thought that she just suddenly changed games hahahahahha
Ooh an Archero RUclipsr, don't see that everyday, consider me subscribed!
Small tip: if you don't lose health during a boss fight, chances are you will see the devil instead of angel. So lose some, and gain some with the lucky wheel.
Cute voice btw. You earned another subscriber.
Ok, how did youtube know that I recently got addicted to this game?
It can't be coincidence.
Thanks for the video! Just started playing, so these are good things to know! I didn't realize that the abilities reduce the damage or attack speed! :O
When canceling the attack animation, was press the side of the screen instead of swiping it for faster attack speed. It helps you focus on your character against projectile attacks and less error of movements.
Chapter 7 is the new farming site now since update
I havent made it to 7 but it seems like the drops have changed. 4 used to be decent for drop farming but now its absolute trash. However stage 5 has imcreased by miles as long as you get that far.
it's called "Stutterstep" in the video.
C.7 is a farm site even after update? I dont think so, still a hard chapter to farm and, it has less monster to kill :D
Pro Khoa on high tier weapon it is, boss drop maybe 2-4 scroll but 100% it drops scroll sometimes with equipment
So you can get 20-40 scroll every run in just less than 10mins (i use perfect epic tornado) and 15 on epic. But still best farming for now since it’s easier to finish of you’re experienced on c7.
1st 3 round of c7 is easy you can easily get multishot and front arrow using evil reward, 1 each ability is enough for the map, after you got those ability get at least 1 dmg from monster to get angel reward.
Attack speed is important when using those ability, it’s more important than Damage / Crit .
Tornado = farming
Death scythe = pushing
Tip: stage 10 of c7 has safe zone where you can dodge 80% of their attack easily
Imma actually try what you said and hope I beat chapter 5 with the tornado. Thank you 💕
What this doesn't account for is the other ability factor. If you have things such as freeze, burn, etc. that changes the equation dramatically.
It's mostly about personal playstyle, but I'd totally agree not to stack to tri-arrows (triple) as it changes the distance between arrows, so it winds up causing you to have more akin to what is directional arrows, but you lose that second shot landing on the intended target. However, if you are lucky enough to see quad-arrows it's pretty insane.
Also, having too much attack speed stacked with front arrows, bouncy wall, etc. makes it a bit more difficult to see what is going out and what is heading your way.
My main logic for multi short and +1 arrow It always raises my survivability for a few percent. Without regards for damage details.
If I can get pierce and bounce that'll be godsend and you can just stand on a spot.
Or you can go for the ricochet route instead of the bounce pierce route, it saves you one more ability and will almost always hit other targets.
Order of priority for me
Multi shot > front arrow > diagonal/side arrow > back arrow
Back arrows are worth if you have a bounce pierce combo.
I always go for crit master when the odds is always in favor of having multiple arrows.
0:23 the old avatar is so cute
I know front arrow and multishot are core abilities and i love them! But really, with scythe.. if you re lucky enough to get multiple criticals* atk boost* and atk speed* ,maybe a headshot or rage even and one of the three -multishot front arrow or ricochet, the its Game !!! I was dealing 9000+ damage with epic lvl 40 scythe! I mean there are other ways if ur lucky to have ton of fun and dmg except front arrow multishot ricochet combo ! 😌
Good vid anyway you re fresher than Iced water coco 🥥🙈💦
Excelent video, with great tips i just got this game from Huawei AppGallery and i could use some pointers
One little thing. Those dmg and as reductions are not additive but multiplicative. That means that two front arrows dont reduce your damage by 50% (25%+25%) but by 43,75% (25%*25%) that means that 2 front arrows (number of buffs, means three front arrows total) still deals more dmg than 1, but 3 does the same as 2. Same goes for multishot, you deal more dmg even with 3 but difference between 2ms and 3ms is very small (175,5% totall attack vs 179%).
Bs, bouncy wall is definitely better if you already have multi direction shots, as you can hit and run. You pick tornados mostly because it has a built in piecing effect, so you can skip that and stack another multi direction shot. I use the bat ring so I get to skip the healing on kill skill too to stack another multi direction shot.
Thank u so muchh for the info! Appreciated
Thank you so much for this guide, i really need it!! My main weapon before was brave bow but now it's tornado because of your guide..
Ayooooo I just downloaded this game and got this video recommended hell nahhh also the lightning effect with ricochet claps
Why is this recommended after 2 years? lol
Also, having 2 multishot will sometimes lead to the third shot missing an enemy since you have to move sometimes
Multi shot, two front arrows, ricochet, AND diagonal arrow is the best and clears the room fast.
Helped me to get a lot of things clear thanks !
a badass alternative to ricochet is having bouncy walls + piercing shot + dia/side/rear arrows. Finish it with a little multishot and or front arrow then it's auto-win
Around 10:15, I like to use front arrow+back arrow+multishot+bouncy wall+piercing in boss fights
Sounds like your from Australia? I don't know why we do it, but I know a LOT of Americans who LOVE everything about Australia! The closest I've been to Australia was in 1975. The year I lived in Singapore. (Loved it!)
If I'm wrong about your location, sorry but I still love your accent!
Thanks for the game help! I was stuck & now I can tear up Archero!
SuperTeeds: do not pick multi shot multiple times
Me with 3 diagonal arrows 1 side arrow 3 frond arrow and 3 multi shot bouncy wall
And stalker staff: oh no
One front arrow with one multishot is the backbone of all my combat skill. The backbone is then strengthened with ricochet and bouncy wall for crowd control of large crowds. However I get it, that’s why I NEVER EVER EVER use ricochet and bouncy wall with tornado, however I personally don’t find having many multishots a big deal. Only many front arrows cripples my power badly.
The math for multishot seems all over the place. The video says a multi-shot is a 10% decrease in damage, but then when it shows the stats broken down, the power levels don't represent that (a 10% decrease from 1647 is1482 each, but the video states 1253, if I assume the video's 1253 is correct and do a 10% decrease from THAT to 2x multi shot it should be 1127, or if we' re decreasing by 10% of the base attack it would be 1088, but the video states 917). 1x multishot says 2606/1253 each, but 1253x2 arrows is 2506, 2x multi-shot the math is closer, but then 3x multishot shows 2525 for each 613 arrow, but 613x4 is 2452. The video then says 3x multi shot is a 19 damage increase, 19 damage from what? The video seems to show a 3x multishot to be a DECREASE from 1x and 2x multishots.
I am new to the game. Your videos have really helped me!
I love how you analyze it! I'm the same way with games.
The First Points mess Up(more or less), when you Take the Mage weapon, because when its purple/Epic the bullets are Hunting the enemies...
Literally 10 vid in a row about archero and i didn't even searched ever something about that.
I've only been playing Archero for two days sporadically, but I'm already approaching the end of chapter two. I find that while piercing and multi-arrow come in handy, diagonal and ricochet do tend to be the difference makers, especially combined with fire and freeze power ups and the various orbs/circles, such as bolt and obsidian. Pretty fun game, and more layered than I expected
My Dream Team Loadout:
Brightspear/Scythe/Staff
Ricochet
Bouncy Wall
Multishot
Diagonal Arrow
Side Arrow
Rear Arrow
Bloodthirst
Headshot
Rage
Holy Touch
Extra Life
Through the Wall
Poison Arrow
Freeze Arrow
Shock Arrow
Burn Arrow
If i use sylvan instead of shade i can replace the last 4 with something else as well
My favourite combo is multi shot, bouncy walls, piercing, diagonal and bolt with a healthy amount attack/speed boosts
Good info. Your mic is amazing as well.
I like to dedicate my game to melee attacks and the distance attack, according to what I get at the start
But one time I got ricochet and I had a perfect idea, I was gonna try to get piercing shot, the one where the arrows bounce off walls, and a really high speed
Oml it was so laggy
Wow that’s so interesting because I actually never do it but stacking seemed like a good idea
For stutterstepping, you can just lightly tap the screen. You don’t even need to move.
We know. Btw she said it in another video.
traxexboobs oh. Well she by looking at her screen she seems pretty slow at it.