Browns were a very popular color choice back in the late 1970s. Seeing these episodes of Family reminds me of of all the brown and beige skirts, blouses, jackets, sweaters, slacks, and coats I wore to work back then. Even my lipstick color was a brown tone, "Sugared Maple". Wore it for years.
My daughter had this happen to her in high school, one day there was an empty seat in one of her classes, and that morning it was announced that the quiet yet popular athlete of the school took his life. Word got around the school that the poor guy was so pressured by his parents to be on the top, get a scholarship, etc. This happened in 2010 so it just goes to show that times change but people don't. Why do people like this have children only to mentally torture them for their own status, and even sadder is they will never admit the blame on themselves
My guess is these parents are trying desperately to finally *succeed* through their child, because they themselves couldn't please their own demanding, perfectionist parents.
The parents believe that it's too late for them to do or be what they wanted in life and so their kids are all they have. I didn't become overwhelmingly successful but my kids can. They figure if their kids don't succeed their lives are meaningless.
Carol Cremer You so right. The parents still don't get to brag about how wonderful he was or the scholarship their deceased child never got. These parents are having children to live through them. Having children because you want something from them is child abuse! Children don't ask to be born and shouldn't have to pay for their parent's mediocrity. People should have a psychological test similar to drivers Ed! You fail the test this means you are not fit to parent.
Upon finding out Annie was dropping the boxes and putting on a dramatic act to sell cookies, Kate told her she was out of the cookie business. The difference is today parents would high five their kids for coming up with a "creative sales strategy"....
I can remember selling Girl Scout cookies. I was doing it to help the troop, not to win anything. I didn't think it was right that some parents took the sheets to work to sell the cookies. Those parents worked in large companies.
@@MagazineladyI think it is fine to have parents help to sell the cookies, but it is the entire troop that counts. Not whose mom and dad works for the biggest company.
@@GiftSparks I think the girl who sold the most got a prize. It is not the same for the person who is working the table or canvassing the neighborhood. Plus, no skills are learned by having a parent leave the sheet on the counter in the break room.
@@Magazinelady I agree. A prize should only go to the person who earned it. It is problematic that organizations have to rely on prizes to incentivize people to sell more.
There are a lot of TV moms who I would've preferred to my mother who was never understanding and never wanted to take the time to listen, only criticize (like Marilee's mom). But I think Kate is the best. She always takes time to listen and understand. How different my life might have been if my mother had been more like her and my other favorite TV moms.
@@XxowendanxX I don't remember Florida on "Good Times" drinking too much. The family was always scrimping for money, I don't remember any of them drinking at all actually. But she was a good mom. That show was best when the father James was still on it, when they killed him off it was still good but not as good as before.
No kids have to earn affection from their parents. Shame on parents who expressed their own aggression on their kids whether on academic, musical or sports achievement.
Buddy's mother is right, the girl's suicide is all the mother's fault. Sure the girl was disappointed losing the competition. It's the mother's job to console and cheer her up. I find mothers like that are unforgivable.
Older sisters often act like this mother. Parents should never put older siblings in control of their younger siblings. This is another form of abuse. Parents it's your job to raise your children. You should go to jail when you don't face your responsibility.
I read an article by a Chinese diplomat. Chinese schools are like boot camp. The little kids have bookbags that are so heavy they can hardly carry them. Western kids are spoiled. Some of them have almost no homework. That's not an excuse for what Merrill's mother did. Her daughter was an emotional weakling and could not stand that kind of pressure. The mother should not have pressured her that way. But kids DO need to strive for success
Merrilee reminded me of my life growing up. I had a narcissistic personality disordered parent Mother growing up. I was never good enough. Ever. I liked this show because the children were always supported by their parents As I watch this in my 50’s, I am saddened. I loved this show but my Mother never allow me to watch it
@KA I'm sorry you had to grow up in that environment. Cheers to you for overcoming it! I hope you know as an adult you are more than good enough I don't know you but I can feel it🌻🌈
We didn't get to stay up and watch Family either... Thank goodness we all now get to see all the episodes! I understand your struggles growing up... What makes it harder is that people think that your mom is so "nice" - they cannot see what goes on behind closed doors!
The mother of this girl who took her own life is totally reprehensible for driving her daughter so hard & believe me, there are many parents out there that drive their kids to absolute insanity by leaning on them too hard &/or make them EARN their love.....just sickening!!
And leave it to wishy washy Doug to say don't blame the mother because the daughter was disturbed. Well Doug, how do you think she got that way? The Easter Bunny?
I totally agree with you. As a mother myself, it's my job to console and cheer up my kids when they're sad. I have witnessed two of my daughter's mother putting their daughters down when they themselves are disappointed. I felt so bad for the daughters.
@@vcrcooking I'm glad you pointed that out. I was thinking exactly the same. It's totally absurd to say that the girl had problems with herself. As you put it, her problem was her mother.
Every scripted show is reality TV! Garbage on the tube is the norm! Anyone producing decent TV is put down for not being politically correct . In other words the characters have to be dysfunctional and dependent on others.
I find Quinn Cummings to be a sensational little actress. There is always the hint of a lisp in her speech which you can tell she constantly strives to overcome (probably with speech tutoring).Nevertheless, she has a wonderful originality and creativity in her acting, precocious and gifted. 🏠🌲🏠
Jane Doe her parents died in a car crash. The Lawrence family took her in due to having agreed long before to look after their friend’s child if something happened to them.
I think people need to let poor Buddy grieve on peace. She is upset emotionally. The only person who can help Buddy is Doug. Doug talks to Buddy and helps her realize that she is not to blame for what happened.😪
Doug didn't want Buddy blaming herself for that girl commiting suicide. If Buddy had lost she would not have taken her own life. That Merilee chick was seriously troubled, probably because her mother was such a tyrant.
@@ohdiggy8038 my best friends mom was a hair stylist and she used to do our hair for us. I would sleep at my friends house more then my own LOL They thought of me as their 4th child took me on every vacation
In the video, she looks so unlike Audrey I thought maybe it was a thing where two people had the same name. But I checked and that's her. She met the band on set and dated Tom Petty's drummer for five years.
This episode is sad because I am suicidal and can relate! This isn't a joke! Everyone who is feeling depressed asking for help is a sign of bravery not weakness!
I hope you're getting help, friend. Your life is precious. You were made in the likeness and image of God, and you have gifts and abilities to offer this world. I have been down a dark path myself with depression so severe that it required electroconvulsive therapy many years ago. I still have bouts of depression periodically, and I have also struggled with severe obsessive-compulsive disorder throughout my entire life. Medication and counseling have helped me, as have my faith in Jesus Christ, my career as a journalist, my friends, and a regimen of exercise that centers on distance running. I've also learned to cope better with my dark periods by realizing that, like my happy periods, nothing lasts forever. Life is a cornucopia of experiences, and a full life will involve much pain as well as much joy. Your best days could well be ahead of you. Don't give up, please. Reach out to those who love you for support. Let me know how you are doing. I care.
@@ShawnBen Yes, I have good days and bad ones as well. I am glad that you have enlisted help. That is very important. If you are able to work, or even volunteer, that is important too, as is regular exercise, a sufficient amount of rest, and proper nutrition. Hang in there. I'll be praying for you.
I can't help but have to mention that I have witnessed two very cruel and incentive mothers of my daughter's classmates who in front of their daughters say something like why couldn't they do this and that like so and so. What's the matter with these mothers ?
Others have said it before me, but I will say it again, "Audrey is a horrible friend." She is always complaining, never supports Buddy like she should, and is quite selfish.
I had a friend who was 5 years older than me commit suicide. His dad had died a few years before and he left a note that said he wanted to be with his dad. He was 15. I have NEVER forgotten them bringing him out on a stretcher.
In my senior year, (1979-1980) one of the class clowns stopped showing up for school. He was an only child and there was so much pressure for him to succeed at everything. He started using drugs. I believe he moved away and got married. In my junior year, for an English class, the teacher put me in the middle of the two class clowns. I was voted the shyest in the class in 8th grade. I was mortified when the one in the front put his head back to laugh and pulled my head forward and the one behind me pulled my head back to laugh at me. The teacher saw that and spoke up.
I wish this episode could be seen by all parents who pressure their kids into winning things. The father who pressures his son concerning football. The mother who pressures her daughter about modeling or beauty contests. It's not right to do this to your kid! They may not all try to kill themselves but the pressure isn't helping them. You need to be proud of them whether they win or lose. Love them no matter what. Buddy shouldn't have felt guilty. Was she going to never compete for anything ever again? Competition is part of life. Most of the time it's fun. One has to both win and lose with the right attitude.
True. Poor Buddy, to feel all that guilt. Logically, Merilee DID kill herself because she lost that competition. But had she won, and then lost the city championship, she might have done it then. Not being allowed to lose, not getting any comfort, eventually she would have broken.
It is sad that this issue was happening back then, and still is, today...even more so. Pressure put on your child to succeed, is only one reason kids are committing suicide. Bullying is a big one, these days, and the internet. Show pride in your kids, for trying their best.
I wonder what these cookies really were. What brand. Obviously the prop department made up a bunch of boxes for this episode but I would love to know if these were commercial cookies because they looked good.
You're correct. The last time I tried to buy a box of Girl Scout cookies they were $5 a box and they were small! Keebler makes the same cookies for half the price.
I remember when this episode came out. It was such a weird coincidence because I was selling Girl Scout cookies that year and I complained to my parents that the other girls had their dads take their order forms to work. So my dad brought the order form downtown to work and got his buddies to order some cookies. In those days you didn't have the cookies with you, you took the order and the money and the council would gather the orders and a couple months later deliver the troop the correct number and types of cookies and wed then go and delivery the cookies to the customers. Well anyhow, between the time the orders were taken and the girls received the cookies to deliver, my dad died! It was horrible of course, but then when the cookies came my mom and aunt had to take the train downtown and deliver the cookies to all my dads friends from work. That was all kinds of horrible. I can't imagine what it must've been like for my grieving mother to deliver all those guys. I'm hoping maybe they had some comforting words for her.
I’m sorry you lost your dad so young and went through all that. My dad almost made it to his 93rd birthday and he still died too early for me. I was 52.
I always loved their home. Such a beautiful house. Just imagine how much that house is worth on todays market. July 2023. A few millions i would think. California LA area i think.
I am very very very unhappy angry hatred for everyone etc and my rotten spiteful hypocrites betrayers liers abusers family everyone hates me doesn't care about me and everyone treats me like I don't exist etc etc etc my husband doesn't care about me he don't love me etc etc... I am very very sick secondary progressive MS etc etc etc...
I agree. But when Buddy goes to the mother, her sadness is genuine. Whatever she did, she has still lost a child. What I would like to know is what was it lacking in her--the mother--that made her feel she had to push Merilee to the point where she did what she did?
@@ourtravelingzoo3740 Don't blame Wedny. Many of us comment on here, having already viewed the program. Which allows us to comment on it. If you don't want the story ruined for you--and I get that--watch first, comment afterward!
That's a very simplistic take on it. In my graduating class of less than 400, 11 classmates committed suicide that I know of in the same town this show was filmed in. Are you going to blame all those parents? It's inaccurate and unfair. Suicide is far more complex than that.
@@pezmezsez9565 I get what you say about suicide being complex. And, btw. I had a friend who did it 30 years ago. But in this story, the way the mother was portrayed cannot dismiss her as a contributing factor. James Broderick makes the kind of points you are leaning toward, and I agree, but, on some level, the mother has to take some responsibility. Whatever, I feel for someone who has to live with this the rest of their life.
@@madonnadelrey6420 I think she took the quantum leap when she did The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia. That was the most feminine she had looked up to that point. That gorgeous outfit she wore on stage when she was singing, the nice tan and jewelry, she grew some hips and started having a nice figure, and whoever was doing her make-up nailed it. That's when she started to look like a beautiful woman.
Long story. The producers thought Kristy would leave the show because she got REALLY famous. So in one episode, we learn that Doug and Kate are godparents to Annie (an actress who previously played a neighbor, lol). Annie's family had moved to New York City a few years ago. Her parents died suddenly and she was living with an Aunt but that wasn't working out. So Doug and Kate get called into a lawyer's office and SURPRISE they are reminded of this godparent contract. And Annie shows up like the next day.
Buddys main prob is thinking about ...competition ... I lost a dear friend to suicide ..when I was Fifteen ....I Quit school after that ......I wasnt worried bout the Girlscout cookies
I find Quinn Cummings to be the most annoying voice ive ever heard. Its funny , because i thought she was annoying in 78. A ton of years later im watching the show again. Yep. More annoying then 44 years ago ! Omg!
The Lawrence kids are so coddled and so sheltered and so self-centered. Buddy of course puts herself in the center of a girl's suicide, rather than objectively thinking about what she saw regarding the relationship between the girl and her mother, whose fault if truly is. Annie is a little bit of a cutthroat in this one! I am afraid to think what her character might have grown up to become .... white-collar criminal for SEC fraud, maybe?
Oh wow a mom that wore dresses 👗..cant Remember if my mom back then wore dresses in those days ..or every day in the 70s or 80s I don't think soo ?? She wasn't like ..this mom...she wore pants 👖 a.they were more fashionable lol
I'd think pizza would be in order but it's very Lawrence to want something as offputting (to me) as duck. Then again they do sit around reciting poetry..
People only like this show because they had LOUSY mothers in real life. And they try to imagine how nice it would be to have Kate as their mom and live in that beautiful house. Get over it. And try to imagine that you had a pet piglet named Quimm Cummings. Oink Oink !!
Why are you here if you don't like the show? I will also have you know that QUINN Cummings was fabulous opposite Richard Dreyfuss in "The Goodbye Girl".
I've said this all along. Kate is particularly cold. She just looks at her and pretty much says "good bye" and walks off awkwardly in scene after scene.
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Browns were a very popular color choice back in the late 1970s. Seeing these episodes of Family reminds me of of all the brown and beige skirts, blouses, jackets, sweaters, slacks, and coats I wore to work back then. Even my lipstick color was a brown tone, "Sugared Maple". Wore it for years.
I wonder what all the fascination was over that color.
@@FerrariCarr it's not as noticeable when you go to the bathroom in your pants 💩👖
I love brown and my wardrobe is full of different shades and styles
I have light olive skin. I looked good in green but terrible in brown. The 70s were not kind to me.
Earth tones were the thing in the 70s. They were banished in the 80s.
My daughter had this happen to her in high school, one day there was an empty seat in one of her classes, and that morning it was announced that the quiet yet popular athlete of the school took his life. Word got around the school that the poor guy was so pressured by his parents to be on the top, get a scholarship, etc. This happened in 2010 so it just goes to show that times change but people don't. Why do people like this have children only to mentally torture them for their own status, and even sadder is they will never admit the blame on themselves
My guess is these parents are trying desperately to finally *succeed* through their child, because they themselves couldn't please their own demanding, perfectionist parents.
That is sad. Two of my classmates killed themselves, but it wasn't until after we graduated. Both times folks were taken by surprise.
The parents believe that it's too late for them to do or be what they wanted in life and so their kids are all they have. I didn't become overwhelmingly successful but my kids can. They figure if their kids don't succeed their lives are meaningless.
Carol Cremer You so right. The parents still don't get to brag about how wonderful he was or the scholarship their deceased child never got. These parents are having children to live through them. Having children because you want something from them is child abuse! Children don't ask to be born and shouldn't have to pay for their parent's mediocrity. People should have a psychological test similar to drivers Ed! You fail the test this means you are not fit to parent.
I know how Mare’s character felt.
Sada Thompson, my favorite tv mom ever.
Awesome lady
Upon finding out Annie was dropping the boxes and putting on a dramatic act to sell cookies, Kate told her she was out of the cookie business. The difference is today parents would high five their kids for coming up with a "creative sales strategy"....
Annie should have a great career in government
I can remember selling Girl Scout cookies. I was doing it to help the troop, not to win anything. I didn't think it was right that some parents took the sheets to work to sell the cookies. Those parents worked in large companies.
@@MagazineladyI think it is fine to have parents help to sell the cookies, but it is the entire troop that counts. Not whose mom and dad works for the biggest company.
@@GiftSparks I think the girl who sold the most got a prize. It is not the same for the person who is working the table or canvassing the neighborhood. Plus, no skills are learned by having a parent leave the sheet on the counter in the break room.
@@Magazinelady I agree. A prize should only go to the person who earned it. It is problematic that organizations have to rely on prizes to incentivize people to sell more.
Sada Thompson is my favorite Mom on television 📺. She's honest and understanding.
There are a lot of TV moms who I would've preferred to my mother who was never understanding and never wanted to take the time to listen, only criticize (like Marilee's mom). But I think Kate is the best. She always takes time to listen and understand. How different my life might have been if my mother had been more like her and my other favorite TV moms.
My faborite was Florida Evans but she drink too much
@@XxowendanxX I don't remember Florida on "Good Times" drinking too much. The family was always scrimping for money, I don't remember any of them drinking at all actually. But she was a good mom. That show was best when the father James was still on it, when they killed him off it was still good but not as good as before.
@@alondralabute2310 but you she was in da bafroom smokin reefa win the cameras was not runnin
I will not give it away, but the choices the writers made about Buddy at the very end were nothing short of brilliant. Great show, important episode.
Buddy is cute but that outfit is cringe
It's the 70's. What do you expect.
Regarding Buddy's outfit.
What a great drama they teach morals and values and how they affect your life I am so glad I grew up watching this awesome show thanks
Turn in your cookies, Cookie! Gotta love Kate!!
Am I the only one who wants to try some Pasadena Posies Pralines after watching this?
No you are not the only one!
I don't know about all that but Willie sure was a Los Angeles loser
Willie wastes so much time!!!
They Do Look yummy
No kids have to earn affection from their parents. Shame on parents who expressed their own aggression on their kids whether on academic, musical or sports achievement.
Buddy's mother is right, the girl's suicide is all the mother's fault. Sure the girl was disappointed losing the competition. It's the mother's job to console and cheer her up. I find mothers like that are unforgivable.
Older sisters often act like this mother. Parents should never put older siblings in control of their younger siblings. This is another form of abuse. Parents it's your job to raise your children. You should go to jail when you don't face your responsibility.
I read an article by a Chinese diplomat. Chinese schools are like boot camp. The little kids have bookbags that are so heavy they can hardly carry them. Western kids are spoiled. Some of them have almost no homework. That's not an excuse for what Merrill's mother did. Her daughter was an emotional weakling and could not stand that kind of pressure. The mother should not have pressured her that way. But kids DO need to strive for success
Merrilee reminded me of my life growing up. I had a narcissistic personality disordered parent Mother growing up. I was never good enough. Ever. I liked this show because the children were always supported by their parents
As I watch this in my 50’s, I am saddened. I loved this show but my Mother never allow me to watch it
KA ...I am in my fifties as well ...So many friends died to drugs and suiside .....a Question ..without an answer
@KA I'm sorry you had to grow up in that environment. Cheers to you for overcoming it! I hope you know as an adult you are more than good enough I don't know you but I can feel it🌻🌈
We didn't get to stay up and watch Family either... Thank goodness we all now get to see all the episodes!
I understand your struggles growing up... What makes it harder is that people think that your mom is so "nice" - they cannot see what goes on behind closed doors!
I hope things are much happier for you now ⚘
That is so sad!
The mother of this girl who took her own life is totally reprehensible for driving her daughter so hard & believe me, there are many parents out there that drive their kids to absolute insanity by leaning on them too hard &/or make them EARN their love.....just sickening!!
And leave it to wishy washy Doug to say don't blame the mother because the daughter was disturbed. Well Doug, how do you think she got that way? The Easter Bunny?
@@vcrcooking Exactly!!👍 Denial is an incredibly damaging dynamic.
@@lgempet2869 They were still denying when Annie came to them and then Kate's mother.
I totally agree with you. As a mother myself, it's my job to console and cheer up my kids when they're sad. I have witnessed two of my daughter's mother putting their daughters down when they themselves are disappointed. I felt so bad for the daughters.
@@vcrcooking
I'm glad you pointed that out. I was thinking exactly the same. It's totally absurd to say that the girl had problems with herself. As you put it, her problem was her mother.
I was fortunate to grow up in this time! Tv shows like this don't exist anymore!
I loved this show! I never missed it. So special.
Every scripted show is reality TV! Garbage on the tube is the norm! Anyone producing decent TV is put down for not being politically correct . In other words the characters have to be dysfunctional and dependent on others.
Why does every show got to be cop show, hospital show or reality show.
Shows like this didn’t exist back then either. Lol. THis was a very unique show.
I never missed this show. I never watched it, and I never missed it.
Looks like Mare Winningham is in this episode, I have had a crush on her since day one. Very underrated actress and down to Earth.
Kristi is such a treasure
I WISH THEY WOULD PUT THIS SHOW BACK ON TV . BUT I AM STILL LOVEING WATCHING IT ON RUclips 😎❤👌👍
Doug being a wet noodle again. "You can't put all the blame on Mrs. Kalisher..." Yes Doug, we can and we do.
I'm not Doug's biggest fan but he broke it down for Buddy perfectly. One of his shining moments.
WOW! An honest show about a nice family dealing with life (and death).
I find Quinn Cummings to be a sensational little actress. There is always the hint of a lisp in her speech which you can tell she constantly strives to overcome (probably with speech tutoring).Nevertheless, she has a wonderful originality and creativity in her acting, precocious and gifted. 🏠🌲🏠
I like her and I find Annie to be a cool lil kid
Is she like part of the family? I've only watched a few of these, don't remember watching them in the 70's.
Jane Doe her parents died in a car crash. The Lawrence family took her in due to having agreed long before to look after their friend’s child if something happened to them.
@@cclaussen yup I ran into that episode after I asked the question..makes sense now.
Her cookie box-drop technique, though! Heh-heh! That litt'l rascal! 😏
I think people need to let poor Buddy grieve on peace. She is upset emotionally. The only person who can help Buddy is Doug. Doug talks to Buddy and helps her realize that she is not to blame for what happened.😪
Doug didn't want Buddy blaming herself for that girl commiting suicide. If Buddy had lost she would not have taken her own life. That Merilee chick was seriously troubled, probably because her mother was such a tyrant.
I had that same hair cut Kristy McNichol had LOL
@@ohdiggy8038 my best friends mom was a hair stylist and she used to do our hair for us. I would sleep at my friends house more then my own LOL They thought of me as their 4th child took me on every vacation
Growing up, this was my favorite show! It really was beyond its time. The writing and cast were perfect. Most if not all shows these days are trash!
The only trash on this show is Nancy
A grown up Audrey later appears in Tom Petty's Don't Come Around Here No More video as Alice.
In the video, she looks so unlike Audrey I thought maybe it was a thing where two people had the same name. But I checked and that's her. She met the band on set and dated Tom Petty's drummer for five years.
This episode is sad because I am suicidal and can relate! This isn't a joke! Everyone who is feeling depressed asking for help is a sign of bravery not weakness!
I hope you're getting help, friend. Your life is precious. You were made in the likeness and image of God, and you have gifts and abilities to offer this world. I have been down a dark path myself with depression so severe that it required electroconvulsive therapy many years ago. I still have bouts of depression periodically, and I have also struggled with severe obsessive-compulsive disorder throughout my entire life. Medication and counseling have helped me, as have my faith in Jesus Christ, my career as a journalist, my friends, and a regimen of exercise that centers on distance running. I've also learned to cope better with my dark periods by realizing that, like my happy periods, nothing lasts forever. Life is a cornucopia of experiences, and a full life will involve much pain as well as much joy. Your best days could well be ahead of you. Don't give up, please. Reach out to those who love you for support. Let me know how you are doing. I care.
@@johnhartsock1891 Thank you for your advice. I am doing well for now. I have good days and bad ones. I am hanging in there. I am seeking help.
@@ShawnBen Yes, I have good days and bad ones as well. I am glad that you have enlisted help. That is very important. If you are able to work, or even volunteer, that is important too, as is regular exercise, a sufficient amount of rest, and proper nutrition. Hang in there. I'll be praying for you.
@@johnhartsock1891 I am currently employed.
@@ShawnBen Good! That is a positive in today's economy. Do you enjoy your job?
Annie had better luck with the cookie business than Bobby Brady did with hair color
Peter Brady sold cookies when he was a Sunflower Girl.
@@shadypines9929 that was before the Carolina Panthers hired him as a cheerleader
We need this show rebooted.😀
It would never work. The cast is what makes this show.
@@johnfd0210 Outside of the parents, it could work. All the Lawerence kids are still alive. Maybe a TV movie would be better.
I can't help but have to mention that I have witnessed two very cruel and incentive mothers of my daughter's classmates who in front of their daughters say something like why couldn't they do this and that like so and so. What's the matter with these mothers ?
They’re single. No fathers in the home.
A lot of boys in football and sports because of THEIR PARENTS. They often will never admit it but one sees it a lot on the sidelines of games.
This was one of me and my mother's fave show. I loved their house
YES!! Just started watching this and how lucky you've started uploading. Thanks!
The principal of Buddy's school was "Fred Bunker", "Archie's" brother on "Archie Bunker's Place".
She had a witch of a mother, that's why she killed herself. Maybe the mother had wanted it for herself.
Chelsea?
This show was the best!
Family!!!
What a perfect family!
Reading Books are Uplifting and inspiring STILL . Merry Christmas in SPIRIT
Duck on a weekday! I am 53 and have never had duck.
58...still no duck.
56 and no duck either. No big deal though - I really don't give a duck. lol see what I did there?
You aren't missing anything.
55 no duck in sight
Kristy just turned 60 and has never had duck. She's still a virgin.
Others have said it before me, but I will say it again, "Audrey is a horrible friend." She is always complaining, never supports Buddy like she should, and is quite selfish.
Yeah but she's so cute though
@@XxowendanxXShe looked like a Breck girl. Look it up.
I looked her up! She played Alice in a Tom Petty video!
@spiritmatter1553 she was a hottie. No two ways about it
@caronbranstetter6095 and she dated Tom pettys drummer for 5 years. Not exactly a rock star but not too shabby
Mary Clare Costello & Kristy McNichol also appeared in "Apple's Way" together. Loved the series & remember it well.
Oh, I forgot about that show. I loved it too. Ronny Cox was the dad, right?
@@lisalewis5664 He was the dad! Always liked him in that role.
Merrillee should have tied herself to Willie before she jumped off that cliff
I had a friend who was 5 years older than me commit suicide. His dad had died a few years before and he left a note that said he wanted to be with his dad. He was 15. I have NEVER forgotten them bringing him out on a stretcher.
In my senior year, (1979-1980) one of the class clowns stopped showing up for school. He was an only child and there was so much pressure for him to succeed at everything. He started using drugs. I believe he moved away and got married. In my junior year, for an English class, the teacher put me in the middle of the two class clowns. I was voted the shyest in the class in 8th grade. I was mortified when the one in the front put his head back to laugh and pulled my head forward and the one behind me pulled my head back to laugh at me. The teacher saw that and spoke up.
What does that have anything to do with the subject of this episode?
I wish this episode could be seen by all parents who pressure their kids into winning things. The father who pressures his son concerning football. The mother who pressures her daughter about modeling or beauty contests. It's not right to do this to your kid! They may not all try to kill themselves but the pressure isn't helping them. You need to be proud of them whether they win or lose. Love them no matter what.
Buddy shouldn't have felt guilty. Was she going to never compete for anything ever again? Competition is part of life. Most of the time it's fun. One has to both win and lose with the right attitude.
Kate is rocking the Julia Child look!
Too much parental pressure upon a sensitive soul. Resonates today, as well.
True. Poor Buddy, to feel all that guilt. Logically, Merilee DID kill herself because she lost that competition. But had she won, and then lost the city championship, she might have done it then. Not being allowed to lose, not getting any comfort, eventually she would have broken.
yes, youth suicide terrible rate in Japan
It is sad that this issue was happening back then, and still is, today...even more so. Pressure put on your child to succeed, is only one reason kids are committing suicide. Bullying is a big one, these days, and the internet. Show pride in your kids, for trying their best.
I love Mare. Now in AHS. ❤
Great mom!
This episode is so current it is frightning. And as an educator I urge anyone with emotional concerns to get some help asap. I care.
GREAT!!
A $1 a box! The 70's. Today it would cost $5 a box. Maybe more. And the cookies were big. Today they would be the size of a set of eyeballs!!!
I wonder what these cookies really were. What brand. Obviously the prop department made up a bunch of boxes for this episode but I would love to know if these were commercial cookies because they looked good.
You're correct. The last time I tried to buy a box of Girl Scout cookies they were $5 a box and they were small! Keebler makes the same cookies for half the price.
Girl Scout cookies are so good, every time I have some I want samoa
@@kerriethompson2073 it's now 2024 and Girl Scout cookies are six dollars a box
Who does Audrey think she is she's not above Buddy how come we never see her working hard on anything.
She's a lot better looking and smarter too
Kristy was adorable
I remember when this episode came out. It was such a weird coincidence because I was selling Girl Scout cookies that year and I complained to my parents that the other girls had their dads take their order forms to work. So my dad brought the order form downtown to work and got his buddies to order some cookies. In those days you didn't have the cookies with you, you took the order and the money and the council would gather the orders and a couple months later deliver the troop the correct number and types of cookies and wed then go and delivery the cookies to the customers. Well anyhow, between the time the orders were taken and the girls received the cookies to deliver, my dad died! It was horrible of course, but then when the cookies came my mom and aunt had to take the train downtown and deliver the cookies to all my dads friends from work. That was all kinds of horrible. I can't imagine what it must've been like for my grieving mother to deliver all those guys. I'm hoping maybe they had some comforting words for her.
Those girl scout cookies were so good, I always wanted to order Samoa
I’m sorry you lost your dad so young and went through all that. My dad almost made it to his 93rd birthday and he still died too early for me. I was 52.
Reading Books sounds exciting
What's a book?
I love Willie's teeth whistle ❤️
Thank you
Great episode. I went through the same thing Buddy went through. My classmate committed suicide in 1984.
I knew a few people who suicided and I can’t believe they had no idea that they were very good and cared for.
Mariclare Costello is hardened in this episode.
Been watching Mare in the Outsider on HBO.
Another great episode with a good message but Audrey gets on my nerves.
I'll take AUDREY over piglet Annie any day .
I always loved their home. Such a beautiful house. Just imagine how much that house is worth on todays market. July 2023. A few millions i would think. California LA area i think.
Try 5.5 mil.....
Pasadena, CA.
Merilee Kailsher was a very unhappy child
I am very very very unhappy angry hatred for everyone etc and my rotten spiteful hypocrites betrayers liers abusers family everyone hates me doesn't care about me and everyone treats me like I don't exist etc etc etc my husband doesn't care about me he don't love me etc etc... I am very very sick secondary progressive MS etc etc etc...
She didn’t get there ALL by herself....her mother was TOTALLY responsible here.
What was your first clue?
What a dreadful mother to put so much pressure on her daughter that she killed herself.
I agree. But when Buddy goes to the mother, her sadness is genuine. Whatever she did,
she has still lost a child. What I would like to know is what was it lacking in her--the mother--that made her feel she had to push Merilee to the point where she did what she did?
Wendy Gillard way to ruin it for us
@@ourtravelingzoo3740 Don't blame Wedny. Many of us comment on
here, having already viewed the program. Which allows us to comment
on it. If you don't want the story ruined for you--and I get that--watch first,
comment afterward!
That's a very simplistic take on it. In my graduating class of less than 400, 11 classmates committed suicide that I know of in the same town this show was filmed in. Are you going to blame all those parents? It's inaccurate and unfair. Suicide is far more complex than that.
@@pezmezsez9565 I get what you say about suicide being complex. And, btw. I had a
friend who did it 30 years ago. But in
this story, the way the mother was portrayed cannot dismiss her as a
contributing factor. James Broderick
makes the kind of points you are
leaning toward, and I agree, but, on
some level, the mother has to take
some responsibility. Whatever, I feel
for someone who has to live with this
the rest of their life.
This was the season when Kristy started to become quite the looker. Gorgeous as hell.
MadonnaDelRey I so wanted to look like her!
Shelley I don't blame you! And she was even prettier on the show Empty Nest.
@@shelley6477 I just wanted her kitchen!!
MJs Smile Just because she's a tomboy doesn't mean she's a man. Kristy McNichol is a girl not a boy.
@@madonnadelrey6420 I think she took the quantum leap when she did The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia. That was the most feminine she had looked up to that point. That gorgeous outfit she wore on stage when she was singing, the nice tan and jewelry, she grew some hips and started having a nice figure, and whoever was doing her make-up nailed it. That's when she started to look like a beautiful woman.
🤔 It wasn’t Buddy’s fault, and who noticed that the girl’s mother was extremely harsh and demanding of her daughter who committed suicide?⁉️
ok.when Annie dropped the first box it was an accident.but to do that for her other sales was a LIE.and liars shouldnt win.
She was practicing for a career in government
Whose this Annie kid? Why is she with the Lawrence’s?
Long story.
The producers thought Kristy would leave the show because she got REALLY famous.
So in one episode, we learn that Doug and Kate are godparents to Annie (an actress who previously played a neighbor, lol). Annie's family had moved to New York City a few years ago. Her parents died suddenly and she was living with an Aunt but that wasn't working out.
So Doug and Kate get called into a lawyer's office and SURPRISE they are reminded of this godparent contract. And Annie shows up like the next day.
@@girlgeniusnyc272 ty for explaining...
They found her in a garbage can
Gratidão tava sem entender
Buddys main prob is thinking about ...competition ... I lost a dear friend to suicide ..when I was Fifteen ....I Quit school after that ......I wasnt worried bout the Girlscout cookies
I find Quinn Cummings to be the most annoying voice ive ever heard. Its funny , because i thought she was annoying in 78. A ton of years later im watching the show again. Yep. More annoying then 44 years ago ! Omg!
You sound like one of those chumps who think he/she is perfect.
The Lawrence kids are so coddled and so sheltered and so self-centered. Buddy of course puts herself in the center of a girl's suicide, rather than objectively thinking about what she saw regarding the relationship between the girl and her mother, whose fault if truly is.
Annie is a little bit of a cutthroat in this one! I am afraid to think what her character might have grown up to become .... white-collar criminal for SEC fraud, maybe?
Teens ARE self-centered though. I was, as a teenager. So were you.
Annie would be good in a movie based on Piglet from Winnie the Pooh.
Leticia??? No wonder they call her Buddy.
i remember this episode
it wasn't Buddy's fault
it was that girl's bitchy, pushy. controlinng mom's fault
@@edwardnardone7485 it was Willie's fault
Annie gave it a good shot selling Posie pralines Not an easy sell
These days, no one would let a kid her age sell on a sidewalk without any adult supervision.
@@cclaussen Back then people had the every person for themselves type of attitude. Helicopter parents frighten me.
Shawn Ben I know! I grew up in close to the same time period. I was about Timmy’s when this show aired.
@@cclaussen I dated a woman who pulled out a box of Posie pralines every time we started making out!
@@johnhartsock1891 I heard they make great condoms
How did Buddy classmate killed herself and why did sho do it for
They told her she had to go on a date with Willie
And touch his gross hair ! @@XxowendanxX
@@LannieLord only the hair on his head; he has no pubes
That's a lot of mature accountability for one...
The white guy that lost the contest at 6:33 has Asian parents..must have been adopted.
No he was their kid.
When he was born they named him Sum-Ting Wong
Mrs Evers from American Horror Story Hotel
Loved annie
Me too!! 👍💙😊
Yuk. @@XxowendanxX
Your going out of the cookie business.
Oh wow a mom that wore dresses 👗..cant Remember if my mom back then wore dresses in those days ..or every day in the 70s or 80s I don't think soo ?? She wasn't like ..this mom...she wore pants 👖 a.they were more fashionable lol
I suspect the dresses were the actress’s personal preference.
Why did Buddy classmate kill herself
A narcissistic pushy, arrogant parent who showed her no love but to be the best.
Because they forced her to read dopey questions on RUclips
Duck?
I'd think pizza would be in order but it's very Lawrence to want something as offputting (to me) as duck. Then again they do sit around reciting poetry..
Duck is a fine meal 😊
Set her right ...let no suicide stand in your WAY >>>
I'm not a Doug fan but this was his shining moment
He knocked it out of the park
Latitia?! What were they thinking when coming up with such a name?
😁
Jennifer Wilcox She was named after Kate’s mother
Mrs T Leticia is an old name. And she was named after Doug's mother. Kate's mother was Hattie.
My daughter's name is Letitia. It is an old name
@@michelecarter5599 Beautiful name!
People only like this show because they had LOUSY mothers in real life. And they try to imagine how nice it would be to have Kate as their mom and live in that beautiful house. Get over it. And try to imagine that you had a pet piglet named Quimm Cummings. Oink Oink !!
Katie was my mother in law and was awesome at it
Why are you here if you don't like the show? I will also have you know that QUINN Cummings was fabulous opposite Richard Dreyfuss in "The Goodbye Girl".
Wait in part one no one died
They Never really treat Quinn Cummings like part of their family. They just don't warm up to her like they do to the other kids.
I've said this all along. Kate is particularly cold. She just looks at her and pretty much says "good bye" and walks off awkwardly in scene after scene.
She was a bastid from a basket
Annie talks and acts like a robot so often, they're probably confused about whether she's human or not.
Sorry but i don't like annie...the show just doesn't need her.
She's a little piglet.