Youre right. This is something that happens to all art mediums once the gamechangers have experimented and came up something that just takes everyone by storm. Then people will just bite their style and the genre becomes somewhat inbred, with artists only taking inspiration from the exact same genre and place they are a part of! Nowadays we dont get people like SGP or anyone else that looks outside the status quo and combines all kinda different shit.
i could name ten artists "combining all kinda different shi" but people are so hyper-focused on the underground rap scene that they'll never expand enough to find said artists
the only way he could be considered "appropriating black culture" is if he (for example) decided to get dreads and say the n word like 6ix9ine is a decent example of what appropriation in rap would look like, not some random white kid making songs on bandlab
If you like Pluggnb mixed with Gangsta Rap and some hilarious bars check out RXK Nephew and RX Papi if you havent already. Mad different. It's like Plugg, but rapping about selling crack lmao
It’s crazy hearing how people think what was underground cause shwb was my era and I wasn’t rlly fucking with the 2018 slayworld weiland type stuff cause I always thought it was like mid but tbh seeing xaviersobased and Nettspend is refreshing and I do agree it’s rlly is just a repeat but end of the day it rlly just preference
honestly my opinion on the matter is that, when there actually was and there still is , but a huge underground scene with unkown people years ago, like that was awesome . but it seems like nowadays instead of making music for the enjoyment of it , and seeking for enjoyment. but now people are just obsessed with everything else but it, it just seems all like a status popularity contest, and i know its always been but holy jeez. like the reason why spaceghostpurrp and that era of people was golden for underground was becuase they were literally just unknown. like i miss when underground rappers, were just unknown, like not labeled underground, but just simply not known yet. like there so much talent brewing always it just depends as to where you look, and the reason why all this the underground is dead bs is being talked about always is because ljke all ts osamason and etc isnt even like near underground that shit is popular atp, like everywherw u go that dudes name is in someones mouth. i dont know if im communicating myself correctly, but this whole new meaning to the "underground" is so whack, corny, and complete opposite of what it actually is and means .
I think the problem is well for 1 mainstream has gotten lazy and boring so ppl are looking towards these niggas paying more attention to the underground so it's making harder to stay underground
Bruh I give Xaviersobased a pass because he's clearly aware of the BasedGod and though his music might not be my thing, he's doing his thing! Now onto Nettspend - Why not hate on Lil Shine? He's not a POC and the homie let the n-word slip on a live and here we are hating on this kid because hes white? People got their priorities fucked up man. Just sayin.
@evilassjitnem actually you guys do have a point. I forgot about how MUCH mfs hated Shine lmao - my thing is. it's FOOKN DIGICORE/PLUGGNB it's not like they're GATEKEEPING goddamn.. BOOM BAP NAS' ILLMATIC or something. Pluggnb is literally just a MapleStory 🍁 synthesizer over 808 bass. Lmao people be takin life too seriously To be frank if RXK nephew didn't exist, Pluggnb would be one of the whitest genres out there on paper haha
i get what you mean about the underground opinion its gotten to the put where there are so many people that are always searching for new music and I feel like social medias and tik tok has made it so easy for these guys to blow up and go mainstream and then after that were just look for the next underground rapper to come up its a cycle
@@SethTraplifeGLO999 he had dj phat placements after 2 songs, he was getting posted by 130world after 1 snippet and he got into the NYC scene after 2 months of posting.
Yhh ur right about beats and flows being quickly saturated as soon as they can be replicated…”type beat culture”. With the music coming out of the underground: Papasquat called it ADHD music or something like that- think both when he reacted to Xaviersobased - patchmade and Hi-C - No emotionzz… I think now the underground is just stuck in a spiral of making abrasive but clunkier beats until it’s unintelligible. We are going to be hearing a lot more jerk type best for a year or two…
TLDR; I like Xav and what he’s “done” but Yh the “underground” is in a cycle of ppl waiting for the new thing then copying basically. There’s a mixtape by James Ferraro: “Bebetunes- Inhale C4” it predicts how fucked up cloud rap beats would be in the future but predates this. It was an “ironic” take on 2010s hip hop production but even served as an inspiration for Bladees sound. You should give it a listen. Great video too🤞🏾
it’s called inspiration. You can’t belittle someone for not ushering in something completely unheard of and deciding to expand upon an already existing sound wave deeming them as a copycat; you can form new sounds from sounds. People have been “waiting for the newest thing to copy” for a hot minute that’s not new behavior that’s just what comes with this it’s not some “new age underground music spiral”. There is however a lack of pioneers ushering in completely new stuff compared to older eras
@@ogarrt didn't mean for my comment to come off as a fully negative critique- was adding onto the video. By "stuck in this spiral" I was referring to new styles of production effortlessly becoming more maximalist and crazy as it has been for a while- its no surprise that Xavs influences are Lex Luger (Save Me- Chief Keef) and Bladee.
Only great underground rappers doing their own thing right now off the top of my head imo are Jace, Devstacks (produces most of his music and kinda reminds me of prime Pierre) , RXK Nephew (Dosent take music super serious makes funny songs but refreshing bangers also) , and even tho he takes a lot of influence from SoFaygo….Onlybino. Slimesito directs a lot of his music videos and goes hard asf almost all the time and Slime Dollaz is like a new wave plugg artist.
U have trash taste then. Look at the trenches music vid he taking that ken/opium sound into more of an underground sound route instead of sticking to mainstream conformity like they do. The game is getting good again like 2015-2019 the game is in a revival stage
Ngl i miss th old 2015 underground, $b, shwb, nightlovell and etc. Uzi n carti was cool around that time but the people i listed was THEM. THIS NEW WAVE JUST MESHED AND JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE
This is so funny cuz its just a cycle that keeps repeating itself in music. Something new comes out, everyone hates on it, then its cool af and a new trend, all of a sudden, 5 years later when all the wagon riders find it
@@zyde1179 a lot of people, just because your in the underground doesn't mean you have to use shitty stuff, if you buy the best shit your not magically gonna get popular as fuck, it's still gonna be hard to get discovered
Everyone is influenced by everyone. Saying he’s influenced by Chief Keef is rhetorical, so has everyone. In that case Summrs sounds like Uzi cuz he sings on semi-electronic rap beats. Bro made 0 points. Not even good at hating. Instead of making a great video about how influence makes more influence. How Summrs created Plugg n B and how Nettspennd, Yhapojj, Xavier and many others are continuing the Plugg n B sound, you made a mid ass video about how they aren’t the same.
"xaviersogay" lol, rap should be for every one i agree, like why tf would you hate on some kids having fun making music unless it's really really bad, saddos
Bro says summrs bleh bleh situation is different 😂 just imagine what 2011 - 2017 SC era old heads reacted when summrs snip came out 😂 it was TRASHEDDD .
Brooo they called the nigga gxy and everything cause of that polaroid shirt and how his movements was in the snip 😭 but he deadass a low-key prodigy that's a big key difference
me personally i like nettspend but i get the criticism that he’s not doing anything new apart from his voice and a few of his flows.. people allowed to have their own opinion on music and not bash each other for it but there’s a line that should be drawn sometimes unless u like lil xan or sum
the reason the underground has stagnated is because everyone uses the same recycled fucking drum kits and everyone got bored so they have to be making some different shit with the same sounds and we’re literally running out of combinations of sounds u can do with this shit
![Nettspend - We Not Like You [Behind the Scenes]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1_C17s4vst8/mqdefault.jpg)
i’ve seen him more than i’ve seen my family
I ain’t never seen this nigga 😭
rs 😭😭
💀
Nah Fr Ts mf popping up everywhere I’m getting tired of Ts atp
That’s the real reason they hate 😂 don’t wanna see him on the feed gets annoying
Xaviersobased and nettspend bring out the underground old heads lol
literally its crazy how the mere mention of them angers ppl
Old heads just pretending to like this shit to not look outta touch. Im a newgen and this shit some booty
Or maybe cause his shit is actually dirt water
"ok" is the one of the hardest underground producers rn
Facts fr and I barley see anybody acknowledge that going crazy this year
DJ SMOKEY goes harder
7:10 bro is becoming an “old head” of the underground 😂
I definitely am I’m not ashamed of it
Ik, it's the circle of life. @@UVXCX
ngl mentioning omen13 makes me feel old ast cause that really was a long ass time ago.
@@UVXCX u an idiot bra go back to ur 9/5
@@darkseedfilenah fr it’s crazy to look back at how long it’s been, omen goes crazy tho I was bumping his shi heavy
Youre right. This is something that happens to all art mediums once the gamechangers have experimented and came up something that just takes everyone by storm. Then people will just bite their style and the genre becomes somewhat inbred, with artists only taking inspiration from the exact same genre and place they are a part of! Nowadays we dont get people like SGP or anyone else that looks outside the status quo and combines all kinda different shit.
fr, sgp is an anomaly and ppl dont ever appreciate how rare it is for somebody like that to come along
@@oxydayzI mean ppl probably Don't give him that much credit cause of the things he's done
maybe all these upcoming generations are just short attention span mfs. thanks tik tok
Great example
i could name ten artists "combining all kinda different shi" but people are so hyper-focused on the underground rap scene that they'll never expand enough to find said artists
I like how you said you find out as much as you can before sharing your opinion...very rare these days
I honestly couldnt care less what people say Nettspend is so hard and he only keeps getting better with every listen
TALK YO SHIT ZYBER
May God forgive you
Onggg
you clearly dont know about the hyperpop scene
@@Kenneth_AngerWe dont care
the only way he could be considered "appropriating black culture" is if he (for example) decided to get dreads and say the n word
like 6ix9ine is a decent example of what appropriation in rap would look like, not some random white kid making songs on bandlab
Literally
If he got dreads that’s still not appropriating it’s a hairstyle that’s famous.
@@kidzn yes of course wearing a hairstyle rooted in black culture and only truly exclusive to black people isn’t appropriation. got it.
@@luxxias no one care bro
@@luxxiasmiddle easterns have done it too and if you have curly hair you can do it or straight hair so not really exclusive
nettspend is actually hard, better than other rappers ive heard🤷🏻♀️
terrible music
i hope someone makes/popularises a crazy sub genre again like summrs did with pluggnb
That shit was garbo
If you like Pluggnb mixed with Gangsta Rap and some hilarious bars check out RXK Nephew and RX Papi if you havent already. Mad different. It's like Plugg, but rapping about selling crack lmao
@@basedsouljahive heard some of their songs but mostly that non-pluggnb sh put me on some of theirs
@@basedsouljahive heard some of their songs but mostly that non-pluggnb sh put me on some of theirs
bait used to be believable@@coajdka
It’s crazy hearing how people think what was underground cause shwb was my era and I wasn’t rlly fucking with the 2018 slayworld weiland type stuff cause I always thought it was like mid but tbh seeing xaviersobased and Nettspend is refreshing and I do agree it’s rlly is just a repeat but end of the day it rlly just preference
honestly my opinion on the matter is that, when there actually was and there still is , but a huge underground scene with unkown people years ago, like that was awesome . but it seems like nowadays instead of making music for the enjoyment of it , and seeking for enjoyment. but now people are just obsessed with everything else but it, it just seems all like a status popularity contest, and i know its always been but holy jeez. like the reason why spaceghostpurrp and that era of people was golden for underground was becuase they were literally just unknown. like i miss when underground rappers, were just unknown, like not labeled underground, but just simply not known yet. like there so much talent brewing always it just depends as to where you look, and the reason why all this the underground is dead bs is being talked about always is because ljke all ts osamason and etc isnt even like near underground that shit is popular atp, like everywherw u go that dudes name is in someones mouth. i dont know if im communicating myself correctly, but this whole new meaning to the "underground" is so whack, corny, and complete opposite of what it actually is and means .
I think the problem is well for 1 mainstream has gotten lazy and boring so ppl are looking towards these niggas paying more attention to the underground so it's making harder to stay underground
go outside n ask someone if they listen to osamason; or if they've even heard of him.
@@subashiranah fr most these ngas really not known they just spend too much time online
def need to find more channels like this it’s fye
@savetheworld1
@@grixonyt bet thanks bro
@@KhaliVFXhe quit though now but he #1 hater of the underground
im hopping on the wave i think hes good, we not like you has been on loop for me
nett tuff especially for a 16 year old on bandlab
he sound like me when I first found bandlab 💀💀
@@lungshatehe better than you lil bro
I’m gonna start a new wave called mongolian folkwave basically bro just mongolian folk instrumental tunes with a yoda cadence type shit
11 months later now he's kurt kobains younger brother
hyperpop saw it’s prime in 2020-early 2021, and during the summer of 21 it was the start of babysantana and kashdami type beats
this channel is severely underrated
the concept vague name drop flooded me with memories LOL
we're oldheads in this scene now bro 😭😭😭
Bruh I give Xaviersobased a pass because he's clearly aware of the BasedGod and though his music might not be my thing, he's doing his thing! Now onto Nettspend - Why not hate on Lil Shine? He's not a POC and the homie let the n-word slip on a live and here we are hating on this kid because hes white? People got their priorities fucked up man. Just sayin.
ppl were hating on shine back then
They still hating on Shine
true
Mannn i cant believe that shine clip didnt ruin his career
@evilassjitnem actually you guys do have a point. I forgot about how MUCH mfs hated Shine lmao - my thing is. it's FOOKN DIGICORE/PLUGGNB it's not like they're GATEKEEPING goddamn.. BOOM BAP NAS' ILLMATIC or something. Pluggnb is literally just a MapleStory 🍁 synthesizer over 808 bass. Lmao people be takin life too seriously
To be frank if RXK nephew didn't exist, Pluggnb would be one of the whitest genres out there on paper haha
i get what you mean about the underground opinion its gotten to the put where there are so many people that are always searching for new music and I feel like social medias and tik tok has made it so easy for these guys to blow up and go mainstream and then after that were just look for the next underground rapper to come up its a cycle
love nettspend people hate and now he gon be da biggest all publicity is good
He bought his way into the underground bro
Sometimes it’s what u gotta do
How
@@SethTraplifeGLO999 he had dj phat placements after 2 songs, he was getting posted by 130world after 1 snippet and he got into the NYC scene after 2 months of posting.
@@2ashamed2change I guess so but it feels weird seeing the underground be successfully commodified
It doesn’t matter his music is good
I fw Xavier n nettspend I feel like they just kids and they gonna do a lot of evolving sound wise since nettspend only got like 5 songs rn
I fw how long you’ve been in this scene… just about as long as me. bones and ghostmane is where I started here.
@@zlonex6 Im 15 & I know about Bones what r u talking about 😂😂
@@zlonex6nah bruh I'm 21 shwb was dem boys tho no cap
@@zlonex6I’m 20 and I’ve been listening to bones for 6 years+
@@zlonex6 damn they got active on u quick 🤣🤣 I’m 22btw turn 23 nov 1st
Surrenderdorthy
Yhh ur right about beats and flows being quickly saturated as soon as they can be replicated…”type beat culture”. With the music coming out of the underground: Papasquat called it ADHD music or something like that- think both when he reacted to Xaviersobased - patchmade and Hi-C - No emotionzz… I think now the underground is just stuck in a spiral of making abrasive but clunkier beats until it’s unintelligible. We are going to be hearing a lot more jerk type best for a year or two…
TLDR; I like Xav and what he’s “done” but Yh the “underground” is in a cycle of ppl waiting for the new thing then copying basically.
There’s a mixtape by James Ferraro: “Bebetunes- Inhale C4” it predicts how fucked up cloud rap beats would be in the future but predates this. It was an “ironic” take on 2010s hip hop production but even served as an inspiration for Bladees sound. You should give it a listen.
Great video too🤞🏾
@@dontcrampmystyle3need a tldr for second block
it’s called inspiration. You can’t belittle someone for not ushering in something completely unheard of and deciding to expand upon an already existing sound wave deeming them as a copycat; you can form new sounds from sounds. People have been “waiting for the newest thing to copy” for a hot minute that’s not new behavior that’s just what comes with this it’s not some “new age underground music spiral”. There is however a lack of pioneers ushering in completely new stuff compared to older eras
@@ogarrt didn't mean for my comment to come off as a fully negative critique- was adding onto the video. By "stuck in this spiral" I was referring to new styles of production effortlessly becoming more maximalist and crazy as it has been for a while- its no surprise that Xavs influences are Lex Luger (Save Me- Chief Keef) and Bladee.
“Desperate for something new” but this is literally new he’s not doing opium shit and not doing pluggnb shit
fr he asking for a new era but this is the new underground era
This is nothing new…he’s just punching in on a hype beat
what’s the instrumental in the background? sounds hard
the random rich amiri stray was so funny
Dat boy look nerdy asf in the booth
crazy how he better still then most
hard ass background beat
Another upload, always enjoy seeing your uploads pop up
Country Music Can’t Be Appropriated By Black People. We Created Country.
Only great underground rappers doing their own thing right now off the top of my head imo are Jace, Devstacks (produces most of his music and kinda reminds me of prime Pierre) , RXK Nephew (Dosent take music super serious makes funny songs but refreshing bangers also) , and even tho he takes a lot of influence from SoFaygo….Onlybino. Slimesito directs a lot of his music videos and goes hard asf almost all the time and Slime Dollaz is like a new wave plugg artist.
Gangsta PluggnB bro! I been recommending Neph to everyone that's lookin for somethin fresh
@@basedsouljah yes sir he has a bunch of different styles too always something to listen to no matter what mood you’re in
Should've included Cheromani on the list
@@Puppy_kicker74 I never heard of him tbh
@dj0rtega you should check him out, his pretty unique tho he doesn't drop as much any of the rappers you listed
Bro named himself after a bank
😂😂😂😂 what's next rapper "chase the bank" 😂😂😂😂
@@lovely1762that’s tuff i might use it 💯💯
Ambient rap da new wave
bless me w the first beat 😭
Novagang is blowing up right now like crazy
idc what ssgkobe drops im not bumping that weirdo lmao
Osamason might be the most overrated rapper I ever seen get popular in the underground
Real
If u act gangster they will meatride
U have trash taste then. Look at the trenches music vid he taking that ken/opium sound into more of an underground sound route instead of sticking to mainstream conformity like they do. The game is getting good again like 2015-2019 the game is in a revival stage
the best era was 2015-19
beginning of uzi carti , fauni uno & lucki was in they prime , plugg & emo rap was thriving too
Underground fans try not to say 2015 challenge
@@1ktoken 2010-2014>>>
@@oxydayz 2010 I can agree 2010 was reall a soft year lowkey every thing was chill asf
@@1ktoken u just mad u was too young experience it
Ngl i miss th old 2015 underground, $b, shwb, nightlovell and etc. Uzi n carti was cool around that time but the people i listed was THEM. THIS NEW WAVE JUST MESHED AND JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE
Nettspend and summrs are almost 2 opposite sides of the underground you cant compare them one bit 🤷
the underground is crazy right now take off those rose tinted glasses and embrace how art is constantly changing
rose tinted glasses are a symbol for optimism so taking them off to embrace something doesnt rlly make sense
@@rayzersharppsmartest naruto pfp
dude seems like hes sometimes trying hard and that be can be cringe but i fw some of his songs like gen 5 and section. dude has a lot of time to grow
This is so funny cuz its just a cycle that keeps repeating itself in music. Something new comes out, everyone hates on it, then its cool af and a new trend, all of a sudden, 5 years later when all the wagon riders find it
I missed this upload, mans 3 days late but I’m hereeeeee🤟🏾
It actually would’ve been worse for nettspend if he dropped that snippet in 2018 cuz the underground wasn’t as accepted as it is now
Bro the lengths niggas be hating is crazy
you’ll realize soon mister universe
This is literally my fav person to watch on youtube, gonna be huge one day because he different
UV is one of us bro. He's a man of the people.
Man bandlab rappers need more recognition fr
We be going harder then these fl and pro tools niggas
fuck no
Absolutely omega based. I'm on bandlab constantly making beats and shit
who tf uses pro tools in the underground
@@zyde1179 a lot of people, just because your in the underground doesn't mean you have to use shitty stuff, if you buy the best shit your not magically gonna get popular as fuck, it's still gonna be hard to get discovered
how exactly is fl studio a" shitty" daw@@gnarlythagod
ngl the dark plugg wave lowkey taking over
😴😴😴😴😴😴
Yea Slimesito and all the other pioneers should be proud but Glokk40spaz is the best at it
Everyone is influenced by everyone. Saying he’s influenced by Chief Keef is rhetorical, so has everyone. In that case Summrs sounds like Uzi cuz he sings on semi-electronic rap beats. Bro made 0 points. Not even good at hating. Instead of making a great video about how influence makes more influence. How Summrs created Plugg n B and how Nettspennd, Yhapojj, Xavier and many others are continuing the Plugg n B sound, you made a mid ass video about how they aren’t the same.
Yeah these RUclips critics pretentious
Summers didn't make plugnb tho 😂
FTR x VHS will revive the underground, mark these words g
Stopped the video as you called Summrs a trendsetter. What trend 🤦🏾♂️
Of being retarded obviously 🙄😒 he rep that shit everytime he open his mouth
Eating food
you gotta be slow
oh my
@@Lahsig put me on, what trend did he start dweeb?
hating on a kid for being the wrong skin color racist af ngl
Wasn’t me
He’s been finding his sound fasho
Now he got 900k monthly listeners let the haters hate
Earned a sub fs w researchin n lookin at diff peoples perspectives on this kinda stuff 💯
i keep clicking on this video jus to loop the intro. no reason for it 2 b that hard
I don't get the hate on nettspend, he got some BANGERS and i dont get why people thinks he's trash
☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
btw can u send the background beat pls
underground is not in decline imo it’s the best it’s been in years
ngl kobe was not rapping like that back in the day he is lowkey starting to sound like sgpwes/osamason
Yea but it's one song
The bladee inspired dudes are gonna start the next wave aint gonna lie
These underground old heads gonna be steady hating they ain't ready for the new wave 😅
"xaviersogay" lol, rap should be for every one i agree, like why tf would you hate on some kids having fun making music unless it's really really bad, saddos
Prelude is literally one of my favourite summrs tracks
Goats always get the most h8
Bruh shut up
@@UVXCXhe is the goat he tops ur top 10
wow! that song at the end was phenomenal! what is it?
Another UV upload is like a nice blunt after a long day of work... grab that popcorn lmao
I don’t see why people hate like even if it’s not a super original sound he jus havin fun makin music
Bro says summrs bleh bleh situation is different 😂 just imagine what 2011 - 2017 SC era old heads reacted when summrs snip came out 😂 it was TRASHEDDD .
Brooo they called the nigga gxy and everything cause of that polaroid shirt and how his movements was in the snip 😭 but he deadass a low-key prodigy that's a big key difference
it’s so funny how the people hating are only giving him more clout and have done nothing with their lives
Not sure where the hatred comes from, they just seem generic af. Moving on...
i love nett music the beats are crazy
yeah u hatin this shit is gas
PPL DONT PEEP THE DEEPER PARTS OF THE UNDERGROUND LIKE THE AMBIENT SIDE & OTHERS!
me personally i like nettspend but i get the criticism that he’s not doing anything new apart from his voice and a few of his flows.. people allowed to have their own opinion on music and not bash each other for it but there’s a line that should be drawn sometimes unless u like lil xan or sum
The snap at the end though 💀
I feel you with needing new shit, you should peep bluntwitch/Pistol Star not good quality wise but definitely sum that’s been on my radar
(Ok) prod for Glokk40 lonley southside S rollin thrax etc bro hard
😴😴😴😴😴
Rich amri sound like he got marshmallows stuck in his throat
the reason the underground has stagnated is because everyone uses the same recycled fucking drum kits and everyone got bored so they have to be making some different shit with the same sounds and we’re literally running out of combinations of sounds u can do with this shit
How about look for new artists to listen to
that rich amiri take was probably the best take i heard this year
i preliked dis before he say anything if it's sayin sum positive im unliking and reporting u
bro what’s the beat in the back bro, that shit gas
damn that was me in kobes comments 😭😭
Nettspend has potential
rn we have the actual underground like untiljapan, sss, garments and then you have the tiktok underground
im a long time duwap fan and like this music but never listened to summrs yet now i feel like i should
only knew who this kid was because of dj phatt da goat but apparently he from my city lol
i keep seeing ppl saying he scammed them 🤦♀🤦♀
His name netspend for a reason lmao
"TITLE...now ima hate on him"
we need glokk40 out
Bro just shows up erywhere now
nettspend fyeee
underground oldheads need to embrace the new eras like duwap kaine is doing
everything evolves.....
real
Bro the goat
drankdrankdrank is a classic