I’ve been wondering why so many people use suction cups and not these! Edit: wish you would have shown what the interior shot looked like. Not that it matters, just would satisfying to see the result.
I considered it, I even had an experimental film to show along with this but I felt it was too long as it is. The next car rig video I do, I’ll definitely show the example footage
Very Nice! While driving, for recording an ambient sound outside the car with strong wind sound blocked, do you have an idea which external mic should be used and how to set it??
Are you capturing engine or exhaust? For engine, try putting a lav mic on the side mirrors. Could also tuck it under the wiper cowl depending on the type of car. For the rear, putting it where the license plate is may help
@@joenicklo Thanks for the reply! If anything, I want to capture engine, but ideally, I want to get sounds of surroundings such as road sounds, passing car sounds, sounds of pedestrian so on(without wind sound). I will try to use a lav mic on the side mirrors! Really thanks!
Thanks for the video. I was looking how to get rid of those micro vibrations. Although I have a question... is there any problem with the magnets if its raining?
I've ran this setup in rain a few times. You need to make 100% sure that the windshield is dry when you setup the rig. If there is ANY moisture between the magnet and the glass, the magnets will fail.
Love how you rigged this and I see now how stable things can be with arms attached all around the camera. Also want to acknowledge how nice the shots, composition, lighting, grading, and audio are throughout this video. It looks like you had somewhat harsh sun but somehow ended up with great shots anyway. Do you remember how you were mic'd for this?
Thank you, I really appreciate the feedback. You're right, it was incredibly sunny that day so I used an ND. I was mic'd with a Saramonic UWMic9 wireless lav.
@@joenicklo I just got my kit in the mail from Adorama and it's different from yours. It has 1/4 20s on all 4 of the magnet plates. I did some research and the rigwheels website sells the kit you have, but B and H and Adorama sell a version that your windshield wipers won't like. lol. It's all good. no reason to return. I just got the additional parts from rigwheels since I'm was going to get a second kit anyhow. Thanks again!
We've used this mounting system before as well. Super stable but we must have the older versions because there are no differences in the inside and outside magnets so your windshield wiper blades are a no-go while it's installed. We always make sure to spray the shield with RainX or some similar product just incase liquid get's on it you won't need your wiper blades. Just something to keep in mind if people aren't buying the brand new version.
Hi, love this. Thank You! Can you give me any insight to the legality of filming without permits with these. Seems like its low impact and the fact that they can be moved to a place on the windshield that doesn't obscure the drivers sightline. Any reports on the CHP asking to halt shooting?
I don't see how it would be illegal if it's not obscuring the driver's view. People use GoPros all the time inside the car and permits are not required. I believe once you start getting into heavier rigs on the EXTERIOR of the car is when you need to worry about permits.
Awesome video I've recently just started doing the tripod in the back seat camera angle for a video, I like it. It looks different to the POV angles or the camera directly pointed at you. Great tips keep them coming, Would you be able to do a video of how to film cinematics with the dji osmo mobile 3
Very informative video Joe ! awesome and rock solid solution for interior shots, btw are there any sort of vibrations from the car ? I know its very secure but wondering if there are any vibrations on the shot.
No vibration from the car itself should transmit to the shot unless it's rigged improperly. If you go over a bump, hit a pothole etc., that will definitely be seen in the shot.
I’m pretty sure that disabling the setting in camera doesn’t lock the sensor itself down completely. For example, sensor cleaning swab and tap the side of the sensor of a GH5. It will move because it’s on a “gyro” or whatever it’s called. Do the same on the GH5S and it won’t move. In all of the tests I’ve done with both GH5 and GH5S with the same lens, IBIS enabled or disabled, the GH5 always transmitted some form of micro-vibration into the shot.
@@joenicklo Interesting and good to know. I haven't really used cams with IBIS, so that's good insight. (Not that I have a reason to use IBIS, but still)
Really thank you for the great information! So far I really struggled to rig a camera in a car(and I could not set it perfectly every time...). I will try your setting! And I take a video forward from my car dashboard, but there are always reflections because of windshield glass, especially at night. Do you have any tips to avoid that reflection? I could resolve the problem if I used a mount and set the camera outside the car, but I want to do it from the inside. I will really appreciate it if you reply or make a video for that! And I am looking forward to your videos from Japan!
I’m loving your channel and tips. I use the day gherkin triple mount with my fx3 and lightweight lens but this does look like a future upgrade. Can I ask how you expose for longer driving takes for to camera driver shots like this angle. I don’t find I get consistent results due to changes in brightness during the drive. I had wondered if using a spot meter on the subject and exposure compensation may help. Many thanks
I think it all depends on the shot itself. Let's say I'm in the passenger seat filming the host of a show who's driving. Chances are, I'll have the Z Cam's app up and I'll change exposure from the app. Exposure compensation with spot metering should help if you're using a DSLR.
very nice video. What do you suggest if I want to use a ronin mx3 gimbal on the car. What system do you prefer. Also I will be using Z cam e2 with the gimbal
@@petera.di.salvatore4493 Two things about the Hydra Alien. First, you're limited to just single arm gimbles like the Ronin RS2, second...I've heard some very bad things about the quality control on the units that have been sent out so far.
This system relies on the windows but you can use magnets for exterior rigging. I've got a video coming soon on exterior rigging so stay tuned and be sure to subscribe! :)
Depending on where you rig it and the actual angle of the windshield AND if you use a shorter lens, absolutely. I tried rigging this setup on a McLaren 720S and it was a nightmare.
I'm considering this product, but I have only one concern. When "de-rigging" how much of a hassle do these thing cause? Do you have any tips when getting these things off the car? Can I use a string to pass through between the magnets to lift the magnets up for easier "de-rigging?" I'd imagine 100lb of magnet pulling force is pretty hard to get it off the windshield. Thanks in advance.
I use two suction cups and one magnet (diy) I do not understand how you can not know that the ibis can be turned off in all cameras and you give advice on what equipment to use.
Yes, ibis can be turned off in camera but the sensor is still floating. It will still vibrate. There’s a reason why production companies like the one that produced The Grand Tour used LUMIX GH4’s and not GH5’s even though they were available. Do your own tests, look at the footage you come up with and then make a statement. I’ve done plenty of testing…
Это всё равно ненадёжное крепление, т.к. на большой скорости и высокой кочке тряска на камере будет такой сильной, что спокойно разорвёт связь с магнитом. И полетит ваш ред на пол. Лучше уж крепить всё на присоски.
With a name like Driven Films.. I wouldn't want to get car filming tips from anyone else.
Or you guys can just call me and I'll drive up to film for you ;) But for real, glad you enjoyed the video.
I’ve been wondering why so many people use suction cups and not these! Edit: wish you would have shown what the interior shot looked like. Not that it matters, just would satisfying to see the result.
I considered it, I even had an experimental film to show along with this but I felt it was too long as it is. The next car rig video I do, I’ll definitely show the example footage
@@joenicklo always thought to make that balance 👍
i was hoping to see some footage too
Best demonstration I’ve found so far.
Glad it helped you out
Very Nice!
While driving, for recording an ambient sound outside the car with strong wind sound blocked, do you have an idea which external mic should be used and how to set it??
Are you capturing engine or exhaust? For engine, try putting a lav mic on the side mirrors. Could also tuck it under the wiper cowl depending on the type of car. For the rear, putting it where the license plate is may help
@@joenicklo
Thanks for the reply!
If anything, I want to capture engine, but ideally, I want to get sounds of surroundings such as road sounds, passing car sounds, sounds of pedestrian so on(without wind sound).
I will try to use a lav mic on the side mirrors! Really thanks!
Thanks for the video. I was looking how to get rid of those micro vibrations. Although I have a question... is there any problem with the magnets if its raining?
I've ran this setup in rain a few times. You need to make 100% sure that the windshield is dry when you setup the rig. If there is ANY moisture between the magnet and the glass, the magnets will fail.
Love how you rigged this and I see now how stable things can be with arms attached all around the camera. Also want to acknowledge how nice the shots, composition, lighting, grading, and audio are throughout this video. It looks like you had somewhat harsh sun but somehow ended up with great shots anyway. Do you remember how you were mic'd for this?
Thank you, I really appreciate the feedback. You're right, it was incredibly sunny that day so I used an ND. I was mic'd with a Saramonic UWMic9 wireless lav.
@@joenicklo 👍 Awesome thanks!
Well done Joe. I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. Thanks for providing valuable content!
My pleasure!
Thanks for making this.
Glad you liked it!
OH shit! MAGNETS!!!! I'm definitely getting this. Thank you for putting us onto this!
No problem! Hope it works out for you.
@@joenicklo I just got my kit in the mail from Adorama and it's different from yours. It has 1/4 20s on all 4 of the magnet plates. I did some research and the rigwheels website sells the kit you have, but B and H and Adorama sell a version that your windshield wipers won't like. lol. It's all good. no reason to return. I just got the additional parts from rigwheels since I'm was going to get a second kit anyhow. Thanks again!
Very cool. I always wondered what cameras movies use inside a car.
There you go :) Sometimes its much more complicated, more cables, a transmitter etc.,
Lots of good information! Awesome video!
Appreciate you checking it out. Lemme know if you end up trying this out
That not a bad price for that mount. I'll definitely have to get it!
Very good price indeed
We've used this mounting system before as well. Super stable but we must have the older versions because there are no differences in the inside and outside magnets so your windshield wiper blades are a no-go while it's installed. We always make sure to spray the shield with RainX or some similar product just incase liquid get's on it you won't need your wiper blades. Just something to keep in mind if people aren't buying the brand new version.
Nice! I know the new version isn't released yet (I assumed it was) but found that out today.
I brought the older version, I didn’t know they had two different types.
You are very underrated bro 😎
Appreciate that
Good video Joe 👍👌🔥...I have, use and love the Mag-tights as well. Thanks for showing
No problem BeeS! Thanks for watching.
Any thoughts on using this on a Tesla glass roof? I want to have video running including the screen and outside of the front window
You'll be fine.
Hi, love this. Thank You! Can you give me any insight to the legality of filming without permits with these. Seems like its low impact and the fact that they can be moved to a place on the windshield that doesn't obscure the drivers sightline. Any reports on the CHP asking to halt shooting?
I don't see how it would be illegal if it's not obscuring the driver's view. People use GoPros all the time inside the car and permits are not required. I believe once you start getting into heavier rigs on the EXTERIOR of the car is when you need to worry about permits.
Love the magnet option
16:48 (anything in the video) yes I would like to buy the car but there is no link in the description
haha! I'd love to buy that car back! Wish I didnt sell it.
how do you tend to set exposure for contrasty sunny days if you have to set it and forget it
Can you recommend something to fix to a roll cage for behind the driver view?
What camera are you mounting?
Awesome video I've recently just started doing the tripod in the back seat camera angle for a video, I like it. It looks different to the POV angles or the camera directly pointed at you. Great tips keep them coming, Would you be able to do a video of how to film cinematics with the dji osmo mobile 3
Hi thanks for watching. I don’t own an osmo
Any footage to show the smoothness?
Not in this video but I can dig some up if you really want to see it. Shoot me a DM
Very informative video Joe ! awesome and rock solid solution for interior shots, btw are there any sort of vibrations from the car ? I know its very secure but wondering if there are any vibrations on the shot.
No vibration from the car itself should transmit to the shot unless it's rigged improperly. If you go over a bump, hit a pothole etc., that will definitely be seen in the shot.
You mention not using a camera with IBIS, but don't most of those cams allow you to disable that function, opening them up to be used as well?
I’m pretty sure that disabling the setting in camera doesn’t lock the sensor itself down completely. For example, sensor cleaning swab and tap the side of the sensor of a GH5. It will move because it’s on a “gyro” or whatever it’s called.
Do the same on the GH5S and it won’t move.
In all of the tests I’ve done with both GH5 and GH5S with the same lens, IBIS enabled or disabled, the GH5 always transmitted some form of micro-vibration into the shot.
@@joenicklo Interesting and good to know. I haven't really used cams with IBIS, so that's good insight. (Not that I have a reason to use IBIS, but still)
Magnets can destroy the internal components in cameras and mics - how do you transport these very strong magnets so they don't impact the other gear?
The magnets don’t touch the equipment. They’re far enough away from the components that they don’t cause an issue.
Any sample footage from that mount, any vibrations or no? Thanx.
Im doing a follow up video on this real soon. I'll be sure to include footage.
Really thank you for the great information!
So far I really struggled to rig a camera in a car(and I could not set it perfectly every time...).
I will try your setting!
And I take a video forward from my car dashboard, but there are always reflections because of windshield glass, especially at night. Do you have any tips to avoid that reflection?
I could resolve the problem if I used a mount and set the camera outside the car, but I want to do it from the inside.
I will really appreciate it if you reply or make a video for that!
And I am looking forward to your videos from Japan!
Mount inside and use a CPL filter.
@@joenicklo
Thanks for your advice!
Is it possible to get your shooting consulting as a business via your email address?
I’m loving your channel and tips. I use the day gherkin triple mount with my fx3 and lightweight lens but this does look like a future upgrade.
Can I ask how you expose for longer driving takes for to camera driver shots like this angle. I don’t find I get consistent results due to changes in brightness during the drive. I had wondered if using a spot meter on the subject and exposure compensation may help. Many thanks
I think it all depends on the shot itself. Let's say I'm in the passenger seat filming the host of a show who's driving. Chances are, I'll have the Z Cam's app up and I'll change exposure from the app. Exposure compensation with spot metering should help if you're using a DSLR.
very nice video. What do you suggest if I want to use a ronin mx3 gimbal on the car. What system do you prefer. Also I will be using Z cam e2 with the gimbal
Give the Rigwheels Cloudmount a look
@@joenicklo thank you. What do you think about Tilta Hydra Alien
@@petera.di.salvatore4493 Two things about the Hydra Alien. First, you're limited to just single arm gimbles like the Ronin RS2, second...I've heard some very bad things about the quality control on the units that have been sent out so far.
@@joenicklo in the mean time I found Proaim, any feedback about it
@@petera.di.salvatore4493 which one?
Would you use this same system for an exterior shot? Or rely on a completely different magnet system
This system relies on the windows but you can use magnets for exterior rigging. I've got a video coming soon on exterior rigging so stay tuned and be sure to subscribe! :)
@@joenicklo please do the exterior rigging far more problems to conquer there.... wind .. camera safety..ect
Gotta have the quick strokes 🤪
Instant regret. Left it in because I KNEW someone would bring it up ;)
is there any mount that will act as a gimbal so the footage isnt shaky when driving?
It won’t shake when you mount like this that’s the entire point of hard mounting to the car
Hello, would there be enough room to turn the camera to face out the windshield?
Depending on where you rig it and the actual angle of the windshield AND if you use a shorter lens, absolutely. I tried rigging this setup on a McLaren 720S and it was a nightmare.
Where is the sample footage?
My dog ate it.
@@joenicklo If you have it, it helps. I want to setup something similar in my vehicle. Thanks for the informative video.
this wont work for long lens like 85mm or 100mm itll be too close. I need a setup on the hood
I think this is what you're looking for in that case. Check out this kit from iFootage: geni.us/gmysGi
I'm considering this product, but I have only one concern. When "de-rigging" how much of a hassle do these thing cause? Do you have any tips when getting these things off the car? Can I use a string to pass through between the magnets to lift the magnets up for easier "de-rigging?" I'd imagine 100lb of magnet pulling force is pretty hard to get it off the windshield.
Thanks in advance.
Sorry for the delayed response. Removing them is a lot easier than you'd think. You just have to pull at angle and they'll release the hold.
My dslr doesn't have flip screen and I have to connect a seperate screen for that so, where to place or attach the screen...
Use suction cup mount.
I will always be nervous to put anything with electronic components or mechanical parts in proximity of powerful magnets.
I wanted to see footage
Sorry.
i want this
I want to film anything but inside and for some reason the algorith doesn't get it. UGH!!
Exterior car footage? You can use the same general method, just on the outside.
I use two suction cups and one magnet (diy) I do not understand how you can not know that the ibis can be turned off in all cameras and you give advice on what equipment to use.
Yes, ibis can be turned off in camera but the sensor is still floating. It will still vibrate. There’s a reason why production companies like the one that produced The Grand Tour used LUMIX GH4’s and not GH5’s even though they were available.
Do your own tests, look at the footage you come up with and then make a statement. I’ve done plenty of testing…
Wiper blades will need replacement if they pass over that magnet.
That’s why the magnets are curved. This isn’t something you’re going to use daily.
こういう3点支持マウント吸盤なら設置自由度は高そうだけど、作る方法が全くわからない^^;
デルキンだと支点（ジョイント）の自由度が少なくて難しい。
Rigwheels sells the full kit. It definitely has a wide range of motion
Это всё равно ненадёжное крепление, т.к. на большой скорости и высокой кочке тряска на камере будет такой сильной, что спокойно разорвёт связь с магнитом. И полетит ваш ред на пол. Лучше уж крепить всё на присоски.
Not true.
@@joenicklo до первого разбитого реда )