What would WW3 have been like if Germany had won WW2?

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  • How would have been the WW3 if Axis had not been defeated during the Second World War? Let's suppose that there is no USA intervention in Europe after Pearl Harbour, the Germans stop the Soviets, and UK are not able to land in Europe. Then, in 1960...
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  • @kingtachalla6181
    @kingtachalla6181 2 года назад +1574

    "America is less powerful in This timeline" probably because Germany kept their scientists lmao

    • @musiccer7446
      @musiccer7446 Год назад +104

      Exactly that’s why. The video even said that

    • @infidel202
      @infidel202 Год назад +16

      🙄 another han troll

    • @ch1ckendr1p
      @ch1ckendr1p Год назад

      @@infidel202what the fuck is a Han troll

    • @studios7973
      @studios7973 Год назад +6

      Haha good one

    • @maxbradley4097
      @maxbradley4097 Год назад

      you guys act like the only reason america was powerful in the cold war is because they took some fucking scientists even though they have nay NOTHING to do with the modern world except for the space race ARGUABLY

  • @retroronin1363
    @retroronin1363 2 года назад +858

    I like how the M14 is the standard issued rifle of the US in this timeline. The reason why the M14 was never adopted as a standard issue rifle in our timeline was due to the harsh jungle environments of Vietnam. But since the United States isn't in Vietnam in this timeline it makes complete sense for them to adopt the M14 as their standard issue rifle.

    • @kennethhoppe2259
      @kennethhoppe2259 2 года назад +36

      M14 is a Bad Ass Battle Rifle.
      No one wants to hump heavy 308 ammo through the Mud the weight sinks you down.
      That's a good enough reason for me to go to M16.
      But in the Video I guess Germany was using 308 in their H&K 91-G3's

    • @mrloaf6229
      @mrloaf6229 2 года назад +19

      It was actually because the Vietcong were being supplied with more capable AK-47s

    • @justacat886
      @justacat886 2 года назад +18

      Boys choose the AR 15 platform
      Men choose the Kalashnikov platform

    • @panderson9561
      @panderson9561 2 года назад +14

      The M-14 was the standard issue rifle for the US...IRL. The VC/NVA were using the AK and SKS. All the US had to give the ARVN was either M-1 Garands or M-1 Carbines. Neither of which were a match for the AK. Only alternative the US had was to give the ARVN M-14s. There were two problems with that: One is that the US didn't have that many extra to go around...still trying to arm their own forces with them. Two is the ARVN soldiers couldn't carry those big ass rifles around. Enter the M-16.

    • @justacat886
      @justacat886 2 года назад +6

      @@panderson9561 M16 doesn't compare to the ak. It's lightweight plastic construction lead to over heating real fast or jamming. Compare that to hunks of plywood and steel spitting 7.62mm downrange at you with no jams no overheating. It's clear the M16 is no match or never was a match to the ak rifles

  • @JohnSmith-nj9qo
    @JohnSmith-nj9qo Год назад +153

    It's crazy how realistic this is. Virtually all what if Germany had won WW2 scenarios are more or less along the lines of "something, something, Germany takes over the entire world." It would never happen, because Germany didn't have the resources to conquer the entire USSR let alone the entire world, so the best they could hope for was to go on the defensive and make the Allied invasion so costly they would agree to a peace deal rather than unconditional surrender.

    • @opul6518
      @opul6518 9 месяцев назад +3

      المان با گرفتن بخش های سرشار از منابع شوروی میتوانست براحتی شوروی را بگیرد دید شما خیلی محدود است

    • @justaguywhocomments56
      @justaguywhocomments56 8 месяцев назад +1

      ikr it's more realistic

    • @justaguywhocomments56
      @justaguywhocomments56 8 месяцев назад +2

      only way germany could win with the soviets was to draw the war into stalemate and get a negotiated peace they tried to do that in 1943 after the battle of kursk ended in defeat

    • @randomuser9883
      @randomuser9883 8 месяцев назад

      @@opul6518Soviets had man power and the mountains and harsh terrain

    • @brickzebra8369
      @brickzebra8369 7 месяцев назад +2

      Watch the guy other videos, he details each of the events he talks about in the intro

  • @caseycooper5615
    @caseycooper5615 Год назад +213

    Very well done. I think this is a more realistic take than "Hitler conquers the world." Interesting that Britain remains, but given the fact it took almost a year for the US to mobilize sufficiently, a good take. I still have to wonder if the Germans would have advanced further with ICBMs, given their best scientists remained, and given the high probability that their production facilities would not have moved underground. I would imagine a significant advancement without the limitations of our timeline.
    All in all, a very good, well-researched and well thought-out production.

    • @jaimes350
      @jaimes350 7 месяцев назад +3

      i would say the Nazis in this hypothetical timeline would also have had a moon base or two.
      Hitler didn't care what things cost as long as he got what he wanted.

    • @GGGG-jn7ib
      @GGGG-jn7ib 7 месяцев назад

      @@jaimes350they probably would of had satellite versions of nukes like the thunderbolts of god

  • @legalduidriving
    @legalduidriving 2 года назад +1567

    This scenario is a lot more terrifying than the 1983 Warsaw Pact vs NATO nuclear bombings. Great job, Zwallid. You make documentary-quality videos of alt history.

    • @rapidfire605
      @rapidfire605 2 года назад +28

      I mean it depends the 1983 one was very close to escalating to full nuclear war and that would have meant the end of north america and europe unlike this scenario

    • @legalduidriving
      @legalduidriving 2 года назад +11

      @@rapidfire605 it escalated to nuclear war in Zvallid's video, but nearly not as destructive as this one.

    • @rapidfire605
      @rapidfire605 2 года назад +18

      @@legalduidriving yeah but if the Akula had launched it’s nukes in the 1983 scenario it would have been way more destructive than this one probably leaving all of Europe and North America uninhabitable

    • @lastword8783
      @lastword8783 2 года назад +1

      @@legalduidriving It wasnt a full nuclear exchange

    • @fresatx
      @fresatx 2 года назад

      George Floyed would have gotten sober MUCH sooner under a German Regime!

  • @doncomedia6199
    @doncomedia6199 2 года назад +1682

    Hey man! You won't probably see this, but if you do I just wanted to let you know that this channel is a great source of entertainment for a lot of people and also a source of inspiration to people like me that like to write alternative histories and so on, I hope your doing well!!

    • @user-hn3jj5iq1y
      @user-hn3jj5iq1y 2 года назад +17

      Do you write for yourself or do you post it?

    • @friendly_thunder3648
      @friendly_thunder3648 2 года назад +6

      the bot i report it cheers man

    • @biharek7595
      @biharek7595 2 года назад +10

      Pretty sure he will see it, he reads the comments under his videos

    • @conqueror848
      @conqueror848 2 года назад +5

      Don comedia xd

    • @supermanmnb5754
      @supermanmnb5754 2 года назад +16

      True this channel inspired me to start working on a ww2 animation but I'm probably not going to finish it soon

  • @warrenreid6109
    @warrenreid6109 3 месяца назад +8

    You do alt-history so much better than your colleagues on the other channels. You are clear and concise. You've chosen great graphics. It's all just easy to follow.

  • @willadeefriesland5107
    @willadeefriesland5107 Год назад +129

    Just one point I'd like to make. Considering their relative technological advantages over the United States and the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany could have developed a space program capable of producing satellites that could take pictures of the Axis powers as a defense mechanism. While obviously, the resolution of the photographs would not be great, surely they would have been enough to notice changes taking place on the border with the Soviet Union.

    • @lonewaffle231
      @lonewaffle231 Год назад +12

      Don't be silly. I really dislike this popculture idea of German technology being superior. Truth is that Germany just rushed things into service, while other nations took their time developing. The west had the Gloster Meteor in 1944. The Soviets had their Jets too, sure Yak-15 was made using captured German Engines but it was a dead end. Mig-9 turned to be a better option. As for Rocket science, both sides uses German help but they didnt really need it, especially the soviets. They had scientists like Korolev, who had independently developed improved rocket designs while the the Germans were working on their ones. Russians had people like Konstantin Tsiolkovsky who worked on these things all the way back in the Tsarist Russia. The real limit to technology was material science, like metallurgy. To think that the USSR wouln't have any ICBMs or Submarines is just silly. Also to think that they woulndn't just bomb all the German troops in Vietnam. The realistic thing would be to have a three way space race. Germany wont the war, no need to continue the destruction. But you know, Germany is a Mary Sue in these scenarios.

    • @anthonyhorner4023
      @anthonyhorner4023 Год назад

      Why even bother with that when you could just use spy planes. US did deploy spy planes over the soviet union and various other countries in the 50s and 60s.

    • @tannerbanner1660
      @tannerbanner1660 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@lonewaffle231plus if Germany won the war their economy would still have suffered due to years of war and high casualties and damage to infrastructure

    • @Oblivion-yv5xf
      @Oblivion-yv5xf 7 месяцев назад

      @@lonewaffle231​​⁠​⁠ussr wouldnt have icbms that fast without the germans and its a fact if it wasnt for the germans we would be 50 years behind of technology me-262 is the best fighter jet of ww2 and we are ahead of tank technology today because of how germans invested in main battle tanks if germany kept its scientists sputnik wouldnt launch at all germans would be on the moon and German rocket artillery would be far superior than the soviet ones berlin is and always will be the center of science

    • @Oblivion-yv5xf
      @Oblivion-yv5xf 7 месяцев назад +1

      ⁠@@tannerbanner1660not really Albert speer would easily fix germany and they would recover the population very easily considering the fact that germans would settle in european russia

  • @oilybat3269
    @oilybat3269 2 года назад +551

    1.I like how you don’t just do the generic German victory. Germany doesn’t magically win for vague reasons. This actually seems like a reasonable timeline.
    2.this is exactly what’s wrong with RUclips. An actually talented RUclipsrs making great content being bullied because of garbage RUclips bots. Keep going, dude!

    • @harshjain3122
      @harshjain3122 Год назад +3

      What did the bots do?

    • @ugothmpzed7043
      @ugothmpzed7043 Год назад +3

      there are a few issues with his timeline

    • @oilybat3269
      @oilybat3269 Год назад +15

      @@ugothmpzed7043 there are a few issues with every alt history timeline. Germany was never going to win but this is as realistic a victory as possible

    • @ugothmpzed7043
      @ugothmpzed7043 Год назад +10

      @@oilybat3269 eh its somewhat not really. Germany and Italy would never stay allies after the war, germany somehow owns iceland, Germany doing better than america in vietnam when they would face the same issues is crazy

    • @oilybat3269
      @oilybat3269 Год назад +5

      @@ugothmpzed7043 it’s still an enjoyable video.

  • @TheBlackAndDeckerBootyWrecker
    @TheBlackAndDeckerBootyWrecker 2 года назад +384

    Knocked it out of the park with this one; I'm glad that you were not like the typical alt-history channel and end the video with a cliché USSR/USA team up and over throw of Germany. Instead, you leave potential for future videos into this amazing series. You are the TURE alternate history artist, zvallid!!

    • @Pandadude-eg9li
      @Pandadude-eg9li 2 года назад +5

      As long as there is still history to cover, there are still events to talk about.

    • @mrloaf6229
      @mrloaf6229 2 года назад +21

      Not perfect but probably the most accurate, unlike other channels where the scenarios are literally just: "Germany invades USSR and wins, Germany invades the US and wins"

    • @wingedhussar1453
      @wingedhussar1453 9 месяцев назад

      Meh he just reiterated stuff frol our timeline without putting though how so many things change

  • @sebaspinesgamerrockstar8932
    @sebaspinesgamerrockstar8932 13 дней назад +1

    You've shut me up with how incredibly realistic this video is, great job.

  • @JaMeYc420
    @JaMeYc420 6 месяцев назад +6

    In this timeline, the Nazis would probably have the first person on the moon by 1953, probably & Mars by 1970. We & the soviet union only made it & came "close" because of Nazi rocket scientists scooped up after WW2....

  • @ravenlord4
    @ravenlord4 2 года назад +498

    I'm a little surprised that the Germans didn't aggressively pursue a space race. Perhaps the trigger for WW3 was a little too soon for them to do so? An alternate scenario where the war is delayed by 10 years would be interesting. Would the Germans make it to the moon by 1969, like the Americans did in the real timeline?

    • @johnkschuemannruss3301
      @johnkschuemannruss3301 2 года назад +42

      Maybe they would make it to Mars and send unmanned explorations to Venus.

    • @hanrinch
      @hanrinch 2 года назад

      Space race was the reason that cause the collapse of soviet and declining of USA with 10 trillion dollars debts and both were near in bankruptcy in late 80s, which led to the first and second gulf war to ensure the petro-dollars system continue as United States relying on the system for nation’s survival.
      Hitler wouldn’t be stupid enough to jump in such race with little return. As long as they keep ICBM technology from USA and soviet the race will never happened.

    • @patrykkaminski554
      @patrykkaminski554 2 года назад +36

      Maybe Germans after putting first sattellite and sending first human to space didn't have resources or will to send mission to moon. Just like the soviets in our timeline.

    • @thebroman500
      @thebroman500 2 года назад +15

      he has another video where it was about what the cold war would've been like had germany won world war 2, it's mentioned that they were one of the first nations to send a person to space instead of the soviets.

    • @yukuzoona6604
      @yukuzoona6604 2 года назад +18

      duh the germans ARE on the moon, there is that nazi base on other side of moon -.-

  • @1337penguinman
    @1337penguinman 2 года назад +352

    I actually appreciate the more realistic take here on what a German victory in WW2 would have looked like. Not the "Germany conquered the world with Robot Zeppelins and Space Lasers" you often see depicted in alternate history timelines on the matter.

    • @jamesm0909
      @jamesm0909 2 года назад +42

      True, but those Wolfenstein games are badass!

    • @El__Mosquito
      @El__Mosquito 2 года назад +16

      I dont think germany cotrolling all of europe and soviet union would be managable for them neither

    • @raidermaxx2324
      @raidermaxx2324 2 года назад +6

      wait- Ronald Reagan made space lasers and currently there are jewish lasers right now in orbit according to an american congress woman

    • @stickman8459
      @stickman8459 2 года назад +11

      Not sure about how little Germanisation they did tho, it goes against hitlers entire philosophy

    • @larsrainer6763
      @larsrainer6763 Год назад +8

      ther world would probably be heaven on earth

  • @SomeoneFromBeijing
    @SomeoneFromBeijing 7 месяцев назад +4

    “Germany used 10 nukes in China, delegating their arsenal.”
    “The USA and the USSR accused Germany of using chemical weapons in Vietnam.”
    Bruh…

    • @aquagaming3480
      @aquagaming3480 Месяц назад

      And bro said Germany was 2 strong nation like wtf America can never compete with Germany nor in 1940s like bro claim usa is strong.

  • @Nines_Rodriguez
    @Nines_Rodriguez Год назад +9

    Most probably, we would have Martian bases by now.

  • @favre4ever39
    @favre4ever39 2 года назад +70

    Pretty good but my only gripe is "Germany's nuclear arsenal is depleted after Vietnam".
    Germany proceeds to nuke every major US city and create a fallout DMZ in the East.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +13

      canada uk and a lot of US cities are spared

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 2 года назад +8

      I see it as more of the view that creating more nukes would be difficult to produce but they'd probably have a number saved in reserve for use against its main rivals.

    • @jamesmadisonwilliams4210
      @jamesmadisonwilliams4210 2 года назад +4

      They had enough to defend there country from potential Soviet Invasion.

    • @retardedstudios4375
      @retardedstudios4375 2 года назад +2

      @@zvallid Well atleast they forgot about the KFC state.

    • @herrakaarme
      @herrakaarme 2 года назад

      Germany doesn't have as many nukes as the rivals because Hitler was never thrilled about nuclear weapons.
      Germany in Vietnam: Let's use as many nukes as we can possibly find targets for. Why not?
      There's some kind of jump in logic here in order to construct the general setting for the nuclear WW3. Logically Germany would have an arsenal closer to that of the USA because it simply couldn't afford not to have. Just like in our reality the USA and the USSR needed to accumulate ridiculous amounts of nuclear weapons simply because the other one couldn't be allowed to have much more for the sake of the balance of terror. If Hitler didn't like nukes, he wouldn't use them so easily, but he would still have them. However, the depth bombing of a German sub and the consequent response by the sub by using a nuclear torpedo to take out of the sub hunter fleet was a good detail in my opinion. It would have been pretty much the only thing the sub captain could do to return fire against such an overpowering enemy.

  • @bigolone3058
    @bigolone3058 2 года назад +230

    An extremely underappreciated channel. Please share it to everyone who enjoy geopolitics or history as a whole!

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +20

      thank you!

    • @ls-420stoner6
      @ls-420stoner6 2 года назад

      @@zvallid this is some of the best alt-history I've seen. I hope you're working on a follow-up to this one.

    • @NormAppleton
      @NormAppleton Год назад

      NAZIS that's yoooooo

    • @justpreaz4297
      @justpreaz4297 Год назад +1

      @@zvallid you should do a "What if Modern Day USA was teleported to WW2" video! Btw I love your channel and content!

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  Год назад +2

      @@justpreaz4297 Yes it could be a good idea

  • @elektronischemusik1903
    @elektronischemusik1903 Год назад +82

    It is always astonishing for me how smallest events, decisions and actions changed the history of the world. Sometimes one single person was enough to influence the fate of the humanity so drastically that you would not recognize the world of today if you could travel through time and dimensions to compare the different outcomes. For example, if someone had ratted out Gavrilo Princip, so that the assasination that plunged europe into the first world war never had happened in this form at that time, the world of today would look different beyond recognition. This event was the catalyzer that led to the rise or downfall of so many powers of this era and without it the rise of the NS,facist and the comunist regimes could not have happened in the form they happened. Simply because a chaotic world filled with millions of from the war brutalized veterans, blooming poverty and widspreaded despair was necessary to open the box of pandora and to push the domino stones over. I thought about that many times over the years and the thing that shocked me the most was that it is not clear for me that despite all the victims, the horrors and the suffering of hundreds of millions in these wars, that the world would be a better place today if that one assasination had gotten somehow prevented. Maybe the europen powers had some more years or even decades to put far more pressure on that powder keg that the world was at this time before it went off. But than with far more advanced mass-destruction weapon systems than they went into the first war with, but still not developed enough to prevent attacks with such weapons. The third reich had put some effort into the research of nuclear technologies and had somewhat of a progress under total war conditions and with ideological and self-harming barriers like expelling jewish or communist scientists before the war. But we will never know i guess.

    • @stefanhensel8611
      @stefanhensel8611 Год назад +6

      I used to think that Austria would have attacked Serbia anyway, Russia would have come to Serbia's rescue anyway, Germany would have given carte blanche to Austria anyway, France and the UK would have been dragged into the war anyway, maybe a couple of months later. Now, I'm not so sure anymore. What if Russia's assault on Kyiv had succeeded, Zelensky had been killed in the first days of the war, China had exploited the occasion to attack Taiwan while NATO was busy shifting their air force to Poland and the Baltics? We would live in an even more gruesome world, or possibly not be alive at all.

    • @vumba1331
      @vumba1331 7 месяцев назад +1

      Read the book 'Hidden History - The secret origins of the First World war' by Gerry Docherty and Jim Macgregor, and have your eyes opened as to what really went on then. Many of your questions and 'what ifs' will be answered.

    • @Wolfen443
      @Wolfen443 7 месяцев назад +1

      There is a Theory regarding timelines that says that fixed events cannot be changed, especially large events like a world War. Some figures and their influence cannot be denied, their actions can only be controlled to some degree. WWI and WWII are likely impossible to avoid events in my opinion.

    • @vumba1331
      @vumba1331 7 месяцев назад

      @@Wolfen443 Please read the book, there's a very good chance you'll change your mind.

  • @marblox9300
    @marblox9300 Год назад +10

    If German habits would have been taught to the rest of the world -
    it sure would have been cleaner than the dirty world we now have.

  • @thedirector5079
    @thedirector5079 2 года назад +145

    This was genuinely interesting. I like how the idea of a three way Cold War, and leaving the Soviets alive is something that not a lot of what if Germany won ww2 scenarios do.

    • @saqibshafin
      @saqibshafin 2 года назад +10

      I still don't like the fact that Soviets didn't have enough ICBMs and nuclear powered attack subs...

    • @retrotactics5555
      @retrotactics5555 2 года назад

      @@saqibshafin IRL they only had that stuff in the 60s because of the Nazi scientists that were working for them. Since Germany won here, they’re behind in rocket technology just like the USA is.

    • @johnchina2772
      @johnchina2772 Год назад

      @@saqibshafin e eu tenho certeza que eles teriam muito mais do que 400 bombardeiros

    • @legalduidriving
      @legalduidriving Год назад +12

      @@saqibshafin Soviets in this timeline lost Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltics, the most industrialized regions. Also they had a small civil war after Stalin's execution, so it's realistic enough.

    • @saqibshafin
      @saqibshafin Год назад

      @@legalduidriving I see...

  • @rocketman1969
    @rocketman1969 2 года назад +121

    Hi Zvallid! Great to see new content, hope your son is doing much much better 😀😀

  • @christopherthorkon3997
    @christopherthorkon3997 Год назад +30

    Very well done. A three-way Cold War makes total sense if, in fact, history unfolded in the alternative timeline.

  • @belowzero2407
    @belowzero2407 2 года назад +37

    As soon as i saw the notification,i smiled and said "i know what im watching today"
    Mad respect your videos are fantastic sir,i am really happy to see you again.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +4

      thank you and i hope you like it

  • @fmxmd9241
    @fmxmd9241 2 года назад +79

    Hi Zvalid. I found your channel about six months ago, great materials and film editing, best regards from Poland.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +6

      thank you!

  • @bpsitrep
    @bpsitrep 7 месяцев назад +3

    That's the most 'realistic' what if scenario I've read/seen. Well done. Frightening.

  • @Bugm-kn9sv
    @Bugm-kn9sv 2 года назад +12

    I been waiting for this for months and years

  • @daerudito
    @daerudito 2 года назад +26

    Actually, Hitler had a reason to declare war: to attempt to win the Battle of the Atlantic by being able to attack shipping along the US coast.

    • @ZEZlMA
      @ZEZlMA 2 года назад +1

      It's relatively known the soviets were amassing troops along the newly created border well after they invaded poland without france or uk declaring war on them despite their defence treaty.
      If you really thought the preemptive strike by germany & co was just a random retarded decision without any reason at all then I've some bad news for you..

  • @danzielinski5036
    @danzielinski5036 Год назад +2

    very frightening scenario. with the amount of dust and radiation everyone would eventually die. Hitler and Mussolini wouldn't live that long... everything on the surface of the earth would die from the radiation and lack of sunlight.

  • @Ballinalower
    @Ballinalower Год назад +6

    Extremely well thought out and imaginative alternative history. However Japan declared war on America and Britain at the same time on the 8th of December, so forcing them to be allies and not just friends. Hitler and Mussolini also declared war on the USA on the 8th of December. It's interesting to note that although the USA declared war on Japan on the 8th it was not until the 11th of December that the United States declared war on Germany and Italy despite Germany and Italy having declared war on the United States on the 8th. One can see the problem. German and Italian immigrants and their direct descendants made up a sizable proportion of the American population. Quite a few American soldiers who fought for the USA in WW2 spoke German or Italian as their first language.

  • @jbradley8659
    @jbradley8659 2 года назад +65

    This scenario was way scarier than the United States vs The Soviet Union.(full on nuclear war is terrifying to even think about)(even using nukes tactically is terrifying) BTW, love your work zvallid.

    • @volactic5240
      @volactic5240 Год назад

      Well if ww3 happened then world would still fine but humanity is screwed

  • @Magneto_Was_Right
    @Magneto_Was_Right 2 года назад +164

    Interesting. Two points. If the U.S. did not have to expend resources in Europe, then the war against Japan would have ended 'sooner', not later than in real history. Also, Poland would not have survived a German victory/truce, Poland would have been wiped from the map completely. In 1941 under Generalplan Ost Nazi Germany decided to destroy the Polish nation "completely", wipe Poland off the map, the German leadership decided that in 15-20 years the Polish state under German occupation was to be fully cleared of any ethnic Poles and settled by German colonists (see: Berghahn, Volker R. (1999). "Germans and Poles 1871-1945"). Otherwise, good video, looking forward to more.

    • @cpt.john_price
      @cpt.john_price 2 года назад +16

      In his other vid japan successfully invade china and annexed it, maybe that's why us capitulate the japan way later than our timeline

    • @abukafiralalmani
      @abukafiralalmani 2 года назад +15

      Poland would continue to exist as the Generalgovernment

    • @asperg1996
      @asperg1996 2 года назад +8

      @@cpt.john_price that Japan annexing China is not canon to this series though. That was “what if USA joined axis”

    • @varhYT
      @varhYT 2 года назад

      @@abukafiralalmani not really poland

    • @abukafiralalmani
      @abukafiralalmani 2 года назад +1

      @@varhYT It is Poland. They got Polish media and Polish officers

  • @danzielinski5036
    @danzielinski5036 Год назад +2

    NO one would survive this. . . At all.

  • @Kasey-bk4dj
    @Kasey-bk4dj 4 месяца назад +2

    Bro I thought that Japan signed a tripartite agreement with Germany and Italy stating if anyone declared war on them, they will join…

  • @omarcalderon3245
    @omarcalderon3245 2 года назад +7

    The return of the King!
    Thank you for uploading we understand life has been hectic for you.
    Best wishes!

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад

      hope you like it!

  • @sweetpotatonotfound594
    @sweetpotatonotfound594 2 года назад +63

    I hope this doesn’t get demonetized (it probably will) but whatever youtube do to you, i love your work

    • @AkumuNyaaaa
      @AkumuNyaaaa 2 года назад +6

      RUclips doesn't care but atleast Zvallid did do like alternative history and the entertaining purposes

    • @derwillhelm3778
      @derwillhelm3778 2 года назад +3

      He should move to Rumble

    • @AkumuNyaaaa
      @AkumuNyaaaa 2 года назад

      @@derwillhelm3778 He already had bitchute

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +4

      yes it's already demonetized

    • @derwillhelm3778
      @derwillhelm3778 2 года назад

      @@AkumuNyaaaa yeah but Rumble is better

  • @Pwelvr
    @Pwelvr 6 месяцев назад +2

    Only the dead no longer know war.

  • @leokimvideo
    @leokimvideo Год назад +4

    If Germany did win WW2 we would all be driving Merc's and have some really impressive engineering running everything. Germany would have landed on the Moon and not the USA.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  Год назад

      probably you are right

  • @prannavgopinath2579
    @prannavgopinath2579 2 года назад +65

    The ironic part is that the same situation happened with the a Soviet sub of the cost of Cuba during the height of the Cold War and the American navy dropped some bombs on the sub and the people in the sub thought that they were under attack and were gonna attack back but one person stopped them, if he didn’t do that it would have caused a ww3 just like in this scenario

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +33

      germans think different than soviets

    • @prannavgopinath2579
      @prannavgopinath2579 2 года назад +5

      @@zvallid true

    • @mirage_panzer2274
      @mirage_panzer2274 Год назад +9

      Ah yes that 1 guy which bear the lives of billions on his hand. Odd i forgot his name

    • @leestewart72
      @leestewart72 Год назад +3

      If the US dropped charges on them, then they were under attack, not just thinking so.

    • @mirage_panzer2274
      @mirage_panzer2274 Год назад +2

      @@leestewart72 its more than that. The one in charge had to make a critical decision on whether or not to launch the nuke from the sub aftee getting attacked, if he did launch the nuke then we might not exist most likely.

  • @ciggybutt2532
    @ciggybutt2532 2 года назад +47

    I liked the detail about how Germany's solution to China joining the war in Vietnam was to basically enact what MacArthur's plan was when China entered the Korean War in our timeline.

  • @richbanger320
    @richbanger320 Год назад +4

    Clearly the world would have been a better place. “ the world defeated the wrong enemy “

    • @blueciffer1653
      @blueciffer1653 Год назад

      Yea man. Authoritarian genocidal regime would have been so good.
      - guy who would be in a labor camp

    • @richbanger320
      @richbanger320 Год назад

      @Blueciffer1 umm what ?! Murrrp.
      With that ignorant comment I’m willing to bet you have no idea about the holocaust. Like the real holocaust it was called the Bolshevik revolution and 66 million people were killed you ignoramous

    • @blueciffer1653
      @blueciffer1653 Год назад

      @@richbanger320 "source?"
      "I made it up"

    • @richbanger320
      @richbanger320 Год назад

      @@blueciffer1653 you made what up ?!

  • @gerardanderson9665
    @gerardanderson9665 Год назад +2

    Why is this Entertaining af

  • @GKmasterr
    @GKmasterr 2 года назад +9

    The legend is back with the most epic video possible

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад

      I hope you like it

  • @pilotghost93
    @pilotghost93 2 года назад +52

    I think that this deserves way more than 74K views, I have never been so interested into an alternative history scenario. Great job as always, can't wait for the next video!

    • @lemonhead1442
      @lemonhead1442 Год назад +1

      Dude you said that soon as it was uploaded obviously it won’t have as many views first day dummy

    • @asiangaming8409
      @asiangaming8409 Год назад +1

      1 million man

    • @scottprendergast5262
      @scottprendergast5262 7 месяцев назад

      @lemonhead1442 did you call this great king whose ancestors built the pyramids a DUMMY???!
      HOW DARE YOU (lofl10×) he's facially beautiful just look at how he.sticks his fetid tongue out- how elegant is that?! His breath probably smells like a winos infected SPUNK..yet ALAS!
      he's still a king!
      his photo! amazing!
      Juat look at his complexion- the product of his B.F.'s 'balsack' teabagging facials- but wait again! His hair..washed with his "daddi's 'colon mud'
      Don't laugh!
      ( hahahahahahah)
      Happy new year bro
      Hope this gave you a smile

  • @johnpaulabocad6941
    @johnpaulabocad6941 7 месяцев назад +2

    I’m not sure America would have inflicted too much damage to Germany, considering that they still drop nukes as bombs. Especially with Germany having the best interceptors, it would have been a turkey shoot.

  • @zhivko-sr8gq
    @zhivko-sr8gq 3 месяца назад +5

    A 3 player ffa instead of a 2 player alright

  • @cgyoboi
    @cgyoboi 2 года назад +22

    "the German nukes are depleted after Vietnam"
    *Germany nuking the US and USSR two seconds later*

    • @keleisong3539
      @keleisong3539 2 года назад +6

      only around 2 dozens used in Viet out of 125 owned by German

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 2 года назад

      It's more like, we can't produce more quickly so keep some in reserve against our main enemies.

    • @edgy9751
      @edgy9751 Год назад

      kraut space magic nuff said

    • @kyleb7974
      @kyleb7974 3 месяца назад

      1 year ago but he says in the video that US allies like UK and Canada were spared because of the low numbers.

  • @vietc0ng891
    @vietc0ng891 2 года назад +5

    I’ve been waiting for this

  • @theloanranger3122
    @theloanranger3122 Год назад +2

    Imagine thinking Germany wanted to take over the world lmao. Even Adolf galland said that when talking to Hitler about giving the luftwaffe more power in the battle of London to take England, Hitler would scold him and get angry because he always wanted to be allies with the English.

  • @fabianwendygino6920
    @fabianwendygino6920 Год назад +2

    Don't forget about Ukraine joined Nazi Germany to fight against the Soviet Union in WW2

  • @JAMESBONG100
    @JAMESBONG100 Год назад +27

    It’s a shame that the good guys lost the war!

    • @legalduidriving
      @legalduidriving Год назад +4

      What are you talking about? Everyone lost here.

    • @yousef501st6
      @yousef501st6 Год назад +2

      I wouldn't say that it's More like Everyone Lost and I'm pretty sure it'll be even worse

    • @bent540
      @bent540 Год назад

      @@legalduidriving only white people lost. all people of color have exploded in numbers since ww2! thanks to leftism created by jew via TV monopoly

  • @xkurtz4662
    @xkurtz4662 Год назад +54

    As an avid NationStates and HOI4 player, I do really love your videos. Always a source of inspiration for a nation to make or scenario to game out in HOI when bored

  • @shadowkiller_9303
    @shadowkiller_9303 2 года назад +35

    Epic to see a new video. I hope this means everything is going alright with you and your family. Love your content.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +5

      happy you like the video

  • @germanempireball8741
    @germanempireball8741 Год назад +5

    So in this timeline it would be the iceland missile crisis?

  • @badwolf66
    @badwolf66 5 месяцев назад +1

    Suggestion: What would World War 4 be like if Vladimir Putin became USSR premier during the early 90's!

  • @authentic229.14
    @authentic229.14 2 года назад +44

    The episodes may have big time gaps between them, but they are great nonetheless. I really like this alternate history, so much quality and world building.

  • @HarshPandey-is2ei
    @HarshPandey-is2ei 2 года назад +19

    This also lays down a great example of nuclear asymmetries. Great work!!

  • @stevezee5568
    @stevezee5568 Год назад +11

    There’s a LOT of different scenarios that could have happened and this one you came up with is batsh*t crazy.
    Great work and subscribed 👍

  • @hahnebambel333
    @hahnebambel333 Год назад +2

    When he was 7 or 8 my son asked me what would have happened if Germany won world war 2. Then your father takes care of a postbox in Wladiwostok...

  • @sanjgij
    @sanjgij Год назад +1

    I think this greatly overestimates the importance of the US in defeating Germany. Hitler lost his war with the Soviet Union before D Day.

  • @Jermster_91
    @Jermster_91 Год назад +100

    The biggest problem with this scenario is that I think it would have eventually led to a war with Germany. It might have been months or years later, but considering American warships had attacked German U-Boats, despite saying they were neutral, and German U-boats had sunk the USS Ruben James in October of 1941, it is not a matter of if but when the US will go to war with Germany.
    Not to mention, even if Germany doesn't declare war on the US, the US is still gonna provide supplies and material to the UK and the Soviets.

    • @xxnoxx-xp5bl
      @xxnoxx-xp5bl Год назад +6

      Yeah, my understanding was that Germany had always anticipated war with the US at some point.

    • @jasonbarrie9933
      @jasonbarrie9933 Год назад +4

      The US supplied Germany as well

    • @tom170670
      @tom170670 Год назад +9

      @@jasonbarrie9933 Ford for example was the largest deliverer of light and medium trucks of the Wehrmacht. And not to forget, IBM and it's Hollorith machines, making a effectiv Holocaust administrable.....

    • @manuelschneider1105
      @manuelschneider1105 Год назад +5

      I would almost question if the US would still be providing the UK and the Soviets in this scenario. Providing others while you are at peace is one thing, but once you are attacked, are you still going to supply countries that aren't fighting YOUR enemy?
      I think Congress would have scrapped or heavily cut back the lend-lease to UK and USSR in favor of the war effort against the Japanese.

    • @dys9633
      @dys9633 Год назад

      Maybe russia is preparing war with usa for same reasons??? 😶😶😶

  • @legalduidriving
    @legalduidriving 2 года назад +21

    18:06 In real life, this was actually a Soviet plan in case of a NATO invasion to nuke the Vistula line to stop Western advancements.

    • @mareklimanowski
      @mareklimanowski 2 года назад +3

      Conversely, it was a Western plan, and it assumed the bombing of facilities on the Vistula so that the expensive Soviet army drop would be stopped and the first chewing would be destroyed in the fight against NATO troops and forced to retreat, they wanted to destroy the first throw, bleeding it on the Rhine, there was to be defended and bleeding first the throw and the second blocking wanted NATO to win the war, although of course such a scenario did not assume any victory march on the red square, but rather forcing the Soviets into peace.

  • @plpong893
    @plpong893 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just a little thing, but it’s mentioned that JFK is President in December 1960, while in real life, Presidents will be inaugurated on January 20, and it was the same in 1961. Besides that, this video is amazing.

  • @waffleeater223
    @waffleeater223 Год назад

    Yugoslavia in one peice: *exists*
    zvallid: I think not!

  • @Thebiggerfish11
    @Thebiggerfish11 2 года назад +10

    Your videos are like the German missiles in this timeline, the quality is amazing!

  • @FederationMapping
    @FederationMapping 2 года назад +17

    Great video! The quality of your videos has improved A LOT. Congratulations!

  • @dickritchie2596
    @dickritchie2596 Год назад +6

    We wouldn’t have woke-topia. It might not be so bad.

  • @valcanoman1829
    @valcanoman1829 6 месяцев назад +3

    That is a very great hypothetical alternate history scenario like documentary video with amazing storyline and narration by using historical accuracy and data by using the Cold War Era from our timeline into this timeline from the missile crisis and the Vietnam war being nazi germany being in the south while the other countries including the USA being the north. With the same weaponry, technology, vehicles, ships and aircraft being developed and use during the Cold War along with their own nuclear weapons being hiroshima level that both sides who are powerful and less powerful if you’re have three superpowers blocks. I am very, very much glad that we won the Second World War and I’m still surprised that if nazi germany would have survive in this timeline scenario if it hasn’t already collapsed on itself either in a civil war or an different change in its government with newer policies. What about the scientists from nazi germany who are jewish would have probably flee and escape from being killed by defecting with their knowledge, blueprints, scientific notes and documents from Nazi Germany to the USA and the Soviets by helping them into building ICBMs, Jet Propulsion, Ballistic Missile Submarines, Hydrogen Bombs, and other advanced weaponry and technology to compete against Nazi Germany in this timeline? And what about the space race of who made it to the moon? It makes no sense at all but pretty much a good scenario if more research is done right now in regards.

  • @zulvan3880
    @zulvan3880 2 года назад +5

    I'm so happy you come back❤️

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +4

      hope you like it!

  • @liathbricks7911
    @liathbricks7911 2 года назад +6

    HE’S BACK!!

  • @DrEetswa
    @DrEetswa 9 месяцев назад +1

    Should change the title to " *What WILL WW3 BE LIKE* if Germany had won WW2" as WW3 has not even happened

  • @dapweb9373
    @dapweb9373 Год назад +2

    One point of criticism I have is that it is difficult to follow this timeline as you put different names in each of the videos. It would be better if you just titled the videos, part 1, part 2, part 3.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  Год назад

      its' difficult because there are fact to be follow, not possible to end something and return to it after some minutes

  • @ie4291
    @ie4291 2 года назад +8

    Finally, i love your work❤️

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +1

      thank you!

  • @Firewordien
    @Firewordien 2 года назад +5

    While the video is not the most realistic it's still pretty interresting.

  • @davidgoodfellow2384
    @davidgoodfellow2384 7 месяцев назад +3

    This is amazing best thing I.ve watched in along time

  • @burtonwilliams5355
    @burtonwilliams5355 Год назад +2

    This video was SPOT ON !

  • @dpatty999
    @dpatty999 2 года назад +15

    nice. New video😃😃

  • @VIRTUALHORIZON-001
    @VIRTUALHORIZON-001 2 года назад +4

    My man is back with a banger 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Rick2010100
    @Rick2010100 Год назад +3

    I did not get, why Germany should have less nuclear weapons, as the country is very rich on Uranium. Even the most Russian Nukes are made of German Uranium wich was mined in the eastern part of Germany (GDR) for the Soviet Union. The large Uran recources have been discovered shortly after WW2 and the Wismut mine produced eg from 1946 - 1990 a total of 216.300 t Uranium.

  • @oilybat3269
    @oilybat3269 Год назад +3

    The real winner in this is Korea and japan

  • @arandomkv-2726
    @arandomkv-2726 2 года назад +3

    He is back!

  • @biharek7595
    @biharek7595 2 года назад +3

    He's back, let's gooo

  • @13e11even11
    @13e11even11 Год назад +1

    Hitler would not have thought Kennedy was weak. He would have respected his family history, and understood that Kennedy was not to be trifled with.

  • @Exotic3000
    @Exotic3000 Год назад +2

    I fast forwarded through this video. But, from what I did see, it looked somewhat realistic!

  • @randomball816
    @randomball816 Год назад +4

    Epic!!! I also liked the part with the tsunami

  • @zombie19gaming
    @zombie19gaming 2 года назад +9

    Idea for next video: How would have been cold war if the Soviet Union joined Axis in WW2?
    Edit: USA still defeats Japan by using nukes

  • @jombeemeanstroke6426
    @jombeemeanstroke6426 Год назад +1

    "except for the radiation that would go on to kill for many years" - ok, that's kind of a big thing to just write off.

  • @stephenmcmahon5833
    @stephenmcmahon5833 Год назад +1

    You'd be making What if the Allies won the war videos

  • @Chomperman3558
    @Chomperman3558 2 года назад +18

    1. you deserve more subs
    2. what if the Russian Republic somehow won the russian civil war and how would that affect WW2 or the cold war?

    • @porucznikfachowca
      @porucznikfachowca 2 года назад +1

      By russian republic you mean alexander kolchaks russia or a democracy lead by kerensky? Very cool idea though both ways

    • @whitezombie10
      @whitezombie10 2 года назад +1

      @@porucznikfachowca the white army

    • @porucznikfachowca
      @porucznikfachowca 2 года назад

      @@whitezombie10 Depends tho theres a lot of puppet states that were made with the regional generals acting like warlords essentialy, still a very cool idea

  • @cloud_walker660
    @cloud_walker660 2 года назад +6

    Yes a new video!!!

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад

      i hope you like it

  • @scottprendergast5262
    @scottprendergast5262 7 месяцев назад +4

    5:50
    ☆☆☆☆☆ THANKS FOR THE LAUGH COMRADE! VERY ELEGANT TOUCH FRIEND! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YIU AND FAMILY AND BLESS ALL COMME.TERS IN HERE AS.WELL-
    I thoroughly
    Enjoyed this video- best I have seen In a LONG

    • @scottprendergast5262
      @scottprendergast5262 7 месяцев назад

      Thank you my guys and my gals for the beautiful highlight!
      Dont know you personally but i love you all for reading my boring comment-

  • @robmclean4352
    @robmclean4352 8 дней назад +1

    6:10 In this timeline, that movie would've been called "The Germans Are Coming, The Germans Are Coming"!

  • @Mikhassel
    @Mikhassel 2 года назад +8

    I wonder why is said, that Hitler disliked nuclear weapons. Once seeing effect i believe that he would very quickly changed his mind. He hated poisonous gas (he was hit by chemical strike during WW1) a never used sarin, tabun and another chemical weapons on battlefields of WW2. (Even it would be very beneficial for him specially in the Eastern front.)

    • @eddieschwab864
      @eddieschwab864 2 года назад

      It is widely believed that while being strategically pragmatic, he regarded nuclear physics as "Jewish physics." His words according to sources such as Albert Speer, not mine.

    • @Mikhassel
      @Mikhassel 2 года назад

      @@eddieschwab864 Fair point. But still... i think that power of nuclear weapons and fact that USSR and USA have them too would led this megalomaniac to change his mind about nukes. But as i said - fair point.

  • @CatotheE
    @CatotheE 2 года назад +17

    I love this channel, man. One of my biggest inspirations.

    • @zvallid
      @zvallid  2 года назад +1

      thank you!

  • @cleanairninja9256
    @cleanairninja9256 Год назад +1

    If Buffalo gets nuked in this alternative reality, Fort Erie Ontario would be wiped out too as that city is on the border with Buffalo.

  • @toddstamos89
    @toddstamos89 Год назад +3

    Wait… Even though, in this scenario, the US doesn’t have to fight a second war in Europe, and can concentrate its efforts solely in the Pacific, it somehow takes a full year longer, SEVEN more nuclear bombs in addition to the two that were actually dropped (NINE TOTAL), and an invasion of Japan to win?
    (In the actually timeline it took 2 nuclear bombs and no invasion of Japan to win the war a year earlier than in your scenario. All that while also having to fight a second war front in Europe, which the US doesn’t have to do in your scenario)

    • @wingedhussar1453
      @wingedhussar1453 9 месяцев назад

      How did usa get nuclear bombs without stealing scientists tho

  • @jvbutalid8316
    @jvbutalid8316 2 года назад +4

    15:49 "the most powerful actual application of self-defense in history"

  • @StudioFrontline
    @StudioFrontline 2 года назад +4

    Hoi4 when you have nukes: 18:04

  • @mikebennet7697
    @mikebennet7697 Год назад +1

    "We fought the wrong enemy" - Gen George S Patton.

  • @kaiserreich2564
    @kaiserreich2564 Год назад +1

    the best history channel too