This video was very helpful to me. I'm about to enter filmschool now as an 18-year-old, and this video reveals a different outlook I've never had or been presented.
wise words. I work with cameras all day and edit all night with my work. Big difference between knowing how to shoot/edit/produce and working with people. Teams of people are what make films, not individuals.
Grading replaced by collaborating wow! The first school I went to not only had multiple ongoing tests, quizzes and assessments it reenforced its teaching with corporal punishment - a 3metre cane. But then again Australia did start out as a penal colony. Many years later I was forced to return to education due to work place injury, but luckily schooling had changed to student focused learning and I was able to regain my humanity and overcome some of the psychological damage inflicted on me.
It's a good point. Some people just don't know how to collaborate and it's a learned process. I find on my productions the best ones have a multitude of good ideas coming from every part facet of the team. I truly believe in team. However, when you lead you need to make sure that the idea is still go back to the original vision and stay true to it. Great video keep them coming :-)
He knows about Cinematography (and a good Cinematographer) & has some wise words about teaching but film school is not what he describes, including NFTS. By it's very nature, it's full of rich, self entitled and immature students. The level of egos are also horrendous. It's not worth the money, even if you have it. The majority of film school students don't make it, and unfortunately to say, for good reason. Best to work hard, be decent, aim to learn on the job and through all the free resources available. EDIT - to add, great work from CookeOptics love the videos! And respect to Oliver Stapelton, post is regarding film school.
I'm a graduate of the NFTS Cinematography class. This isn't the case at all. All of the Cinematographers in my class are working in the industry, some of whom are BSC. There are ego's of course, but you'll meet ego's in many creative professions and it's something that can often go hand in hand with ambition, it's part of the experience developing as a human being. I think the NFTS can absolutely be worth the money but it's like anything, you get out what you put in. Equally, not going to a film school shouldn't hold anyone back. Personally, i would never have developed the confidence to pursue the career of a cinematographer without the NFTS, but everyone' different.
@@kedbear79 Question: How old were you when you enlisted, and how old were most of the students? I‘d like to go there in a few years (I‘m currently 13), but I don‘t want to go if I am going to look like a baby in comparison to my peers. Thank you in advance!
@@nobodyburgen4594 NFTS has a minimum age limit to apply, you had to be at least 21 years old. This is because NFTS offers postgraduate degrees not bachelors.
There are a number of comments below accusing film schools of being "full of rich kids.." etc. This is wrong twice: NFTS students are not kids - the average age is 27 - nor are most of them rich - or having the fees paid by their parents. There are excellent scholarships available for many MA students and the idea that you emerge "massively in debt" is not necessarily true.. although it might be for some. However, the Cine department has an employment rate of over 90% for grads.. and being a well paid job, the part of your life you spend in debt should not go on "forever". Film school is not right for everyone: it is one of the choices available but best approached with an open mind and not the pre-conceived notions of people who most likely have not been to one. "We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are" Anais Nin
This was one of the best interviews I've seen and very relatable. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially on education and getting the best out of people
I was so lucky to speak with Mr Oliver , he is so kind and master of Cinematography. Not to many people around like he is
This video was very helpful to me. I'm about to enter filmschool now as an 18-year-old, and this video reveals a different outlook I've never had or been presented.
How is film school?
"If you are bombastic because you are an idiot........"
That part got me. I've learnt from this video.
wise words. I work with cameras all day and edit all night with my work. Big difference between knowing how to shoot/edit/produce and working with people. Teams of people are what make films, not individuals.
Grading replaced by collaborating wow!
The first school I went to not only had multiple ongoing tests, quizzes and assessments it reenforced its teaching with corporal punishment - a 3metre cane. But then again Australia did start out as a penal colony. Many years later I was forced to return to education due to work place injury, but luckily schooling had changed to student focused learning and I was able to regain my humanity and overcome some of the psychological damage inflicted on me.
This was a great episode and loved what he said about school. School kills creativity and confidence.
That's nor what he said, u Cleary MIS INTERPRETED HIS comments
@@emmanuelnkwocha1275 Actually that's not true. He did say that.
My dream school!
It's a good point. Some people just don't know how to collaborate and it's a learned process. I find on my productions the best ones have a multitude of good ideas coming from every part facet of the team. I truly believe in team. However, when you lead you need to make sure that the idea is still go back to the original vision and stay true to it. Great video keep them coming :-)
4:54 i thought he was doing an impression of Roger Deakins
Super interesting. Great video
The film school I went to was not like this. Damn.
Sadly most aren't...
Don't be fooled, this place isn't either.
@@cobblesticks you are an NFTS graduate?
@@cobblesticksDid you study there? If not i can only say you don't have the experience of going to the NFTS to be making comments like that.
@@kedbear79 if I said yes, how much difference would it make?
Box ticking kills any appreciation and understanding of the process.
"... but if you're bombastic because you're an idiot ...!" :D
I won multiple “best in the class” awards in film school, but I have to say, I agree that that was a bad idea. Even though it felt great at the time.
I may qualify as the bombastic idiot. I guess we will see after the results from this next production.
How was your next production Mr Bombastic?
He knows about Cinematography (and a good Cinematographer) & has some wise words about teaching but film school is not what he describes, including NFTS. By it's very nature, it's full of rich, self entitled and immature students. The level of egos are also horrendous. It's not worth the money, even if you have it. The majority of film school students don't make it, and unfortunately to say, for good reason. Best to work hard, be decent, aim to learn on the job and through all the free resources available.
EDIT - to add, great work from CookeOptics love the videos! And respect to Oliver Stapelton, post is regarding film school.
I'm a graduate of the NFTS Cinematography class. This isn't the case at all. All of the Cinematographers in my class are working in the industry, some of whom are BSC. There are ego's of course, but you'll meet ego's in many creative professions and it's something that can often go hand in hand with ambition, it's part of the experience developing as a human being. I think the NFTS can absolutely be worth the money but it's like anything, you get out what you put in. Equally, not going to a film school shouldn't hold anyone back. Personally, i would never have developed the confidence to pursue the career of a cinematographer without the NFTS, but everyone' different.
@@kedbear79 Question: How old were you when you enlisted, and how old were most of the students? I‘d like to go there in a few years (I‘m currently 13), but I don‘t want to go if I am going to look like a baby in comparison to my peers. Thank you in advance!
@@nobodyburgen4594 NFTS has a minimum age limit to apply, you had to be at least 21 years old. This is because NFTS offers postgraduate degrees not bachelors.
There are a number of comments below accusing film schools of being "full of rich kids.." etc. This is wrong twice: NFTS students are not kids - the average age is 27 - nor are most of them rich - or having the fees paid by their parents. There are excellent scholarships available for many MA students and the idea that you emerge "massively in debt" is not necessarily true.. although it might be for some. However, the Cine department has an employment rate of over 90% for grads.. and being a well paid job, the part of your life you spend in debt should not go on "forever". Film school is not right for everyone: it is one of the choices available but best approached with an open mind and not the pre-conceived notions of people who most likely have not been to one.
"We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are"
Anais Nin
This was one of the best interviews I've seen and very relatable. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, especially on education and getting the best out of people
You don't need to go to film school if your sole goal is to be an writer n director
Ahh...the privileged