I hope they don’t make otgf tornado because there are times where you get a read on an opponent and choose to use it to crush their jab/high attack and launch them, but if they make it tornado, it’ll become a less effective for that purpose and I wouldn’t want it to become combo filler. I really enjoyed launching people with it into double electric or even another otgf. So, no tornado on that please, but I guess it doesn’t matter to me. I’m happy my main is returning.
jin's electric is also a tornado, but it basically doesn't matter because his damage afterwards is almost as much as a full launch combo anyways, and i could see heihachi getting the same treatment. i would prefer otgf being a full launch and regular thunder god fist being a tornado if that were the case
Me too, OTGF needs to be that all killer, no filler move that's hard to execute, but is satisfying when it connects. Especially when paired with EWGF and or another OTGF.
1:25 Oh man I've played years of Tekken 7 but just now starting to realize - the entire Geometric Plane is mostly made of stock unreal engine assets (Look at The Ball™️ in the background!)
I just hope they don't turn OTGF into a tornado on hit. Your prediction is quite coherent, I'm sure that the movelist will go in that direction. Great video!
You forgot omen UF3+4 bro! It's GOTTA be in here. Also: OTGF doing screw would mess up the high skill combos really bad. Like double omen into filler + screw. I hope they let OTGF have it's own properties
We need some proper launchers and pokes for Heihachi. That was his main flaws in T7. That's why i hope they bring the "twin pistons" back. With so many characters in this game that can spam a lot of easy launchers i think it's necessary to buff Heihachi. Electric and FF+2 doesn't cut it anymore.
i think they'd make RAI 2,1 a heat engager instead, since it'd bounce up from the ground to launch probably And then it'd be a cool combo extension if you end a combo with it into heat dash
I feel like demon breath is going to be a heat engager. It's an iconic attack and it seems fitting since kuma has it as a heat engager too. I also hope that raijin's wrath is a heat engager ensteat of raijin 1, it just looks cooler and is the old punsh parry follwup. I also think it would be neet if in heat he gets his old twin pistons in df+1 df+2 as a throwback to his glory days when he was the most onga Mishima probably 😅.
I think his Raijin 1 will become a screw launcher (screw not tornado btw) but on airborne hit it will aerial spin Raijin 21 will get a small damage nerf and become a heat engager first hit 15 second 23 He'll get a Raijin low but only in heat that is -15 but knockdown on hit for a free ff2 giving 30-40 damage When going into Raijin he can parry similar to Reina So he'll get a raijin mixup in heat he can do the low 3 times or Raijin 21 dash for a launch. If a launch is too much it can knockdown into OTGF for 60+ damage anyway The stance parry can be beaten by a jumping move which is why Raijin 1 aerial spin to counter but since it's a high Yoshi and Claudio will be a bad matchup for him making the stance a nice addition and not broken Ws1 may become i12 he'll get a i14 ws3+4 knee punish for big damage but not a launch similar to Jinpachi Tag 2 u4 knee Will still lack a i15 standing and ws launcher
For Tekken 8, Heihachi would likely focus on pressure and chip damage from his various mids (including f+3), similar to Kuma, but with better frames. Instead of f+1+2 being the heat engager, i suspect demon breath (1+2) to be the 12f heat engager.
what about the 1 b 2 ,1+2 the rage drive 10f on ch as heat engager ,drag has it with 121,bryan has it with 124 so i think his rage drive move or something like that will be heat engager /heat dash
bb1+2 as a guard break is OP. It's too fast and especially if the followup is Hei's 112 then it's too much because of the wall splat unless they remove 112 wall splat but i doubt it.
Omen won't be a tornado because I'm sure we're going to see Omen, Omen, Heat burst, Omen, t! Omen, Heat dash Omen as a twitter combo Also b2 is pretty similar to Lidia's b1 so I forsee that's going to be a Heat engager, it would still allow his rage drive 1,b,2 ch confirm like claudio's by making 1,b2 still combo and 1,b2F would be full launch
1,b+2 is too much fun to spam in the neutral, and I doubt if it were a heat engager, it would be -2 again, which is the reason it's so spammable. I'm praying they keep it as is. lol b+2 is rather slow and linear, but I can see it becoming a Heat Engager as well since f+3 is already his main CH launcher
Eu amo esse personagem, ele pode ser ruim ou bom, não importa, o que importa é que ele não é igual os filhos/netos sojados dele, a testosterona dele compensa pelo excesso de soja deles! Cansei de jogar de Reina e Kazuya, finalmente vou ter meu velho de volta ❤
Disagree on F1+2. My money's on B2. It visually mixes up with db2 and there's a pattern of wall-bounce moves being converted to Heat Engagers. Bryan QCF1+2, Law FF3, Paul uf2, Lars Sen1, etc
@@TheCaptainhowdy11 because he's perfect? lol. I mean maybe that's dramatic but I can confidently say I *like* Heihachi, I've played him for 2000+ hours, do you think I'm gonna stop now? It's still a different game with different matchups.
We need the "Child Yeeter" DF2+3 F2 from Tekken DR!
what if your father struck you with a heavens wrath busting your nose and jaw in
I thought only Jinpachi used it?
I hope they don’t make otgf tornado because there are times where you get a read on an opponent and choose to use it to crush their jab/high attack and launch them, but if they make it tornado, it’ll become a less effective for that purpose and I wouldn’t want it to become combo filler. I really enjoyed launching people with it into double electric or even another otgf. So, no tornado on that please, but I guess it doesn’t matter to me. I’m happy my main is returning.
Tornado or not, I just hope OTGF can be used mid combos to optmize damage. The move is too cool to be just a follow-up in certain situations
jin's electric is also a tornado, but it basically doesn't matter because his damage afterwards is almost as much as a full launch combo anyways, and i could see heihachi getting the same treatment.
i would prefer otgf being a full launch and regular thunder god fist being a tornado if that were the case
They could only make it tornado mid juggle instead of an instant tornado.
Me too, OTGF needs to be that all killer, no filler move that's hard to execute, but is satisfying when it connects. Especially when paired with EWGF and or another OTGF.
1:25 Oh man I've played years of Tekken 7 but just now starting to realize - the entire Geometric Plane is mostly made of stock unreal engine assets (Look at The Ball™️ in the background!)
Nah, that's just a mod I use for that stage. The real Geometric Plane has all the tiles that break and becomes colorful ones.
O primeiro botao q me veio à mente quando pensei em heat engagers foi o b2 na real. Era meio ofuscado pelo f3 no 7 e seria uma maneira de diferenciar.
I also think making his hell sweep launch on the first hit in heat would be a great idea
Great video man! So stoked for Heihachi come back man
I just hope they don't turn OTGF into a tornado on hit. Your prediction is quite coherent, I'm sure that the movelist will go in that direction. Great video!
I hope old df12 is available in heat, like his t7 boss version where it is df1 1+2.
You forgot omen UF3+4 bro! It's GOTTA be in here.
Also: OTGF doing screw would mess up the high skill combos really bad. Like double omen into filler + screw. I hope they let OTGF have it's own properties
We need some proper launchers and pokes for Heihachi. That was his main flaws in T7. That's why i hope they bring the "twin pistons" back. With so many characters in this game that can spam a lot of easy launchers i think it's necessary to buff Heihachi. Electric and FF+2 doesn't cut it anymore.
I hope they keeping bb3+4 for the sake of lol
That's the best move and should remain unchanged
i think they'd make RAI 2,1 a heat engager instead, since it'd bounce up from the ground to launch probably
And then it'd be a cool combo extension if you end a combo with it into heat dash
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I will never miss the days of generic crouch dash. Iron Hand being bufferable makes life so much better
Imagine his 1+2 having a knockback like Jin's heat smash on normal hit
I feel like demon breath is going to be a heat engager. It's an iconic attack and it seems fitting since kuma has it as a heat engager too. I also hope that raijin's wrath is a heat engager ensteat of raijin 1, it just looks cooler and is the old punsh parry follwup. I also think it would be neet if in heat he gets his old twin pistons in df+1 df+2 as a throwback to his glory days when he was the most onga Mishima probably 😅.
Yeah, having old twin pistons in Heat would be sick
I think his Raijin 1 will become a screw launcher (screw not tornado btw) but on airborne hit it will aerial spin
Raijin 21 will get a small damage nerf and become a heat engager first hit 15 second 23
He'll get a Raijin low but only in heat that is -15 but knockdown on hit for a free ff2 giving 30-40 damage
When going into Raijin he can parry similar to Reina
So he'll get a raijin mixup in heat he can do the low 3 times or Raijin 21 dash for a launch. If a launch is too much it can knockdown into OTGF for 60+ damage anyway
The stance parry can be beaten by a jumping move which is why Raijin 1 aerial spin to counter but since it's a high Yoshi and Claudio will be a bad matchup for him making the stance a nice addition and not broken
Ws1 may become i12 he'll get a i14 ws3+4 knee punish for big damage but not a launch similar to Jinpachi Tag 2 u4 knee
Will still lack a i15 standing and ws launcher
For Tekken 8, Heihachi would likely focus on pressure and chip damage from his various mids (including f+3), similar to Kuma, but with better frames. Instead of f+1+2 being the heat engager, i suspect demon breath (1+2) to be the 12f heat engager.
Like Kuma too
I really hope I'll like Heihachi. I main Kazuya and I love his playstyle. I tried Jin and Reina but something doesnt click with them.
I’m pretty sure the rage drive will be a heat engager
I just hope they keep RAJ stance unblockable cancel, stance canceling, string cancels and his other unblockables
what about the 1 b 2 ,1+2 the rage drive 10f on ch as heat engager ,drag has it with 121,bryan has it with 124 so i think his rage drive move or something like that will be heat engager /heat dash
bb1+2 as a guard break is OP. It's too fast and especially if the followup is Hei's 112 then it's too much because of the wall splat unless they remove 112 wall splat but i doubt it.
Omen won't be a tornado because I'm sure we're going to see Omen, Omen, Heat burst, Omen, t! Omen, Heat dash Omen as a twitter combo
Also b2 is pretty similar to Lidia's b1 so I forsee that's going to be a Heat engager, it would still allow his rage drive 1,b,2 ch confirm like claudio's by making 1,b2 still combo and 1,b2F would be full launch
1,b+2 is too much fun to spam in the neutral, and I doubt if it were a heat engager, it would be -2 again, which is the reason it's so spammable. I'm praying they keep it as is. lol
b+2 is rather slow and linear, but I can see it becoming a Heat Engager as well since f+3 is already his main CH launcher
Eu amo esse personagem, ele pode ser ruim ou bom, não importa, o que importa é que ele não é igual os filhos/netos sojados dele, a testosterona dele compensa pelo excesso de soja deles! Cansei de jogar de Reina e Kazuya, finalmente vou ter meu velho de volta ❤
Oh, nice game on the screen
D 2+3 has to launch in heat. It just will
What are easy electric inputs?
It's when you are in heat with Mishimas, you don't have to hit the perfect input for the electric and it uses heat meter instead.
Disagree on F1+2. My money's on B2. It visually mixes up with db2 and there's a pattern of wall-bounce moves being converted to Heat Engagers. Bryan QCF1+2, Law FF3, Paul uf2, Lars Sen1, etc
You look like Bogur overwatch
It's really hard to listen because of reading
It's going to be copy and paste Heihachi.
That's a positive scenario
@@tacitozetticci9308 Why play the same character?
@@TheCaptainhowdy11 because he's perfect? lol. I mean maybe that's dramatic but I can confidently say I *like* Heihachi, I've played him for 2000+ hours, do you think I'm gonna stop now? It's still a different game with different matchups.