This is a good overview of UA's emulations of the legendary Fairchild compressors. Just a couple comments: 1. LAT/VERT is essentially Mid/Side, in that order. Thus in LAT/VERT mode, the Mid signal is routed through the upper portion and Side goes through the lower. LAT=Mid, VERT=Side. I think Pete misspoke and got it backward. (These terms come from how records are cut with a lathe - mono waveforms are represented by Lateral stylus movements, thus the squiggles in the grooves, and stereo info is recorded via Vertical movement of the stylus.) 2. The 660 is not just a mono version of the 670 - there are differences in threshold and gain behaviors, input range, distortion characteristics, etc. I do agree with Pete's favorite uses of the two models: 670 on drums, 660 on bass and vocals. More detailed info about each of these plugins can be found in the UAD manual. Anyway, thanks for the vid and the excellent channel! One of the best mixing resources out there.
Your videos are golden. You are always very transparent (Pun intended) with your videos and I feel it helps with guiding accurate judgment when it comes to mixing and the techniques that come with it.
The analog thing also has a tiny ratio knob on the back. And another weird thing with it, is that the knee size changes both according to the ratio and threshold, which is why there is an input knob. So you kinda have to jump back and forth between the buttons to fine tune the compressor. The plugin didn't add the ratio knob to make it easier to control. And the easy to controll reason is also why the ratio knob is on the back instead of on the front. Back in the 50s they also thought that they weren't going to change the ratio much
Youve got great energy, excellent no-bs delivery, and great presentation skills. Unfortunately, the fairchild means buying hardware to run the plugin so I'll probably roll with the Waves version but I'm curious if you've compared them at all. Subscribed!
Just a note for any Slate people out there. If you have the bundle, the "FG-Mu" on the Virtual Buss Compressors is their emulation of the 670. I was curious if it was in there so I looked it up. Sorry If you said this in the video and I missed it!
No worries, John! Ha, Steven is gonna kill me for saying this if he sees this but I don't think the FG-Mu sounds like a Fairchild at all. Especially because of that big 2K bump it has. BUT, it is very very similar to the Fairchild in that it works like a classic Vari-Mu comp. Doesn't mean it's bad, though.... Whats great about the FG-Mu is you can actually custom dial in your attack and release times :-)
Hey thanks. I was already familiar with how to use this plugin but did learn something new! That being the release times of the "Time Constant" knob. I assumed that #6 would have the slowest release of all. Not true! However there is one control you didn't touch on that I'm a little hazy on what it does. That being the "DC thres" control. I assume that means DC threshold? I have played around with it not knowing exactly what it (or I) was doing but noticed the more I turned it counterclockwise the less compression seemed to be happening. Also noticed there's four little icons that appear to depict different levels of bass rolloff. Probably I should just look it up in the manual!
Man these videos are invaluable!! Thanks Pete. I have the free Legacy Fairchild you get with the Apollo and I was baffled until now. I'm relatively new to the sound engineering side of music and the Apollo and related plugins is a big step up in required knowledge and sound production responsibility and this series is really putting all the basics in place for me to go to town on a track and find what I like rather than spend tons of time figuring out how things work. The one thing you missed on these was the DC Threshold knob. Just wondering what that did? Thanks man
Is there anyway to get a slow attack and fast release with the Fairchild? It seems like the time constant settings are not set for that (Also isn't it true that the release of the fairchild is fixed? I saw a tutorial video from universal audio that said that)
if you was recording ah artist like lil wayne or future ..what would be your threshold and time constant numbers? I see you got 6 for threshold and 6 for time constant..im curious..
I have experienced that with Slate Digital VMR. Everything else on the U.I. (switches, knobs, buttons) works but the meters won't move at all. Try saving your project and reopening it.
Also, if your input signal isn't reaching the threshold level, the compressor won't be triggered no matter how high your ratio is. Try lowering your threshold level.
This was a cool video ! I would have loved a comparison with and w/o the compressor but that wasn't the main goal of the video so that's ok. Really liked the input trick since I didn't know about that. I tried it on the waves version on an already mastered track and didn't see much of a difference so I'll have to try it again. Maybe the waves version just doesn't do it as much.
Glad you liked the vid! :-) I think you'd notice the compressor more on a track with less processing on it IMO. But on the flipside the Waves Puigchild is far more transparent than the UAD Fairchilds. The UAD ones really do sound close. BUT, that in no means the Waves isn't good. I always say use what you have and never let gear stop anyone from making great music! :-)
Mix Better Now That's not a problem to me. I was just curious because it was so apparent here. But the waves of definitely add color to the sound when compressing. I had to get rid of it on the mix buss a few time because I didn't like how it was affecting my kicks haha.
Please note that real life Fairchild 660 is not 1/2 of the 670! The circuit/power supply is different .Great, real life examples are MERCURY 66 , ANALOGUE TUBE AT-1 ,EAR 660...... Unless U are Ringo Starr, 670 sounds good with compression under 3 dB. The 660 can be pushed harder --ala 6 db.
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This is a good overview of UA's emulations of the legendary Fairchild compressors. Just a couple comments:
1. LAT/VERT is essentially Mid/Side, in that order. Thus in LAT/VERT mode, the Mid signal is routed through the upper portion and Side goes through the lower. LAT=Mid, VERT=Side. I think Pete misspoke and got it backward.
(These terms come from how records are cut with a lathe - mono waveforms are represented by Lateral stylus movements, thus the squiggles in the grooves, and stereo info is recorded via Vertical movement of the stylus.)
2. The 660 is not just a mono version of the 670 - there are differences in threshold and gain behaviors, input range, distortion characteristics, etc. I do agree with Pete's favorite uses of the two models: 670 on drums, 660 on bass and vocals.
More detailed info about each of these plugins can be found in the UAD manual.
Anyway, thanks for the vid and the excellent channel! One of the best mixing resources out there.
Eddie have you your own channel ?
I know I'm more than a little late finding this but thank you!
You explain and very well. I have 1176, LA2A, fairchild and pultec plugins and never used them until watching your vids
Like very much these 101 series man...THANKS a lot for showcasing...👈🏾🧢!!!
That 670 controls the low end so good!
Your videos are golden. You are always very transparent (Pun intended) with your videos and I feel it helps with guiding accurate judgment when it comes to mixing and the techniques that come with it.
excellent video pete. Loved it. Cheers.
You thank us for our time. Actually, thank you, Sir, for yours!
Cleveland Harrison Much love, Cleveland 👊🏼😉❤️🤙🏼 - Pete
Excellent! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
What a pretty song.
Great video! Thanks alot!
Wonderful video as always, Pete.. Thumbs up!
Cheers, Carlos! :-)
Wow ... another great demo !!!
how is it on vocals
Thanks! Hugely instructive - really great tunes as well :)
Nice one! Finally I know what the Time Constant knob was about!
thanx Pete, it´s similar withe the PuigChild from Waves ... now I have an idea how to use it .
Exactly, Rainer! The Puigchild is Waves' Fairchild :-) Great plugin. Glad you liked the vid!
Danke für das tolle Videos!
Perfect - great video on basics of using this compressor which I needed!
Good demo, Pete !!!
Thanks! ;-)
As allways very interesting thank you Pete !
Thank you Homer! :-)
What a great tutorial! Thanks so much....
Tim Lee My pleasure, Tim! 👍🏻😊
Just printed the Time Constants of the Fairchild shown at 9:50 .Very handy, thanks!
Erik van Zadel 🤘😆
Very informative! I just realize the input knob actually is like tubey gain knob in guitar amp that color the sound. Thanks.
That's spot on, Amir! It most def is! Thanks for watching :-)
The analog thing also has a tiny ratio knob on the back. And another weird thing with it, is that the knee size changes both according to the ratio and threshold, which is why there is an input knob. So you kinda have to jump back and forth between the buttons to fine tune the compressor. The plugin didn't add the ratio knob to make it easier to control. And the easy to controll reason is also why the ratio knob is on the back instead of on the front. Back in the 50s they also thought that they weren't going to change the ratio much
Fairchild 670 has an internal operating level of -8dBS. Most UAD plugins are typically -18 dBFS.
had no idea i can compress mid side! very interesting
16:05 Vocal Comp
Rad as always!
Thank you Brandon! :-)
Youve got great energy, excellent no-bs delivery, and great presentation skills. Unfortunately, the fairchild means buying hardware to run the plugin so I'll probably roll with the Waves version but I'm curious if you've compared them at all. Subscribed!
Mark Singer Thanks for the kind words, Mark! And yes, by all means use what you have or what you like. Making music is the most important part ✌️😎
Just a note for any Slate people out there. If you have the bundle, the "FG-Mu" on the Virtual Buss Compressors is their emulation of the 670. I was curious if it was in there so I looked it up. Sorry If you said this in the video and I missed it!
No worries, John! Ha, Steven is gonna kill me for saying this if he sees this but I don't think the FG-Mu sounds like a Fairchild at all. Especially because of that big 2K bump it has. BUT, it is very very similar to the Fairchild in that it works like a classic Vari-Mu comp. Doesn't mean it's bad, though.... Whats great about the FG-Mu is you can actually custom dial in your attack and release times :-)
Great video! :)
had no idea how to use this compressor until now
Hey thanks. I was already familiar with how to use this plugin but did learn something new! That being the release times of the "Time Constant" knob. I assumed that #6 would have the slowest release of all. Not true! However there is one control you didn't touch on that I'm a little hazy on what it does. That being the "DC thres" control. I assume that means DC threshold? I have played around with it not knowing exactly what it (or I) was doing but noticed the more I turned it counterclockwise the less compression seemed to be happening. Also noticed there's four little icons that appear to depict different levels of bass rolloff. Probably I should just look it up in the manual!
Great video Thanks man!
Thanks for the helpful hints on this plugin. I don't have the UAD version, but the Waves and the T-Racks. I assume they will do ok also.
Hi, is uad quality better than Waves? ?
Man these videos are invaluable!! Thanks Pete. I have the free Legacy Fairchild you get with the Apollo and I was baffled until now. I'm relatively new to the sound engineering side of music and the Apollo and related plugins is a big step up in required knowledge and sound production responsibility and this series is really putting all the basics in place for me to go to town on a track and find what I like rather than spend tons of time figuring out how things work.
The one thing you missed on these was the DC Threshold knob. Just wondering what that did?
Thanks man
Is there anyway to get a slow attack and fast release with the Fairchild? It seems like the time constant settings are not set for that (Also isn't it true that the release of the fairchild is fixed? I saw a tutorial video from universal audio that said that)
Can the 670 be used in Final Master?...Or is it mainly an individual track only?
How can use the fairchild as limiter without a ratio knob?
if you was recording ah artist like lil wayne or future ..what would be your threshold and time constant numbers? I see you got 6 for threshold and 6 for time constant..im curious..
i dont know why but when i use this plugin my meter doesnt move??? even when i use hard ratios? can someone help me
I have experienced that with Slate Digital VMR. Everything else on the U.I. (switches, knobs, buttons) works but the meters won't move at all. Try saving your project and reopening it.
Thank You
Also, if your input signal isn't reaching the threshold level, the compressor won't be triggered no matter how high your ratio is. Try lowering your threshold level.
This was a cool video ! I would have loved a comparison with and w/o the compressor but that wasn't the main goal of the video so that's ok. Really liked the input trick since I didn't know about that. I tried it on the waves version on an already mastered track and didn't see much of a difference so I'll have to try it again. Maybe the waves version just doesn't do it as much.
Glad you liked the vid! :-) I think you'd notice the compressor more on a track with less processing on it IMO. But on the flipside the Waves Puigchild is far more transparent than the UAD Fairchilds. The UAD ones really do sound close. BUT, that in no means the Waves isn't good. I always say use what you have and never let gear stop anyone from making great music! :-)
Mix Better Now That's not a problem to me. I was just curious because it was so apparent here. But the waves of definitely add color to the sound when compressing. I had to get rid of it on the mix buss a few time because I didn't like how it was affecting my kicks haha.
Right on!
i see that flag in the background and that is an immediate go to another video symbol.
So there is no way of allowing the transients through the compressor? Those attack times are ridiculous.
Please note that real life Fairchild 660 is not 1/2 of the 670! The circuit/power supply is different .Great, real life examples are MERCURY 66 , ANALOGUE TUBE AT-1 ,EAR 660...... Unless U are Ringo Starr, 670 sounds good with compression under 3 dB. The 660 can be pushed harder --ala 6 db.
Sir, i am very dissapointed, i did not see no meat nor potaTOES... Great tutorial and video, subscribed.
Definitely has a Gin Blossoms vibe.
11:00 Mathematical setup :thinking_face:
3 percenter huh
Next up... How to turn an empty peach slices tin into a microphone
I was thinking water to wine first, lead to gold second (so I can get a tasty buzz while making gold) and then I'll do the tin can to a microphone 3rd ;-)