The lady the one doing the interview she's so great she's just sitting there listening and that is the only thing she needs to do and when the conversation is coming to her she ask another question and she listens she's so great at what she does because that's what it takes to do that
But people may not find her in the top 10 most intelligent people in the world because of what she's interested in in that science physics etc her interests are into something else that are needed in this world and that is good
What a delight to hear Dr. Renzulli summarize his numerous contributions to education. I was very lucky to have been a work-study student in Dr. Renzulli’s office in 1972 and 1973 when I was an undergraduate at the University of Connecticut. He took his work-study students to a G&T conference in NYC. I have never forgotten it. I participated in the 2012 Confratute at UConn and enjoyed it enormously. I work at a community college, so I don’t interact with young children, but Dr. Renzulli’s teaching philosophy and methods are relevant in that setting too. Thank you.
Interesting he emphasises creativity so much. It’s sad that most formal education systems suck all creativity out of us while attempting to make us smarter
I asked my daughters school what they thought gifted was…l didn’t want her simple accelerated because she was advanced (early self learner) because she’s a perfectionist (like mom). l didn’t want that academic pressure added since she learns on own anyway. I asked whether gifted program focused on creativity and they went silent. When l was out in a gifted program, it was purely about creative intelligence and the program was focused on creative thinking. I am worried that’s not the case these days.
@@IngeniousBaby the difficulty here is they’re unaffordable for many. Resources, unique curriculum and highly qualified teachers cost money 💵 it would be nice to have more affordable options eventually
This man in the video obviously he was interested in going deep into intelligence to be able to explain it so he is very good at whatever he does is very simple he had an extreme interest and willingness
This is the first time I've seen this video. Utterly fascinating, and a different approach to defining giftedness than I've seen before (possibly because I haven't researched giftedness very much!). My 8yo son has hypernumeracy and hyperlexia, and he has solved math problems in different and interesting ways for some years now. He is currently very interested in how many combinations of license plate numbers might exist in our province. Whether by learning it elsewhere or on his own, he's discovered the relationship between multiplication and discovering how many combinations are possible. In a test of his IQ (admittedly done quite early -- he was just shy of six), he scored just shy of gifted, but I have always thought him to be so. Gifted is as gifted does, right? Unfortunately, he is jaded by math in school.
Thank you so much for your comment! Your son sounds like a very bright young man! Yes, IQ tests are not always completely accurate so you might want to consider testing him again. However, the most important thing is that you continue to nurture him and his abilities regardless of any "label" testing will place upon him.
I tested as profoundly gifted in kindergarten. After a lifetime enduring hatred, alienation, and jealousy (with no help or support,) now I mostly just want to die. 56 years of this hell is enough.
I'm deeply sorry to hear of your struggles. It's important to know you're not alone and support is available. Please consider reaching out to a mental health professional or a helpline for the care you deserve. Your experiences matter, and there are people ready to help you through this.
Being gifted DOES equal IQ, and it is a genetic mutation of accelerated capacity that is just as significant and real as being developmentally slowed. What it DOESN’T mean, is superiority over other humans, any more than being mentally slow equates with inferiority to other humans. It doesn’t. The problem this guy has, is that he sees giftedness as a matter of achievement, or potential for accomplishment (or worse, fame), not as a way of BEING in the world, that comes with a serious cost as well. In America (where we’ve confused a right to equal opportunity at birth with equal capacity at birth) we’re almost in a state of denial that genius even exists, but are completely ready to buy that mental retardation exists. Why? If the one mutation is possible, so is the other. The truth is, BOTH groups are developmentally challenged, but those who are accelerated rather than slowed, only receive conscious leadership and friendship, IF they prove to have a high ROI for society at large. For the developmentally slowed, all the love is unconditional. For the develop accelerated, all the love is conditional. They’re only valued as humans, IF they achieve OTHER people’s goals. But as Albert Camus said, “An achievement is a bondage. it obliges one to a higher achievement.” This pattern of high expectations is unrelenting, and totally unforgiving. Compassion and assistance for the gifted shouldn’t be conditional, based upon hitting some externally decided accomplishment milestone.
I have a gifted kid. Her teachers say that she has struggles leaving activities because she gets so into everything and fights switching activities…public school is a constant shift every 15 minutes. Any advice?
a huge problem is that the way typical women relate to situations is highly based in emotions. this approach is highly ineffective with neurodivergent children, especially with gifted/adhd/spectrum type individuals. this is why these children tend to respond, on average, to the father more readily. The facts and logic and eductional approach to parenting is highly comforting to them, and the inability to detach emotionally hampers the ability of the mother to be an effective parent, leading to a state of cognitive dissonance in the child, frustration in the mother, and a resort to "because I said so" parenting tecniques that make the behavioral problems in the child much much worse.
Parenting neurodivergent kids isn’t about gender-it’s about understanding the child’s unique needs. Both emotional support and logical approaches are valuable and often work best together. While structure may comfort some children, emotional connection helps others feel secure. Effective parenting comes from collaboration, flexibility, and a willingness to adapt, not stereotypes. Every family and child is unique, and diverse parenting styles can be a strength.
@ Certainly studies agree children from single parent households, regardless of gender, have significantly more behavioral problems. That is true. Due to lack of research on single father households, studies aren’t exactly robust in comparison, but there is a slight trend of better outcomes for children in grades, and economic and social success later in life from single father households vs single mother households. There are SIGNIFICANT physiological differences between men and women, and it affects their respective abilities to take over both roles in the absence of two parents . Men are better at that. Women have a much higher tendency towards narcissistic and hostile parenting.
Well this isn’t true. There are plenty of fathers that are hands off in education and nurturing their child’s creativity. Unlike the mother. It’s not impossible, but to pretend like fathers nurture the abilities of the gifted child is far from true because gifted children require a greater set of attention and patience.
Men are often just as emotional as women. They just display it differently. My own dad certainly acted upon his emotions and totally lacks reason. Both of my parents have the "because I said so" attitude. Look at how many men end up with addictions due to bad childhoods or end up in anger management. I think it has more to do with how you're raised than your gender. Yes, women tend to cry easier, but men are more prone, on average, to anger outbursts or simply shutting down.
To really shine on something a person must have an extreme interest and willingness it could have a very poor IQ but on that they're extremely high genius high
@@IngeniousBaby misguided desire based on his misunderstanding I'm sure. Non gifted kids can't learn in the same manner as gifted kids, so using the same approach would likely fail. In general deriving an approach using a special case then expanding to a general case makes no sense. You would think one of his gifted students would explain that simple concept to him. If he'd use a scientific approach or anything close to it, he would very quickly see his error. Instead he's making up arguments to support his opinions based on nonsense (historical estimate of an iq which the person estimating then judges... no bias there I'm sure lol). How is he normalizing for the flyn effect or coming up with a baseline.
Also ppl are born gifted. I dont see how that's debatable at this point. But if he doubts I can introduce him to a bunch, as they're pretty common in my family.
@𝕾𝖙𝖗𝖎𝖛𝖊𝖗 - مُصْلِح take anyone's iq at anytime throughout their life and the results will be correlated at about 0.9. There's also literature looking at twins and family members showing genetic links to intelligence. If you've ever raised a kid you'd also notice it almost instantly, that some are smarter than others. Very high correlation with achievements at an early age (e.g., a 6 month old that's talking and the odds of them being gifted).
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The lady the one doing the interview she's so great she's just sitting there listening and that is the only thing she needs to do and when the conversation is coming to her she ask another question and she listens she's so great at what she does because that's what it takes to do that
Both people in this video are extremely great at what they do
But people may not find her in the top 10 most intelligent people in the world because of what she's interested in in that science physics etc her interests are into something else that are needed in this world and that is good
Whoever reads this continue doing whatever you do that you are worthy to be admired that is correct
Thanks for the compliment Joe!
What a delight to hear Dr. Renzulli summarize his numerous contributions to education. I was very lucky to have been a work-study student in Dr. Renzulli’s office in 1972 and 1973 when I was an undergraduate at the University of Connecticut. He took his work-study students to a G&T conference in NYC. I have never forgotten it. I participated in the 2012 Confratute at UConn and enjoyed it enormously. I work at a community college, so I don’t interact with young children, but Dr. Renzulli’s teaching philosophy and methods are relevant in that setting too. Thank you.
Hi can i ask some questions
Thank you for your thoughtful response! Yes, he is so insightful and glad a wider audience can benefit from his work!
@cheMay What is your question?
What is your question?
Interesting he emphasises creativity so much. It’s sad that most formal education systems suck all creativity out of us while attempting to make us smarter
Agree. Luckily today there are many more schools with a progressive approach
I asked my daughters school what they thought gifted was…l didn’t want her simple accelerated because she was advanced (early self learner) because she’s a perfectionist (like mom). l didn’t want that academic pressure added since she learns on own anyway. I asked whether gifted program focused on creativity and they went silent. When l was out in a gifted program, it was purely about creative intelligence and the program was focused on creative thinking. I am worried that’s not the case these days.
@@IngeniousBaby the difficulty here is they’re unaffordable for many. Resources, unique curriculum and highly qualified teachers cost money 💵 it would be nice to have more affordable options eventually
This man in the video obviously he was interested in going deep into intelligence to be able to explain it so he is very good at whatever he does is very simple he had an extreme interest and willingness
This is the first time I've seen this video. Utterly fascinating, and a different approach to defining giftedness than I've seen before (possibly because I haven't researched giftedness very much!). My 8yo son has hypernumeracy and hyperlexia, and he has solved math problems in different and interesting ways for some years now. He is currently very interested in how many combinations of license plate numbers might exist in our province. Whether by learning it elsewhere or on his own, he's discovered the relationship between multiplication and discovering how many combinations are possible. In a test of his IQ (admittedly done quite early -- he was just shy of six), he scored just shy of gifted, but I have always thought him to be so. Gifted is as gifted does, right?
Unfortunately, he is jaded by math in school.
Thank you so much for your comment! Your son sounds like a very bright young man! Yes, IQ tests are not always completely accurate so you might want to consider testing him again. However, the most important thing is that you continue to nurture him and his abilities regardless of any "label" testing will place upon him.
@courierdubois you might also find this video interesting: ruclips.net/video/qBK9NJLzj0U/видео.html
Thank you very much,
My definition of Giftedness: The possession of special potential in a subject that has no scientific pillars.
Just learning is a gift
I thought that was quite a lovely and informative conversation. Thank you.
So glad you found it useful!
I tested as profoundly gifted in kindergarten. After a lifetime enduring hatred, alienation, and jealousy (with no help or support,) now I mostly just want to die. 56 years of this hell is enough.
I'm deeply sorry to hear of your struggles. It's important to know you're not alone and support is available. Please consider reaching out to a mental health professional or a helpline for the care you deserve. Your experiences matter, and there are people ready to help you through this.
Hope you are able to find some joy
Being gifted DOES equal IQ, and it is a genetic mutation of accelerated capacity that is just as significant and real as being developmentally slowed. What it DOESN’T mean, is superiority over other humans, any more than being mentally slow equates with inferiority to other humans. It doesn’t.
The problem this guy has, is that he sees giftedness as a matter of achievement, or potential for accomplishment (or worse, fame), not as a way of BEING in the world, that comes with a serious cost as well.
In America (where we’ve confused a right to equal opportunity at birth with equal capacity at birth) we’re almost in a state of denial that genius even exists, but are completely ready to buy that mental retardation exists.
Why? If the one mutation is possible, so is the other.
The truth is, BOTH groups are developmentally challenged, but those who are accelerated rather than slowed, only receive conscious leadership and friendship, IF they prove to have a high ROI for society at large.
For the developmentally slowed, all the love is unconditional. For the develop accelerated, all the love is conditional. They’re only valued as humans, IF they achieve OTHER people’s goals.
But as Albert Camus said, “An achievement is a bondage. it obliges one to a higher achievement.” This pattern of high expectations is unrelenting, and totally unforgiving.
Compassion and assistance for the gifted shouldn’t be conditional, based upon hitting some externally decided accomplishment milestone.
So well said!!
Mensa seems to disagree… they awarded him the lifetime achievement award.
Thank you 😊 this is valuable
Glad it was helpful!
I have a gifted kid. Her teachers say that she has struggles leaving activities because she gets so into everything and fights switching activities…public school is a constant shift every 15 minutes. Any advice?
Get her out of public school and try an alternative way for education.
Supervised Mensa IQ 116 ( SD 15 ).
Tested in 2016.
Good input.Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Do you have any content on Highly Sensitive Children please 🙏 🥺🙂
Not yet! But I have an episode on Twice Exceptional you might find interesting: ruclips.net/video/LKqJZRLQMlw/видео.html
a huge problem is that the way typical women relate to situations is highly based in emotions. this approach is highly ineffective with neurodivergent children, especially with gifted/adhd/spectrum type individuals. this is why these children tend to respond, on average, to the father more readily. The facts and logic and eductional approach to parenting is highly comforting to them, and the inability to detach emotionally hampers the ability of the mother to be an effective parent, leading to a state of cognitive dissonance in the child, frustration in the mother, and a resort to "because I said so" parenting tecniques that make the behavioral problems in the child much much worse.
Parenting neurodivergent kids isn’t about gender-it’s about understanding the child’s unique needs. Both emotional support and logical approaches are valuable and often work best together. While structure may comfort some children, emotional connection helps others feel secure. Effective parenting comes from collaboration, flexibility, and a willingness to adapt, not stereotypes. Every family and child is unique, and diverse parenting styles can be a strength.
@ Certainly studies agree children from single parent households, regardless of gender, have significantly more behavioral problems. That is true. Due to lack of research on single father households, studies aren’t exactly robust in comparison, but there is a slight trend of better outcomes for children in grades, and economic and social success later in life from single father households vs single mother households.
There are SIGNIFICANT physiological differences between men and women, and it affects their respective abilities to take over both roles in the absence of two parents . Men are better at that. Women have a much higher tendency towards narcissistic and hostile parenting.
Well this isn’t true. There are plenty of fathers that are hands off in education and nurturing their child’s creativity. Unlike the mother. It’s not impossible, but to pretend like fathers nurture the abilities of the gifted child is far from true because gifted children require a greater set of attention and patience.
Men are often just as emotional as women. They just display it differently. My own dad certainly acted upon his emotions and totally lacks reason. Both of my parents have the "because I said so" attitude. Look at how many men end up with addictions due to bad childhoods or end up in anger management. I think it has more to do with how you're raised than your gender. Yes, women tend to cry easier, but men are more prone, on average, to anger outbursts or simply shutting down.
To really shine on something a person must have an extreme interest and willingness it could have a very poor IQ but on that they're extremely high genius high
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So silly. Estimated iq and then use it as an example to prove your point 🤣 ... he's definitely not gifted 🙃.
Dr. Joseph S. Renzulli is a leader and pioneer in gifted education and applying the pedagogy of gifted education teaching strategies to all students.
@@IngeniousBaby misguided desire based on his misunderstanding I'm sure. Non gifted kids can't learn in the same manner as gifted kids, so using the same approach would likely fail. In general deriving an approach using a special case then expanding to a general case makes no sense. You would think one of his gifted students would explain that simple concept to him.
If he'd use a scientific approach or anything close to it, he would very quickly see his error. Instead he's making up arguments to support his opinions based on nonsense (historical estimate of an iq which the person estimating then judges... no bias there I'm sure lol). How is he normalizing for the flyn effect or coming up with a baseline.
Also ppl are born gifted. I dont see how that's debatable at this point. But if he doubts I can introduce him to a bunch, as they're pretty common in my family.
@@dhagos
"People are born gifted"
Interesting, if you can provide the least of evidence, I'd be happy to incorporate your position!
@𝕾𝖙𝖗𝖎𝖛𝖊𝖗 - مُصْلِح take anyone's iq at anytime throughout their life and the results will be correlated at about 0.9. There's also literature looking at twins and family members showing genetic links to intelligence. If you've ever raised a kid you'd also notice it almost instantly, that some are smarter than others. Very high correlation with achievements at an early age (e.g., a 6 month old that's talking and the odds of them being gifted).